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SMS + Linux

I have been trying to find a good way to just hook my qtek s100 up to my linux workstation and write SMS messages through it.
For Windows we have outlook extenders, which give you a new SMS-folder in outlook and sending an sms becomes as easy as sending mail with outlook.
On Linux, on the other hand, we only seem to have "synce", for connecting to a pocket pc PDA.
I've got synce up and running, but I can only manage files (copy, move, remove, and so on).
There is one interesting command, however: prun, for running programs on the pocket pc. So I was thinking: all I really need is a program to start on the pocket pc that takes a phone number as one parameter and the message as another: pocket_sms "050 123 123" "well hello there" or similar. Do you know of any such program?
Another way would be to somehow be able to put a correctly formatted message in the outbox and hope the phone just sees it and sends it away. (or perhaps a send command could be issued somehow).
I would appreciate any insight you may have in this matter. Thanks!
-JJ

AT commands should do the trick..
A simple script, could isert your number and text into a standard AT command set for sending SMS..
But that's about as much as I can tell you..

Bonzo said:
AT commands should do the trick..
A simple script, could isert your number and text into a standard AT command set for sending SMS..
But that's about as much as I can tell you..
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I did some research and found that on a phone edition pocket pc, the device uses two cpu:s with two separate OS:es: one for the phone part and one for the pda -part. (This is what I read anyway and I'm not sure whether it is correct).
It was also said, that the PDA knows of a serial port that is the connection to the phone, but that this serial port would be reserved by the PDA OS (Windows CE) when the device is on.
So right now I have no idea how to send at-commands to the phone from either Linux or from the PDA, but I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks for the tip!
-J

Doh!
Yeah, I just remembered..
I think you'll have to start "Wireless Modem" to use AT commands on the XDA..
This however, disables your device as a phone when in use.. (I think..)

Sorry for the OT but, Do you use Synce via bluetooth?
Because I had no success to do it work :evil: the magician remains like this http://assente.altervista.org/?q=node/view/119 and the PC gives me no output.
Here's what I did http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1219084&forum_id=96106
Please help me!
Have you tried also Multisync to sinchronize the conctacts?
Thanks in advance

assente said:
Sorry for the OT but, Do you use Synce via bluetooth?
Have you tried also Multisync to sinchronize the conctacts?
Thanks in advance
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Hi!
No, I don't use bluetooth, but I recall having seen some discussion about it on the Gentoo forums (I'm a gentoo user myself):
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-284821-highlight-synce+bluetooth.html
Unfortunately, the guy doesn't seem to be quite there yet, but perhaps it will benefit you to monitor their discussion, even if you don't use Gentoo.
I stopped using BT for connections to the computer, since I usually install some program or copy files. I prefer the USB cable because of its higher speed and because it recharges the device at the same time.
I also sync against an exchange server, so I get all contacts, all mail and calendar items synced with the server every 10 minutes. That's just unbeatable, since my gprs-rate is flat (and my company pays for it).
The only odd thing is, that tasks can't be synced over gprs (but over intellisync to the PC it's the most natural thing). What's that all about?
Hope you solve your problems.
-J

Thank you for interesting.
I'm a Gentoo user and I'm that "guy", too
I can't make working synce via usb.. so I'll try synce via USB.
BT is very nice for small files, but USB is the best for the bigger one.

Sorry again,.. which instruction did u follow to set up the device?
did u add some patches to the kernel? http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usb_linux.php#many
Code:
$ dccm -f -d 4
dccm[15947]: Running in foreground
dccm[15947]: Running command: /home/utente/.synce/scripts/trayicon.sh start
synce-trayicon: nessun processo terminato
dccm[15947]: Listening for connections on port 5679
Code:
synce-serial-start
synce-serial-start is now waiting for your device to connect
but I don't see pppd in the log :evil:

Well, going back to the original post, I think there is a nicer way to write SMS messages with your computer; just use KCeMirror. You can install it with synce-kde which gives you additional 3 utilities to control your PDA; RAPIP, RAKI and vdccm. I believe you will have to use KDE window manager to get everything working right.
My system is Debian Testing, and synce-kde and kcemirror packages are available through dselect.
By using Kcemirror I get a mirrored window of my PDA on my laptop desktop and use my mouse and keyboard to easily type out and send an SMS, and do just about anything else on the PDA. Very nice.
As for the synchronization issues, there is another thread on it at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20803&highlight=linux
hope someone can help there.

sfque said:
By using Kcemirror I get a mirrored window of my PDA on my laptop desktop and use my mouse and keyboard to easily type out and send an SMS, and do just about anything else on the PDA. Very nice.
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Thanks! That is excellent news indeed! I will give it a try, although I'm not really a KDE-person myself. I'm using k3b too, so I guess I can live with one more kde-app.
-J

Hi out there,
just wanted to let you know, I'm also using KCeMirror. Works like a charm for me. Even for pickin' up calls, I don't have to touch the magician... :lol:
Greetings,
BGK

Screen burnt, Almost dead XDA EXEC - help required obtaining phone contacts.

Right where do we start with this tragedy of a phone...
I basically need to retrieve my contacts from the phone, but unfortunately my screen has busted, and I can see very little of anything on the screen, I can just about decipher some words, and I basically need a way to "blindly" transfer contact details from the phone to a PC or another phone.
The methods I can think of are: Synching
I have tried an Active Synch connection but it hangs on the "Synchronising" stage. Another issue with the phone is the radio stopped working, so it was just a glorified personal organiser...So not sure if I need to enter anything on the PDA - as I can't see much of the screen.
Transfer each contact one by one:
My right hand hard key is "contacts" so I can enter my contacts screen. and therefore I know I am ON my contacts page, and I know clicking the right hand menu also gives me the context sensitive menu - but I CAN'T SEE IT, or very little, I can just about make out SOME options. So could someone go through what all the key presses would be required to either send via bluetooth - no doubt bluetooth is not on, and need to be able to "blindly" turn bluetooth on?
Or create a "Vcard"/business card? I think this is saved somewhere, which I can then access from synching and using my PC Window XP "explorer" to view the vcard from my PC. I am able to "sync" to view the folders from my PC, but not use the "Sync" to synchronise contacts, etc.
Can someone PLEASE PLEASE have a look at their XDA EXEC and figure out what key presses are required to save one contact person's details. I should be able to repeat the process for the rest.
Your patience and time is most appreciated.
Cheers,
Kasam

Edit 2: Is there a way to copy all contacts to a SIM card? I'm trying SIM Manager now, but I only seem to be able to go from SIM to phone. :/

Any ideas guys?
Another idea I had was if someone had a screen print software? And could send some print screens of the contacts menu with the options available?
Can't see how else to do this
If someone could be kind enough to contact me on abulkasam AT hotmail DOT com. most appreciated.

Can you install soft?
http://www.pocketvnc.com/projects/pocketvnc/index.php
Install that, and then try connecting to it from a VNC client on your pc...
Theoretically it should provide you full access to your pda desktop... using a window on your pc.
No guarantees here as i haven't actually tested it, just googled for Windows Mobile VNC Server

I managed to copy the PIM.VOL file over from the phone via Windows Explorer (on windows XP). So now that I have that file, can I copy it to a replacement XDA EXEC? Or does anyone know if I can open the file in any other way?
Many thanks.
Also unlikely I can "see anything" to install, unless someone can provide key presses for installation...
I can place files on to the pda through Windows pocket pc synch etc.

abulkasam said:
I managed to copy the PIM.VOL file over from the phone via Windows Explorer (on windows XP). So now that I have that file, can I copy it to a replacement XDA EXEC? Or does anyone know if I can open the file in any other way?
Many thanks.
Also unlikely I can "see anything" to install, unless someone can provide key presses for installation...
I can place files on to the pda through Windows pocket pc synch etc.
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You will hit problems if you copy the file to another PDA. You can use an emulator to read the PIM file using XP - you will need to install some stuff though - see here:
Mobile Emulator for XP: (Or use visual studio 2005)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Related threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1285640
Mike

That emulator is pretty cool. Managed to view my contacts on the emulator, but you can't send across contacts. So found some freeware to install on to emulator that saves contacts as CSV files, html etc. However does anyone know of a way of saving all the contacts in the business card format that keeps things like the "picture" associated with contacts? It stays when you beam a file, or send it as business card in any other form. It's not available on the emulator, so any program that replicates this?
I had issues synchronising the contacts with the emulator to activesynch. I used the "cradle" which lets Activesynch see it, but then it fails on the synchronization. Does anyone have any solution?
Many thanks for all your help.

[App Idea]Web Sync -Alpha test 2 (1/13/2011) - File transfer added!

Okay guys, I tried to come up with an idea for Android and I finally came up with one and I'd like to ask what you think of it before I publish to the public. So, I've had a lot of files on my computer in a folder called "Copy later" and I haven't had the time to sit down, connect my phone, and wait for it to sync all the files. I also am aware of many different apps which sync through WiFi but if I travel to places, I don't have the time to wait for it to copy. So, I decided to come up with a solution...Basically, you would turn on your computer, run this super lightweight app which takes your files in a specific folder (or a system folder like "My Documents of My Music") and send it to a remote server. Now, the remote server would wait for your phone to be available (like connected to the internet and to the server) and it will negotiate a connection with it. Once the connection has been built, the remote server will start transferring the files to the phone. When the files have been processed to the phone, the server will delete its "Temp container" and will wait for the computer to tell it to copy more files.
Now, people will also want to backup the contents of their phone and sync up their files. The same process also applies for the phone's data but slightly more efficient. Essentially, you can setup (optionally) some "zones" at which you can sync the corresponding data. For example, when you are at work, you can sync up your contacts and your "Work" folder. When you're at home, it can sync up your music files and maybe your Facebook updates. This is great because it takes in your GPS location and you can set a radius so that if you are within that radius, you can be syncing up some specific folder(s) with your computer. Also, in the event you lose your phone, you would still have the last synced files. This makes your syncing much more efficient.
If you like this idea, I have already started working on it so please tell me if you want to be a beta for it. Right now, it's invite only so post in this thread if you want me to send you a link. I personally think it is useful for me because switching from school to home, to friends' house, it is handy to sync only the stuff I change. Also, Im looking for a name for this app (still haven't thought of one). A good name will get a prize....
UPDATES
-Removed the middle server - Direct pc to android connection
-Encrypted transfers
-Connects through port 4000 so if you have port forwarding done for this, you can connect from anywhere in the world!
-Sends the data encrypted now
Alpha Program 1:
-This simply transfers data from pc to android and establishes a secure connection.
Alpha program 2:
-After long hours of work, I finally got it to transfer the data safely through the web.
-It doesn't send ANY data without encypting it first and this took a while to make but it finally does conversion without much lag.
-Basically, you choose an mp3 from your computer and send it over. Once it completes, it will play on device. Check out the quality...its equal to that on the computer...

Sign me up for the beta.

I don't quite understand.
What files would you be syncing?
How is this different than using DropBox, where I already have 2GB of space?
Who controls this 'remote server'?

dropbox is different because the files "stay" in the server, but in this the server is only a middle means for data transport. The files are deleted from server once the sync is performed. You can sync whatever you want, like music/videos/data/whatever other folder you choose.
Also, dropbox is basically a "file storage"/backup solution. This just transfers the files from desktop to device and back.

Alright. I have begun work on this project. Firstly, I have now eliminated the idea of needing a 3rd party remote server. Now, it will connect directly to the phone using wifi networks and direct tcp/ip protocol. However, the difference is that data will be transfered in ssl. This way, it will be very secure.

rkrishnan2012 said:
... I have now eliminated the idea of needing a 3rd party remote server. Now, it will connect directly to the phone using wifi networks and direct tcp/ip protocol. However, the difference is that data will be transfered in ssl. This way, it will be very secure.
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My interest is piqued now I'm liking this alot! Would come in very handy.

im down for this!

Okay. Firstly, I would like to get a beta out today. This beta will simply send a file to and from your device and tell you if it was successful. There is a windows app and an android app which runs on your phone. Both are light but the point is to encrypt/decrypt the data sent.

I Like The Idea.... Also, If Your Open To Suggestions, I Think A Few Useful Features Would Be:
If You Had A Optional Folder On Both Your Sdcard, And Also Your Desktop, That Can Be Set To AutoMatically Send From Either End (Sdcard Or Desktop) Or Even Send To Email, Or Wherever Else When Files Are Dropped Into Either Optional Folder!!
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Ok so you're saying it should automatically sync whenever things have been updated right? I think that would be easy enough. Problem now is that the computer has to stay on when you want to sync. Is that okay?

rkrishnan2012 said:
Ok so you're saying it should automatically sync whenever things have been updated right? I think that would be easy enough. Problem now is that the computer has to stay on when you want to sync. Is that okay?
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Yes That Would Be Ok, But....
What Do You Think Of A Feature (If Possible?) That Can Detect If Its First Destination (Computer) Is Off, & If So More Or Less Have A Secondary Destination, (Email) Maybe?
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Thats great. When it does a handshake, if it fails, it can resort to a secondary target....email? Isn't that too small of a space to store large files?

rkrishnan2012 said:
dropbox is different because the files "stay" in the server, but in this the server is only a middle means for data transport. The files are deleted from server once the sync is performed. You can sync whatever you want, like music/videos/data/whatever other folder you choose.
Also, dropbox is basically a "file storage"/backup solution. This just transfers the files from desktop to device and back.
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I think you're trying to compete with dropbox by offering a service that doesn't require users to trust dropbox's security. I've looked at what they say about security here:
dropbox.com/help/27 (sorry, forum doesn't let me post actual links)
Reading that makes me feel safe about storing my files there. Then again, if I had data that would put millions of dollars or lives in risk if it got in the wrong hands, I'd want more security.
If you want a successful product, I think you should target it to this latter crowd -- users who take the security of their data very seriously.

right. Which is why i decided to eliminate the idea of needing a middle server.

Great idea. I was ( just like many others) have been looking for way to sync files over the net with no server in between.
It would be even better if the app in the Phone would auto detect any file chnage and sync with the computer.
Gud luk and let me know u need another tester.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

ok. an aplha has been posted and this is merely a test to see if my method of transfer works. Please try it and reply here if it works properly. It seriously takes only 60 seconds to test it out.

This app looks great! If you need some servers for temp. file storage hit me up via PM.
Keep up the great work

Thanks, but I think I am going to not do the temp file storage thing, as some people are concerned with the security of it. Anyway, I may however make a web based login thing where you can access the files in the computer remotely. This web client will act as if it were mimicking a device. Also, how did the app go? Did the transfer work?

Wow...this actually works...
vision

Great then. I will now make one which transfers a sound file (mp3 of your choice), transfers it, then plays it on the phone.
-Another alpha may come out tomorrow or tonight....

Two Essential Free Apps

Just wanted to tell everyone of a few great free apps:
http://91.pandaapp.com/pcsuite/
"Back up and import contacts, back up and import call logs and SMS records, set the ringtones, themes and wallpapers, manage the system, memory and registry of the phone, install and uninstall software, manage schedule…you can manage all functions and settings on your smart phone."
Basically, it's a desktop explorer for your android phone.
I have an Atrix 4G. It's rooted. That's all I needed to do to allow it to install non-market apps.
However, I don't have to use adb to push apk's: I use PandaApp's PC Suite
Been using it for a year now.
"Back up and import contacts, back up and import call logs and SMS records, set the ringtones, themes and wallpapers, manage the system, memory and registry of the phone, install and uninstall software, manage schedule…you can manage all functions and settings on your smart phone."
It installs a daemon on your phone so that you can connect your phone to your PC by WiFi.
It has a bug: it always starts in Chinese even if you set it to English. A fix for a bug that the developer keeps forgetting to repair (it always opens in Chinese!)
The Fix!
Close down the program and open the directory where the app is:
C:\Program Files (x86)\NetDragon\91 Mobile\Android on 64 bit machines
C:\Program Files\NetDragon\91 Mobile\Android on 32 bit machines
open the file named "91 PC Suite.xml" with notepad
change this line:
<Language Current="zh-CN" Default="zh-CN" />
to
<Language Current="en-US" Default="en-US" />
Save the file.
Restart the program
After you install the program, double-clicking on the .apk files will install them to your phone.
Hope this helps.
(requires USB debugging mode to connect via USB)
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My Phone Explorer
"Adressbook - with direct sync to Outlook, GMail, Windows contacts, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Lotus Notes and Tobit David
Organizer with calendarview and direct sync to Outlook, Google, Sunbird, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Windows calendar(Vista), Rainlendar, Lotus Notes, Tobit David and net shared calendars (WebDAV, FTP, local)
SMS - archive, export, import, excessive messages,...
Filebrowser with cachesystem to minimize datatransfer, automatic photosync...
Set phoneclock based on atomtime
and much more. f.e.: calllists, edit profiles, control phone, memorystatus, phonemonitor,..."
Now I was upset that I couldn't sync outlook with my android...until I found this app. It also works by WiFi (if you wish.) However, if you sync your phone with Google AND Outlook, you will get double appointments and a messed up address book. Google calendar isn't helpful to me so I don't use it (and I don't want Google to have my address book.)
FWIW...YMMV

Can anybody else who has used this pandaapp pc suite comment about its performance?

Edprigar said:
Can anybody else who has used this pandaapp pc suite comment about its performance?
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I would like to know this also.
In addition, the Atrix is not listed under the Moto supported devices.

I think this PANDAPC app people also have an app for the iphone as well. I hated it lol.
Sent from my MB508 using XDA Premium App

Performance
I don't know how I could benchmark it, but I can use drag and drop to put files onto the phone.
Once the app is installed, it takes about 15-30 seconds to install an apk just by clicking on it. Alternatively, you can have it open a directory with all your .apk's in it, select all the apk's and it will install all of them.
As for supported devices, I run it on my Atrix and used it on my XPERIA X10.
I also used it with the wife's iPhone (because I hate iTunes!!!!)
It certainly needs a user manual but most of the functions are intuitive.
However, YMMV

thanks much. i tried Pandaapp. i seems alright. like it.

I use myphone explorer mainly to transfer files witout unmounting and to be able use a chat like interface for sms from my pc at work.
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[Q] auto sync files tpt-windows xp

hi all,
for a while i am looking for a way to automatically sync files between my tablet (on dock) and my windows XP sp3 pc over usb. Looking for a trick to sync over the contents of one specified folder (includng subfolders) on connecting and on changes to the files, very much like windows sync or dropbox but then usb.
reason for usb is that i dont want docs in the cloud, nor can the pc and the tablet be on the same wifi (pc on lan). For some other reason, BT doesnt work either (although paired, no connection can be established). USB should be possible though, at least i thought.
I am aware of the MTP issue, which makes it hard just to use regular sync programs. I found only one windows program that reads mtp stations: pure sync. But that doenst really work, messes up everything this far by making additional copies of the files, trashing others, looping in syncs etc.
Here are some other things i tried and noticed:
- docs to go offers syncing for the full version, however thats one way and doesnt work automatically.
feedback from the guys of docs to go:
Unfortunately, Lenovo tablets are not supported on XP machines. On XP, Lenovo devices fail to provide file/directory names and modification dates for some reason.
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- the way it is demonstrated at the lenovo website does not work, probably only does so when connecting to a lenovo laptop. No lenovo utility showing up and cant find a download.
support.lenovo.com/en_NZ/guides-and-manuals/detail.page?DocID=UM014085
(sorry, newbe so no outside links allowed)
- last thing i am tryin but struggling to get working is the app and desktop companion myphoneexplorer (fjsoft.at/en/) I cant get a connection although according to the app my tablet is properly connecter over usb.
- connecting and transferring each file via explorer is a burden. No bookmarks or shortcuts are possible, one has to look for the sub sub sub sub folder every time after reconnection and transferring is not easy as well, often not allowing copy past or accesssing the folder within applications that do not use the windows explorer (e.g. Total commander, sync apps)
- i have read a trick somewhere to connect the tablet using the PTP setting, whereby the DCIM folder is displayed. You allegedly could transfer files (also other than pics) to this folder and after disconnecting you would be able to read them out. But tht didnt work for me, plus the folders were not always accessible nor could i ad a shortcut or bookmark/favourite etc.
Anyone any thoughts on this? would be much appreciated.
additional info; running android 4.03
let me know if you need additional info.
tnx