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My company upgraded their exchange server, and now requires lock screens (PIN or password, no pattern) if we want to access email on our personal phones.
As someone with a rooted phone, is there any way to disable this and still have access to my corporate email? It's really annoying to have to punch in a PIN 500 times a day, but I really do need email access on my phone as much as I'm on the road.
I think this has been discussed before, but maybe on a different phone (HeroC maybe) But essentially no there isn't away - to access the server the phone goes through a series of checks, one of the checks being that an appropraite pin was entered to unlock the phone. if that check fails, authentication to the server is denied. Someone *might* be able to spoof the check in the email app, but I am fairly sure its actually OS deep, not just within the mail client.
So it would be a large undertaking and potentially could cause you to loose your job by by passing security measures. I know I wouldn't think twice about firing someone who did it on my network.
No way that I know of, and is something that is on pretty much everyphone. Blackberrys the security policies can even block installation of 3rd party applications.
What's even more fun for you, is the ability of your it staff to lock you out of your phone or even remotely wipe your phone.
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Restola said:
My company upgraded their exchange server, and now requires lock screens (PIN or password, no pattern) if we want to access email on our personal phones.
As someone with a rooted phone, is there any way to disable this and still have access to my corporate email? It's really annoying to have to punch in a PIN 500 times a day, but I really do need email access on my phone as much as I'm on the road.
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I think you are stuck. Do you have the option of getting a company-supplied phone to access the company email, and keep your personal Android separate?
There is a thread in Q&A talking about an app that does this.
Do you BONSAI?
Actually there is a way I had to do it to my coworkers phone for her pattern lock
What u need: locked phone phones #, wifi or u can use wifi tether if u have another phone
1. Call the persons phone #
2. Leave phone call connected on both sides
3. Connect to wifi if u havnt already
4. Goto settings/accounts manager setting or what ever and log into a diff google account then it should require u to change the password to by pass it
Should work hopefully I read this thread correctly and answered appropietly
Edit sorry read it wrong and u don't think there is a way
My way is how u get around it
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Here's the link to the thread that may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033017
I thought it was just being big brother, turns out its a regulatory requirement since we were bought by a publicly traded company. I guess I'll deal with it. If it pisses me off too much I'll just get rid of my exchange account on my phone and stop responding to emails when I'm not at my desk.
A possible workaround would be to try touhdwn for your exchange mail instead of the default mail client. Its a paid app but there should be a demo version in the market. I have a dp2 for work and they pay for touchdown for us. When using touhdown it pin locks just the app instead of whole phone. On my Droid at least moto customized the screen timeout and lock to be different timers so I found the pin to be less annoying than the interface of touchdown.
With the epics slightly bigger screen to make the TD interface a litte less annoying(lots of small buttons instead of utilizing menu button) and since epics lock is all or nothing I think I might actually use TD on my epic if I were getting my corp email there.
While not a complete removal of the pin maybe it would at least make it less annoying for you. Plus I'd guess if work catches you wihout a pin it might not go over well. TD solution lets you protect the email if you lose your phone, and does have a remote wipe for the same scenario.
First off I take no credit for this at all. All credit goes to Rsotbiemrptson who is a Jedi master for creating this after many have tried and failed.
What you have here is a flashable crack to the HTC Mail.apk that will bypass any and all security administrators that may be otherwise forced onto your device when syncing to an exchange server.
To install:
1. You must remove all mail accounts that you have set up in the Mail app.
2. If you have any existing security administrators present from a previous exchange sync deactivate them.
3. Set your lock time out to none under security settings.
4. Reboot into recovery and wipe Dalvik Cache
5. Flash the attached file.
As with all mods or changes to ROMS do a complete backup in recovery.
If you find this useful please send all thanks to Rsotbiemrptson for cracking this bad boy.
Has anyone tried this?
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Has anyone tried this?
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I don't really understand the point of it. Is there something wrong with Exchange on the Tbolt? Mine works fine.
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I don't really understand the point of it. Is there something wrong with Exchange on the Tbolt? Mine works fine.
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This is for people who want to use their Exchange account on their Tbolt, but DON'T want to give their Exchange admin the ability to enforce security policies on their phone (like having to enter a PIN every time you unlock the screen). Sounds like your Exchange admin doesn't implement any of those policies, so you don't need this.
Is this something that was implemented in newer versions of Exchange? I think my company uses 2007 still. Might be why I haven't seen this.
i managed to get my gmail, hotmail an windjammercable mail setup though exchange on my thunderbolt, but i kept getting sync errors where it would try to sync all three emails like every 5 seconds when the phone was operating in peak time. My battery went from like 100 to like 75 in less than 20 minutes So i had to just delete all the email setting i changed an go back to what i had before.
Now, if install your mail akp will this stop the sync errors?
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Is this something that was implemented in newer versions of Exchange? I think my company uses 2007 still. Might be why I haven't seen this.
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It's been around since at least the 2003 version but it's all optional settings, your admin may just not have them enabled. Mine doesn't.
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It's been around since at least the 2003 version but it's all optional settings, your admin may just not have them enabled. Mine doesn't.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me
This absolutely works on all DAS BAMF roms but should work on any ROM including stock. You only need this if you have exchange policies pushed to your phone by your company. If you don't know what this is you prob don't need it.
I do not know if it will fix the afore mentioned sync errors but I would doubt it.
Here's a new question. When I had CM7 on my Incredible, Exchange wanted to setup device admin rights. Now on my Tbolt with Sense I don't get asked. Any idea why?
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This absolutely works on all DAS BAMF roms but should work on any ROM including stock. You only need this if you have exchange policies pushed to your phone by your company. If you don't know what this is you prob don't need it.
I do not know if it will fix the afore mentioned sync errors but I would doubt it.
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I have installed this on DAS BAMF remix v1.4 and it does work so far. I was able to remove the PIN lock and use a pattern lock, which was not permitted before. Also, I didn't get the exchange security policy notice when I added my exchange account. Syncing appears to be working properly as well so far.
The mod is quite honestly ridiculous. Whats the point of trying to have security setup and protect possible sensitive information, when you don't want an Admin to enforce security rights.
This 100% defeats the purpose that was set in place by Exchange for good reason's. I sure hope everyone understands the SERIOUS consequences of what could happen by flashing this and possibly leak sensitive data into the wrong hands.
^^ it's a very good point. One of the problems with AS and lock screens is that with the default client and iPhones you have to pin to unlock even the phone. Nothing to do with email, just the darn phone. So everyone hates it. I use Touchdown which only requires a pin if you go to check email. But it's $20. Anyway, be careful with hacks that bypass security in a workplace. It could be cause for termination.
I love my phone, I've loved ALL my devices... Yes, I use it for work with MS Exchange email (MS Consultant), and yes the pin/password policies are annoying.
But I'm not about to risk my job over some "hassle" of 3 seconds to enter a pin. Aren't our email Administrators able to see we bypassed this or no?
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The mod is quite honestly ridiculous. Whats the point of trying to have security setup and protect possible sensitive information, when you don't want an Admin to enforce security rights.
This 100% defeats the purpose that was set in place by Exchange for good reason's. I sure hope everyone understands the SERIOUS consequences of what could happen by flashing this and possibly leak sensitive data into the wrong hands.
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To be honest, if someone wanted my data or emails a stupid 4 digit pin is not going to stop them. There are many ways in getting a persons email off of there phone without even unlocking it. This seems like it is for those small companies who's admins are security freaks and its really not needed. Granted, I am sure apple would not be happy if an employee used this app or an android phone lol
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It is important to keep sensitive data secure. I think a properly set up pattern lock is as good as a 4 digit PIN. I use lookout to be able to remotely wipe if needed.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Hats off to the dev.
Do I have to remove gmail accounts too, or just the active sync exchange accounts?
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To be honest, if someone wanted my data or emails a stupid 4 digit pin is not going to stop them. There are many ways in getting a persons email off of there phone without even unlocking it. This seems like it is for those small companies who's admins are security freaks and its really not needed. Granted, I am sure apple would not be happy if an employee used this app or an android phone lol
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Let them get in hacking your password/pin, you won't be held responsible. However if you have the phone pin/password disabled and they realize this you will be terminated. They will be able to see that you are bypassing security measures, and you could have lawsuit on your hands as well.
Please dont think that I am bashing the dev, I'm simply trying to let people know that they very well could and most likely lose their job and have possible legal action taken against them for using this. Cellphones are such a volatile thing anyhow, but giving them an easier way in is not a good idea, especially not while breaking company policy.
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Let them get in hacking your password/pin, you won't be held responsible. However if you have the phone pin/password disabled and they realize this you will be terminated. They will be able to see that you are bypassing security measures, and you could have lawsuit on your hands as well.
Please dont think that I am bashing the dev, I'm simply trying to let people know that they very well could and most likely lose their job and have possible legal action taken against them for using this. Cellphones are such a volatile thing anyhow, but giving them an easier way in is not a good idea, especially not while breaking company policy.
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Like I said, they don't even Ned to unlock your phone e to read the emails on of. Google it.
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My son got my first HD2. What I did not know when I installed it the first time before he got it, was the fixation of the phone to the gmail-account I used at that time and only for that purpose. Intuition has its flip side too.
My son has his own gmail account, which I was not aware of, and obviously he wants to have his HD2 running his affairs on his own account (communicate with friends etc.)
Now, he has used the HD2 extensively, installed lots of apps, also some paid ones. Purging my old (installation-) account will reset the whole device to its initial state, all accounts and licences will be lost, if he understands that warning correctly.
Is there a way to change the 'ownership' with as little damage to the contents as possible, like save all contents as a backup, start with a new account identity, and restore all contents? Or will that also inevitably overwrite the new account with the old one too?
One could call the task also a migration of an android installation to a different account. BTW, it's equipped with a 16 GB card which has lots of free space left right now (looking at the backup space needs).
I am sure this has been discussed here before, but I seem to not find the right search words. Any hints, links, advice?
Would a total backup using Titanium be advisable? Or will that restore the present status including the unwanted account again?
Thanks for your help in advance. It doesn't make things simpler that my son and his HD2 are some 1.000 miles from here, studying there. but we have skype and other paths on PCs...
Cheers,
the longkeeler.
You can always use Titanium Backup to back up the apps (the paid ones, too), make a factory reset and let him set his own account and then restore the backup.
But you can never transfer the ownership of app(s) from one account to another. (For example, by using TB backup, he can use the paid apps, but he won't be able to update them, he'd need to buy them from his own account)
I'm sorry, but that is the way Android works. (which is lame)
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Clearing the primary gmail-account and thus resetting the device did not remove just that account, which kind of surprises me. Well, I don't have the HD2 in my hands, and I just hope that my son will have made the backup I advised hin to make and store it where he can reconstruct from.
Cheers,
the longkeeler.
But at least, he would have back what was there before. The nature of the paid apps is static, there are no backups to be expected. And it was not an amount of money that would kill anyone - just throwing it away should be avoided. Now, as posted a few minutes before, he was not successful to remove the undesired account. Are there any protections built in, that follow the great old MS tradition , it's not a bug, it's a feature, if not even industry standard?
it is however possible - to some extent - to "merge" google accounts.
if you do not use your gmail acc (as i understood from your first post) you can transfer quite a bit of contacts/features and stuff to your sons account and the other way round. this way he might be able to keep the paid apps (and updates) and also communicate with his friend on the dame account.
if thats any help...
Is the phone running froyo or gingerbread? If it is on Ginger then try deleting the account from sync and accounts... that's all for froyo u will need root explorer to delete a file located in the data folder.
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From accounts and sync remove the account.. I believe this only works for Ginger ..
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You can also do it by deleting this file With root explorer . Hope this helped.
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Just use your sons email and then go to accounts and sync.turn sync off. That's basically your only hope.
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First: Thanks to all for your replies!
Afaik, it's the gingerbread flavor.
I have the same type of HD2 here for myself but don't want to mess that up too much - I just saw under acc and synch that my account appears there once under mail and then under google.
If I remove either of those - does it only purge the link from my device to gmail resp. all other google-accounts, or does it remove the account as a whole from google's servers? (if so, probably only from the visible surface, but that's a different story...)
I am not sure if my son sees the same image and what he did there.
So again: Does "removing" the account on the smartphone just "divorce" it from google, or does it kill it?
Thanks again for your help!
Cheers,
The Longkeeler
Nieve, thank you so much. I am not sure yet if it will work but it sounds plausible. surprising how close to the surface such an essential database is located - like the rock that merged with the Costa Concordia... So, everybody just can hope that it will become easier in future to change the primary account rights.
A different side-question: What tool did you use to add the hints to the screen shots?
Extended thought, not necessarily useful for my son's problem, but: Would it be possible to cultivate different versions of the accounts.db, renaming them according to the desired application spectrum (like, say, change the "personality" of the phone from business to leisure)?
Reset device completely
With a clean device when the touch android screen comes up...
he signs in with his account. Establishes his acct as primary
then logs in with your acct secondly or later on in order to get access to the paid apps on your account
Only way to xhange primary is a wipe of data. The primary is simply the very first acccount entered after a device reset.
Your a great mom!
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You can also do it by deleting this file With root explorer
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Nieve, thanks. After getting root explorer 2.15 I can see into the innards now too - on my phone here, there is the accounts.db of course, and two more entries, one called accounts.db-wal and the other accounts.db-shm. Look more like folders. What about those?
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Your a great mom!
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Always try to do my best, and I'll ask my wife for her opinion on this . Well, I'm just only the dad...
But your proposal sounds very reasonable and based on practice. If nieve's and your advice can be combined (purging the data base, tnen installing accs from scratch), it would be great.
accounts removed now, but no re-installation yet.
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You can also do it by deleting this file
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(\data\system\accounts.db) deleted - et voilà, after rebooting, no more accounts. So, step one done successfully. So, again, thanks for that!
Now came the next one, re-installing his own gmail account as a primary one. He could open the dialogue - but his entry was refused, 'sorry, username and pw don't match.' Bummer. He tried it several times, took care that the account was not opened anywhere else - no avail so far. The error message could well be misleading.
There must be a missing resp. hidden link.
Update: re-installing the prior "false" primary account worked immediately. So, the error message IS misleading. I guess there will be no other way than to completely re-initiate the whole system and then start with the other identiy. Unfortunately, the HD2 has to travel 2.000 miles for that, but it is the safest way then. My son has neither the experience nor the tools to do that himself there.
If somebody has yet another idea - please don't hesitate to let us know!
The application is call picsin, you can find it in the android market...about his account ask him to make sure his email and password are correct. I have change my accounts many times doing that process. He can maybe try login to his account thru the browser, just to make sure the email and password are right.
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Update: re-installing the prior "false" primary account worked immediately. So, the error message IS misleading.
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Some times, the solution comes as a surprise. Just before my son had started his trial to rearrange the accounts yesterday, he had applied for a new login scheme with google - some double-password story. This, he had not mentioned until today, an hour ago, when he received a mail from google, giving him directions on how to handle logins in a transitional phase.
You guess it: All is well now, he has his own account as the primary one, and sounds much more relaxed than before.
Oh well...
But nevertheless: Your help was absolutely substantial in achieving this, and I hope that the bitdust will settle soon... So thanks again, I can recommend you
Cheers, and a happy rest of this weekend!
The Longkeeler, now also a bit more in weekend mood/mode.
That's good to hear! And a pleasure to help.
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My company has decided to implement some new policies. In order to access the Exchange Server from a cell phone, they want to set up to be an Admin of the phone, force a PIN and auto screen timeout and have access to remote wipe the device.
They also want to force the phone to be encrypted. That last part, I am not cool with. This is my device and I have had issues in the past with an encrypted phone, where it slows things down, and it makes it inconvenient when you want to copy files to and from the device, like pictures, videos, downloads and music... copying from the encrypted device to the PC, the files were unusable.
MY files, not theirs.
So on my Moto RazR HD, I remember rooting the phone and installing a modified .APK for the Exchange client, that let me set up my account, and when I got to the part that it demanded the device to be encrypted, it simply ignored it and tricked the server into thinking that it had already been done.
So my question is, can I root this phone, install a similar .apk, and then unroot the phone(they claim they will check to see if phones are rooted or jailbroken), and then set up my email account?
Anyone think of a way to accomplish this?
I don't need arguments on how I should obey policy and all that, so let's not go there. If it is get my phone encrypted and possible cause problems on a personal device that I paid $600 for, or not having email on it and inconveniencing others when they can't get ahold of me, I will not have email on the device.
But if I can keep it from encrypting, but keep all the other security in place(PIN, timeout and remote wipe), I am fine with that.
Can this be done today? Is there still a modified exchange.apk or whatever, or maybe another email client that is simple, close to the stock on in look and feel, but won't force the encryption policy?
I managed to get two s5's rooted and annoyingly enough, unless I put my sims card in them, neither gmail or the playstore will connect or login via wifi. I only have one sims activated and that is my internet connection which I tether via wifi to my other devices.
Is there a way to work around this? If this is too remedial a question or unwelcome in this thread, I apologize.
I'd like to be able to set up a freshly flashed and rooted phone to accept my gmail account and work with playstore on wifi, sans a sims installed. Do I need to create a gmail account for each and every phone I wish to set up? Will this fix the problem of doing a phone not having a active verizon sims installed? For whatever reason, my playstore access and gmail push are wonky and dubious at best when having the same account being "registered" on multiple devices and I'm not sure if it started recently when gmail for some reason started sending notices to said email account of when another device logged in.
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I managed to get two s5's rooted and annoyingly enough, unless I put my sims card in them, neither gmail or the playstore will connect or login via wifi. I only have one sims activated and that is my internet connection which I tether via wifi to my other devices.
Is there a way to work around this? If this is too remedial a question or unwelcome in this thread, I apologize.
I'd like to be able to set up a freshly flashed and rooted phone to accept my gmail account and work with playstore on wifi, sans a sims installed. Do I need to create a gmail account for each and every phone I wish to set up? Will this fix the problem of doing a phone not having a active verizon sims installed? For whatever reason, my playstore access and gmail push are wonky and dubious at best when having the same account being "registered" on multiple devices and I'm not sure if it started recently when gmail for some reason started sending notices to said email account of when another device logged in.
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I too manage two S5's, rooted and I have no problems. The one without a Sim works great off of WiFi. Playstore works fine logged into the same account.
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I too manage two S5's, rooted and I have no problems. The one without a Sim works great off of WiFi. Playstore works fine logged into the same account.
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That's perversely encouraging and assures me I haven't lost my mind expecting something impossible that I thought I knew to be true. Neither of my S5's, my N4 or Z2 will reliably hook up with gmail and the play store both. This one S5 will not allow me set up a new gmail account on the device and gmail has stopped pushing to my DD S4. Remove account, clear cache, date force stop all google processes, reboot and same. Lots posted about it and I know google hasn't banned me as it is working on some devices. Besides, I behave.
Now if I can get supersu to install from an APK with a wifi connection, I can at least proceed.
Congrats on yours and thanks for confirming it should work.
Well I popped the sims card in the one, which had been flashed back to ngc from oa8 (my other one hadn't ever tried to OTA update from nk2) and playstore and gmail cooperated fine. However, SDM started downloading an update, which I'll assume is OTA to OA8 or OC4. The first time before I pulled the battery I got playstore hooked up and forced SDM to stop. Pulled the battery and SDM continued where it left off and I managed supersu and busybox. Deferred the install of the update and wonder how critical it is that the downloaded file be removed prior to safestrapping it and then OC4 rooting it with the tether addon.
The other S5 on nk2 hasn't tried to OTA update so it must be down on the list despite being readily activate-able with clean IMEI and no issues.
I wish I could figure out why google services such as gmail and playstore are being contumacious on my devices.
I had that same problem of an update trying to get on my phone before I could get it rooted ( an s4) and it messed my phone up bad. I had to finally take the update to get it working again
I would put all the files, towelroot, busybox, SuperSU, safestrap, and titanium backup on my ext SD card. Flash back to stock NGC. Don't use your Sim or log onto WiFi. Root your phone and freeze SDM.
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I had that same problem of an update trying to get on my phone before I could get it rooted ( an s4) and it messed my phone up bad. I had to finally take the update to get it working again
I would put all the files, towelroot, busybox, SuperSU, safestrap, and titanium backup on my ext SD card. Flash back to stock NGC. Don't use your Sim or log onto WiFi. Root your phone and freeze SDM.
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It never attempted the OTA until the active sim card was in place. I used it on wifi many times including several times today and had even worked fine with the playstore/gmail on wifi up until recently when gmail stopped pushing to my dd period, and every other device in which my DD's sims card wasn't inserted.
The OTA update file has been downloaded, but not installed. I deferred it to 5 am and didn't check automatic. I am assuming I can defer it again although I'd somehow feel better removing it and freezing SDM until I decide if I am going to OC4 it or do a custom rom. Nice would be native call recording, native tethering and being able to overclock it a bit. A lightweight lollipop and xposed would probably do the trick other than maybe overclocking. Too much reading for one day.
It is currently on NCG, rooted, supersu, busy box, and safestrap all installed. I think I'll install a root file explorer try to find it and also do Titanium Backup while I'm at it. I wish I knew where it was and if removing it was as simple as just deleting a file.
Any ideas? I have two in the same state and think I'm going to make one of them my DD since getting root on a verizon N4 doesn't look likely anytime soon. The N4 is kinda big anyhow. I have to have tethering and would like it easier than foxfi since I feel obligated to use as much of my unlimited data as possible. I think I read the native call recording can be enable from the dialer at the cost of the "add call" which I don't use or even know what it is.
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It never attempted the OTA until the active sim card was in place. I used it on wifi many times including several times today and had even worked fine with the playstore/gmail on wifi.
The OTA update file has been downloaded, but not installed. I deferred it to 5 am and didn't check automatic. I am assuming I can defer it again although I'd somehow feel better removing it and freezing SDM until I decide if I am going to OC4 it or do a custom rom. Nice would be native call recording, native tethering and being able to overclock it a bit. A lightweight lollipop and xposed would probably do the trick other than maybe overclocking. Too much reading for one day.
It is currently on NCG, rooted, supersu, busy box, and safestrap all installed. I think I'll install a root file explorer try to find it and also do Titanium Backup while I'm at it. I wish I knew where it was and if removing it was as simple as just deleting a file.
Any ideas? I have two in the same state and think I'm going to make one of them my DD since getting root on a verizon N4 doesn't look likely anytime soon. The N4 is kinda big anyhow. I have to have tethering and would like it easier than foxfi since I feel obligated to use as much of my unlimited data as possible. I think I read the native call recording can be enable from the dialer at the cost of the "add call" which I don't use or even know what it is.
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Try your root/cache folder to find your update.
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Try your root/cache folder to find your update.
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Getting on that this morning. I wish I could figure out why it keeps downloading and installing playstore on wifi and still won't work until I put my sims in it. I've gone through everything short of uninstalling all of google services and reinstalling them on several devices. My wifi only z2 tab acting stupid with google would be a vexation if I let things like that bother me.
Thanks and I'm popping the sims in it and going to try cleaning it up and locking down SDM.
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Installed the root browser and the update zip was in cache.
Deleted.
Went to system with the display icon.
App then deleted the SDM apk and the SDM odex file.
Hopefully that will keep it from pulling that stunt again until I decide what to do with it.
Guess I should do it with the other one and figure out why that same sims won't make gmail push to my DD or the play station work in it or why my non-pc wifi only devices won't work except through their browsers. I think there must be some conflict with which devices the playstore is recognizing as being associated with my accounts.
Must be something in my google settings and what a conglomerated octopus google services has turned into.
Thanks again. Feel free to tell me if my down and dirty bandaid overlooked anything!
Good luck to you!
The only thing weird about my google account and gmail is that the email address I login with is not the one that shows up under "accounts" and the login email address is not a gmail address. Somehow the two different email accounts are linked together.
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Good luck to you!
The only thing weird about my google account and gmail is that the email address I login with is not the one that shows up under "accounts" and the login email address is not a gmail address. Somehow the two different email accounts are linked together.
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Yeah, I wish I know what Google was up to exactly. Acknowledging the 'this device logged into your account' and verifying that it's me, seems like should seamlessly eliminate issues. That doesn't appear to be the case and I think my problems started when I somehow agreed for them to send me such notices relative to the gmail account I use on my other devices, not both gmail accounts associated with my DD.
On my DD, I have two gmail accounts that I've had for ages. They have always worked fine on my android devices. Recently that changed and I'm not sure why but I know when. On my other many devices, I've just registered one of my gmail accounts to them, the same one each time, and they too all seemed to quit working at the same time, initially offering no problems to working on wifi.
However, I am curious as to your thoughts on Ricks Rom as I looked over the specs and it seems to be about what I'm looking for although for some unqualified reason, my mind has been thinking I wanted a rom based on lollipop. It says it has native or hacked hotspot and native call recording. Can it be overclocked? I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any of the gimmicky apps that come preinstalled on the phones and find most all of them, especially the Samsung redundant ones, to be annoying and intrusive.
Do you know for sure if Xposed will or will not work with it?
How many security certificates come system installed on Ricks Rom? My guess is that something like 200 come stock and I don't like the looks of many of them and wish I knew how come and why.
Thank you, I appreciate your sharing information. It is nice to gather up pieces to puzzles and hopefully being able to solve them. I'll get this gmail playstore thing fixed if it means I have to go fishing long enough to forget about it! Maybe somebody else finding themselves in a similar situation may find some of our particular details useful to fixing these oddities.
I'm running RicksRom (v19 right now) on my DD and have been using it since I first got my phone a year and a half ago. I don't have Xposed but don't know why it wouldn't work. This is a pretty lean ROM but it does have quite a few security certificates. I'm running MOAR on my spare phone that is currently on lollipop. I have this phone as a spare to play with but wouldn't run lollipop. Too quirky and I like the theming capabilities of KitKat better.
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I'm running RicksRom (v19 right now) on my DD and have been using it since I first got my phone a year and a half ago. I don't have Xposed but don't know why it wouldn't work. This is a pretty lean ROM but it does have quite a few security certificates. I'm running MOAR on my spare phone that is currently on lollipop. I have this phone as a spare to play with but wouldn't run lollipop. Too quirky and I like the theming capabilities of KitKat better.
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Thanks, lean sounds fine and overclocking a bit would be even nicer! I'll dig through that thread a bit more and see if anyone has verified Xposed to work with it conflict free and if it can be clocked.
I went through my gmail account settings on my PC and under Recent Activity/Notifications and Alerts... there is no way to uncheck any alerts that have been checked. I am pretty sure my issues started when I recently checked "Email" for Suspicious Attempt to Access Account. The password change email notice has been checked since forever.
Going to the Playstore on my PC, it lists all of my devices, past and present although it has dropped some that haven't accessed for a while, and now makes me think I need to give them all nicknames since I have multiples of the same Model Number devices. However, it lists all current and recent as well reconciles. What it won't do from my PC browser, is anything but sit there doing nothing when I hit install for a selected app. It will not give a pop down menu to select which device and the playstore account settings are very minimal. I will see if nicknaming them helps since there are multiple devices with the same model number. This type of online PC install used to work fine and would prompt with a pop down menu to select which device, regardless if they were online via the sims or wifi, and then download and install if the selected device was online. I don't recall ever doing that when I had multiple devices having access with the same model number.
Another interesting thing is that Verizon must have access to the playstore and/or gmail device list. I know this from speaking with a very helpful tech rep this week about my data connection speed on my DD. She verified seeing devices on this account even if they hadn't ever had my sims card installed. Merely been online with my one email account registered and playstore accessed from it. That kinda surprised me. I wonder if there is some Google Services/Verizon conflict that may be causing this.