I would like to open the device, because I wanna try to replace the SSD with a bigger one or with a HDD, maybe 500GB.
Any Idea how to open the case?
Well, the external max is 32G, so I'd guess the internal max is also 32G.
The tablet won't give enought power to run a HDD, it might run sn ssd, but there's no room for one.
ArtaxXP said:
I would like to open the device, because I wanna try to replace the SSD with a bigger one or with a HDD, maybe 500GB.
Any Idea how to open the case?
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There is a video on youtube about how you remove the back piece of the A500.
Sorry I dont have the link.
Please let me know if you are successfull!
ArtaxXP said:
I would like to open the device, because I wanna try to replace the SSD with a bigger one or with a HDD, maybe 500GB.
Any Idea how to open the case?
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Not user upgradeable, more than likely the 32gb or 16gb of NAND is soldered onto the board. I have not seen a tear down of the A500 but all the other tablets I have seen have soldered chips. So it is not a SSD but soldered down flash chips. I had the Viewsonic Gtab which has 16gb of NAND and someone soldered 16gb more on one of them and that worked.
Ok, first of all the link to the video how to open the case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIvbWo_p3KI
Thx to sanaell !
and tadaa...I did it...not that perfect as I expected, because 2 of the 10 plastic clambs broke (not that bad, but be careful!)...but i got it open...and...like nrage23 said, it's a soldered down flash chip. but I forgot to check if its a normal ddr3 notebook ram. if so, it should be possible to replace it with a 4gb chip...anyone who wants to open the device again and ckeck that? =D
ArtaxXP said:
Ok, first of all the link to the video how to open the case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIvbWo_p3KI
Thx to sanaell !
and tadaa...I did it...not that perfect as I expected, because 2 of the 10 plastic clambs broke (not that bad, but be careful!)...but i got it open...and...like nrage23 said, it's a soldered down flash chip. but I forgot to check if its a normal ddr3 notebook ram. if so, it should be possible to replace it with a 4gb chip...anyone who wants to open the device again and ckeck that? =D
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I don't think tegra or honeycomb would support that much ram, though it would be awesome!
Well at least 2 GiG ram would awesome!
Maybe the OS wouldn't even read the 2 gig and a chip other than the original would cause too much power drain.
This tablet does have an internal PCIe slot but the connector isn't soldered. If you have the guts, you could add an extra pcie SSD, again, at battery life cost.
I know it's been several months since the last post. Has anyone seen any progress with adding an ssd or anything else to the pcie in these tablets?
Fluffbutt said:
Well, the external max is 32G, so I'd guess the internal max is also 32G.
The tablet won't give enought power to run a HDD, it might run sn ssd, but there's no room for one.
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Lol wut?
I'm running am external 500gb hdd and I have a 64gb microsd inside. It works perfectly.
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skatin707 said:
Lol wut?
I'm running am external 500gb hdd and I have a 64gb microsd inside. It works perfectly.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium
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They weren't talking about an external USB hdd....
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
wolverine423 said:
They weren't talking about an external USB hdd....
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
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I know that. I was commenting on the fact that he said it couldn't power an HDD (he didn't specify internal or external, and obviously we can't fit an HDD internally). Not only that, he said external max was 32gb.
Most of the storage components in devices like phones and tablets are soldered right onto the motherboard. If you grab an external 500GB HDD like many of the users here, you can have almost infinite storage. Can't do much for memory unless you set up swap.
Athrun88 said:
Most of the storage components in devices like phones and tablets are soldered right onto the motherboard. If you grab an external 500GB HDD like many of the users here, you can have almost infinite storage. Can't do much for memory unless you set up swap.
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Yup, and external HDDs are cheaper than micro SD cards by a long shot. Added bulk, sure, but the cost is worth it.
It would be cool to get a good sized SSD in there though, kind of like that acer dual screen tablet/computer.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-ICONIA-6120-14-inch-Tablet/dp/B004P0WLEY
Soldering a working PCI-E on A500 would be a terribly useful project, but to do that we'd need proper schematics. Someone with an A501 should be able to photograph the motherboard, but it would have to be on both sides of it, ie. it would require removing the whole board -- not something people usually wish to do to a working tablet. Also the photos would have to be clear enough for us to see all the small details, including the small text on capacitors. Then just compare that to the A500 to see all the differences and draw up schematics from that.
The hard part is the soldering itself though, too much heat and you burn the parts, too little heat and you clump the tin and so on.
As for replacing the NAND and/or mDDR3: there is no technical reason why it couldn't be done. Just make sure the power draw and voltage is the same, and for the mDDR3 the speeds, too. The problem is again soldering (industry uses soldering bots for this, the parts are very easy to burn), and in the case of a new NAND you'd have to duplicate the contents of the old one and adjust the partitions accordingly.
As for the truth: if you do not have several years worth of soldering experience do not bother. I don't want to see people here on forums crying about how their tablets are ruined because they failed with soldering.
your thought is greet!waiting someone makes this happen!
Sent from my A500 using XDA
I've got links for detailed pics and video of dissasemly but cannot post them yet... pm me if you want them....
here's the service manual.
http://db.tt/Uu08rvHe
Somairotevoli said:
here's the service manual.
http://db.tt/Uu08rvHe
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Useful in general, yes, but does not help here: it does not have component diagrams.
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pumpastic said:
I've got links for detailed pics and video of dissasemly but cannot post them yet... pm me if you want them....
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Plain disassembly isn't enough, the pics would have to be sharp and detailed enough to see every small-scale detail. Video is not useful for that at all. Sorry.
Other than the obvious problems with soldering, it should be possible to use up to 4gib of physical RAM (ARMv7 is 32bit) and a lot of HDD space (2^32 adresses times 4kib clusters, say)... would be cool if we could make it work, but then again... even with lots of experience in soldering etc. you'd probably break more than a few devices before eventually having a working one. If you had access to soldering robots you'd probably have other ways to go anyway... As for HDD/SDD, you can just use an external one or use a NAS (network storage)... That's a lot easier and safer.
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I am having thoughts of installing a ssd drive inside htc shift. Is this possible? Has anybody tried it or dissasembly htc shift?
Thanks,
Lefteris
i dont know that im brave enuf to kill my warranty. If the drives are the same size and same power consumption and have the same mounting points then it should be easy.
That's a lot of ifs...
And if you look in Vista at the Experience index, you can see that the HD is fast enough
Okay, SSD is always a lot faster.
I forgot the big if,
IF you can afford one the proper size
If someone has very large juevos they could crack their shift open and take some pictures!!!
doh, daniel u should of done that before replacing it!!!!!
There are internal pics of the Shift on the FCC site.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...omFrame=N&application_id=542917&fcc_id='NM8CL'
good to know we can upgrade the harddrive very easily then
and the ram oh goody 2 gig chip
Those are very easy upgrades, does anyone know the part #s for the existing items?
We need a ghost of a prestine box, make sure one of the senior guys when they get their box to ghost is right away.
Well one thing for sure an extra gigabyte of ram would help.
But is does seems we need a very specific module to replace the RAM.
Any ideas where to buy such a module?
According to the FCC pictures the ram module is:
Qimonda
qty 8 of HYB18T1G160BFL-5 / 3VV08956 (also has 0724 and B on the chips)
on a double sided chip
http://www.qimonda.com/mobile-ram/ddr-18/index.html
rpawly said:
According to the FCC pictures the ram module is:
Qimonda
qty 8 of HYB18T1G160BFL-5 / 3VV08956 (also has 0724 and B on the chips)
on a double sided chip
http://www.qimonda.com/mobile-ram/ddr-18/index.html
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I had some trouble opening the link but now it seems to work.
The problems I see is that Qimonda is a producer of RAM chips, not a retailer/seller of modules.
And second they only list 1GB sets.
Third, where can we get our paws on a 2GB module?
Ouch,
I just located some 2GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM at 500 USD, the 1GB chips are 180 USD.
also we have to find out if the vista bios supports 2 GB DDR microDIMM, the bios they are running is very weak, i suppose we would have to get a new one of those too :/
rpawly said:
Ouch,
I just located some 2GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM at 500 USD, the 1GB chips are 180 USD.
also we have to find out if the vista bios supports 2 GB DDR microDIMM, the bios they are running is very weak, i suppose we would have to get a new one of those too :/
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Can you tell me where you found that 2GB DDR2 MicroDimm?
Ok that is a lot about RAM but how about a SSD?
I believe the BIOS should support 2 gigs. I asked the folks at HTC about this and they didn't indicate any issues beyond the challenge of opening the device and the fact that it does void the warranty.
http://www.amentio.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2010473;c:36376;r:prisjakt
Please take a look at the specs and tell me if it would fit. I am new to this so wanna be sure.
premier69 said:
http://www.amentio.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2010473%3bc:36376%3brrisjakt
Please take a look at the specs and tell me if it would fit. I am new to this so wanna be sure.
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The MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF1 is an 8mm drive (height), so no, it won't fit. You want the MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF2 which is 5mm in height.
Google told me that
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208242&page=303&highlight=2510p
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomy B.
I did some research and find out that there is two versions of Mtron Mobi 3000 1.8" 32GB with ZIF.
Does anyone know is there any difference between MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF1 and MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF2, except thickness (first one is 8 mm, second 5 mm) and price.
Is there some reason for MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF2 to be cheap?
If someone can recommend any 2.5" SSD with 44-pin IDE or 1.8" with ZIF just let me know. 32 GB is just enough. I had Samsung 1.8" with 50-pin IDE, but it was 16 GB (around 15GB actually), so 50-pin IDE will work too.
The only difference betweem the ZIF1 and ZIF2 is the height. The ZIF2 (5mm) is being produced for regular orders by Mtron, so you will find this easily available (http://rocketdisk.com/index.php?cPath=15) but the ZIF1 (8mm) is only being produced for OEMs and other special situations.
There is no reason for it to be so cheap, other than good value
The performance is really awesome & as you have probably seen on notebookreview.com there are lots of happy customers!! ---- end quote
rpawly said:
i dont know that im brave enuf to kill my warranty. If the drives are the same size and same power consumption and have the same mounting points then it should be easy.
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背面有8颗螺丝,键盘下面有一颗螺丝 ,一共9颗 在电池接口处出力压下,键盘会跳出来,看我的拆机图http://picasaweb.google.com/netcnn/Netck
btw: I buyed yesterday a MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF2 within Ebay. We will see how fast it is. But I think this is the fastest ATA-7 1,8" HDD on Market. Mtron announced a 64 and 128GB Version as well a few months ago, but I never see anything like this.. :-(
With all of the software hacking in progress I was wondering if anyone has plans to upgrade the internal HDD of the Shift.
I presume there are may other Shift users which think that with an internal HDD of only 40GB, of which is even less usable, the potential is limited.
It would be great, but costly, to upgrade to a 64GB SSD but even a "normal" 120GB hdd such as in the OQO E2 would be a great upgrade.
That way we could put music, movies and more on it without kicking the limits of the disk every time. (Windows needs a lot of empty GB's to properly function so don't even think about filling it to the brim with whatever you think of )
Did someone already make the jump?
Or are there any tips/tricks for doing so?
I suppose I could just get a normal laptop hdd of 2.5" (or maybe 1.8") and replace the internal one.
Tr1gg3R said:
With all of the software hacking in progress I was wondering if anyone has plans to upgrade the internal HDD of the Shift.
I presume there are may other Shift users which think that with an internal HDD of only 40GB, of which is even less usable, the potential is limited.
It would be great, but costly, to upgrade to a 64GB SSD but even a "normal" 120GB hdd such as in the OQO E2 would be a great upgrade.
That way we could put music, movies and more on it without kicking the limits of the disk every time. (Windows needs a lot of empty GB's to properly function so don't even think about filling it to the brim with whatever you think of )
Did someone already make the jump?
Or are there any tips/tricks for doing so?
I suppose I could just get a normal laptop hdd of 2.5" (or maybe 1.8") and replace the internal one.
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I thought it was an 1.8" and yes, i THINK you can replace it.
I don't know the exact size of it and if it fits.
I just checked with my Shift and the disk that is factory installed is a: Toshiba MK4009GAL
The Toshiba MK4009GAL is a 1.8" HDD witjh an ATA100 interface.
Specifications:
Code:
MK4009GAL
Features
Part number HDD1682
Formatted capacity 40,000 MByte
Form factor 1.8 inch
# Interface type 1.8'' ATA (LIF)
# Supported interface standards ATA-3
# ATA-4
# ATA-5
# ATA-6
# Head/actuator technology "Ramp-Load" Technology
# GMR read head
# PMR write head
Shock detection Shock sensor circuit
S.M.A.R.T. The SMART command set is supported.
More details
I think it'll go hunting for a new 1.8" ATA100 HDD.
That is, as soon as I find a way to open the case without voiding my warranty
For the UK ppl here
http://computers.pricegrabber.co.uk/hard-drives/m/44560298/
Toshiba MK1011GAH - Hard drive - 100 GB - internal - 1.8'' - ATA-100 - 4200 rpm - buffer: 8 MB
EDIT:
I saw you are Dutch too, look at this site:
http://www.alternate.nl/html/shop/productListing4C.html?cat1=7&cat2=222&cat3=0&tgid=130&treeName=HARDWARE&Level1=Harddisks&Level2=IDE&Level3=1%2C8+inch&
Tr1gg3R said:
I just checked with my Shift and the disk that is factory installed is a: Toshiba MK4009GAL
The Toshiba MK4009GAL is a 1.8" HDD witjh an ATA100 interface.
Specifications:
Code:
MK4009GAL
Features
Part number HDD1682
Formatted capacity 40,000 MByte
Form factor 1.8 inch
# Interface type 1.8'' ATA (LIF)
# Supported interface standards ATA-3
# ATA-4
# ATA-5
# ATA-6
# Head/actuator technology "Ramp-Load" Technology
# GMR read head
# PMR write head
Shock detection Shock sensor circuit
S.M.A.R.T. The SMART command set is supported.
More details
I think it'll go hunting for a new 1.8" ATA100 HDD.
That is, as soon as I find a way to open the case without voiding my warranty
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Oh sweet, a 100GB 1.8Inch ATA100 disk.
The price is quite acceptable too, however it would be nice to find a 120GB model
Now I just need to break open my Shift......
Edit: Centralpoint.nl seems to be selling the Toshiba MK1011GAH too. (135Euro)
That is good to know
though €180,- is not cheap...
What about SDD?
Pfeffa-rah said:
That is good to know
though €180,- is not cheap...
What about SDD?
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That's more expensive for less space
Guess we'll have to wait untill it becomes cheaper
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Or we could use 64GB SD card
well i would look at the specifications of those disks ( one is GAL connector and the other is GAH connector)
and also the hight of the drive is diffrent so might not even if you figure out the connector isue it might not fit
Have you conssidered a Western Digital Passport usb powered slim sleek and up to 250GB i have one for use with my asus eee and i love it..
By the way check out
http://forum.eeeuser.com/
they have released a lot of great software for there 7" device that would be great for the shift like a hot key command thing for moving dialouge boxes that dont fit on the screen see below and also a resoloution hack to upscale it to 1280*1024 despite native resoloution only being 800*400 (this is driver based but a similar driver may be used for the shift) would be worth looking into and maybe sharing on here.. By the way i did not create this programe but have used on my eee i dont have a shift but as it runs vista it should work fine this is the thing for moving dialougue boxes enjoy..
But how safe is it to take the proper screwdriver and open the Shift?
Will it be as simple like removing the bottom plate, removing the disk, inserting a new one and putting back the bottom plate?
Have anyone actually seen disassemble instructions/pictures or whatsoever?
JayRayMee.NL said:
But how safe is it to take the proper screwdriver and open the Shift?
Will it be as simple like removing the bottom plate, removing the disk, inserting a new one and putting back the bottom plate?
Have anyone actually seen disassemble instructions/pictures or whatsoever?
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Just do a search on this forum and you will find some pictures of the unit disassembled. There you can see how much effort it takes....
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224&last=5479384
naked shift.
pitt1983 said:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224&last=5479384
naked shift.
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nice pics. u can see the hd real good.
Pawel062 said:
nice pics. u can see the hd real good.
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i think that this guy is a very crazy guy! unmount like that the shift. but in the pics you can see hdd, ram. how strange is hardware in that shift.
i think that the priority is to upgrade the ram. 1 only gb is very poor.. also hdd is little but the ram...
news about the production of 2gb ram?
Open Htc Shift
Hello.
Someone can help me and to indicate myself since I can extract the keyboard of the htc shift.
I want to change the hard disk and there is a central screw to which I do not have access.
Thank you very much.
fgarciav said:
Hello.
Someone can help me and to indicate myself since I can extract the keyboard of the htc shift.
I want to change the hard disk and there is a central screw to which I do not have access.
Thank you very much.
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ehm you are disassembling the shift?
In order to reach two screws, it seems that you need to remove the two rubber feet covering them. How well will that go without damaging stuff and more important: will you be able to put them back on in a way that they will stay there?
Tr1gg3R said:
Edit: Centralpoint.nl seems to be selling the Toshiba MK1011GAH too. (135Euro)
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This one is 8mm in height.
The original disk in the Shift is 5mm.
Now the question is: will this 0.3mm difference matter or will it just not fit?
If anyone is interested in the translation of that website, let me know.
The difference between 5 and 8 mm is 3 mm, not 0,3 mm. And inside the Shift 3 mm difference is a lot!! I'm affraid this will definitely not fit...
I have come across this link, someone has open up Shift completely, it's in chinese so i will summarize his finding, it seems like there is hope on SSD upgrade, space is enough, 1.8 inch hard drive size. RAM upgrade seems to be possible until the 2G ram is in production. He mentions the sliding mechanism can be improve if open up the Shift, but he didn't mention how.
Let me know if you want more info about that post, and go ahead and check out the photo at this link :
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224&last=5479384
it could be possible to desolder the ram chips and replace them with higher capacity ones. I believe that the shift can take 2gb of ram without any other modifications. The problem is finding those chips and a service center able to perform such tasks.
lol where is olipro..... he loves to do these kinds of things
I have taken my shift apart, and there isn't more space for the drive than the one that is mounted, so only the 1,8" 5mm low profile drives will fit, as far as I know the biggest is 40GB atm.
I can't see what is wrong with the connector for the ram it's a standard microdimm connector for ulv devices as you can se here Kingston makes them !! and my source tells me that a 2GB module is in preproduction.
wu5262 said:
I have come across this link, someone has open up Shift completely, it's in chinese so i will summarize his finding, it seems like there is hope on SSD upgrade, space is enough, 1.8 inch hard drive size. RAM upgrade seems not possible seems it uses a strange pin. He mentions the sliding mechanism can be improve if open up the Shift, but he didn't mention how.
Let me know if you want more info about that post, and go ahead and check out the photo at this link :
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224&last=5479384
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Wu5262 dont suppose he acknowledges that indeed there is a GPS aerial in place?
After i opened up my shift i can confirm the GPS antenna is there !!
pusler said:
After i opened up my shift i can confirm the GPS antenna is there !!
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Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat! oh but hold on which market was your shift for?
It's for Europe !!
pusler said:
I have taken my shift apart, and there isn't more space for the drive than the one that is mounted, so only the 1,8" 5mm low profile drives will fit, as far as I know the biggest is 40GB atm.
I can't see what is wrong with the connector for the ram it's a standard microdimm connector for ulv devices as you can se here Kingston makes them !! and my source tells me that a 2GB module is in preproduction.
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I had a look into this and seems like you are right, i have now correct the post.
Thanks
pusler said:
I have taken my shift apart, and there isn't more space for the drive than the one that is mounted, so only the 1,8" 5mm low profile drives will fit, as far as I know the biggest is 40GB atm.
I can't see what is wrong with the connector for the ram it's a standard microdimm connector for ulv devices as you can se here Kingston makes them !! and my source tells me that a 2GB module is in preproduction.
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Can't wait for 2 GB ram on this device bet it would make a good bit of difference but I think the biggest difference would be seen with an SSD.
From the hard drive model in the picture here is the link to the drive:
http://www.toshibastorage.com/main....inchHardDiskDrives/MK4009GAL/MK4009GALSupport
It does confirm it is a 40gb 5mm high drive with a 90mm side connector and yes it looks like for toshiba at least 40gb is the biggest for 5mm height. Does anyone know of an SSD that is the right size and connector?
PDF of the drive specs
http://www.toshibastorage.com/techdocs/MK4009GALTechnicalNotes-RevA.pdf
Do you know If gps will be accesible from vista side? I ve fallen in love with sygic pc version. Winmo version is nice but we know we havent 3d drivers for ati hardware. Pc version is running very smoothly in vista. It looks a video game...........
So, the Toshy drive is 5mm x 54mm x 71mm...any reason why this wouldn't work?
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
or this
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/ssd/pdf/18_datasheet.pdf
I'm guessing it'll cost a pretty penny (or pound, lira, euro, etc.) to get 64GB SSD running on the Shift, but man....
landshark said:
So, the Toshy drive is 5mm x 54mm x 71mm...any reason why this wouldn't work?
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
or this
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/ssd/pdf/18_datasheet.pdf
I'm guessing it'll cost a pretty penny (or pound, lira, euro, etc.) to get 64GB SSD running on the Shift, but man....
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Now that looks nice can't see anywhere who sell it though
landshark said:
So, the Toshy drive is 5mm x 54mm x 71mm...any reason why this wouldn't work?
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
or this
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/ssd/pdf/18_datasheet.pdf
I'm guessing it'll cost a pretty penny (or pound, lira, euro, etc.) to get 64GB SSD running on the Shift, but man....
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Maybe the reason is the connector doesn't fit?
I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard that the Shift has a special connector..
danielherrero said:
Do you know If gps will be accesible from vista side? I ve fallen in love with sygic pc version. Winmo version is nice but we know we havent 3d drivers for ati hardware. Pc version is running very smoothly in vista. It looks a video game...........
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When the guys get the GPS to work, it SHOULD be possible to share it through the USB tool connection so that VISTA can use it.
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah
HDD
The Dell Tablet uses a ribbon type drive. Their is a diffrent connector but anyone is willing to adventure I bet you can take the hard drive side of the ribbon cable off and swap them.
sandrobber said:
The Dell Tablet uses a ribbon type drive. Their is a diffrent connector but anyone is willing to adventure I bet you can take the hard drive side of the ribbon cable off and swap them.
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That's what I've done with the 64GB SSD from my Dell XT Tablet.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403626
here is the type of the drive and the specification.
Interesting News
Has anyone approached HTC about creating an official RAM upgrade that does not void warranty?
Could maybe HTC authorize certain companies in different regions of the world to perform the upgrade.
For example, PPC Techs does iPaq memory upgrades, not with HP's blessing, but they have shown expertise.
The reason I suggest having HTC bless this type of upgrade is 2 fold:
they have the resources to properly test and create a aftermarket kit
they may be shamed into doing something with some sort of subsidized cost to Shift owners since clearly having the combination of processor, memory and OS can never work efficinently since Vista was designed for higher processing power and more memory
This is just a suggestion, these devices can not cost $1000 to produce, HTC must have some serious profit in these puppies.
A side note on the SSD, based on my readings, the SSD drives use more battery power.
If there were to do any other updates, I would suggest making SD slot accessible to Snapview and enable Wifi on Snapview, maybe have an official liberation ROM as well for Snapview.
The additional memory on Vista side and better battery life (like Mugen bigger batteries for Shift) will make Shift almost perfect!!!
Dave32
I think the downfall of this device is the crappy CPU and VISTA...
even video encoding is crap
on my UX, I can watch Bluray rips in highest qualities, the Shift cant even handle DIVX well...
Backing up then Upgrading ... !!
Hello Guys
I have the HTC Shift 9500 European model with SIM FREE.
I know nothing about backup... !! What is the best way to backup the entire HardDrive with its Hidden partition ??
In addition, Has anyone succeed to upgrade the memory from 1GB to be 2GB or even 4 GB ??
Another question... Is there any successful HardDrive to SSD Drive upgrade ??
Kindly specify me the model numbers .. and from where to buy ...
Please reply as soon as possible...
Regards
Luis
Ok, so we all know the internal memory is way to limited for the amount of apps most people will have on the market. So, I have a crazy idea of finding a tech shop that can do the work, and have them replace the onboard memory chip with a larger one. I am fairly, though not 100%, sure that the OS can handle the larger amount of ram.
What do you guys think, would it be a possibility?
Technogen said:
Ok, so we all know the internal memory is way to limited for the amount of apps most people will have on the market. So, I have a crazy idea of finding a tech shop that can do the work, and have them replace the onboard memory chip with a larger one. I am fairly, though not 100%, sure that the OS can handle the larger amount of ram.
What do you guys think, would it be a possibility?
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First off, I don't see why you'd want more RAM, I've never seen any app crash cause the phone ran out of RAM, so I'm guessing you're talking about the built in flash storage. Secondly, I'm fairly sure they solder everything onto the motherboard so unless you're looking to do some elite hacking and happen to have a virtually identically sized but larger capacity flash ROM unit lying around, I wouldn't suggest it.
We aren't called HACKERZ for nothing.
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First off, I don't see why you'd want more RAM, I've never seen any app crash cause the phone ran out of RAM, so I'm guessing you're talking about the built in flash storage. Secondly, I'm fairly sure they solder everything onto the motherboard so unless you're looking to do some elite hacking and happen to have a virtually identically sized but larger capacity flash ROM unit lying around, I wouldn't suggest it.
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I believe you mis-understood him.
He meant physical storage.
The apps take up space when you have many of them.
And as you may know, there is a limit to how much space is available since the applications are not stored on the Mem. Card but rather internal memory.
He wants to know if there is a way we can increase the internal storage memory size.
Hope I explained it well.
There have been people that have upgraded the soldered SSD drives on the EEE laptops with larger chips, but the problem becomes the controller. It must be programmed, and unless you have access to the company that sells the controller chip you will have a very hard time flashing it. The ones that have upgraded them all had inside help with flashing the controller. I dont know how much of this would cross over to phone, but it definatly isnt as easy as just replacing the chip- and even that requires a shop capable of reflow work
If you think in terms of computers, your not just replacing the stick of memory, your replacing just the chips ON the stick of memory, and then flashing the controller to be able to address it.
I upgraded the RAM in my PALM a few years ago from 4 to 8 meg.
What a nightmare.
Yeah, it seems easier to install apps to the SD card.
It's exactly what's being said here. It isn't that it can't be done, but it isn't just as easy as replacing the onboard RAM module.
In most cases, it is directly soldered to the MOBO, so, you've got to have someone remove the old RAM module, hopefully not destroying anything else in the process, and then run the risk of the system not booting because the controller for the RAM module doesn't recognize the new chip.
It is a complicated process, to say the least, and it COULD be done....but I wouldn't recommend it.
I had the HTC XV6800 and a lot was discussed about upgrading the memory. That was 2 years ago and nothing has happened. With that said I'm sure it is possible, but you would need a lot of resources and it probably isnt worth it. If you need more space you can always move your apps to the sd card. It works quite well and is available today.
I had a Dell Axim x51v upgraded to 128MB RAM. A Friend of mine had a Universal with 128MB too. Not every device could be upgraded though. Some of the devices have empty place on the board where somebody can just soldier a new compatible chip. For some there is empty place, but the existing chips could be exchanged for bigger ones.
But it is possible and had been done for various HTC devices.
The storage is big enaugh and Apps-to-SD is a matter of seconds. Bigger RAM would be invaluable. Now apps keep unloading themselves all the time when you start a new app, which more or less beats the point of having multitasking OS. I would like to be able to start Music, Browser, Skype and AndNav without having to use the slow swap-to-SD.
Is it possible to upgrade the internal memory?
I have a vzw tab with 2GB of internal memory, but would love to upgrade this to 16GB.
Also, how do you open the case? Does it simply pry off? Anything serviceable in there? Battery? Internal memory chip?
Thanks,
Dave
Well, theoretically only the battery, and the guide is here :
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Teardown/4103/1
the only way to do it and be positive of the outcome would be to use the memory chip or chips from a tab with 16 internal. even then i think i remember lookin at the teardown and the memory is split into different chips so it is likely your board only has one and not any place to attach extra ones. even then the mfg is done on such a small scale that even if you were an expert solderer it probably cant be done by hand in your home. just my opinion
Absolutely no way, unless you have very expensive equipment, and the knowledge of the device itself.
Thank you very much for the replies.
I was kind of hoping for another micro SD. How naive of me.
Cheers