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So, Engadget say's Eee Pad is better than Xoom

I guess the IPS Screen, Keyboard Dock, and 100$ - Price was enough to warrant it being "the best honeycomb tablet to date"
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-uk-edition-review/
really Engadget?

You tell me why can't eeepad better than xoom? I bought my xoom last week, and I still love it . But I really can't deny that eeepad is better, at least its screen and hardware design. I hate the volume button, power button on my xoom.
P/s: price comparison isnt big deal for me cause I bought my new xoom 32gb wifi version only $530^^
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I just read that review and must admit that it struck me as a little odd. They make more of the screen than the software quirks that they appear to be experiencing with it.
My experience with the xoom is not too bad but there are certainly some things that need to be improved. Mostly software and a honeycomb update would be good. The screen is certainly not terrible and it seems at least on a par with the iPad 2 that my wife has.

s.t.s said:
I just read that review and must admit that it struck me as a little odd. They make more of the screen than the software quirks that they appear to be experiencing with it.
My experience with the xoom is not too bad but there are certainly some things that need to be improved. Mostly software and a honeycomb update would be good. The screen is certainly not terrible and it seems at least on a par with the iPad 2 that my wife has.
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I agree with you. Get software improvement is more important. I just wait for next honeycomb update, and my xoom will blow I-tampon away ^^
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This thing is way to big for me! Looks giant next to the xoom. It's obviously not all about thinness and weight.

rjoudrey said:
This thing is way to big for me! Looks giant next to the xoom. It's obviously not all about thinness and weight.
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Well the xoom is slightly heavier, but agree on the size. The eeePad Transformer looks to be over an inch longer and wider, making it just past the 'comfort' dimensions. For example, I can grasp the xoom in portrait mode with one hand; I wouldn't be able to do that with the transformer. This means that the xoom is superior for my needs until the Samsung 8.9 tab comes out...

gadgetluva said:
Well the xoom is slightly heavier, but agree on the size. The eeePad Transformer looks to be over an inch longer and wider, making it just past the 'comfort' dimensions. For example, I can grasp the xoom in portrait mode with one hand; I wouldn't be able to do that with the transformer. This means that the xoom is superior for my needs until the Samsung 8.9 tab comes out...
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Actually, because the bezel is larger, it looks like it makes it easier to grasp with one hand (haven't tried it, could be wrong).
I find the Xoom slightly difficult to hold in one hand after holding it up for some time because I can't grip it in as far as I like without touching the visible screen.

pure Google experience means faster updates. No thanks ASUS

shouldn't that say "engadget says the eee pad is better than the xoom based on their wonky criteria"? I've got to say, I don't really put much stock in the engadget reviews - ever since they gave the ipad2 a 9 and the xoom a 7 or a 6 or whatever they gave it. They seem to lionize the ability to consume content and summed up their review with "Overall, what attracts us to the Transformer over the Xoom is ASUS' intelligent button and camera placement". I've never had a problem with the xoom camera, but that's just me. Of course, it makes sense when you think about their jobs - they aren't quite journalists, aren't freelancers, and are all in their 20s. When you have real work to do your criteria markedly change.
when i compare my xoom to my iphone 4 I like the xoom a lot more and frankly, that's all that really matters: what i think about it.

rmmorse81 said:
pure Google experience means faster updates. No thanks ASUS
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The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.

htc6500uk said:
The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.
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Point taken. My bad

One item that is important to me that the Asus doesn't have is dual band wifi.

i recently got my wifi xoom the hardware is what sold me on it feels solid and clean I'm staying with my xoom because I feel motorola will support us

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Exactly. +1000 to you good sir. This is what I keep saying a s well. As an owner of a Motorola Xoom I know I will get updates before ANY Honeycomb'd device that is skinned. It's just like the Nexus line of phones. They got Gingerbread before anyone else (and still have it until a DEV bakes it into their ROM).
Pure Google Experience FTW. Everyday of the week.

DeerChaser said:
One item that is important to me that the Asus doesn't have is dual band wifi.
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This is very important. How can Asus leave out such an important part of a WiFi device. Dual Band is NEEDED for a WiFi only device

kelvie said:
Actually, because the bezel is larger, it looks like it makes it easier to grasp with one hand (haven't tried it, could be wrong).
I find the Xoom slightly difficult to hold in one hand after holding it up for some time because I can't grip it in as far as I like without touching the visible screen.
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Sorry bigger is never better. At least when it comes to tablets.

i meant grasping like palming a basketball.

I think I would still go with the xoom. I am more confident in motorola's build quality than asus. Moreover, the xoom is pure google and should quickly get updates. I see the asus as more geared towards the asian market with its cheaper price, but probably worse support (at least that has been my experience with the tiawainese computer companies).
Having said that every android 3.0 device that comes out increases the install base and therefore pressure for google to release more updates for android and hopefully more tablet apps.
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Who cares about Engadget anyway? Their "reviews" are hardly reviews and only seems to be a bashing contest everything non-apple.

htc6500uk said:
The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.
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Actually the Xoom has working SD card. (thanks Tiamat 1.3.1) In my experience, DLNA has been a pain, and most manufacturer software additions are pointless. that said, I haven't played with the Asus, but I would be willing to bet there is not much value added by those apps.
Im sure someone else has/will point this out, just had to say it.

[Q] Transformer issues?

I'm on the fence between the Motorola Xoom and the Asus Eee Pad Transformer, and so far I'm really liking the Transformer. Motorola hasn't bothered to update EU Xooms to 3.1, so I'd be getting the US version.
Now, what issues have you guys encountered with the device? Light bleed? Speakers are unbalanced?
I really need help to make a decision, and I love the keyboard dock. But there are some issues I'm not ready to live with.
Thanks in advance,
Emmanuel

plenty of threads here talking about issues but dont forget that the majority of people without issues dont start threads about not having issues
to me the xoom and the TF seem very similar in spec but the keyboard has been MUCH more useful than i thought it would. My laptop is now gathering dust ! the keyboard means that i have
1) a much better input method
2) extra battery
3) extra ports (USB etc)
4) a 'lap stand' ... ie its much easier to sit with the TF in my lap and surf/post due to the fact it can be angled in the keyboard dock makes the whole concept much more useable !
plus it looks like the TF is going to outsell the xoom, suggesting it will have more dev/xda support.
... oh, and its cheaper !

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plus it looks like the TF is going to outsell the xoom, suggesting it will have more dev/xda support.
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Community support FTW! All devices have issues. (Even expensive apple ones) But finding devices with a passionate community working together on overcoming those issues is the important part.

Thought I'd also add something
+'s
CHEAPER!!!
Extended Battery + KB Dock
3.1 in EU
IPS Display
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Asus Warranty is variable
Potential light bleed
Slightly dodgy software (Although I haven't had a look at the newest update)
No 3G option yet
Hard to get hold of.
I'd still get a XFormer though
Hope this helps
Badwolve1

If I had a choice between the motorola xoom or samsung galaxy 10.1
i would get the samsung, I have the ASUS transformer and I love it but
I also enjoyed the samsung galaxy when I checked it out yesterday at Best Buy.

Badwolve1 said:
Thought I'd also add something
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CHEAPER!!!
Extended Battery
3.1 in EU
IPS Display
-'s
Asus Warranty is variable
Potential light bleed
Slightly dodgy software (Although I haven't had a look at the newest update)
No 3G option yet
Hard to get hold of.
I'd still get a XFormer though
Hope this helps
Badwolve1
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Your missing the important one of all !
The keyboard dock and extended battery.
If Samsung had that, I would've bought the samsung due to its lightness, thinner than transformer.
But I heard Samsung don't roll out updates quickly however that could be due since it was on a provider.

emmib said:
I'm on the fence between the Motorola Xoom and the Asus Eee Pad Transformer, and so far I'm really liking the Transformer. Motorola hasn't bothered to update EU Xooms to 3.1, so I'd be getting the US version.
Now, what issues have you guys encountered with the device? Light bleed? Speakers are unbalanced?
I really need help to make a decision, and I love the keyboard dock. But there are some issues I'm not ready to live with.
Thanks in advance,
Emmanuel
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I would do some snooping around a couple of the Xoom forums & threads. Just to see if people are experiencing any of the same issue with the transformer. I am not going to flame asus but there really seems to be a quality issue & not just with light bleed but in manufacturing. People have reported the following problem.
1. dead pixels or white pixels
2. dust under the screen
3. slight screen separation
4. power button sticking
5. excess glue around the bezel (I can confirm)
6. issues with the charger heating up & melting.
I would just do your homework & find out if the Xoom has any issue of its own. You could also consider the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too which is available.

trancemode said:
Your missing the important one of all !
The keyboard dock and extended battery.
If Samsung had that, I would've bought the samsung due to its lightness, thinner than transformer.
But I heard Samsung don't roll out updates quickly however that could be due since it was on a provider.
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Thanks for that
Added to my list
Badwolve1

You can just return it till you get a TF101 without issues, at which point it will always be better than the Xoom.

seshmaru said:
You can just return it till you get a TF101 without issues, at which point it will always be better than the Xoom.
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Why would I do that? I plan on using the tablet, not dreaming about it while it's away. And why should I buy a possibly faulty product?
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Xoom vs TF101 vs Galaxy 10.1 vs iPad2

Hey all,
Figured I'd pass on my opinions of these devices, and since I finally chose the TF, I figured I'd get the least flames posting here - lol. Looooong time gadget geek/hacker going way back to the Palm Pilot days. If it was a tech gadget, and particularly if it was internet capable, I probably owned one. My current phones are a HTC Desire Z (w/ NAM AT&T 3G) running CM7, and an iPhone 4 jailbroken.
Over the past couple of months I've owned (or still own) the Xoom, iPad 2, TF101 (w/dock) and GTab 10.1. I still own all but the Xoom, and here's a few of my thoughts on all of them and why I'll be keeping the TF.
Xoom - Well built, sturdy, and nice design. Lousy screen (comparitively) and lack of promised features like LTE and the SD Card werre a bummer, but my biggest reason for selling that one was the screen, and seeming lack of "responsiveness" from Moto on the device. Plus I knew cooler devices were coming soon.
iPad 2 - Not yet Jailbroken (grrr) but it's still a suprisingly good media consumption device as is. I go the 32GB AT&T model, and have used it for a couple of trips as a laptop replacement. It'll be cooler when I can JB it, but since I have a fiarly big investment in iOS software, I'll probably keep it a while. Not real impressed with it's Safari performance, considering all the hub-bub about how fast it is. But it does do games great, is slick and trouble free, and nice sized with a great (smart-cover) solution.
Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I got this one on Sunday, so I haven't given it a whole lot of time. It's a beautiful, "Apple like" device from a design perspective. Also the screen while very saturated, is very nice, light weight and thinness also gets it lots of oooohs and aaawwwws from everybody. I hate that Samsung doesn't allow direct mounting of the internal storage, and we're forced to use that awful KIES software. I've just been using Drobbox and all my music is in the Google cloud. This one would have been my second choice if I didn't already have (and love) the...
Transformer 101- now this one is my keeper. A lot has to do wth the dock - I'm an "ultraportable" laptop fan (current Lenovo x220) so I like smaller laptops, and man this thing makes a damn good laptop substitute with tablet caapabilities. The screen is gorgeous, the responsiveness of the OS is equal to or better than the other Androids, and even beats iPad when Safari is sucking wind. I love the quick controls in the browser (missing in the Tab) and that it feels like there's a really robust community developing for this device. I'm not rooted on any of these yet, and actually pretty content like that. Therre's a few things I'd do with root (and anti ad hosts file for one!) but for the most part I'm ok with them as is. When I start to get bored I'll probably root this too.
I sold the Xoom about a month aftr I bought it, I'll keep the iPad (partly for the fun things to try like iOS 5 and it's great for kids to play games on) but the Tab is going back to BB (restocking fee be damned.
I just really like the versatility of the TF w/dock. I have it paired with a small BT mouse and it's like a pretty full featured laptop, that goes into Tablet mode at the flick of a switch. Still on the hunt for the slimmest folio case for it that allows it to be propped up for typing, but the kybd dock does that for now.
Hope these tips help some people interested in any of these, remember their just mmy opinions and everybody has different needs and required attributes that may differ from mine. Either way their all fun.
If anybody has any question about my experiences, fire away, love to chat gadget talk abou the cool toys.
-Joel

well played!

Shouldnt be a restocking fee witjin 14 days. I returned a tab a few weeks ago to wait for tf no issues
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gottahavit said:
Shouldnt be a restocking fee witjin 14 days. I returned a tab a few weeks ago to wait for tf no issues
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Good to know thaks, I'll push and see what they say, thanks for the heads up!

Good Post. Thanks.
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I quite agree with you.
From all these devices i tried the iPad 2 and the ASUS transformer.
Im already acquainted with iOS and although its simple and intuitive it's kind of boring. im quite into personalizing my device which the iOs wont really allow.
The bigger and wide screen on the transformer is really nice, and although build-wise it may seems "cheaper" then the iPad (everything that is not shiny-aluminum-ultra-appleish is cheap nowdays) its a comfortable device to hold in the hand.
Price-wise the transformer costs less, + the keyboard dock which increases battery life and also allows you to use it as a netbook.
Performance seems to be almost identical on both A5 and the Tegra 2. BUT the transformer is overclockable, therefore you can squeeze some more juice out of it.
I didnt use the other two, but by reviews i understood that the xooms screen is washed out and not all that great, and the lack of a MicroSD on all of the three (xoom,iPad,GT10.1) is meh-ish.

just picked up mine last night after doing a lil bit of reseasch for a week or so glad i chose this one,, love you wife she bought for me.. BAMBAM

good...
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Thanks for the comparison.
Regarding TF and Tab 10.1 screens, which do you prefer? Which is nicer for news/e-book reading? Does Tab 10.1 oversaturation mess with your eyes?

a042349 said:
I hate that Samsung doesn't allow direct mounting of the internal storage, and we're forced to use that awful KIES software.
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Don't agree with this point. I had the Tab 10.1 for about 3-4 days and I had it mounted on my PC as a plug-play device and was able to transfer files directly. All your need is to install the proper USB drivers from the Samsung US site

myself11 said:
Thanks for the comparison.
Regarding TF and Tab 10.1 screens, which do you prefer? Which is nicer for news/e-book reading? Does Tab 10.1 oversaturation mess with your eyes?
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Yes it does. Although the Galaxy screen seems better than the TF , its for sure over saturated and hurts your eyes if watched closely for lot of time.

Srikar_NBK said:
Don't agree with this point. I had the Tab 10.1 for about 3-4 days and I had it mounted on my PC as a plug-play device and was able to transfer files directly. All your need is to install the proper USB drivers from the Samsung US site
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Yeah, you could be right. I'm just so happy with the flexibility of the TF that for now (and for now could be 1-3 months lol) it's the one I'm choosing. IAs I stressed, this is just my humble opinion, hope everybody is happy with their respective choices.

glad to see that are still people who can choose between products without trashing another.
i'm stlll not sure if i'll send my tf back. i do like the versatility it has but seeing that i am keeping my gt 10.1 it's really hard to justify keeping it.

I don't think the keyboard dock can be stressed enough, and I wish I saw more advertising from Asus around the tremendous increase in productivity it provides. It's really not "just" an external keyboard or dock. It really does turn the TF into a completely different class of machine.
That said, I'll admit that if it weren't for the dock, I'd probably opt for the GT 10.1. I don't really use the microSD card I have in my TF right now, and I doubt I'll ever use HDMI. So if choosing between the two on the screen, size and weight alone, I'd probably lean toward the GT. However, man, the keyboard dock makes me want to stick with the TF no matter what else might be out there. As someone who needs to be able to write long-form stuff anywhere, I can't think of a better device than the TF...
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i'd have to suppose the lack of advertising is one major factor for the price of the tablet. moto, apple, samsung all have commercials yet i've not seen one asus commercial, not even for their laptops.

To each his own I guess. I played with them all as well including the acer and viewsonic and kept the wifi Xoom. I really wanted to like the Asus because of price but it was just as bulky as my xoom and had serious build quality issues. The Asus screen was great, the quality around the screen, not so much. Enjoy your new toy dude. Aint technology fun
The only one I haven't played with is the tab 10.1, I secretly want one but Samsung and I have bad history.
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That said, I'll admit that if it weren't for the dock, I'd probably opt for the GT 10.1. I don't really use the microSD card I have in my TF right now, and I doubt I'll ever use HDMI. So if choosing between the two on the screen, size and weight alone, I'd probably lean toward the GT. However, man, the keyboard dock makes me want to stick with the TF no matter what else might be out there. As someone who needs to be able to write long-form stuff anywhere, I can't think of a better device than the TF...
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This!
The dock is the absolute biggest reason for my choice. With my BT mouse (dislike trackpads) I feel like I'm using a real computer, with 16hr batter life and tablet flexibility. Love the shape, size and design of both the iPad and Tab 10.1, but just love the flexibility of the keybd dock too much - at least for the next 90 days or so. ;-)

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This!
The dock is the absolute biggest reason for my choice. With my BT mouse (dislike trackpads) I feel like I'm using a real computer, with 16hr batter life and tablet flexibility. Love the shape, size and design of both the iPad and Tab 10.1, but just love the flexibility of the keybd dock too much - at least for the next 90 days or so. ;-)
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wynand32 said:
I don't think the keyboard dock can be stressed enough, and I wish I saw more advertising from Asus around the tremendous increase in productivity it provides. It's really not "just" an external keyboard or dock. It really does turn the TF into a completely different class of machine.
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Not just a different class of machine, but two machines!

My 2 Bitz
Ok, I'm a little late to the game... but if anyone buys one of these tablets second hand.... like I just did, then here goes nothing: I bought a Motorola XOOM wifi (32gb) and an Asus TF101 (16gb) (and I nearly bought a Galaxy Tab 1 and an iPad Gen. 1). It's my first tablet; I haven't yet figured out what I'm gonna do with it, but there ya go.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 1: I passed on the Sammy because it did not have an SD card slot.
iPad Gen. 1: I passed on the iPad because.... well, it's an iPad. About as useful as a maxi-pad to me. I was put off by the closed system. It means far less choices for free or hard-to-get apps (of the kind I might need), and limited storage with no SD card options. It wouldn't do, even for a kid's tablet. (Despite the fact I have an iPhone....).
Asus Transformer Eee Pad TF101: I really wish they would have stuck to one name, and left it at that. What was the original name? The "Asus Transormer Mario Consuela Maria Concito Esperanto Gonzalez Eeee Pad TF-101"?
Motorola Xoom: Anyway, it came down to Asus and the Xoom. And boy, I had a hard time deciding. So hard, I spent 3 days of my life testing these two tablets, up, down, backwards and forwards. I ended up settling on the Xoom, but first, the Asus....
The Asus has a gorgeous screen, compared to the Xoom. The TF101 is sharper, more clarity, brighter, blacks and whites are more darker and brighter, respectively. Better contrast and angle viewing, and reading books is less of a strain with a more muted white for the background.
THe sound of the Asus however, is like slamming a suitcase lid down on twelve kittens while Freddy Krueger scratches his name out on the chalkboard. It's the ridiculous choice of stuffing really tiny speakers so they can fire out both sides of the unit. Even EQ'ing the thing with Viper4FX could not hide the tinny shortcomings of the speaker sound. Which also had a tendency to break up at louder volumes (its particularly keen to distorting around 500hz). Connected to a stereo though, was quite another matter.
Though much less bass, richness and body, the Asus resolved timbre better than the Xoom on music program material, output through a stereo via headphone jacks. However, I still preferred the sound of the XOoms (yes, "Xooms" as in I had TWO Xooms to compare), because the Asus was causing some degree of stress through its sound and picture, as compared with the calmer energy of the Xooms.
The construction of the Asus was nice in parts (ie. color, back design, aluminum frame)... but the superb construction, design, looks, case and smaller size of the Xooms is what pushed me toward the Motorola choice. I have not seen any tablet as well built as the Xoom. The Xoom has a timeless design and hough it is heavy on the wrist if you have to hold it up, it just feels nicer in the hand than the ultra-wide Transformer; which appears more dated due to its size and design. The really nice charging dock and 32gb internal (vs 16gb of Asus) also helped me accept the inferior colors and viewing angle of the Xoom. I also liked the nice design of the various white & green charging LEDs, around the screen of the Xoom - the Asus has none of that. I was not enamored by the fact that Asus required special prorpietary data cables, where the Xoom uses microUSB. What also pushed me toward the Xoom was the mediocre camera in the Asus. No flash and grainy photos (though it let in an unusual amount of light, despite or because of no flash... but it was too much light, and washed out detail at times). The Xoom 5mp camera was excellent... perhaps better than that on my iPhone. I like the idea of snapping pictures on a tablet, because of the large viewfinder.
I'm kind of a stickler when it comes to design. On pure performance and lightness of weight, the Asus wins. But you might not feel like a winner, trying to listen to vidoes and music on those tinny built in speakers for extended periods of time.
My wife has a Samsung Tab 4, and comparing it with the Asus, I don't find the Tab 4 any much better in any way, and in some ways, not as a good (it has a cheaper build, for example).

What other tablets look good?

I have not yet bought the xoom. But it is the leader in the group of four that I am looking at. I am not sure how I will use the tablet to be honest, so I want the one with the most features possible and the best apps. I am a software engineer, so I can "get it to work", but would prefer something nice out of the box.
Hardware wish list: GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G, HDMI, USB, SD card, good battery list, replaceable battery.
Software wish list: Napster, Netflix, great video player, good flash rendering, ease of data transfer.
Accessories wish list: nice integrated docking/keyboard if possible.
What do you think about any of these models
1) Motorola Xoom
2) Toshiba Thrive
3) Lenova thinkpad, ideapad
4) asus eee transformer

imo you make choice between:
xoom
samsung
ipad
you will not get everything,eg,ipad has best apps but no microsd and high cost.
xoom has microsd but not that much apps as ipad do have.

i hear great things about the Thrive. it would be my choice if i didnt own a xoom. The Iconia is pretty nice too.

If I didn't own the Xoom I'd own a Transformer. Assuming I didn't need the data. Hands on experience with both.

consider this in your comparison as it looks good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273078

If I were buying today, I'd checkout the Lenovo Thinkpad Android Tablet as it has a stylus for handwriting. They also make an Ideapad model which is more consumer oriented.

balaams_ass, what do you mean by
Assuming I didn't need the data.
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thebrenda said:
balaams_ass, what do you mean by ??
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it is with reference to internal storage and micro sd card slot

rohit3192 said:
it is with reference to internal storage and micro sd card slot
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I think it's in reference to the Xoom and the iPad both having Wireless Network Carrier support. Whereas I believe the Thrive and the Transformer are both Wifi only.

mgerbasio said:
If I were buying today, I'd checkout the Lenovo Thinkpad Android Tablet as it has a stylus for handwriting. They also make an Ideapad model which is more consumer oriented.
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reviews about their ideapad say it sucks as hell and very buggy, i guess there will be no difference with the thinkpad, i am glad i didn't get the ideapad

I would have to say if I wasn't that into Motorola, I would go with Samsung and their Galaxy Tab 10.1. It has a sleek design, is thin, light weight, and a good choice in my opinion. It has a weaker camera because of the redesign to make it slimmer and lighter than before, but still is a rockin' good Honeycomb tablet no doubt!

>What other tablets look good?
The ones coming next month, alongside ICS release.
Example: The Toshiba Excite (AT200), follow-up of Thrive, is thinnest tablet, with micro-USB/SD/HDMI.
If you need one now, then buy it now. Otherwise, it's close to the start of the next product cycle. Not good to buy old toys just as new toys are about to be released.

thebrenda said:
balaams_ass, what do you mean by ??
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data plan - most don't have 3G or 4G hardware; only WIFI

Sony for style. then it's just the xoom
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Sony for style. then it's just the xoom
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....my thoughts exactly

I had the Thrive. It was awful. Hardware failure within the first day.
Overall even when I had the chance to use it (for 45 minutes) It wasnt super responsive. I couldnt care less about the ports and the size was not natural for a tablet.
Im glad I went to the XOOM. Better build quality all around and it just feels like a solid tablet with solid features (and support in the future).
Galaxy was nice but no SD if I remember correctly. And no ports. Screen was nice but it actually looked a little too bright (if thats possible)
The IdeaPad I played with was supper buggy and laggy - and its build quality disappointed me for a Lenovo product - way too much flex. Flex is a concern for me considering what these machines are meant to do on a day to day basis.
All in all its best to just play with them. I went to best buy and went to town on all of the tablets. Good luck!

Iv had the thrive, advent vega and now the XOOM the wife owns an ipad 2. I hated the thrive the day I got it im big on the latest tech and always move with the times and the thrive was like a step backwards laggy and buggy as hell. The vega is awesome for the price and has honeycomb when rooted and all the ports you cood need however screen quality and looks ect are nothing compared to my XOOM its a top quality product. I tested a galaxy tab 10.1 that I got sent to review and would say that they have made a lot of sacrifices for the slimness. As for the wifes iPad2 its like Apple still own it when you buy it ahha
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I think the Sony Tablet S looks pretty good, and the unique style is growing on me a lot. Of all the reviews I've read of it they all say the shape gives it a better 'feel' in terms of just having it in your hands and carrying it around.
Second place? I don't care what anybody says, the Xoom is a sexy beast. It has the best screen ratio IMO and edge to screen proportion. No front buttons is awesome and kind of underrated. It looks somewhere between "tough and functional" and "sleek".
Happy spendings!

I had an Iconia tab, and if gps is important, avoid it, as it's only A-GPS. You have to be connected to wifi to get a lock, which wasn't working all that well for me. I picked up a Xoom and haven't looked back. One thing that impressed me was the build quality. The Xoom feels so well built its not even funny. I think that this thing could take a bullet, it feels that solid.
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Having issues with Prime wifi. Best bet to get TF101?

So I received my Transformer Prime today and am having wifi issues (very poor connection strength). Also, I have a group of very bright pixels on the screen.
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
Is this a good move? I've never owned the original Transformer and hope that it is plenty fast to play flash content. Anyone care to offer a POV on this decision?
I plan on getting the newer Transformer in Q2 when it's rumored to release.

i think you should go for it !

I returned my Prime due to the "Unknown Serial Number", and bought the TF101. Although WiFi wasn't bad on my Prime, it is better on my TF101. My TF101 also performs flawlessly, and doesn't have any of the common issues some of the Primes suffer from. I'm happy I "downgraded".

I am in the same situation. I was contemplating the TF101 vs TF201. It was not an issue of money, though availability became an issue as TF201 stock got sold out. I just wanted a flawless Internet experience so having poor wifi was not good. It seems like Asus is in flux right now so better to get a stable machine. I will see what happens at the end of the year, maybe upgrade to TF700. I originally got a Windows tab which actually was not that bad of a touch experience. I had the Acer W500 which is the same form factor as the prime basically with the 10" tab and keyboard dock. It was also heavy, slow and the battery life was poor (<5 hours). I think the TF101 will be a lot of fun.

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed
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But that isn't going to help the OP's pixel issue and pixel deformities are annoying as ****.
Just return it and either get the TF101 or wait for the TF700T. Really the TF101 should be much easier to find and much cheaper. You'll have less of a hassle finding it and it's tried and true. It was much too early for them to release the prime so it's not like you're losing something.

Interesting to see that I am not alone on this.
This week I returned my 3rd prime and was very close to say "Screw Asus" and look for a Windows tablet but then I thought why not give the original Transformer a shot. I got it yesterday and have to admit I am really impressed.
Everything works as it should, it has two USB ports instead of one, stereo speakers instead of one, a better hardware keyboard (at least in my opinion), the USB transfer rate seems to be much better, the screen seems to be more responsive and it is much cheaper.
And the funniest thing of em all: I don´t know why but it is even faster than Prime. Of course not in 3D games or stuff like that or 1080p videos etc.
But while doing normal usage, e-mailing, writing, watching videos, browsing etc.
And I havn´t even tried a custom ROM, yet.
Just to make this clear: I am comparing ICS Prime (three actually) to HC original Transformer. Which makes no sense to me.
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
And since I am planning to keep my Transformer only for a few months until the Padfone or the TF700 is out I think this was a really good decision.

prime is a prototype.. not ready for the public. it tells others that quad core is now possible/.

Came lookin' for the same question/answer. Have the T201 and has issues like 80% of everyone else. Bluetooth/wifi is a joke on the 201...I love using it for remote access to my Win7 box, but seems that when I'm streaming Spotify, if cuts out and loses connection. And, this is upstairs from my router 15 feet a way.
I guess it's time to research the h*** out of the T101 like I did the 201. 399 at bestbuy this week...will search for cheaper this week . . .

Me Too...Prime's WiFi WeaK Compared to Other Tablets
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?

Ride525 said:
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..

luna_c666 said:
Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..
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Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".

Ride525 said:
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Someone09 said:
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
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In short: If you can handle the size/weight and looks of the TF101, you should get it. Just my two cents.
EDIT: And of course the Prime´s camera is better and it behaves better with 3D games etc...at least in theory.

Ride525 said:
Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".
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You are right, my bad they do have the same size screen (I was thinking of the TF700) but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), but the ICS update has been bricking people's Primes, it also has crappy wifi/bluetooth as reported..
I say the TF101 is a safer bet, the TF201 is more a prototype as mentioned..not really ready for commercial consumption, more like the icebreaker paving the way for the real cargo ship (TF700)

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[...] but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), [...]
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That is true, too. The question is if it worth it.
I mean if you turn Super IPS mode + highest brightness settings you might easily get a sunburn from it...I don´t need that setting.

Your only really option is to get the TF101. Everything else is not preferable based on price : features or price : performance ratio.
With the Galaxy Tab 10.1 you're paying too much for what you're getting, that is good hardware and a good design but no or little updates. The hardware is roughly comparable to the TF101 so really all that you're getting out of it is good design, no expansion slot, no/little updates and pay more. Do not want.
The TF101 hits the sweet spot in terms of what you get for how much you pay and you're guaranteed to get ICS and most likely more updates after that. We've been getting updates for HC like what, once or twice every two months? Don't even think you'll see anything close to that with Sammy. Maybe one update a year or two.
The TF201 is good looking and good hardware and it shares the same Asus speed in terms of upgrades but the connectivity and build quality + launch issues leave a lot to be desired. It's confidence shaking, would I want to keep a tablet where the Wi-Fi and GPS are already **** and there's a possibility it might get worse? For $500 and with a successor already on the horizon? Do not want. Really it was a rushed, piece of garbage that's DOA. This is what happened when they decided to rush something rather than do their time with more R&D and releasing it in a more suitable time frame. They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.

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They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.
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Amen to that.
Plus, I hope the same applies to the Padfone.

The TF101 has much better WiFi than the Prime.
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ericshmerick said:
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
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Honestly, the TF101 will likely be better than that successor model, too. The latter has far too high screen resolution, which will lead to problems in some apps, give no advantage at all in most apps (just extra blur from scaling), and cause eye strain in some apps. As an added bonus, it'll reduce battery life and make everything slower.
All so Asus can put a bigger-is-better number on a spec sheet.
They got it right with the TF101, by and large. They're struggling to invent a reason for people to upgrade, and not doing a great job of it.

Being an early adopter of the TF101(my first one was a B40) I had to deal with the pain of owning a new model. Asus has been right on time with their updates and they pay attention to what people post on the internet. It is my opinion that in a few months the Prime will be ready for prime time. But until then I will do my best to wear out my B50 Transformer. It is a great little device totally stock.