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The Blackstone is the first smart/windows mobile phone i have had so after recieving my phone i tried some of my video files but (as i expected) windows media wudn't play them, i have seen on other threads that alot of people mention Core Player 1.2.5 and wondered if anyone could give answer me a few quick questions:
1. Does Core Player play most formats (im trying to play x264.mp4 and dixv .avi)
2. Where can i find Core Player?
3. is it a free program? if not how much is it in GBP?
Go to www.coreplayer.com and see for yourself. I think on their homepage they anwser pretty much all your questions.
Ascenca
Thanks - Don't know why didn't find their site!
I had this problem - Core Player 1.2.5 plays all files perfectly on the HD - commuting will never be the same again...
Which version do i need?
CorePlayer Mobile For PocketPC / Windows Mobile
CorePlayer Mobile for SmartPhone
I assume its the SmartPhone version?
This is the version you need: https://www.mobihand.com/cart1.asp?posid=130&pid=8905
(mobile/WM)
HD is a PocketPC
working
Coreplayer 2,5 works perfectly.The PocketPc version the smartphone one is for devices without touchscreen.
Its a commercial software.
Ideal is to use the Qtv display as video output.
I tried different encoded format and the best result is encode the avi files with following attributes:
dimension 640*480
Bitrate between 700 and 750
Framerate 25fps
Audio MP3
Stereo 128kps
Frecuency 44100 Hz.
You can use a higher bitrate till 1200 , but the video doen't play always very smootly then
I tried a couple widescreen (960x540) files in different formats (wmv, mov, avi) with coreplayer 2.5, and none of them would play anywhere near smoothly. the mov played with about 1.5 fps, the wmv with about 5 fps und the avi with something like 7 fps. do any of the numerous settings in coreplayer need to be changed or is the device simply not powerful enough for full native resolution video playback?
just tried some more videos, this time a 1 MBit/s 480x270 wmv file, and even that couldn't be played in any useful way:
played frames: 85
dropped: 447
did you change anything in the core player settings to achieve proper playback?
obstler said:
I tried a couple widescreen (960x540) files in different formats (wmv, mov, avi) with coreplayer 2.5, and none of them would play anywhere near smoothly. the mov played with about 1.5 fps, the wmv with about 5 fps und the avi with something like 7 fps. do any of the numerous settings in coreplayer need to be changed or is the device simply not powerful enough for full native resolution video playback?
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Firstly, the issue with the video files comes from the fact that they're larger than the resolution of the screen. (your video=960x540, HD=800x460) This means that as well as decoding and playing the video, it also has to scale the video down to it's resolution. This is why it's stuttering. Full native resolution video playback is 800x640 which, incidentally, is the native resolution of DVDs, so if DVD rips have been encoded properly, should not need resizing or re-encoding to play on the HD. (feel free to be skeptical of this, I don't own a HD yet so can't confirm this)
The 1Mbps file possibly wasn't playing properly for that exact reason, it was 1Mbps. As BerreZ states, the highest bitrate to get good playback is 750Kbp
Thanks, got CorePlayer up and running now works like a dream!
I'm waiting for funds to clear so i can finally order one of these bad boys. I'm not too demanding when it comes to video playback on the phone. 700KBPS is the standard encoding of dvd rips isn't it? like, your traditional torrent movie file.So it looks like we can play them on the HD then using coreplayer? I'm not to concerned about HD quality playback and i've been using an XDA2i for 5 years, mainly for clips and such when bored at the bus station .
Maybe with a higher capacity card I might throw a movie or two on there
....IB a n e
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I'm waiting for funds to clear so i can finally order one of these bad boys. I'm not too demanding when it comes to video playback on the phone. 700KBPS is the standard encoding of dvd rips isn't it? like, your traditional torrent movie file.So it looks like we can play them on the HD then using coreplayer? I'm not to concerned about HD quality playback and i've been using an XDA2i for 5 years, mainly for clips and such when bored at the bus station .
Maybe with a higher capacity card I might throw a movie or two on there
....IB a n e
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a)Native DVD resolution is not 800x640
b)700Kbps is not the "Standard Encoding" for DVD rips.
bitrate will depend on the size of the encode, the length of the movie.
Apologies, my mistake.
...Ib a n e
Urgh -it's payware. Another cost.
Is there a decent free avi/media player?
One time, I got a cab, but lost it, with some codecs to play divx and other on the Media player. Does anyone knows something like that??
I just purchased CorePlayer. It gave me v1.3.6 not 2.5. Anyway I have tried a divx and avi film. With both I just saw a green haze for a bit and I needed to soft reset the device to recover.
I downloaded the cab not exe and installed it directly onto the device. My films are on storage.
I get a "Copy & Convert" dialogue box with "Convertion (None)" and it seems to do nothing for a while but it does seem to copy the file across ok. What that means is I can see it in explorer. That said it seems to take several runs at it and the bars never go beyond three or so.
Have I just got the wrong resolution?
Any ideas?
hi guys,
I'm glad having a Xperia since last week....but I'm unable to run videos fluently - even with TCPMP 0.72RC1.
There was a "James Bond" trailer von the device when I have bought it, but it runs with 1 frame per 5-10 seconds!
even other movies don't play fluently.
Yesterday I did a hard-reset....but this didn't help.
Does anyone have the same problems?? Or a solution for this probs?
I even tryed out the "Turbo Speed X1 - Up to 8 X faster Performance than standard setup"...but even this didn't help...
//edit: there's no branding on the device...ROM: 1.02.932.3 from 08/29/2008
hi Cysign,
first i have to say sorry... i cannot help you with your specific problem.
but i have got a related problem. the bond trailer runs ok with my x1i... so i tried to rip a dvd for the x1 by myself using the following conversion-settings:
video: 480x270, h264, mp4, 25fps (pal) @ 796kbps
audio: aac @ 128kbps
this resulted in a 706mb file.
i copied the file via active sync to the 8gb flash card in the phone. all went well so far but when i watch the movie it looks somewhat "artificial". meaning that this movie looks like it was made by using a home-videocamera. (i hope this discribes it a little)
the bond trailer doesnt have this videoish appearance.
what went wrong ? are my settings exceeding the capabilities of the x1? or do you have other suggestions ? (btw, i tried to use the same settings as the bond trailer)
greetz
Did you guys trying increasing the buffering size in ur players? I personally use core player 2.0 and it plays perfectly but sometimes and this is rare but its like the graphics gpu is failing or something. All the images appear on the screen very slowly but a hard reset usually fixes that.
Guys, when I try to play the Bond movie, it prompt for license cert etc but it is still not able to play. How to resolve this problem?
chongbh said:
Guys, when I try to play the Bond movie, it prompt for license cert etc but it is still not able to play. How to resolve this problem?
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which player?
that bond trailer ran pretty good on my x1a. i cant remember if i watched the whole thing or just to see how it ran but from what i did see, it was good. no lag or freeze up. i played it on the standard media player that came on the phone. i didnt play it thru the panel tho, i just played it by opening up media player. how were you running it? my x1a is pretty much all stock with no hacks on it.
i also had some movies that i ripped in .3gp format and from what i can tell, it also ran pretty good. i ripped these movies for my other phone (lg cu500) and my nokia internet tablet and so it also runs pretty good on the x1a.
i like ripping in .3gp because i can play it on any of my devices and the files are about 100mb per two hour movie. i think my resolution that i ripped my dvd was something like 480 x 240 but im not for certain. its kind of funny that not all devices will run mpeg because of the different variations of mpeg. kind of dissapointing when a product says it will a certain format but when you try and run it, it just so happen it doesnt support that perticular format.
Try Media Xperiance Panel, it is by far better than Core/TCPMP/WMP.
I think the media panel is the only app that support Hardware Accelerate in X1 at the moment.
but it doesn't play most formats and even some of my mp4s sadly
Similar problem here.
The only vid that plays well is the bond trailer.
All others (wmv) are played but with a horrible fps rate
Tried to start media player directly from the today screen and via panel... no difference.
Looks like a fast slideshow.
kanthai said:
Try Media Xperiance Panel, it is by far better than Core/TCPMP/WMP.
I think the media panel is the only app that support Hardware Accelerate in X1 at the moment.
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i tried both, playing via wmp and the media panel but the appearance of my ripped movie stays the same....
there is no stuttering but (as i said in my first post) it looks like it has something to do with the framerate. ?
btw, here is a readout from the program "super 2008 build 33" of the bond trailer:
Video
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Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : [email protected]
Codec settings, CABAC : No
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 2
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 892 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 260 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate mode : CFR
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.298
StreamSize/String : 12.6 MiB
Language : English
Audio
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Codec : AAC LC
Codec/Family : AAC
Codec/Info : AAC Low Complexity
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize/String : 1.81 MiB
Language : English
I tried a My name is Earl episode a few days ago. It's in 1280x720 resolution so I thought it would be a good starting point for a test.
I managed to play it ok i media player at 800x448 or around there, but only with 600 kbps bitrate. It looked ok and played fairly smooth. I would say around 20 fps.
For recoding I used the Xvid4PSP program with modified default MP4 profile.
You need to use x264 (AVC) profile 4.2 and AAC LC (Low complexity). Then it should play with hardware acceleration.
800x480 resolution may be overkill, since the pixels are so tiny, so I would recommend a much lower resolution (600x'something') and around 600 kbps bitrate for a nice result.
I just run the 350mb (ish) avi files direct in Coreplayer.
Res is around 640x352.
TV shows are fine, and IronMan only had a few drops in the high action scenes.
Here's what I do with my videos:
Open PocketDivXEncoder on my pc.
Select HD-TV as the option.
Select the movies I want to endcode.
Drop video quality to 70.
Audio qaulity to maximum.
Resize video (keeping aspect ratio) to 400 horizontal.
Encode.
These all play in Coreplayer smooth as silk
I personally do absolutely nothing. I download a movie and just place it on my sd card and watch it through core player. It plays smooth with no compression at all.
try using spb mobile dvd to convert your movies, i've done this with some movies that didn't play smoothly and now they all work perfectly
Im currently using TCMP im just wondering if anyone has any ideas for the optimal settings for it
Cheers
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Did you guys trying increasing the buffering size in ur players? I personally use core player 2.0 and it plays perfectly but sometimes and this is rare but its like the graphics gpu is failing or something. All the images appear on the screen very slowly but a hard reset usually fixes that.
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what is a recommended buffer rate for watching videos?
Can someone confirm that the only player that utilises the media accelerator is the media panel?
I had thought that WMP also uses the accelerator.
Also what are the codecs the accelerator uses?
I've tried various MP4's and i've found only by lowering the resolution do I get smooth playback.
I'm currently going through the baselines for H.264 and found that baseline 3 does not play and baseline 1.3 does not get accelerated.
I'm currently (as I type) encoding a file with the baseline of 1 to see if that is accelerated.
I think we need to narrow down the exact codecs/media players/resolutions to use.
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I'm currently going through the baselines for H.264 and found that baseline 3 does not play and baseline 1.3 does not get accelerated. I'm currently (as I type) encoding a file with the baseline of 1 to see if that is accelerated. I think we need to narrow down the exact codecs/media players/resolutions to use.
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the bond trailer is [email protected]
i'm currently using "super2008.33" and the readout of my re-encoded movies show [email protected]
how can we "upgrade" this baseline thing to e.g. L2.1 ???
--> did a quick search on the net....but no info about that...
nucleic acid said:
the bond trailer is [email protected]
i'm currently using "super2008.33" and the readout of my re-encoded movies show [email protected]
how can we "upgrade" this baseline thing to e.g. L2.1 ???
--> did a quick search on the net....but no info about that...
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In super if you look in the video panel you can see the H264 Profile in the options section.
Click on the "H" button and the profiles pops open and select your baseline from there.
I've tried Baseline 1 now and still i'm not getting acceleration...the file still plays faster on Coreplayer than it does in the panel.
I'm wondering if this is because I have Jack's custom Rom using pubbas panel installer for the Media experience?
Also nobody answered me about whether or not WMP uses acceleration?
So has anyone been able to get a re-encoded video to playback on their atrix? I've been trying every setting I know of, but mvideoplayer says that my phone doesn't support any of them. I've been mostly trying variations of weightb=0:bframes=0:cabac=0:weightp=0:8x8dct=0, which should be baseline H264, but my phone refuses to play it. All my files are being reencoded at 720p, which should be supported, in an mkv container, which according to motorola, should be supported.
I'm going to do some tests and get back to you on this.
If you encode in FFmpeg the videos work fine. Even encoding 1080p videos in FFmpeg works perfectly at 100% frame rate and sound in the videoplayer.
Download VitalPlayer and you can play even stuff the Atrix doesn't support. The framerate and video looks great but the sound will stutter occasionally because it's all software-decoding. Video even worked up to 1080p with software decoding...so that's a pretty big testament to the power of Tegra 2.
My ultimate goal is to be able to play MKVs with high profile H264 and an embedded ASS subtitle file so that I can just drag and drop without having to deal with reencoding all my shows.
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My ultimate goal is to be able to play MKVs with high profile H264 and an embedded ASS subtitle file so that I can just drag and drop without having to deal with reencoding all my shows.
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Unfortunately, I think you're going to have to wait until the next generation of phones for that. iirc, Tegra 3 supports that, but I (and Wikipedia) might be wrong on that.
Right now, this is what I'm using (using MediaCoder because I'm a slacker and CUDA is fast and good enough for my needs):
x264/Baseline
Bitrate: Average/2048 Kbps
Level: Auto
B-Frames: 4
Dynamic GOP: on
CABAC: on
Deblocking: on
Resize: 800x480
I'd rather not do the resize (my source material in this case is 1280x720), but I haven't gotten video at 720p to keep up with the audio, even after dropping the bitrate to 1024 Kbps, B-frames to 2, and turning off dynamic GOP.
Anybody else have better luck?
Sogarth said:
Unfortunately, I think you're going to have to wait until the next generation of phones for that. iirc, Tegra 3 supports that, but I (and Wikipedia) might be wrong on that.
Right now, this is what I'm using (using MediaCoder because I'm a slacker and CUDA is fast and good enough for my needs):
x264/Baseline
Bitrate: Average/2048 Kbps
Level: Auto
B-Frames: 4
Dynamic GOP: on
CABAC: on
Deblocking: on
Resize: 800x480
I'd rather not do the resize (my source material in this case is 1280x720), but I haven't gotten video at 720p to keep up with the audio, even after dropping the bitrate to 1024 Kbps, B-frames to 2, and turning off dynamic GOP.
Anybody else have better luck?
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... The problem being that MediaCoder doesn't respect the "average bitrate" option very much, and it'll often generate files that have twice the "average bitrate" specified.
I've now started poking at Badaboom, which is able to generate 960x540 files (at which MediaCoder couldn't generate working files, for whatever reason). And, for that matter, it can generate 1280x720 files that the Atrix can play just fine (hey, closed source is good for something after all!). The settings I'm using at the moment:
Video Encoder:
Profile: Baseline
Key Frame Mode: Auto
Level: Auto
Rate Control Select: VBR
Bitrate is 2460kbit
Picture Settings:
Display Res: 1280x720
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... The problem being that MediaCoder doesn't respect the "average bitrate" option very much, and it'll often generate files that have twice the "average bitrate" specified.
I've now started poking at Badaboom, which is able to generate 960x540 files (at which MediaCoder couldn't generate working files, for whatever reason). And, for that matter, it can generate 1280x720 files that the Atrix can play just fine (hey, closed source is good for something after all!). The settings I'm using at the moment:
Video Encoder:
Profile: Baseline
Key Frame Mode: Auto
Level: Auto
Rate Control Select: VBR
Bitrate is 2460kbit
Picture Settings:
Display Res: 1280x720
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Only problems with Badaboom is that it only works with NVidia cards (fine with me...I own the program and use it frequently) and NVidia updates the program about once a year. The support for Badaboom is horrendous.
hotleadsingerguy said:
Only problems with Badaboom is that it only works with NVidia cards (fine with me...I own the program and use it frequently) and NVidia updates the program about once a year. The support for Badaboom is horrendous.
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True, there are the restrictions on it, but I was really just pointing out that it's possible to get h.264 videos working on it.
And minor quibble: NVIDIA's not responsible for updates to it. Elemental is.
Video convert atrix 720p
Okay I got this to work on my Mac now given This is a mac... I took a 720p wmv hd movie and opened in quicktime x with flip 4 mac plugin installed. and went to save as... 720p movie... once done it did not play and did not show up with hdmi out I then renamed the file to .mp4 and it played fine on the device with video player and thru hdmi. I am currently converting a 1080p .mov the same way but this time from a 1080p to a 1080p then I will rename .mp4 and see will post results soon.
1080p worked exactly the same!
Got my atrix yesterday, and I'm having some media issues too. Gonna spend the entirety of tomorrow tweaking Megui profiles to make this thing play back content.
So far i have found using rockplayer lite:
720x480 anamorphic (848x480) w/ x264 (q19/unrestricted) and dolby plII aac @ q0.5 plays flawlessly
1024x576 (same settings as above) not so much.
Gonna play with the profiles and such to find what works well...
Sogarth said:
... The problem being that MediaCoder doesn't respect the "average bitrate" option very much, and it'll often generate files that have twice the "average bitrate" specified.
I've now started poking at Badaboom, which is able to generate 960x540 files (at which MediaCoder couldn't generate working files, for whatever reason). And, for that matter, it can generate 1280x720 files that the Atrix can play just fine (hey, closed source is good for something after all!). The settings I'm using at the moment:
Video Encoder:
Profile: Baseline
Key Frame Mode: Auto
Level: Auto
Rate Control Select: VBR
Bitrate is 2460kbit
Picture Settings:
Display Res: 1280x720
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Is this on badaboom?
I chose a mere 1000kbps, with 960x540 (apple TV profile)
and i get an error playing (rock player plays it fine tho)
that was the settings recomended by bababoom site
but i think they screwed up cause apple tv uses main profile
i think tegra 2 is baseline (what i understood from xoom)
and yup just tried with galaxy S preset (baseline), change size to 1280x720
bitrate 3500kbps, sweet sweet 720p on my atrix
1920x1080p
10mbps also worked
tegra is a beast
Test file:
http://hotfile.com/dl/108279465/e51a41a/goal2.mp4.html
Ah. That was my issue. Changed the encoder profile to Baseline and [email protected] works great. Too bad the baseline profile almost doubles the filesizes from the high profile...
Hello all I just got my E Pad and looking to load some movies onto it.
Can anyone tell me the best format to use for quality. I have an 8Gig Micro to use for videos. I also use DVDFab for converting.
Thanks
Diverwes
I'm wondering this as well. I've seen a few threads on here regarding 720p settings, but how about non-hidef? What would people recommend using? I copied some movies over to my TF when I first got it and the playback was horrible, regardless of what player I used.
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I'm wondering this as well. I've seen a few threads on here regarding 720p settings, but how about non-hidef? What would people recommend using? I copied some movies over to my TF when I first got it and the playback was horrible, regardless of what player I used.
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Anything works for non-HD, just make sure you play it with something like Mobo Player, the default player doesn't support that many formats, nor does it play it as smoothly. In terms of HD, just look at the handbrake preset or install Mediainfo to check what profile your h264 video is at (Baseline, Main, High), it usually is Main/High. If it is 720p High, you may try playing it, but anything with more than 3 reference frames will lag.
something weard is i converted some movies they play but only at 2x they fly through.
diverwes said:
something weard is i converted some movies they play but only at 2x they fly through.
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I had this issue too. The file was an MP4 H.264 encoded file but the audio codec was not in stereo.
I re-encoded the movie using AVS Video Converter with these settings:
Frame Size: 1280x 720 (depending on movie format)
Video Codec: H.264/AVC
Frame rate: 24fps or match source video
Bitrate: 1500KBs video
Video Advanced: Multi-pass (first pass fast)
Audio Codec: MPEG-2/4 Audio 192KBS Stereo not 5.1
File type: MP4 PSP
With these settings, high def videos play awesome on my Transformer both on stock player and Rock Player with hardware decoding setting.
Hi Guys,
Hoping someone can help me out here.
I made a Video recording from my gs2 (Stock firmware)Superfine, Max Resolution, Default camera app. 3.99gb File Size (I think this could be a factor, my other smaller recordings play fine - Maybe someone could try record to max and see if it playsback on PC (the recording automatically stops when it reaches 4gb i believe) )
Its recorded as a Mp4 file. (when i inspect it via my gs2 it says 3gpp format).
It plays fine from my gs2, however it just wont play on PC.
Tried VLC and also download various codecs, but still no luck. Also tried about 6 converters but none of them could even load the file.
Would really appreciate any help!
cheers.
You can play it back with a video player that supports mp4 H264 playback.
I use the x264 codec plus Media Player Home Cinema or Apple's Quicktime to play back.