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Will you be returning anything to get the Tab10,1 (us model)

Do you have a tablet that you are on the fence about and thinking of returning it for the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 (US model)
Maybe your tablet has more ports or a keyboard dock or Google's baby(xoom) for updates.

I'd rather have a transformer but I think I'll stick with my galaxy tab anyway

I may return my Xoom for one of these. Depends on the reviews when they're released.
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I took my Blackberry Playbook back to BestBuy today. I was actual really impressed with the Playbook. However, I feel Android is going to be the future of Tabs, and that the 8.9 would be a better every day use, portable form factor.
I managed to procure a Google IO 10.1 which will be here Monday. Really looking forward to these tablets!

Returning my Xoom for it
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My xoom.. Motorola's handling of software upgrades (canada gets sd card functionality, but nothng for the us) is a joke, the screen is marginal and it is uncomfortable to hold on long flights.
Ultimately, my xoom bricked itself and never turned back on.. Thank goodness for costco's return policy.

My G-slate already went back. Eventhough I got it for $430 with no contract...

I might try the acer w500, people are saying it handles 1080p pretty well, this doesnt, also lack of expandable memory is a killer, although 3g is the only reason ill keep it for a while at least.

A nook color I'd prefer a slate that was meant to run honeycomb.
I'm not really returning it, just giving it to my friend.

I returned my Transformer. It was kinda tough, because I really will miss the microSD, micro USB, and mini HDMI ports on the tablet, plus the ability to use the most sweet keyboard dock ever.
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
I'm going with the Galaxy Tab because it's lighter, something I value a lot in a 10 inch tablet, even small weight differences become noticeable over time.
The Galaxy Tab just looks a lot better. I don't mind admitting I care about the appearance of my tablet. Galaxy Tab looks sleek and elegant. Transformer looked quite ugly in my eyes with it's sharp angles and extra wide aluminum bezel.
Hoping the glass on the Galaxy Tab is thicker. I could push on the Transformer glass and easily see it bending like it was some cheap resistive display. Nothing like my iPad that doesn't bend at all.

I did the same thing,now I hope the GT10.1 will not disappoint me.
Ravynmagi said:
I returned my Transformer. It was kinda tough, because I really will miss the microSD, micro USB, and mini HDMI ports on the tablet, plus the ability to use the most sweet keyboard dock ever.
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
I'm going with the Galaxy Tab because it's lighter, something I value a lot in a 10 inch tablet, even small weight differences become noticeable over time.
The Galaxy Tab just looks a lot better. I don't mind admitting I care about the appearance of my tablet. Galaxy Tab looks sleek and elegant. Transformer looked quite ugly in my eyes with it's sharp angles and extra wide aluminum bezel.
Hoping the glass on the Galaxy Tab is thicker. I could push on the Transformer glass and easily see it bending like it was some cheap resistive display. Nothing like my iPad that doesn't bend at all.
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Ravynmagi said:
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
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If you thought the back if the Transformer was slippery, then you're probably in for a surprise with the GTab. Personally, I'm not sure if I'll get the GTab or keep my Transformer.
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Jocelyn said:
If you thought the back if the Transformer was slippery, then you're probably in for a surprise with the GTab. Personally, I'm not sure if I'll get the GTab or keep my Transformer.
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Really? In a couple of reviews I read they didn't mention anything about it being slippery.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-limited-edition-20110511/

Chandelure said:
Really? In a couple of reviews I read they didn't mention anything about it being slippery.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-limited-edition-20110511/
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I'm basing that off of owners who have posted in forums, not reviews. Moreover, I'm not really aware of any tablet review that's ever gone into how slippery the back of the tablet was.
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I was about to buy an acer iconia a500, but decided to wait for this one. I was worried about samsung forcing the touchwiz ui on top of it, but since I heard it is going to be optional I am gonna go with this for the size.

Jocelyn said:
I'm basing that off of owners who have posted in forums, not reviews. Moreover, I'm not really aware of any tablet review that's ever gone into how slippery the back of the tablet was.
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Samsung says they put an easy grip material on the back to keep the tablet from slipping.
Though looking at the back of the Google IO tablets, they look different and may not have the easy grip material, and instead got the Android tiles. So maybe the final retail Galaxy Tab will be better.

I returned an a500 yesterday to wait for this tablet to come out. Don't fail me now samsung

Returned my transformer. Many annoying problems that were mostly solved by rebooting, but once the touch screen died I just returned it to newegg.

Also returned the tf after my screen stopped responding to touch. Will be picking up the tab come June 8th

I'm really surprised with myself and I'm sure I've been shunned away from the A500 forums, but I too returned my A500 for the 10.1.
I've been a huge fan of Samsung products and I didn't want to change now. I enjoyed my A500, but I feel like the online community and manufacture support will be better with this.
I hate waiting until the 8th of June for it, but I'm willing to do it for a sleeker, thinner, lighter model. I'm a professional firefighter and I hated taking my 17" laptop to work with me for 24 hours. I was originally going to purchase the Xoom, but the price made it not worth it for me. The A500 was perfect, but again, I feel like I will gain so much more here. The HDMI, USB, and MicroSD did absolutely nothing for me. I was surprised how little I used it. I never even used the MicroSD slot.
Anyways, like everyone else on here, I'm hoping that in the end this will be a good decision.

[Q] Tab 10.1 or EEE Transformer or Option C?

Ok, so i was instantly hooked the second Samsung teased their new thinner Tab10.1.
Since then i've been disapointed.
No Expandable memory (and only 16GB internal)
No HDMI
My 2 main uses for my tablet are reading News/Blogs and media consumption.
I just can't figure out if i'm ok with a thin, light, well performing tablet if it's going to lack video output and at least 32GB memory.
So far the EEE Pad Transformer is a fatter heavier option, but it might suit me better.
I'm open to be swayed one way or another. feel free to throw in another good recommendation too. it seems like theres 10 new Honeycomb tablets per week.
What do?

You won't notice 2mm more thickness if you are not hyped to it.
If you can live without the GT screen resolution, then yes, there are more functional Android tabs.
For me it's the display quality. I read a lot of books so it must be awesome.

I own an eeepc 1015pn that I added a 120gb ssd to, I was originally looking to purchase a transformer, prior to the release of the tab... but I would have ended up with two devices that were similar. that and the asus rep at the store kinda blew me off so I said F that.
I like the tab. its small and I don't need the extra space or ports, because I typically will have both my netbook and tablet with me at the same time.

The Transformer's thickness didn't bother me. It was the bezel, it's got squared edges and wasn't that comfortable to hold after a while, mainly in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is by far the most comfortable tablet I've held, even more comfortable than the iPad 2.
No HDMI out was a minor thing since that isn't something I would use much anyway, I could use a laptop instead. No micro SD actually bothered me a lot. But in the end I decided comfort was worth more than micro SD (and the cheaper price tag).
Another tablet to perhaps keep an eye on is the Toshiba Thrive. It's got a lot of nice ports, full SD, USB, micro USB, and full HDMI. Along with a removable back cover and battery. It's heavy though and that worries me some, but Engadget said it didn't feel as heavy as expected and the rubber back makes it more comfortable to hold.

Ravynmagi said:
The Transformer's thickness didn't bother me. It was the bezel, it's got squared edges and wasn't that comfortable to hold after a while, mainly in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is by far the most comfortable tablet I've held, even more comfortable than the iPad 2.
No HDMI out was a minor thing since that isn't something I would use much anyway, I could use a laptop instead. No micro SD actually bothered me a lot. But in the end I decided comfort was worth more than micro SD (and the cheaper price tag).
Another tablet to perhaps keep an eye on is the Toshiba Thrive. It's got a lot of nice ports, full SD, USB, micro USB, and full HDMI. Along with a removable back cover and battery. It's heavy though and that worries me some, but Engadget said it didn't feel as heavy as expected and the rubber back makes it more comfortable to hold.
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I have the Samsung 10.1,how do the screens compare to each other?I'm thinking about getting a transformer but is the Samsung 10.1 screen superior to it??

Barely. They're both very good screens but the Samsung one is more vibrant and bright (due to settings I'm sure).
PS: There should be a stickied topic regarding these... comparisons. Or people should learn to use the search.

cglowstick said:
No Expandable memory (and only 16GB internal)
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I just can't figure out if i'm ok with a thin, light, well performing tablet if it's going to lack video output and at least 32GB memory.
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You do know you can get it with 32GB, right?

Itaintrite said:
Barely. They're both very good screens but the Samsung one is more vibrant and bright (due to settings I'm sure).
PS: There should be a stickied topic regarding these... comparisons. Or people should learn to use the search.
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Is it like comparing super amoled to retna display? Like that kind of difference?
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Transformer vs Galaxy tab 10.1

I literally just put my order in about 3 days ago and will see my TF on Thursday, but I'm having second thoughts. A friend of mine just got his TF in today, and - well I dunno, I'm not all that impressed.
Out of the box came with the speaker issue (one side is louder than the other). The sound wasn't all that loud
Screen brightness was kind of low
The sharp edges were cutting my fingers
So I started to have a read about the differences between the Transformer & the Galaxy tab in the Galaxy Tab section. However, I think everyone posting there is biased toward the tab because they are now tab fanboys posting in their forum.
A few things I do like about the TF. Price of $399 (unbeatable) Expandable ports, dock option, memory slot, hdmi out, 5mpx camera. Do I think I'll use all of that (except price)? Probably not.
A few things I like about the Tab. Same size screen with less bulk, thinner, lighter, rounded edges, very solid build quality. Do I think its worth an extra $100 for these items? I think so. Plus I know the resale value will definitely be there because its a well known brand.
I haven't made up my mind completely on this but im about 80% of the way there in returning my TF and going with the Tab.
Thoughts, comments?

Nobody can decide for you. Do whatever you are happiest with.

Having used a hybrid tablet/netbook like the Transformer, I would never buy a tablet-only device.

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It's more than $100 (or here in germany 100€). You don't have a MicroSD Slot and HDMI-out. Do you need both options you must pay way more. And for the same price you can get a Transformer+Dock.
I don't see, why anybody would pay more for less...

Hi mate,
I have had the TF since release day and to be honest I'm very happy with it. It does what I need it to do very well: reading books, browse internet, playing games, plays movies (although there are some issues).
On the other hand I don't need and I will never get the dock, simply because if I wanted a netbook there are much better options on the market. And I have one of them as well.
Because of that I'm waiting to see the Galaxy Tab in real life, hold it in my hands. And if that offers everything that I need and is better than the TF I might go for it.
So good luck choosing! Let us know what you go for.
rio
PS: Actually what I'm considering at the moment is the small Galaxy tab 8.9 (I think). That one was on the Samsung website for a while, but I'm not sure what is the current status

rio911 said:
PS: Actually what I'm considering at the moment is the small Galaxy tab 8.9 (I think). That one was on the Samsung website for a while, but I'm not sure what is the current status
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Actually that is the "MEDIUM" Galaxy Tab. THe "small" one is the 7 inch versions and there are two of them. The powerful 3G/Wifi one and the neutered and less power Wifi only version.
The MAJOR downside to any Galaxy Tabs are :
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
2.) 10 inchers have no expansion slots.....and the 8.9 as well I think.
Get whatever YOU decide to be happy with. Others cannot make that choice for you. Only YOU can.

Some people like smaller I would not be able to stand a 7" tablet or laptop without optical media. My motto has always been its the size/shape that makes it portable it doesn't matter if its 20lbs its still light and easy to move around. But then again I compare it with moving around 300-400lbs.

Digiguest said:
Actually that is the "MEDIUM" Galaxy Tab. THe "small" one is the 7 inch versions and there are two of them. The powerful 3G/Wifi one and the neutered and less power Wifi only version.
The MAJOR downside to any Galaxy Tabs are :
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
2.) 10 inchers have no expansion slots.....and the 8.9 as well I think.
Get whatever YOU decide to be happy with. Others cannot make that choice for you. Only YOU can.
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Gtab. 10.1 also with build issues. Many are suffering from Newton rings. Dust under screen. Colors are way oversaturated.....
If u want android in an ipad like body then go Samsung. If Samsung would have made the device 1 or 2 mm thicker and put in micro SD and HDMI they also would have been able to prevent the Newton ring issue and have the one killer tablet.
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Digiguest said:
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
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I don't know how you can say that really.... there hasn't been any major updates for Samsung to pass onto the Tablets. The only time when you'll be able to use that point is when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. I'd say that 1/2 months is a good enough turn around for manufacturers to update their devices a major version.
I'd also like to note that I have a Galaxy S. While Americans are still using Eclair because of their crappy carriers wanting to hack the firmware to bits, us using unbranded european devices got Gingerbread before any other device (bar the Nexus devices). Samsung know what they are doing.

The way I see it, from my experience with the TF is this:
16GB is not enough. My music alone is near this and more. Since there is no additional storage options on the GT, you are going to have to opt for a 32GB or more which equals greater $$$ to spend. But sacrifices could be made...
So, I would say the dock is the real reason to get this thing. If you are not too excited about the dock, I wouldn't bother. The GT excels in design, but the TF excels in utility and value.

If the "sharp edges" of the Transformer are really "cutting [your] fingers," that's a physical problem with the device (or your fingers, I guess!).

Buy sleeve m8,than will be perfect

Your not the first to have these concerns. I bought the tf and was considering selling it for a tab. But what you've stated (price, microsd, HDMI out, and KB option) kept me from doing so.
I played with the tab for an hour or so and still prefer my tf. I didn't like the button placement on the tab, (they're in a more natural placement on the tf.
I did have the speaker issue on my tf but it was an easy fix. Just root it (there's a very well written guide by yours truly ;-)) and read up on the thread in the development section and it's as easy as editing a txt file.
If the edges bother you, grab a case, I'm currently using the roocase multi-angle which I got from amazon for under $30.
Other than that the only downside of the tf I see is the charger. Proprietary connection, short cable and sometimes the adapter doesn't want to work.
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I was in the same boat. I traded my iPad2 for an Android tablet and had lots of offers. I was looking at the Galaxy Tab and thought it was for me until I found that it didn't have any expansion ports like the iPad2. It is one of the reasons why I HATED the iPad2 because you had to carry around the special USB cable to sync it... then you needed special software for it to work...
Screw all that. I need to be able to quickly get files on and off the my tablet. I don't want to have to rely on another computer or a computer with special software to read my stuff.
90% of the time you'll have access to a Home or Work PC which you will probably have setup properly... but trust me... you WILL find yourself somewhere needing to pull a picture off or text or an attachment or something and you'll be stuck. It will happen more often the more you use it.
Plus the price point. I was trading my iPad2 for whichever I wanted. Did I need the keyboard dock? No. Will I use the keyboard dock often? No. Is it badass? Yes.
The keyboard dock has an additional battery that will charge the tablet battery when docked. It also increases the functionality of the tab.
Both tablets are identical in hardware except the Transformer has lots of additional ports. microSD is a must and HDMI out is actually very handy for throwing pictures, movies, games, etc on a larger screen.
I just can't see buying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the same price as you could buy the Transformer + Dock.

sontin said:
It's more than $100 (or here in germany 100€). You don't have a MicroSD Slot and HDMI-out. Do you need both options you must pay way more. And for the same price you can get a Transformer+Dock.
I don't see, why anybody would pay more for less...
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I wouldn't exactly call the Samsung as "less" than the Transformer. I think they're different enough that it's gonna come down to how you personally use it.
One thing I'd like to point out - the Gtab is much easier to hold in your hand than the Transformer. Corners aren't as sharp, it's lighter, and seems better balanced. The texture on the back of the Gtab is easier to grab, though this could be solved with a sleeve on the Transformer.
Another point is screen reflection. The Transformer's glass is much farther away from the LCD than the glass on the Samsung. IPS screens are nice, but unless you're always going to be in a optimally lit room, you'll see a lot more reflections with the Transformer than with the Samsung Tab. Some Samsung Tab's have issues with the screen actually touching the LCD and making oil marks, but most don't.
So - the differences are definitely there. I don't you can write off the Gtab's advantages. The reflection and ergonomics itself might be worth $100.

My experience is that I just bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB about 5 days ago. I played with it over night and returned it the next day.
The following day, I purchased the Transformer 16GB and a dock for $50.00 more.
Now that I've owned the TF for 3-4 days, I'm very satisfied with it for many reasons:
- Multiple media input/out options: mini HDMI out, x2 USB ports, and SD/MMC card reader. - Will work perfectly with my Nikon P100's SD card and I can use a external HDD and plug it right into the USB port if I want to watch my movies.
- Dock acts as extended battery: I also tether my HTC Thunderbolt and plug it into the dock to keep a charge on my Thunderbolt while tethering my 4G to the Transformer.(SO MUCH WIN!!!)
- Having a keyboard when I want to compose an email is x100 better than thumbing my words through the tab. - I still use the touchscreen kb for somethings.
- Dock/keyboard has shortcut buttons which I take advantage of all the time.
- Textured casing makes handling the tablet/net book very secure and eliminates any smudges.
*I do not see where in the world you could cut your hand/finger on the tablet or the docking station. - You should tell your friend to get an RMA because there's something wrong with the one he has. Either that or he may need to see a dermatologist about amyloidosis, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.
Re: Samsung Galaxy 10.1
I chose that tablet first because of the sleek design. I was extremely impressed with the way that Samsung engineered the design.
HOWEVER, no more than 1-2 hours after playing with it, I came back to my senses and see how limited I was with any options. Not only does it look like an iPad but it also has all the shortcomings in hardware that the iPad does.
I have had a few Android devices and so it's practically a religion to have a microSD card for my stuff. Samsung decided to cut back on adding any option to extend storage and that was a the biggest decider for me. - All the selling points that a Android tablet has in terms of hardware-media expansion was nerfed on latest Galaxy Tab. Did Samsung want to imitate Apple so much that they even decided to try and sell a tab that requires additional parts to make it comparable to all other tablets?
In the end, this is only my real life opinion having owned both devices and what I still have now is the Asus Transformer.
Once I used the keyboard/dock with my tablet, I can not imagine another tablet without this option. Asus did a decent job in engineering the look/feel of the tab with the dock/keyboard.
*I did have to return both tab and dock/keyboard to Best Buy until I found the right Best Buy which had B60 as my previous ones were B50.
Good lucking in making your decision. If you buy it at Best Buy, you can at least return it in 14 days without restocking fee and get the other one. If you felt that first one was better than you can simply return it again and go back to the other model. I am in NO WAY suggesting to abuse a return policy but it's there and it works as mentioned.

coachclass said:
I wouldn't exactly call the Samsung as "less" than the Transformer. I think they're different enough that it's gonna come down to how you personally use it.
One thing I'd like to point out - the Gtab is much easier to hold in your hand than the Transformer. Corners aren't as sharp, it's lighter, and seems better balanced. The texture on the back of the Gtab is easier to grab, though this could be solved with a sleeve on the Transformer.
Another point is screen reflection. The Transformer's glass is much farther away from the LCD than the glass on the Samsung. IPS screens are nice, but unless you're always going to be in a optimally lit room, you'll see a lot more reflections with the Transformer than with the Samsung Tab. Some Samsung Tab's have issues with the screen actually touching the LCD and making oil marks, but most don't.
So - the differences are definitely there. I don't you can write off the Gtab's advantages. The reflection and ergonomics itself might be worth $100.
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Of course the closer together glass in the gtab has led to the oil blob effect for Many
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I've had my TF since right after it launched in the US and I do love it. With that being said, I do plan on picking up a galaxy tab tomorrow, the last day that you can use the $50 off coupon for any tablet at staples.
The TF definately has the advantage when it comes to storage, because of the SD card and dock if you want to buy it, which I have no interest in. The galaxy tab however has a great form factor and from my limited use with one seems to have snappier performance than my TF, even though they have almost idendical specs, and my TF is overclocked. I also prefer the screen on the tab compared to the TF.
Honestly I think that the OP will be happy with either one. My only real gripe against the TF is that the majority of them seem to suufer from light bleed or some manufacturing defect, thankfully I only have minimal bleed, and that Asus has been slow with delivering on most of the official accessories that they promised months ago. I really want the desktop dock, which is readily available for the GT at a reasonable price.
I will say that if the galaxy tab disappoints me in any way during my return window, I will gladly buy a second TF after returning it.

I own the TF since late May...only problem I have with it is that the right speaker is louder than the left.
This past Sunday I bought the Galaxy Tab for someone and yeah it looks very nice it's thinner and lighter, but it seemed to have less options than the TF (specially within the browser settings.) The browser actually froze up on me and didn't want to display any pages. Didn't like that fact that it doesn't have an external microSD slot! I ended up returning it 2 hours later because the person preferred a laptop! My short experience with it wasn't good

Galaxy vs thrive

I want to buy Galaxy tab but i got few question.
I had my eyes set on Toshiba thrive because it offer more ports.But galaxy tab screen and viewing angles and lightweight made me change my decision.
1)Which one got better screen like IPS?
2)anyway to connect some kind of connector to read USB/SD cards if i get galaxy tab.?
3)Is there a moisture issue with galaxy tab?
3)which one got better battery life?

From my experience seeing all of them in person the only two tablets with nice screens are the Samsung Galaxy and the Asus Transformer, the others are washed out looking and not as vibrant.
The Asus has some build issues according to the numerous posts in the Asus forum so it made me stay away.
There is a USB/SD Reader for the Galaxy.
I don't know about the other two questions.....

I just exchanged my thrive for the tab, the thrive was good because of the ports but in my opinion the much better looking screen, lightweight, and thiness makes the tab the better choice. So far I am happier with the Samsung, not to mention I got it for $100 cheaper with the staples coupon

I had 4 Asus Transformers, each with a unique build or operational issue. I bought the keyboard, sleeve, and invisible shield. I invested alot, especially since I had to keep replacing and installing the invisible shield after every swap at Best Buy. The whole Zagg warranty is nice but not when. You pay to have it installed and then pay for shipping. Its about the same as buying a new unit. I digress.
The Galaxy Tab is what I choose. I had a 32gb SD card for the 16gb tramsformer. Its been repurposed to my HTC Evolution 4G and I bought the 32gb Tab model in gun-metal. I can tell you the ounces and millimetersbetween the Asus and Samsung are some valuable ones! It feels so much better in your hand! Thumb keyboard is much better for me on the GT. The screens are very hard to tell any difference at all, to be honest.
Now the reason I did not go with the Thrive and all its ports... I had all those same ports on the Asus Tablet and KB dock. The only thing I used was the SD card slot. Well 32gb is alot of apps and media. And if I can't survive on that, its because I'm being lazy. Lol. Also, I found my primary use was internet and communication (IM, home amd work email, work citrix, etc...) as well as some light gaming and personalization. Android can be addicting when it comes to screen and home setup. Its almost a hobby to sit and mess with it.... and with this beautiful Galaxy screen. Wow!
The Best Buy guys liked the Toshiba alot for all the ports, battery, and back cover options. I thoughtvit mattered when I got the Asus. It really didn't. I just wanted space. With the USB dongle and a small SD card USB reader or thumb driver, you can expand lightly and easily for use. The keyboard and and accessories are starting to pour out as well for the Tab. That will mean alot in case choice and the keyboard and media dock are very nice. The Asus keyboard battery supplement was nice. But bulky too.
All in all, FOR ME, form and weight won because ultimately that boosts my operations. I had to find ways to prop the Asus after long periods of handheld use, and the Thrive was bigger and heavier. So I know I made the right choice ... again for me.
So bottom line.... is form and weight going to make your expierience more enjoyable? Or will direct port access give you the pleasure pleasure your looking for? That really is what helped with my decision and I could not be happier. GALAXY Tab10.1 all the way!
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I had a look at a Thrive today (It got to New Zealand before the 10.1 for some reason) and it's got to be the most hideously ugly piece of electronic kit I have ever laid my eyes on.
Yuck. That camera bezel and its brick like appearance are massive turn offs.

ministerjee said:
I want to buy Galaxy tab but i got few question.
I had my eyes set on Toshiba thrive because it offer more ports.But galaxy tab screen and viewing angles and lightweight made me change my decision.
1)Which one got better screen like IPS?
2)anyway to connect some kind of connector to read USB/SD cards if i get galaxy tab.?
3)Is there a moisture issue with galaxy tab?
3)which one got better battery life?
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A friend of mine from work has a Thrive and I get to play with it a lot. But I still prefer my GT10.1 and this is why:
1) The GT10.1's screen is definitely superior. It takes some getting used to the vibrancy of the colors, but PLS is a bit ahead of IPS in my opinion (have an iPad 1 and owned the TF for a while). The viewing angles are just much better. It might be just me, but the Thrive is the worst fingerprint magnet I've seen. Don't have as much of an issue with my GT10.1 in that department. Also, the higher-def encoding that Toshiba introduced for the Thrive is unnoticeable to me. My friend also agrees that my screen is better.
2) There is def. a USB connector out already from Samsung. It's a bit pricey but does the job. I haven't really had the need for it, so I didn't invest. That is one of the advantages of the Thrive. If you see yourself needing that, then consider the Thrive (I'd get it over the TF. My friend also returned his TF for the Thrive and hasn't looked back).
3) I know some people have mentioned this moisture problem, but I believe the vast majority of us have NO issues with the GT10.1 at all. People tend to talk about what's wrong with their devices rather than praise it on forums. It's natural. Coming from the Tranformer, this thing is absolutely perfect. No light bleeding, dead pixels, bending, etc. Just perfect!
4) I believe the GT10.1 has the slight advantage there. Most HC tablets will yield 8-10 hours battery life. I get days and days on standby after setting the Wireless to turn off when the screen is off. If you think about it, you don't really need your tablet to provide immediate email notifications, etc. That's what your smartphone is for. Definetely can't complain about the battery life on either device. I feel that the Thrive's tiny inferiority on this department is due to having to power the other components (USB, HDMI, etc.). I might be wrong.
Basically, my decision to go with the GT10.1 came from the fact that I already have a laptop. If I didn't have a laptop/netbook, I would have considered the Thrive more. I want my tablet as a tablet nothing more. Never did I feel the need to do anything extra on my iPad 1 and I definitely don't feel that need with the GT10.1. It doesn't get any more portable and convenient than this.

Toshiba Thrive can accept SDXC cards up to 2 TB wow!
Sorry Samsung Tab 10.1

qipengart said:
Toshiba Thrive can accept SDXC cards up to 2 TB wow!
Sorry Samsung Tab 10.1
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It's just too thick....there are win 7 tabs with tons of ports and more power in almost the same form factor....

I bet if you dropped the Thrive on your toe it would break your toe before the tablet. Lol. It just lacks so much in that department its a deal breaker.
If its the price you like, for the same price I'd over look the Transformer return rate, and keep returning until you get your hands on a July unit. The June units went through a less vigorous QA check to respond to demand (says the transformer forums.) Best Buy could not track which of their units were June vs. July.... or which when they would get any new ones at all(from July.)
I just needed something I could 'move into' and stay 'moved in.' There is only so many times you can setup your tablet before that is all you do is setup, tablet after tablet. I spent another $200 for the Tab10.1, but at least I am now using a tablet (and not setting it up again and again!)
The best thing to do is review the review and remarks on BestBuy.com and Amazon.com. Those reviews are easy to weed through user error and product praise or poor product.
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I just exchanged my thrive for the tab, the thrive was good because of the ports but in my opinion the much better looking screen, lightweight, and thiness makes the tab the better choice. So far I am happier with the Samsung, not to mention I got it for $100 cheaper with the staples coupon
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I did the same, looked at the Thrive at OD , then went to Staples and paid $399.99 for the Galaxy.

thrive = toughbook
ugly!!!

qipengart said:
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really? don't you have a primary device?
tablets are for secondary use only

Thank you everyone for your wonderful replies. I hope Gtab won't disoppoint me.Can any pne confirm if its a PLS display screen or just a TFT ???

Regarding storage.... I just saw a GoFlex Seagate 500gb drive that is 1) battery powered, 2) wifi and Bluetooth enabled, and 3) $199 at Best Buy. With this drive you can store 300 movies and access from most mobile OS's wirelessly. Forget $100 32gb micro SD card slots. This makes much more sense to me. No more eject and insert. Just share and access.
This completely solves the question of which tablet has more ports and compatibility. Do you have wifi or Bluetooth? Yes! Issue resolved! Don't event take it out of your pocket or bag.
The Galaxy Tab has a Samsung Amoled screed. They produce it. If you've ever been shopping for a new flatscreen TV, you will already know Samsung is top of the heap. The Amoled and Tegra 2 processor are top notch in the market of mobility. To me the Amoled screen is superior to the iPAD2 and Asus TF IPS display. Every IPS display I've seen had light leaks around the edges. Not seen a single Amoled screen with such a defect.
It makes a big difference when viewing dark images or movies.
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I like my tab but it doesn't come with amoled display .... that is still only on Samsung phones.
Hopefully we will get a tablet with amoled display soon.
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Sorry! It looks very similar. I had an Epic 4G and could swear the screen was Amoled. Here are the specs, just for further questions on specs.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-P7510MAYXAB-specs
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ad78 said:
thrive = toughbook
ugly!!!
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Lol
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The Comparison to End All Comparisons: A500 vs. Eee Pad, It's a Landslide!

So, recently I've seen a lot more threads comparing the Eee Transformer to the A500. Before I bought either of these tablets I did a ton of product comparison in store with various display models, at least 3 A500's and 3 Transformers.
Note: for full disclosure the Eee Pad what I thought I wanted when I first started looking at tabs.
I am writing this review as I believe all of these comparisons to date have been based on box stats and not real world trials. Below I will layout the features that really matter (e.g. I'm not going to review bluetooth, let's make some assumptions here) and how they stack up in a direct comparison.
Weight / Build Quality
Held each tab, A500 in my left, Transformer in my right, you CAN notice the difference, is it significant? Strangely when holding one tab the Transformer feels way lighter, however, when you pick the Acer up again, it feels almost the same. It's hard to explain, go try it yourself.
When holding the Asus you immediately realize the reason for the Acer's extra weight is better build quality. You can literally FEEL the build quality difference. I pushed on the screen of the Asus around the power button and it receeded about 1/8th of an inch! The Acer's screen also flexes, but not nearly as much. Asus build quality is terrible, I would gladly pay the extra weight penalty for the stronger build of the Acer.
If you are a thumb typer, and if you find wide bezels to be an issue, you will notice that the Acer actually has a narrower bezel than the Asus, I couldn't believe the Asus' bezel was wider, but it is!
Battery Life
Looking at the tech. specs each of these tablets should have pretty much the same battery life. The battery capacity of the Asus is 6600 mAH and the Acer is about 80 mAH less, a negligible difference. They run similar processors, however, some have said the IPS panel of the Transformer equates to better battery life. Something however is amiss in the numbers department though... Asus has said 9.5 hours of battery life, however, every review online (and I looked at 6) pegged the Asus' battery life at ~7.5 hours and the Acer's battery life at ~7.5 hours, there is no real world difference here.
Considering the Acer has low power DDR2 RAM while the Asus does not, this may also explain some of the balance as IPS panels have been shown to run less power.
Camera Quality (back camera, who cares about front anyway)
With the update to 3.2 and 1080P recording, the Acer has an AWESOME video camera now which takes great stills too, I was blown away (have you tried it yet? If not, try it now!). This paragraph will be short and sweet, the Asus' camera blows. It takes crappy video, it looks way less clear and crisp and the same is true for stills. Not even in the same league as the Acer's camera now and there is no flash, the Acer dominates in cameras bigtime!
Connectivity
The Asus tries hard, however, it just can't match the Acer. The USB port of the Acer will come in handy at least once in its lifetime, not to mention the ease of adding a keyboard, game controller, etc. Moreover, the HDMI connection on the Acer is micro, while the HDMI on the Asus is mini. Mini HDMI is much harder to find than micro, I had no problem finding a micro HDMI cable, however, mini HDMI cables had to be ordered off the web.
Price
$399 for 16GB, both models, no difference anymore!
UI Performance
The Acer I ran tested on the floor of course utilized Honeycomb 3.1 while the Asus was running Honeycomb 3.2. Even though the Asus has the latest version of Honeycomb, the Acer performs much smoother while scrolling the UI and loading applications. The difference was evident, so much so, this was ultimately the deciding factor for me. The Acer appears to dominate here even with the older software and similar hardware. Some have rumored that the speed increase of the Acer is due to its using LPDDR2 RAM when the Asus uses older DDR2 RAM. I can not confirm this, but benchmarks also showed a slight edge to the Acer.
Screen Quality
There has been a lot of discussion of Asus' screen quality vs. Acer's. I went in with the expectation that the Asus would be noticably different (I have perfect eyesight btw). I could not, repeat, could not tell a single damn difference between the two when both on high brightness with XDA Developers loaded in the browser. Perhaps the Asus was slightly "crisper", however, that could be my IPS bias. There is no difference folks, and if you can tell, my hats off to you.
The Acer losses out on glass though. The Asus uses corning name brand Gorilla Glass, while the Acer states it only uses "tempered glass". If you expect to not get a case, or if you are prone to dropping your tablet on its face (most likely you will destroy more than the glass) then you must consider this angle. Gorilla glass is going to help a bit with scratches and perhaps cracks, however, I also noticed it shows more finger prints than the Acer does. *see post #2 apparently the A500 does have gorilla glass!
Screen angles on both are a joke. You can look at the Acer up to 160 degrees, why would you want to? You can look at the Asus up to 179 degrees, but why would you want to? Screen angles are pretty much identical, both are very viewable from the side.
Accessories
Acer has basic cases and other crap, the Asus of course has the whole battery extending USB-porting keyboard dock. Obviously, Asus destroys Acer here. If you don't already own a laptop or netbook, this may matter to you. However, remember that most of your productivity applications are probably not in Android and if you want to be productive, a tablet no matter what dock it has is not nearly as effective as a laptop.
Sound Quality
Another landslide for the Acer, the Dolby sound is the best sound I've ever heard on a mobile device, no joke. I had heads snapping in my living room trying to figure out how such big clear sound was coming out of a tiny little tablet. People will notice. The Asus? Sounds exactly like you'd expect a tablet to sound, like a tin can.
Conclusion
In summary, I ended up buying the Acer A500. With the Asus I could get a bit lighter weight and a keyboard dock that's totally awesome. These were the main benefits the Asus offers over the Acer. As I discovered the lower weight was due to poor construction and materials, the slighter weight of the Asus was no longer a factor. As I didn't need a keyboard, the obvious choice became the Acer due to its superior usability overall.
I hope this helps prospective buyers!

Very nice review! Makes me glad I chose the Acer over the Asus too, although my main reason was that the Acer was available locally with no wait.
Just a quick correction though, even though Acer doesn't say so, according to www.corningorillaglass.com the A500 does sport the Gorilla Glass. I'm not sure why Acer wouldn't mention it, since it is a decent buying point, but there you go.

funny but i bought because of 100 dollar staple coupon.
and then keep reading reviews on amazon...this is best review i ever read.
ipad iconia and zt-180 v2 all over sofa and bed...

Very thourough review. I have been enjoying my A500 for a couple weeks now. Got a good deal on Amazon. I am new to Android devices, so I have spent a lot of time on xda forums learning how to root and flash new ROM on my device.

Would have been interested to hear how the mics compared for video calling etc.

pankaj2000 said:
funny but i bought because of 100 dollar staple coupon.
and then keep reading reviews on amazon...this is best review i ever read.
ipad iconia and zt-180 v2 all over sofa and bed...
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Exactly my reasoning as well! I was thinking that I may look at tablets around Christmas, since I am sure there will be some crazy deals, but I happened to see the $100 Staples coupon and decided to jump on it. It was originally intended for the kids but they have a hard time pulling it away from me.

Is it just my unit, or have others noticed a MAJOR difference in recorded video quality when running a custom 3.2 ROM as opposed to 3.1? I recorded some video in the kitchen of my house, played it back, and it looked extremely realistic. My wife who doesn't even like tech. was pretty happy about it, that's saying something. It was super crisp and clear, definitely the best video device I have now! But I also don't have any dedicated video camera...

goofytim said:
Exactly my reasoning as well! I was thinking that I may look at tablets around Christmas, since I am sure there will be some crazy deals, but I happened to $300 see the $100 Staples coupon and decided to jump on it. It was originally intended for the kids but they have a hard time pulling it away from me.
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got ipad for me on my birthday $400 and wife took it..$100 off staples coupon got me iconia
$300 and kids took it..now i m stuck with zt-180v2....but iconia is the best...

I liked the more solid feel, and the full size USB port on the tab itself. I couldn't tell much difference between the screens either.
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As a transformer owner I can vouch on three things:
1. IMO the screen quality is miles ahead of the A500;
2. The weight difference is neglible but the A500 feels bulkier and slightly more awkward to hold;
3. The A500's sound quality is killer. The TF101's speakers make a train station passenger information system sound like a bose home theatre.. Yes, it's ****e !!!
Don't berate me, these are just my opinions...

The two are so close. The TF is noticeably lighter. Screen is a bit better on the TF. The keyboard dock is rad, but kind of pricey. Not a bad decision either way. It was a REALLY tough choice to pick between the two.
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Yes, it is a VERY difficult choice, for me, I love the sound and cameras and don't mind the weight nor need the keyboard dock. If you think like me, go Acer, if you really need the dock and the weight, perhaps a bit better screen (if you can notice), go the Asus!

I use my A500 mostly in portrait mode since I do a lot of reading so that makes the keyboard useless. The extended battery is a welcome addition but if I need the tablet docked while I'm reading, that seems kinda awkward. Also the color sucks. No offense to Asus owners but seriously the color sucks. The finish on the A500 is really nice and feels sturdy.

Dolby Mobile is awesome
I just felt like chiming in regarding the A500. I think the audio is better than any other tablet. The iPad does not have stereo. Even the TouchPad, with it's "beats" music system does not sound as good as the Dolby Mobile on the A500. Rock on!

I tried video conference the other day, and the audio on my A500 was horrible, can't hear anything. I have the Acer folio on it, so it should not be a problem?
I compared at a Office depot store, the screen seems brighter on the Asus, nicer, I feel. But given the fact that buying the Asus means I'll have to end up with buying a dock for $140 more, just not worth it.

ctiger said:
I tried video conference the other day, and the audio on my A500 was horrible, can't hear anything. I have the Acer folio on it, so it should not be a problem?
I compared at a Office depot store, the screen seems brighter on the Asus, nicer, I feel. But given the fact that buying the Asus means I'll have to end up with buying a dock for $140 more, just not worth it.
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You couldn't hear the audio? Do you know if the other side had their mic's turned up? The audio is very loud on my A500, too loud, I get complaints when I crank it up from the wife..

Has anyone tried the new video recording in 3.2 yet? It's epic on mine! Please, chime in with your experiences..

Nice comparative write up!
While I agree with just about everything you've written, I have to say that the difference in display is very noticeable....as noticeable as viewing an image on the A500 and TV via HDMI out at the same time. Colors are much more vibrant on a Transformer's display, but panel brightness is visually the same in my opinion.
When I was first in the market, I purchased both the Transformer and Iconia A500 to try with in the limitations of the return policy. I basically came to the same conclusion as yourself.
The first Acer I purchased had a questionable build. The upper left corner of the tab would creak under slight pressure. Very annoying, but after researching a bit...some people was stating the same experience and some were not. The Transformer seemed to be more solid in comparison.....well as solid as plastic could be, but at the time, the most important part was that it didn't creak nor had hairline cracks at the seams like the A500 I first tried.
Also the right speaker sounded like it was in a tin can while a pebble rattled around. I opened it up to see if the speaker was torn or what have you, only to discover a set screw was backed out enough to allow the speaker to vibrate against the mounts/casing.
But after going back to the store and checking to see if the display model shared the same annoyance, I realized I had received one that got past quality control. So I'm happy to say the current A500 is solid.
Anyway, in my opinion...if it weren't for the built in USB port, I probably would still be trying to decide between the two.

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Has anyone tried the new video recording in 3.2 yet? It's epic on mine! Please, chime in with your experiences..
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I'm using Taboonay 2.0 and I have to say yes the video recording id epic.

I couldn't find micro HDMI cables in Australia in any shop. Unless you count a micro to full HDMI adapter some idiot store wanted $99 for! I bought a 4m cable from eBay for about $20. Just starting to see cables in stores now, but still very expensive rip-offs.
As for keyboard ports, don't. Need them on the Acer as I use the Acer Bluetooth keyboard. Keyboard connectors are so old tech!
And when I bricked my machine playing with ROMs from in here, Acer was very understandering and fixed my machine for me. So i'll stick to the stock ROM. but I did appreciate acer rescuing my machine.
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