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UnOffical- Offical Battery Use for the Evo

I will be getting the Evo when it will be coming out and I and probably 100 other people are worried about the battery life of this monster. What we know is this guy has a huge screen, a WiMax radio and a 1 GHz processor that will suck up the battery life crazy. However, HTC has made sure to put in a 1500 mAh battery that is almost as big as the phone. Coming from the Pre this is comforting but I am still kinda skeptical about the battery life if this monster.
So the purpose of this thread is for all of those lucky people who already have a Evo to post there experiences with the life of this superphone. What I need of you is normal daily battery life with 3G and 4G, normal screen brighness, how much you use internet, email check frequency, and anything else you what to mention. This will really help alot of people out here who are potential Evo owners.
Oh, and Thanks in advance!!!!
EDIT to moderators: This maybe a good thread to make a sticky.

http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY35HEV4-BK
This is the beast of a battery I'm planning to get for my future Evo. Can't wait to see what 2000 mAh of juice will do to its durability .

Mecha2142 said:
This is the beast of a battery I'm planning to get for my future Evo. Can't wait to see what 2000 mAh of juice will do to its durability .
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Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.

The extra 3 to 4 mm of thickness would make the Evo as thick as the G1 which to me is no problem at all considering my current phone is the G1 WITH an extended battery.

robertc1965 said:
Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
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Not much of a problem for me; if anything, it will make the Evo easier to hold in the hand.

robertc1965 said:
Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
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That just may be perfect for the protruding camera lens many are worried about!

Well I live in a 3g area and work in a 4g area. I have a 2 hour drive each way and half way I hit 4g. Right now if I just stay on 3g the battery can last me all day with normal usage. I usually only charge the device while I'm driving home from work so I can listen to my music or podcasts. I'd say on normal usage you get about 12 hours. That's what I get at least. But here's a solution for you. The Evo takes a normal HTC Hero or Touch Pro 2 battery. I bought a TP2 battery on eBay for about $5. Now all I need to do is make sure I keep one charged and the other charged and in my car. Then I can swap if I need to.
Also note that as of now, 4g sucks battery big time. I think this is a bug in the software so once they fix that then we'll be fine. But right now if you leave 4g on permanently you probably only get about 4 hrs. Just a warning.

Thx for the comments so far! My experience with the Pre, which had alot of battery bugs at the start, says that after all the bugs are worked out it will give you 1-3 hours more. So with 4G running 5-6 hours strait is an ok deal. Just the most important thing to me right now is just to have at least 12 hours of usage with a far amount of browsing on 4G at the time.

I previously owned an HD2, which is nearly identical to the EVO 4G except for OS, and thought battery life was pretty good. Got at least a day out of it and I was on it all the time (wifi connection mostly).

this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.

turn said:
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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Ha ha. Yeah toilets and phones usually don't mix. Unless it's WinMo in which case thats where it belongs
But yeah my battery has been very good to me. Definitely can't complain. On a side note it does take a considerable longer amount of time to charge than the Hero I was using but that only makes sense.

Yesterday I took my Evo to work with me for the first time since receiving it Friday. It had a full charge when I left the house at about 340pm. At about 1030pm, I got the message to connect the phone to the charger. In between that time span, I did some web browsing and sent some text messages (I love the Evo keyboard). I didn't make any calls because I'm still carrying my Palm Pre with me until the 4th when I can get my service switched to my Evo. But anyway the Evo lasted a lot longer than my Palm Pre. It probably would have even lasted longer but I had some programs pulling information every 15mins and some every 2 hours. So I set all them to pull information at longer intervals. So I'm going to see how long it'll take before I get that message again. But so far the battery that came with Evo serves me fine.

chuckhriczko said:
Well I live in a 3g area and work in a 4g area. I have a 2 hour drive each way and half way I hit 4g. Right now if I just stay on 3g the battery can last me all day with normal usage. I usually only charge the device while I'm driving home from work so I can listen to my music or podcasts. I'd say on normal usage you get about 12 hours. That's what I get at least. But here's a solution for you. The Evo takes a normal HTC Hero or Touch Pro 2 battery. I bought a TP2 battery on eBay for about $5. Now all I need to do is make sure I keep one charged and the other charged and in my car. Then I can swap if I need to.
Also note that as of now, 4g sucks battery big time. I think this is a bug in the software so once they fix that then we'll be fine. But right now if you leave 4g on permanently you probably only get about 4 hrs. Just a warning.
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I have the Hero 1800mAh battery in my Hero and it's been a champ so far. Going to grab another one for my Evo once I pick it up this Friday.

turn said:
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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What are you doing with a phone in a bathroom? Jerk off material?

As the owner of a Sprint Hero, I was very happy to discover that the battery is interchangeable with my Evo.

When I actually tested out the battery (second day of ownership): I was at 36% remaining after 14 hours of moderate use (auto-backlight, occasional texting, reading emails, installed a few apps, browsing XDA, etc). Some observations: The first 10-15% will drain more quickly than the others, incredibly intense apps like 3D gaming will extremely quickly drain the battery (like 6% in half of an hour), and keep your brightness on 20% or so because auto seems to always keep it very bright.
Yesterday I tried the typical "full discharge" test since people seem to rave about it, and I don't see any harm. I will see how this goes today.

jigglywiggly said:
What are you doing with a phone in a bathroom? Jerk off material?
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Ha ha. Ironic how someone named jigglywiggly said this And honestly, why not? That should be a selling point of this phone ha ha

chuckhriczko said:
Ha ha. Ironic how someone named jigglywiggly said this And honestly, why not? That should be a selling point of this phone ha ha
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Hell, that's the whole purpose of the kickstand, right?

TheBiles said:
Hell, that's the whole purpose of the kickstand, right?
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Ha ha. Amen brother

i had it on top of the toilet playing music while i showered...or so the story goes. lolol

A Complaint Letter to HTC - Battery Life

I just submitted the following letter to HTC's Customer Service:
"Phone = Telus Desire HD. I've been using my new Desire HD for awhile now but have come to conclude it has one major design flaw. If I don't cripple half of its options/features before leaving the house the battery has trouble making it through the day. Once half the features are crippled what's the point of having a smart phone? Please tell me HTC is in the process of designing/producing an upgraded battery? I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential, although I am alarmed R&D did not resolve this before launch. HTC did not make the battery cover replaceable nor did they add a little depth to the phone to allow a larger battery. Unless HTC can refine their battery design are all their current Desire HD customers forced to use their phone with reserve? It saddens me that I can't even recommend this phone to a friend because of the atroshish battery life. Lastly when I purchased this phone I did so because of HTC's reputation. I neglected to read current reviews prior to my purchase knowing that it was a flagship phone for HTC. After purchasing it I started browsing reviews and found only one common theme that never deviated. The Desire HD has a dismal battery life. What if anything does HTC plan to do about this??"
Yes guys I know that recent rom development has done leaps and bounds to improve battery life, and there are plenty of ways to extend it but the bottom line is HTC released this and knows that everyone has the same issue. They should come up with some course of resolve. If they found a way to refine the battery vastly extending its life this phone would be untouchable. I hope more users write to HTC and complain. It only takes minutes but as customers our voices should be heard.

JohnnyRebel said:
I just submitted the following letter to HTC's Customer Service:
"Phone = Telus Desire HD. I've been using my new Desire HD for awhile now but have come to conclude it has one major design flaw. If I don't cripple half of its options/features before leaving the house the battery has trouble making it through the day. Once half the features are crippled what's the point of having a smart phone? Please tell me HTC is in the process of designing/producing an upgraded battery? I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential, although I am alarmed R&D did not resolve this before launch. HTC did not make the battery cover replaceable nor did they add a little depth to the phone to allow a larger battery. Unless HTC can refine their battery design are all their current Desire HD customers forced to use their phone with reserve? It saddens me that I can't even recommend this phone to a friend because of the atroshish battery life. Lastly when I purchased this phone I did so because of HTC's reputation. I neglected to read current reviews prior to my purchase knowing that it was a flagship phone for HTC. After purchasing it I started browsing reviews and found only one common theme that never deviated. The Desire HD has a dismal battery life. What if anything does HTC plan to do about this??"
Yes guys I know that recent rom development has done leaps and bounds to improve battery life, and there are plenty of ways to extend it but the bottom line is HTC released this and knows that everyone has the same issue. They should come up with some course of resolve. If they found a way to refine the battery vastly extending its life this phone would be untouchable. I hope more users write to HTC and complain. It only takes minutes but as customers our voices should be heard.
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I will do the same HTC India as well

Great News
Sheldon.mathews said:
I will do the same HTC India as well
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Glad to hear it, I hope more follow suit. The way I see it is the XDA forums in the Desire HD section gets an astonishing number of hits. If even 1 out of every 500 people that just read the Desire HD threads write a complaint in regards to a battery it will have a swift impact on a battery upgrade option for the desire hd.

Unfortunately I think this is the HTC policy. They never build a perfect phone; think about the HTC Desire and the Nexus One: they're legendary devices but they had multitouch (and weak reception on N1) issues. The HTC HD2 probably was the best phone they ever made, but it had a tiny 1320 mAh battery and Windows Mobile 6.5. Other phones had issues like camera, WiFi performances, etc... And now our DHD: no S-Amoled ( = more energy required to keep the huge screen on), a low capacity battery and a sub-par GPS.
I think this is their strategy to make sure ppl will keep buying their new phones. You get it, you recognize it has plenty of great features and most things work just as expected (unlike other manufacturer like Samsung, Motorola), you get a lot of software updates... But you have one or more issues which will let you consider to upgrade to their new models.
Just my 2¢... I'd love if HTC should announce a 1500/1600 mAh extended battery tho

Scarey to think about eh?
Drakknar said:
Unfortunately I think this is the HTC policy. They never build a perfect phone; think about the HTC Desire and the Nexus One: they're legendary devices but they had multitouch (and weak reception on N1) issues. The HTC HD2 probably was the best phone they ever made, but it had a tiny 1320 mAh battery and Windows Mobile 6.5. Other phones had issues like camera, WiFi performances, etc... And now our DHD: no S-Amoled ( = more energy required to keep the huge screen on), a low capacity battery and a sub-par GPS.
I think this is their strategy to make sure ppl will keep buying their new phones. You get it, you recognize it has plenty of great features and most things work just as expected (unlike other manufacturer like Samsung, Motorola), you get a lot of software updates... But you have one or more issues which will let you consider to upgrade to their new models.
Just my 2¢... I'd love if HTC should announce a 1500/1600 mAh extended battery tho
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Never quite looked at it that way but maybe it is a HTC conspiracy. Give them just enough to keep them coming back. Regardless I hope you voice you concern to HTC too and maybe we'll see that 1500/1600 mAh battery in the near future.

You won't see it for a couple of reasons.
The Desire hd is near end if life in terms of being a flagship, and the technology simply doesn't exist to increase battery cell density further. The only way would be a physically larger battery which is impossible given the design of the dhd.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

I don't know why people complain about the battery life. It is fine for me. And it is a smart phone, what are you going to expect, 2 days of battery???
I easily get a day out of it without any problems. Display is 20%, Wifi on, 3g on, sync on... I say the screen is on for around 1 to 1 and a half hours.

No offense, but I seriously hope you wrong!
dr.m0x said:
You won't see it for a couple of reasons.
The Desire hd is near end if life in terms of being a flagship, and the technology simply doesn't exist to increase battery cell density further. The only way would be a physically larger battery which is impossible given the design of the dhd.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
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There is no doubt a new flag ship is just around the corner. And yes I've heard the density argument several times, but I'm praying they still have a trick or two up their sleeves that they have yet to reveal. ;0) Besides, it can never hurt to take a shot even when the odds look overwhelming. But hey who knows, when they respond to me they might just admit I'm SOL. We'll see what the future reveals.

Glad you're happy.
springy said:
I don't know why people complain about the battery life. It is fine for me. And it is a smart phone, what are you going to expect, 2 days of battery???
I easily get a day out of it without any problems. Display is 20%, Wifi on, 3g on, sync on... I say the screen is on for around 1 to 1 and a half hours.
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A day and a half and I'd be ecstatic. I get a full day too, but refrain from allot of the everyday tasks I'd also like to accomplish. I spend 14-16hrs away from home 5-6days a week. Normally by the time I return home my phone is warning me about 15% battery. Yes I could charge it while in my car, yes I could swap batteries (but I HATE the battery cover), and finally yes I could plug it into an outlet for awhile (abandoning my contact with 99.9% of the world) . To me 1230mAh seems exceptionally low for a smart phone doesn't it? Especially is you design one with such a power hungry screen? There are tons of things I do love about this phone and I mean tons. But in a year if this isn't resolved I'll remember it as the awesome phone that ate batteries. Lastly though all I can say is thank god for all the brilliant developers who are coming up with commendable ways to stretch our battery life further. And shame on HTC for just standing by on the sidelines.

The thing is, I don't think anything can really be done to make a battey big enough. Yes you can buy some 1300mAH - 1600mAH but they tend to be worse then the 1230mAH we have in the DHD. The software can be optimised but the main thing is the screen. To be honest, the DHD had a design flaw, a slot that was not big enough to house a battery that can contain more than 1230mAH. The only way we can go forward is hope that new battery technology comes out soon, but this is around 3-5 years away from current experiments technology from what I have seen...
But also, other phones are in the same situations. All battery of under 2000mAH will be terrible. Phones if you want it to last would need at least 10000mAH in my opinion, and again we are around 3-5 years away from this happening at the earliest for a credible solution..

Hate to say it but complaining will be fruitless as htc already have your money.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

Yes, there is no point complaining because they have no obligation to comply. Even if they really have the technology to provide a better battery, it simply not a viable business strategy to design a new battery for a phone that soon to be replace by next generation of androids. Its not just HTC, every business is like this, they provide a good product, but always reserve better for the next product cycle. Thats why most updated technology usually takes 5-10years to actually reach consumer market.

I don't think the battery of the HTC Desire HD is so bad, I easy get about 1 day and 12 hours with all options on, ofcourse I don't use battery comsuming apps like twitter, I mean if you are so active with a phone then most smartphones will barely make the day.
I think we should be happy that the battery is removeable, just look at the iPhone, the battery is not removeable and to extend the battery life they need use a external battery, no thanks then I rather carry one spare battery with me for just in case I would need it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...nes-could-run-for-months-between-charges.html
That is the technology I head about 6 months ago... now widely reported... this is what will solve our battery problem... Having 1500mAH won't do anything about from extend the life for a few hours.
Too bad we are 3-5 years for it to get anywhere near market consumption

omg
really the battery in the htc desire hd is hopeless....

Well the main power consuming piece of hardware inside our phone is the screen.
Qualcomm have invented a new type of display called the mirasol display, and it uses a lot less power than the traditional LCD. Since HTC and Qualcomm are partners we could be seeing this type of display in future HTC devices.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-screen-technology-teased-ahead-of-ces-demos/

JohnnyRebel said:
I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential...
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This obviously doesn't solve the root cause, but if you're willing to spend around 50 USD google for something like "PB-5000 Phone Charger", it's 5000mAh...

my Desire HD has the exact same issue, with only 10-12 hrs maximum with half the features off. i am seriously considering buying the HTC Desire, just for the sake of the battery.
there is a very easy and acceptable solution for this problem. can't they make a charging case or a charging cover or a case holding the 2nd battery being in action for the HTC Desire HD? they have done it for the iPhone. i have mailed so many companies with this idea (including mugen and HTC), however no one replied.
I also have a question: how much does LeeDroid improve the battery issue??? as in how many more hrs does it give me?
Thanks, Best Regards, Android Asim

Trouble? Not so much.....
What kind of services are you running?
I listen to music to and from work, wifi is on all day at work + listen to music and watch a video or two. LiveProfile is on all day as well. I normally don't use Livewallpapers. A charge will last all day for me with this typical usage. Now, If I start rocking "Dungeon Hunter" or some other game or am using GPS then battery goes way down and I have to hit the trickle charge at work ( USB to Computer )
I normally charge overnight.
It is a Smartphone with a huge screen and chip, it's not a MOTO RAZR.

dhiral.v said:
Well the main power consuming piece of hardware inside our phone is the screen.
Qualcomm have invented a new type of display called the mirasol display, and it uses a lot less power than the traditional LCD. Since HTC and Qualcomm are partners we could be seeing this type of display in future HTC devices.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-screen-technology-teased-ahead-of-ces-demos/
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Sounds pretty good. I like my DHD and all its awesome functions but having to be so careful about battery consumption really is a pain in the ***. The phone's screen is pretty darn nice to look at, but I have it set to 25% brightness just to keep consumption down a bit. Seriously, using the DHD's screen for 4 hours the battery is almost empty.
I'd really have no problem settling with a 'less pretty' screen if it would mean I could use my phone for more than 4 hours a day.
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What kind of services are you running?
I listen to music to and from work, wifi is on all day at work + listen to music and watch a video or two. LiveProfile is on all day as well. I normally don't use Livewallpapers. A charge will last all day for me with this typical usage. Now, If I start rocking "Dungeon Hunter" or some other game or am using GPS then battery goes way down and I have to hit the trickle charge at work ( USB to Computer )
I normally charge overnight.
It is a Smartphone with a huge screen and chip, it's not a MOTO RAZR.
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My typical use during a day:
-Unplug it at around 8:00
-Making calls for about 30 minutes
-Sending ~25 SMS
-Internet for about 2 hours (1 hour wifi and 1 hour 3G/H)
-Listening to music for about 1 hour
-Checking my awesome team in RunFootball ~5 times a day
-Plug it in at around 22:00
At 22:00, the battery is usually down to below 15%. I have GPS, BT, wifi and 3G off unless actively using them. With my screen brightness set at a low 25% the maximum screen time I can get out off my DHD is 4 hours. There are no rogue apps running in the background.
Honestly, a phone with this type of power consumption needs atleast an 1800mAh battery to last me through a day without me worrying about it.

Thoughts on YOUR Atrix?

Delete.

i'm very happy with the phone. the only caveat i really have (which a lot of people don't seem to have) is battery life. i get about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display-on time, while others have been reporting double that.
as far as motoblur is concerned, if you just get another launcher and use Titanium Backup Pro to freeze motoblur Home and other services, then you won't even have to think about it.

rdubyah said:
I should be receiving my Atrix for AT&T tomorrow, this will be a HUGGGGGGEEEEEE upgrade from my measly HTC Hero (Sprint CDMA) that I have modified to the ends of the Earth. I'm in need of more power and amazed at the stuff you can do with the Atrix.
My question to you all, has this phone met or surpassed your expectations? Did it fail to achieve those expectations? Tell me what you think of this phone, I have been reading so many reviews about the phone I feel like I know all technological aspects about the phone as well, haha.
How fast were you to get rid of MotoBlur?
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I think I can speak for a lot of people in saying that, as far as the Atrix goes, I am in love with the "potential" this phone has. But as far as meeting those expectations, well, that's something to be debated. There are areas where the dual core shines and other areas it seems it is not harnessing the full power. Then couple that with AT&T's network restrictions and Motorola's lockdown on the device, I'm going to have to say that I am disappointed in the Atrix as of now. That could change if there is a break through in the bootloader or if AT&T gets its act together and starts offering the "High speeds" we were promised. Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".

Coming from a captivate I love this phone...everything works includi.g the gps. Most of motoblur is gone on my phone. The phone is amazingly fast but does have an occasional hiccup. An unlocked bootloader would turn this into the best available android phone but its one of the top
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

live4nyy said:
...Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".
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I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...

bleuiko said:
I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...
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Yeah, I'm high up on the fence because if I do return it I am going to switch carriers as well.

I'm really enjoying it... coming from a Tilt2, it's a major upgrade. Straight out of the box, it's very enjoyable... I'm not dissapointed at all.. it's only going to get better once they get this beast unleashed
Camera is quick and decent.
GPS is amazingly fast...
Browser is snappy and loads everything great
WiFi is a little weak...
and I actually like the screen.. It's not best screen ever made, but it's actually a very nice display.
I was getting terrible battery life, but somehow a hard-reset solved that problem, and i'm able to get more than a day of heavy use no problem.
Just picked up a second one for the wife (coming from an iphone 3g) and she's really enjoying it a lot as well

I like the Atrix. I upgraded from an iPhone 3G. I realize that it's not the best it can be as far as unlocking right now, but it is better than what I had. I only wish I could afford the webtop dock right now for times I'm on the road. Nothing a netbook couldn't fix though.

as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.

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as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
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Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.

I like my Atrix, the only problems i see is that the webtop is very limited, but some people over the developer section are working on that, and also the speeds which since T-Mobile was bought it definitely will become faster alongside with HSPA+ and LTE being utilized together. It has lots of potential to run REALLY great, but this is the first phone of its kind, it'll always have problems in the beginning.

bleuiko said:
Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.
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and that cuts the battery way down. powering all the radios is a large power drain. I never turn on a radio i don't need, so 90% of the time wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc are off. Mobile data is always on, and i i never try and tell it to revert to 2g.

cegna09 said:
as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.
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see... i wish i had that same kind of success.

It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
Based on my limited testing I can get about 4-5 hours of display on time with auto brightness. The absolute best I could squeeze out of my nexus S is almost 4 hours which is to be expected since it's 1930mah vs. 1500mah. I MIGHT do some battery drain tests before I return the Atrix but I'm not sure... those take time. I know the Nexus S can go about 7-8 hours playing a video while in airplane mode so I'm wondering what the Atrix could achieve.

dinan said:
It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
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We do have all those indicators in the Battery manager. I average about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display, unless i'm doing something like streaming March Madness via flash, then it drops to like 7 hours with 2-3 hours of display.

Love it.
Honestly out of all the phones i've had this is the main one.
Screen great looking.
Speed is unreal and I mean like lightening fast :O
The games and apps that work just look and run crazy good!
Camera imo is great not going to replace main cameras but great for stills and videos, would be nice to see the 1080p recording update out soon though
Motoblur stuff which I like :O lol can be frozen and a custom launcher introduced without you even thinking about the motoblur lag.
Battery life is very good I can get a whole day at college 8:30 until 6 heavy usage and still get home with 30-40% left which is great to me
Fingerprint reader is also a great little feature that gets yours friends a little jealous lol
Only thing I don't like is the battery door creaks, I know its nothing major but its just a little annoyance other than that the build quality is great very sleek device!

I'm really bored with my Atrix there's no developement community. You can't do **** with a locked bootloader. Even the iphone is more open than this pos. It's going back tommorrow **** motorola.
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@ Exador... Amen brother!!!!
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I'm a firm believer in the "garbage in, garbage out" philosophy. Yes this phone has one or two legitimate issues (touch screen acting up after x seconds continuous touch), but for the most part is good. How many apps do you have installed? How many do you actually use? Every month i clean out my phone of apps that haven't been used in a couple weeks. I usually see a little bump in battery life each time since less apps are itching to use the data connection or other resources.
how many widgets are you running? I don't really notice it on the Atrix, but on my aria when i had 5 home screens riddled with widgets, it was laggy and slow. Drop it down to 2 screens with a simple setup, and it was snappy.
My point is, most of the time, little issues are probably user generated. I see it all the time with computers. But it's way easier to blame the hardware and software than look for the cause of your problem. again, i'm not down playing the few legitimate issues.
next time i pull a 39hour run i'll post specifics of what i was using it for in the battery thread.

I'm very happy with mine. I don't have much of a desire to put a custom ROM on, so the locked bootloader isn't an issue. The speed of this device is just levels beyond my Nexus One. I can't remember a time so far where I've had any lag. Plus, I don't have to worry about app space the way I did with the N1.

Xoom Screen and Battery performance vs ipad 2

My wife uses ipad2 and i am using xoom. Noticed some glaring performance issues for the battery and the screen:-
1. The battery on the ipad2 can last twice as long as the xoom. I can get 3 days use of battery from the ipad2 compared to the xoom for about the same usage. When i use the xoom for about 5hours - mainly to do basic web serving, read books, with 3G turned on (rest of wireless turned off), i have about 40% battery left after 24hours. That does not seem normal to me, battery reports that the battery juice is used by the screen mostly (80%)...but my screen brightness is less than 30% level.
2. The you tube HD video clarity on the ipad2 is definitely more superior in color richness , clarity and sharpness. Turning up the screen brightness to 100% and activating the higher video quality in the xoom helps a bit but the improvement just makes a dent. I have read that the ipad screen is better...but what i see is a clearly superior ipad screen performance.
I almost hate to say this....ipad2 is a winner as far as the battery and screen quality is concerned. Or my xoom is a dud and i should bring it back to motorola?
thanks
Lawrence
P/s - Saw this article on the xoom screen performance from gizmodo.com.au/2011/07/best-tablet-display-ipad-2-just-got-dethroned. Looks like i am better of reading books with xoom and watch videos on the ipad2.

Honestly the xoom's screen is good enough for watching videos. But to say your not going to use it for video's because of a small difference in the screen.(I've compared them side by side) Why not read books on the ipad?
My xoom lasts me 4 days on battery browsing and playing games for 4 hours a day. But I'm using wifi only.
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Can the ipad2 install 3rd party music players?
Use Xbox controllers?
Mount cameras?
Use SD cards to play friends music?
As well as many other features.
Both have strong and weak points, just pick the one suited to you simple.
Sent from my Tablet

Does the ipad run android? Nope
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Hi,
I got the xoom for the reasons you have highlighted and am thankful to the XDA community for the support and the hacks. It makes the experience so much more fulfilling .
Ipad2 plays the youtube by default in HD mode while in the Xoom, you have to select this play mode. Having realized this solved the problem that was borne out of my ignorance.
I hope the Tiamat 2.1 improves the Xoom battery life, i am charging it almost daily now since it drops to below 40% after a day of use.
Lawrence

boo ****ing hoo, i cant use my battery for a month. I have to recharge every while im sleeping and not using it. Christ, you guys....

patass said:
boo ****ing hoo, i cant use my battery for a month. I have to recharge every while im sleeping and not using it. Christ, you guys....
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Duhhhh....that's what sleeping supposed to be. You can't be playing dungeon defenders with your eyes closed
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wang1404 said:
Duhhhh....that's what sleeping supposed to be. You can't be playing dungeon defenders with your eyes closed
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I think he's trying to be sarcastic, lol.
If you're doing anything other than listening to music, the Xoom will give +/- ten hours of battery life. That's pretty good. I charge at night on my speaker dock and use it as my alarm clock. It's ready to go in the morning and lasts through the day with battery to spare.
Use SetCPU or CPU Master to set battery saving profiles if rooted with custom kernel/rom.

msavic6 said:
My xoom lasts me 4 days on battery browsing and playing games for 4 hours a day. But I'm using wifi only.
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So you get 16 hours of battery life out of your xoom? Honestly, sell it back to Motorola for half a million or so, so they can find out how you doubled the normal battery life.
Sorry, I really like my xoom and am a Android "Fanboy", but we should at least try to be realistic.
I don't get what all the fuzz is about anyway. The Ipad2 has a better battery life, which is even written down in the specs. And that the xoom's screen is **** (relatively, considering the price class) has been mentioned right from the start. So, nothing new to see here

Tiamat 2.1 ROCKS
Hi,
Using Tiamat 2.1 with
1. Used Set CPU to increase to 1.5Ghz (settings = ondemand). Performance increase very noticeable and quadrant score has increased from 1800 to 3500!
2. Battery life has also improved, half a day use drops about 20% but will take me a few days to test this out for a fact. I suppose this because Tiamat has cleaned out the bloat ware Thanks ROM Team Tiamat! Also used Auto Memory Killer (got this advice from Xoom Heaven thread, Thanks diablo2224!). And all this with 1.5Ghz CPU setting!
I support android, use SGS2, SGS1 (wife using this) and Xoom. XDA is a great place where the majority of the views are objective and useful for the reader, to make informed decisions.
Lawrence

patass said:
boo ****ing hoo, i cant use my battery for a month. I have to recharge every while im sleeping and not using it. Christ, you guys....
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Lol seriously such a hassle to plug it in over night! Mine runs a couple days with heavy use thanks to rooting it and running setcpu...doing this to solve Androids battery guzzling from the factory issue I have a tab that can outlast the iPad, but more importantly excels in several other categories. When the source code comes out things will only get far better...this is a device for real techies...you want a pretty screen and the internet without ever getting the true potential with your device...buy a fadPad
Oh and stock I never had a problem with a full day battery life on this thing which is really all you need, but if you put in the twenty minutes of extra work you could have way better battery life...as far as the screen crispness it is subjective...some folks swear the iPad is better some say xoom has better quality but darker screen...the difference is minimal in my opinion and using better third party players helps...rant over

I'll be the 1st to admit that the iPad2 has a better display than the Xoom, but hell so do most of the other recent android tablets out there. I bought iPad2's for my daughters and I could never move to the darkside. I rely too much on google's free tools, being on the road so much I literally could not live without google maps and it's free voice navigation.
Make no mistake, I'm just as disappointed in the Xoom's display as anyone else and the still absent LTE upgrade (I know it's finally coming) have turned me off from Motorola hardware completely. Since VZW essentially gave me a 4G hotspot and allow me to use my Xoom as a wifi only device, I can't really complain anymore. I won't be leaving Android anytime soon, especially for iOS

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I'll be the 1st to admit that the iPad2 has a better display than the Xoom, but hell so do most of the other recent android tablets out there. I bought iPad2's for my daughters and I could never move to the darkside. I rely too much on google's free tools, being on the road so much I literally could not live without google maps and it's free voice navigation.
Make no mistake, I'm just as disappointed in the Xoom's display as anyone else and the still absent LTE upgrade (I know it's finally coming) have turned me off from Motorola hardware completely. Since VZW essentially gave me a 4G hotspot and allow me to use my Xoom as a wifi only device, I can't really complain anymore. I won't be leaving Android anytime soon, especially for iOS
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Yeah my real gripe is with motorola releasing their device too early...I would have gone HTC if they had a comparable device but they don't as of yet...oh well just means I had to hack it a little more than planned...

Improved battery life
Hi,
The battery life with the Tiamat 2.1 has improved. Instead of dropping down to 40% after day use, now it is 70%. My usage will not be identical daily but the improvement is significant, very pleased with it.
Tiamat ROM Team ROCKS!
Lawrence

lawrencelaw said:
Hi,
The battery life with the Tiamat 2.1 has improved. Instead of dropping down to 40% after day use, now it is 70%. My usage will not be identical daily but the improvement is significant, very pleased with it.
Tiamat ROM Team ROCKS!
Lawrence
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So glad to hear it!

Pixel does not seem like it is selling so well.....

I actually posted this same post in the XL section by mistake, here is where I would get the proper feedback:
After reading all the forums on XDA I decided to go with the Pixel XL. I have been on a
waiting list for 2 weeks now so I am assuming these are backordered big time.
In the same instance I check to see what the wait is for the regular Pixel and it keeps going
down. Today you can order a 128 gb black and get it in 2 weeks, The XL I still cannot even order
it. I am guessing everyone is making the same conclusion that the XL model is the prefered model.
Those of you with the Pixel, what are your thoughts? I am afraid of the battery life of the Pixel vs the XL.
That is my number one concern.
When do you think we will see any more stock on the XL?
CC

I don't have either phone. I did order the pixel and not the xl version. I ordered it from Google and I'm waiting till November 23 for it to arrive. I think it is doing as well the xl version. I called Verizon and I could get it sooner but the monthly payments on Verizon don't allow though to pay a little more to pay phone off early.
I was worried about the battery life as well. It looks like people are at least getting 4-5 hours of screen on time. That's enough for me. I just want a smaller phone. I've had the 6p and the S7 edge and I prefer a phone the size of the iPhone 7. I just don't want an iPhone.
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Well availability doesn't tell us anything at all, it accounts for no variables. As far as preferred model the XL should definitely be it, considering the sizes of the best selling Android phones. The Pixel is rare for being a top-specced one handed device.

Got the pixel. Battery life is 2 days easy. I love it.

Is 4-5 hours of SOT out of the Box enough for you? --> take it!
I really enjoy the snappiness and the quality.
Awesome, but expensive device!
Cheers

I came here expecting actual numbers, left disappointed.

Infact Google is having hard time completing orders, they have a very good demand at the moment for both models!
http://www.greenbot.com/article/313...pre-orders-being-pushed-back-to-november.html

Battery life is really good. I am at the end of my first day with full charge, currently 42% left with 4h11m SOT. I would put it on par with iPhone 7 plus (which is the phone I came from).

ctbear said:
Battery life is really good. I am at the end of my first day with full charge, currently 42% left with 4h11m SOT. I would put it on par with iPhone 7 plus (which is the phone I came from).
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That's pretty much my experience as well.
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cc999 said:
Those of you with the Pixel, what are your thoughts? I am afraid of the battery life of the Pixel vs the XL.
That is my number one concern.
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You do realize that the bigger screen will consume more power, don't you?

ctbear said:
Battery life is really good. I am at the end of my first day with full charge, currently 42% left with 4h11m SOT. I would put it on par with iPhone 7 plus (which is the phone I came from).
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On the regular one or the XL?
That is really impressive if its for the smaller one.

rkial said:
On the regular one or the XL?
That is really impressive if its for the smaller one.
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Smaller one.
I've got the phone for a few more days now and I am averaging 5-6 hours SoT. Certainly not as good as my initial post, but still very, very good I would say.
I don't do a lot of crazy stuff on my phone, just a lot of Hangouts, Redditing, some browsing on Chrome, and checking ESPN (+fantasy) for scores. Some music and reading every once in a while. 'OK Google' is always on and I have 2 Google accounts + 1 Exchange account syncing. High accuracy location on.
I have used a lot of Android phones in the past (as recent as 6P) and this is the first time I don't have to tinker with every single setting to get usable battery life. I am very impressed.

ctbear said:
Smaller one.
I've got the phone for a few more days now and I am averaging 5-6 hours SoT. Certainly not as good as my initial post, but still very, very good I would say.
I don't do a lot of crazy stuff on my phone, just a lot of Hangouts, Redditing, some browsing on Chrome, and checking ESPN (+fantasy) for scores. Some music and reading every once in a while. 'OK Google' is always on and I have 2 Google accounts + 1 Exchange account syncing. High accuracy location on.
I have used a lot of Android phones in the past (as recent as 6P) and this is the first time I don't have to tinker with every single setting to get usable battery life. I am very impressed.
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I have had a large majority of the main stream Android phones to exist and to this day I have NEVER gotten SOT life like this. I simply do not get how this is possible. Now, with my Pixel I still get a maximum 2 hours of SOT. Do you use your phone non stop all day? I think I get good battery life, my phone will survive 2 days with around 2 hours of SOT - I have just never seen such SOT even when I actually use my phone constantly all day.

jdubya42 said:
I have had a large majority of the main stream Android phones to exist and to this day I have NEVER gotten SOT life like this. I simply do not get how this is possible. Now, with my Pixel I still get a maximum 2 hours of SOT. Do you use your phone non stop all day? I think I get good battery life, my phone will survive 2 days with around 2 hours of SOT - I have just never seen such SOT even when I actually use my phone constantly all day.
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I use my phone on the bus, during lunch and casually on the couch when I'm at home. I wouldn't say I am on my phone constantly.
From my experience the biggest battery issue about Android is always idle drain. Doze helps a lot but you really need to get rid of apps that drain unnecessarily, or apps that maintain calls to Google Play service frequently. Social network apps are really bad at this, which is why I make an effort to use their web apps as much as I can.

ctbear said:
I use my phone on the bus, during lunch and casually on the couch when I'm at home. I wouldn't say I am on my phone constantly.
From my experience the biggest battery issue about Android is always idle drain. Doze helps a lot but you really need to get rid of apps that drain unnecessarily, or apps that maintain calls to Google Play service frequently. Social network apps are really bad at this, which is why I make an effort to use their web apps as much as I can.
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That's my thing. The only "social media" app I use is Instagram. I try really hard to have good battery life and my phone has really negligible idle drain. I think I just don't actually use it enough to see those SOT numbers.

for an average medium user, i think the phone will give 3-4 hrs SOT over 36 to 40 hours of usage easily.

jdubya42 said:
I have had a large majority of the main stream Android phones to exist and to this day I have NEVER gotten SOT life like this. I simply do not get how this is possible. Now, with my Pixel I still get a maximum 2 hours of SOT. Do you use your phone non stop all day? I think I get good battery life, my phone will survive 2 days with around 2 hours of SOT - I have just never seen such SOT even when I actually use my phone constantly all day.
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I'm seeing a minimum of 3 hours SOT over 28-36 hours of mixed use on a regular Pixel (browsing, phone calls, Google Inbox, camera, some Facebook, some texting). I'm usually connected to Wi-Fi and a good 4G signal.
Had the Pixel for a week and even the first 24hrs (with lots of extra playing around + downloading all my apps) saw around 3.5 hours of SOT. This compares favourably with my previous Z5C (smaller, lower resolution, display).

cc999 said:
I actually posted this same post in the XL section by mistake, here is where I would get the proper feedback:
After reading all the forums on XDA I decided to go with the Pixel XL. I have been on a
waiting list for 2 weeks now so I am assuming these are backordered big time.
In the same instance I check to see what the wait is for the regular Pixel and it keeps going
down. Today you can order a 128 gb black and get it in 2 weeks, The XL I still cannot even order
it. I am guessing everyone is making the same conclusion that the XL model is the prefered model.
Those of you with the Pixel, what are your thoughts? I am afraid of the battery life of the Pixel vs the XL.
That is my number one concern.
When do you think we will see any more stock on the XL?
CC
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I have the Pixel and I'm overly satisfied with it. Yes, it's pricey, but it's premium. In all honesty, all of these flagships could be cheaper (iPhone, S7, HTC10, etc), so i don't consider the price a negative. I personally love the minimal, straightforward industrial design. People say it looks like an iphone, mostly because that's what they are familiar with, but it just looks like most standard smartphones from the front. Personally, I think it far more reflects the HTC phones of today and before (they've been doing aluminum on the flagships longer than anyone), and is EXTREMELY well built. Regardless of how complex or not you fell the design to be, it's done very well. Otherwise, it's spec-ed as-well-or-better than any other device. Top notch SoC, camera, etc.
Hardware aside, the software is really the strength. I wont go into every nuance, but it just *feels* like a very complete package. Google has been very careful to tie up many of the loose ends that existed on the Nexus phones, and it has a very nice fit and finish to the UI and UX. The camera software is stellar, assistant is nice, the app drawer is much more cleverly handled than before, notifications menu and quick toggles are spot-on and well refined, and Google continues to deliver the ability to customize without burying settings or complexities into the system. my recent (albeit limited) experiences tinkering with iPhones has really left me wanting more from the UI. It used to "just work" but the menus and UI (aside from the main screen) i feel to be dated, overly-layered, and too confusing. App-level permissioning continues to be great....oh, and the camera...man, the camera. yes, a lot of it comes in post-processing the raw file (HDR+, for example), but it's undeniably awesome. I've accidentally taken pictures that turned out better than my most care constructs on past phones. Vlad has some things to say about that here. Anyway, i wont keep rambling, and could answer specific questions if you're interested.
tl;dr - get it. it's awesome, hardware is awesome and executed well, software is top-notch, phone is blazingly fast, i get 5hrs SOT easily in a single day usage (could stretch multiple days and still pull 3-4hrs), and camera is as good/better than anything out there.
disclaimer - i dont game on my phone so can't speak much to that type of performance.
cheers!

Battery
fitchpuckman said:
I have the Pixel and I'm overly satisfied with it. Yes, it's pricey, but it's premium. In all honesty, all of these flagships could be cheaper (iPhone, S7, HTC10, etc), so i don't consider the price a negative. I personally love the minimal, straightforward industrial design. People say it looks like an iphone, mostly because that's what they are familiar with, but it just looks like most standard smartphones from the front. Personally, I think it far more reflects the HTC phones of today and before (they've been doing aluminum on the flagships longer than anyone), and is EXTREMELY well built. Regardless of how complex or not you fell the design to be, it's done very well. Otherwise, it's spec-ed as-well-or-better than any other device. Top notch SoC, camera, etc.
Hardware aside, the software is really the strength. I wont go into every nuance, but it just *feels* like a very complete package. Google has been very careful to tie up many of the loose ends that existed on the Nexus phones, and it has a very nice fit and finish to the UI and UX. The camera software is stellar, assistant is nice, the app drawer is much more cleverly handled than before, notifications menu and quick toggles are spot-on and well refined, and Google continues to deliver the ability to customize without burying settings or complexities into the system. my recent (albeit limited) experiences tinkering with iPhones has really left me wanting more from the UI. It used to "just work" but the menus and UI (aside from the main screen) i feel to be dated, overly-layered, and too confusing. App-level permissioning continues to be great....oh, and the camera...man, the camera. yes, a lot of it comes in post-processing the raw file (HDR+, for example), but it's undeniably awesome. I've accidentally taken pictures that turned out better than my most care constructs on past phones. Vlad has some things to say about that here. Anyway, i wont keep rambling, and could answer specific questions if you're interested.
tl;dr - get it. it's awesome, hardware is awesome and executed well, software is top-notch, phone is blazingly fast, i get 5hrs SOT easily in a single day usage (could stretch multiple days and still pull 3-4hrs), and camera is as good/better than anything out there.
disclaimer - i dont game on my phone so can't speak much to that type of performance.
cheers!
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Thank you for the info above, my number one question is how is battery life. As a business person
syncing email/calendars, numerous calls, youtubing, web browsing, and texting. When I unplug at 6 am will I last until 9 pm or will I have to worry, This is my number one question for ALL.
CC

I personally went with the Pixel over the Pixel XL after using the Nexus 6P and OnePlus 3 for the past 12 months. I wanted something with a smaller size for one handed use. So far, I have not been disappointed in the least bit.
cc999 said:
Thank you for the info above, my number one question is how is battery life. As a business person
syncing email/calendars, numerous calls, youtubing, web browsing, and texting. When I unplug at 6 am will I last until 9 pm or will I have to worry, This is my number one question for ALL.
CC
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I have my own consulting business and use 3 different emails for contact with various clients and 1 personal email address. 2 of these are exchange and 2 are Google accounts. With roughly 20 emails coming in/out per day, 1-2 client calls per day (each one lasting between 30 and 60 minutes), moderate texting and app usage, I've had absolutely no issues with the battery. I usually take about 20 minutes to charge my phone to full as soon as I get into my home office around 7AM each morning. From there it lasts me throughout the day/night with no issues. When I go to plug the phone in each morning it usually has about 25% - 35% battery remaining.