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Why the need for dozens of ROMS?

My understanding is that a cooked rom is a rom that has lots of bit's taken out and then cabs etc put back to make the HD2 run with better performance etc.
But there are so many roms on here, that it has become confusing as to which rom to put on my device. Also what happens when a new legit rom from HTC comes out - doesnt that mean that all the cooking starts again and we end up with thousands of roms?
I would have thought that the additional software installations after installing a new ROM to get the phone in a decent state would put most people off lol.
This is not a dig btw - i have installed a cooked rom, but i think the forum needs to be maybe reshaped a little more i.e. another category with each rom version.

Agree. Would like to see some kind of categories, maybe one for "Featured ROMs", they are cool, gives a hint of what will come, but they might be unstable. One category for ROMs really close to stock, but with minor changes...

i totall agree.. i am a new member as you can see on my number of posts.. i would really like to get to know which rom update is for what and which works best with htc hd2.
need help.

Just do some more research and find what you like.. and use it very often.
Custom Roms are for everybody and each chef has his own kitchen.. and receipe. Someone goes for speed the other for stability.. and some other chef again for a better layout.
I agree sometimes it is difiicullt to see what features are added and to compare which rom suites your needs best, but you could filter it all for you self. Select all Roms that have your interest and filter down to 2 or 3 Roms... then flash those 2 or 3 roms and try them for a few days. You will able to tell which one is best for you
It's up to you which one you choose.. so for lazy people who do not want to search.. stick to the shipped Roms

Bouloama said:
Just do some more research and find what you like.. and use it very often.
Custom Roms are for everybody and each chef has his own kitchen.. and receipe. Someone goes for speed the other for stability.. and some other chef again for a better layout.
I agree sometimes it is difiicullt to see what features are added and to compare which rom suites your needs best, but you could filter it all for you self. Select all Roms that have your interest and filter down to 2 or 3 Roms... then flash those 2 or 3 roms and try them for a few days. You will able to tell which one is best for you
It's up to you which one you choose.. so for lazy people who do not want to search.. stick to the shipped Roms
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+1 for this one.
It's ur own thing!

Well, All these roms are the personal preference of the maker with some feedback and input from the users. The only way is to decide is read the descriptions and perhaps see what apps are included and mainly, which version of windows mobile (all 6.5 but some the newer 6.5.3(?) version with the taskbar at the bottom and some fingerfriendly stuff), which version of manilla (2.5.1922 is the newest with a document tab but some bugs), etc.
The rest is just a matter of personal preference and trying.

It has always been like this and it works wonderfully... newbs that come here and say this kind of stuff should first try to understand how this forum works and WHY there are so many roms..

Like i said - i agree on the principle of it - but why not create sub forums with rom versions etc so the layout is easier. Being called a newbie because i havn't posted many threads is rather insulting

I really love the way it is now. It gives you freedom to choose, and make your device more custom. I would however like to see alot of cooks go together and create "the perfect rom".. Some cooks go for stabillty, others for speed, someone for visuals. Combine all those chefs recepies and you would have one fantastic rom i believe

I agree with Da9L!
If you spend more time with xda-devs you will see a structure. If i need a WM 6.5.3 ROM i search only for the Sys.Build (28xxx). Very easy.

1. I like having the choice between many different ROMs..you simply have to see what fits your needs the best.
2. Most people stick to their favorite cook because they have similar "taste" and usually you stick with it.
we have many 5-star cooks here and its hard to single out ONE great ROM. There is no universal solution so take a close look at the ROM description and see whats added and removed, look at the bugs and changelogs, the builds and decide if it might be your taste.

i love changing roms in search of features speed and new layouts.. but i always forget which rom was on which version when i last tried it . and now especially with new and different versions of manila and htcsense it is getting a bit of confusing...
I wish if there is a single chart of all roms where they keep atleast some basic information...
like
Name of ROM -- LAST UPDATED-- OS VERSION-- MANILA Version -- Changelog etc
something like this (except its for ANDROID ROMS)
http://db.androidspin.com/android_build_information.asp
tell me what you guys think of this....

Variety
That's like walking into a restaurant and saying, 'why all the different meals?' Or a bar and, why all the different girls? Or why all the different cars? It's the whole point of this site. Viva la difference!

Xaddict said:
That's like walking into a restaurant and saying, 'why all the different meals?' Or a bar and, why all the different girls? Or why all the different cars? It's the whole point of this site. Viva la difference!
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True...
But with a menu, you have categories. "Main meals" (full featured rom?) "starters" (clean rom without manila or any addons?)

You just have to have a look at this forum
TheDynamo said:
My understanding is that a cooked rom is a rom that has lots of bit's taken out and then cabs etc put back to make the HD2 run with better performance etc.
But there are so many roms on here, that it has become confusing as to which rom to put on my device. Also what happens when a new legit rom from HTC comes out - doesnt that mean that all the cooking starts again and we end up with thousands of roms?
I would have thought that the additional software installations after installing a new ROM to get the phone in a decent state would put most people off lol.
This is not a dig btw - i have installed a cooked rom, but i think the forum needs to be maybe reshaped a little more i.e. another category with each rom version.
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You just had to read and learn

the thread title is very misleading based on what the TS has to say
in any case, the current layout is fine. i do not think it is very "efficient" to keep going down sub-menus

It would be nice to have a XDA market were al ROMS and stuff can be rated, that would certainly sort things out

Personally I wish there were more ROMs! Like someone said, this is how its always been, this is how it is, and this is how it will always be.
It would be good if the chefs stuck to the official thread naming scheme.
I was gonna provide a link to it, but cant find it now

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It would be nice to have a XDA market were al ROMS and stuff can be rated, that would certainly sort things out
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The only one that can rate the best rom for you is you

What might be the case
Many of the ROM's have no layout customizations and vary
often only a little in included applications, tweaks/driver patches.
If a new user installs a couple of ROM's , chances
are differences aren't all that big, and the question arises, what's the point ?
If one looks at the older devices, one can see an almost vulgair
choice of styled, tweaked and pimped beyond recognition ROM's.
I mean the ROM's where you open the default games folder and there's 10 games, 19 great themes to choose from, 6 clocks, and what's more.
The fact those ROM's aren't available (yet) could be strange to people relatively new to XDA.
Maybe it's something all different
Edit : forgot to mention Xanitechs Pandora ROM which has "styling" (works like a charm for me)

!!!List of ROMs!!!

Sorry I am new to the whole Phone based world as last phone I had was a Moto Razor as a *nix dev I like things compiled in simple tree. So I was wondering is there a place where I can view the top cooked ROMs with its pro/con's comparing it to others? Searching is pointless as I have no idea what it means and I see so many same posts.
ATM I am using the TmoHD2 with standard ROM. Its tweaked to the max but I hit the limitation of it as most things I want to remove is stored in ROM and can't delete it. So looking for a clean ROM if anyone have suggestion as I am sure many have tried other ROMs please name few for example like linux distro, thanks.

Your really not going to find anything like that. You can find plenty of threads where somebody asks for " what is the best ROM " or something along those lines and you will find that they are all filled with the same type of post. Everybody has a different idea as to what is the best ROM o the cleanest ROM.
Your best bet would be to start reading learning the flash process and start flashing till you find what you like. Or you could start reading on how to cook a ROM and make your own using somebodies kitchen.

For now I am still a virgin in the Phone world it won't take me long before I jump in this bandwagon if I have the time that is, ATM I am busy with our own CVS only reason I got the HD2 is to view source code for our current project as it would be accessible from any where. Also my own P2P client has me pined down thats another convo for another forum, so ya.
I understand as I seen for myself the mess in Rom Dev thread there is so many I was just hopping few people here has at least tried few and can agree on. I don't have the time to play with HD2 ATM as this is the only WinOS I used let it be WinMO 6.5 if it was up to me I would already went on and deployed a linux distro on it but ATM I am not up for that as its a new world for me.

i use energy as there loaded with loads of tweaks programs i like and setup nicley, there is Duttys his are pretty stock, ligh and fast, Miri are good, it depends what you want really there all built up for specific reasons, so take ya pic

Oh I understand the whole to busy thing. I currently use NRG's ROM as well , always seems to do what I want with no issues.
As for linux on the HD2 good luck with that one. There are several Devs currently working on getting Android running on the HD2's hardware. Since Android is based on linux you would run into the same issues they are having, getting the software to run on the new SnapDragon processor.

I appreciate it is a pretty hefty time commitment but for the uninitiated (holds up his hand) it would be really useful to have a list of the main custom roms with a few lines giving a very brief summary of the selling points of that Cooked ROM.
This would allow us to scan down for the things that might interest us and go to the appropriate threads to read further to decide.
As it is, it is rather overwhelming to try to plow through all the threads in the cooked rom section.
For example some might want a similar-to-stock but with better radio functions, faster and stable.
Others whilst prefer ones with lots of flashy things cooked in etc

Well you can feel free to start this thread you so desperately need. As well as keep up on it. The thing is that new ROMs are coming out daily and trying to keep an on going list of these new ROMs would get old fast. Usually each ROM builder will ist what he was trying to accomplish inside of his thread with in the first post. Most will same the same thing. They were going for a fast and stable build.
Like I said before about the only thing you can really do is look over the ROM choose whether you think it is right for you and flash it. Give it a test drive, if it works for what you want great if not onto the next one. Sorry this is not the answer your looking for but unless you want to step up and start making the list then it's not going to happen.

i was after something similar.
I am in need of a cooked rom as i have less than 2mb spare on my phone so need one. However, i have no idea which one to pick.
So if there was a thread with a real brief description of the pro's-cons of each cooked rom that would be a god send.
Please?

Wil Badger said:
Well you can feel free to start this thread you so desperately need. As well as keep up on it.
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There was surely no need to be so arsey about this matter was there?

Ya well sorry if I offended anybody but I'm sure most here would agree with me. It's not hard to read the first few lines of a ROM thread to see if it's right for you. If it's not after you flash it move on to the next one. Ya it sucks having to flash a couple to find the right one but that's the way it is. Keeping up on a list would be a pain in the ass. I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded.

Wil Badger said:
Ya well sorry if I offended anybody but I'm sure most here would agree with me. It's not hard to read the first few lines of a ROM thread to see if it's right for you. If it's not after you flash it move on to the next one. Ya it sucks having to flash a couple to find the right one but that's the way it is. Keeping up on a list would be a pain in the ass. I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded.
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tbh mate maybe this is my noobish? But for me it is the fear factor of having never done it before and the fear of 'will i brick the phone'. So the thought of having to do it several times is not something i am keen to do. Maybe after i have done one i will be more laissez faire about the whole idea? but atm i want to do it once and once only.
i dont know the real differences between the roms? Is it really just programmes loaded on them? If it is then what is the quickest and stablest rom?

From what I see most all cook from the same files. Sure some tweak the reg settings a bit here and there while some might not. But for the most part they all do their little thing to make it theirs in some way. Themes that are load, programs that are loaded, and different sms clients. But like I said they pretty much all list their little tweaks in the first few posts, what they have preloaded,etc,etc......
As long as you follow the guides flashing is a simple affair and trust me you will have to reflash several times since going to a custom ROM will usually bring it's own set of problems. And because of this the ROM builders are always updating the builds. Whether it be because a new build version of Windows came out, or they feel some reg edits really make no difference, to change up the preloaded apps to newer build versions. It's on going. Welcome to the world of windows and the ever changing progress.
Now are you starting to understand why a list would be of no use. It would only link to a ROM that would most likely not even be close to what was originally posted upon. Things are always changing and to keep up with that would just be to much. So you flash till you find what you like and you stick with him for awhile or if the ROM works for you maybe you leave it for a bit. But at some point you will come back full circle and you will be looking for something better.
Like most I run NRG roms and have for some time. Sometimes I'll go a month or so with the same build while the ROMs build might have been updated once or twice. So you roll the dice back up the stuff you need and flash to the newest one it could be faster it could have more bugs. You will never know till you try it. If it doesn't work out try another ROM from another builder. No that wasn't it either ok flash back to the last ROM that served you well restore the file you need. Stick with it again for awhile till the urge hits you to try something new.

Ok guys we all knew this was gonna happen j\k
"Best Rom" Threads never last long So it is time to close this one as well.
Here is the best advise I can give you. It envolves alot of reading, Most roms have a list of issues if any in the first few posts. So read over them and then find one that sounds good and give it a go. As far a bricking your device, yes the chance is there but they are slim as long as you read. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions.

[Q] Best WP7 Rom for HD2???

Hi guys there's been a lot of movement in WP7 development for the HD2, I just wonder which is the best WP7 rom, that you guys have tried.
Thanks for your feedback.

I tried some custom ROMs. My favorite is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078. really a top Rom, fast, no bugs found, and all were detected sd cards

It's honestly tiring reading these posts, why don't you just simply try out each rom and judge for yourself which is the best for you?
I'm not bagging on you but is it too much trouble to use 2-3 minute to flash a new rom? Find one out there that you think suits you the best because everybody has a personal preference.

Sorry bazinga I just think that it takes 2-3 minutes plus a little more time to really evaluate the features of a rom, you know, battery drainage, wi-fi, among others, that’s why I’m asking to the people of this awesome forum to help me with their experiences. That's all.

peavy00 said:
Sorry bazinga I just think that it takes 2-3 minutes plus a little more time to really evaluate the features of a rom, you know, battery drainage, wi-fi, among others, that’s why I’m asking to the people of this awesome forum to help me with their experiences. That's all.
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Oh in that case, I personally use Football's WP7 Rom.
With the battery registry tweak and using the 2.12 radio (on the TMOUS HD2), I've been getting pretty decent battery life, somewhere around ~60% after moderate use over 12 hours. The Wi-fi works flawless as it can connect to both secure and open networks. Phone and SMS works as usual and the zune integration is such a nice feature. Get an activation from M$ to start using all live features.
I haven't switched to other roms, although at least 4 have popped up this week, because there simply isn't a way to backup/restore SMS and other apps after flashing a rom. For you, you should check out the other ones but for now, I'll stick to Football's rom. No problems for me

I've tried a couple roms, but to be honest, they're all pretty much the same. There's not much to be changed in wp7 yet, and all the custom roms have the same tweaks and fixes done to them. The only one that seems a little different is XBoxmod's rom, as he does some changes to the icons, so I've been sticking with his rom because he seems to know more about the inner workings and tweaks for wp7. He also has a stock version available.
I don't really see the point of all these other people releasing roms that are no different from roms already out except maybe having a different lock screen.... but hopefully as things are learned, the different roms will become more customized.

zarathustrax said:
I've tried a couple roms, but to be honest, they're all pretty much the same. There's not much to be changed in wp7 yet, and all the custom roms have the same tweaks and fixes done to them. The only one that seems a little different is XBoxmod's rom, as he does some changes to the icons, so I've been sticking with his rom because he seems to know more about the inner workings and tweaks for wp7. He also has a stock version available.
I don't really see the point of all these other people releasing roms that are no different from roms already out except maybe having a different lock screen.... but hopefully as things are learned, the different roms will become more customized.
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i agree

Thank you so much guys for your fast and useful response, now I have a clearer view about the WP7 roms for the HD2.
Thanks again .

I've tried quite a few and currently running one (HD7 T3982 or something) which is pretty good, the builtin jailbreak helps as Chevron no longer works on the cpotulla nand...having said that, the original is much faster and to my eyes, has supoerior colours, might be first love syndrome.-)

peavy00 said:
Hi guys there's been a lot of movement in WP7 development for the HD2, I just wonder which is the best WP7 rom, that you guys have tried.
Thanks for your feedback.
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The best rom ive used so far is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991047
very stable and fast too

Hey I wonder why not many are liking Elminster's BlackSideSeven .. Great Rom .. no bugs .. i havent found one in more than a month's use .. i am using *.7004 version not the *.7008 spoof one..
Regards
Vibhu

Ok, Which one is the best rom in 2012 so far?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=977 look here and first 4 topics.... this is most used ROM's in moment.... differences between is small... only problem can be in incompatibility of sdcard's

You have EU HD2 ? You like apps ? You like stock looks ? Stick with WM6.5...

My two cents.
Let’s imagine you’re like me : you have an EU HD2 with 512 Nand space. You like to download apps; after all, it’s Android, not WM6.5 or WP7. So you’re like me and have around 150 apps on your phone using an ext partition. You also like “stock look”, whether it’s Cyanogen, MIUI or Sense. Also, let’s imagine you’re not a newbie : you know how to handle partition size editing flash.cfg files, how to install various A2SD methods, how to read changelogs and instructions, etc.
You have to agree this is not an excessive profile; just a guy with 512mb Nand, like his apps on EXT and his looks clean…
So, what's your daily stable ROM ? Answer is easy : none.
Since a month or two, Android on HD2 has been going downhill if you consider these points. Let’s “review” ROMS by category (and not ROMS in particular, I don't want to blame in particular)…
- Stock Android/CyanogenMOD :
they used to be great. They still are actually. Fast, stable and editable as you wish. You do have some FC from time to time or need to reboot but that’s ok. Even Hyperdroid now with its CM-based version can be themed to stock. And they got great darktremor A2SD support with a lot of space on NAND and EXT.
Problem ? Since several releases, there is a huge bug (see my sig) that causes incoming calls to be just silent or a “shhhh” whether it's stock or cm. You need to pull out the battery and wait 10 minutes for the reboot. Great when you are waiting an important call. No fixes around, no chefs really caring to fix it either.
A smartphone than can’t be used as a phone is just “smart” and pointless.
- MIUI :
I don’t like it’s Iphoney style but it’s fast, editable and some features are nice.
Problem ? Try to find one with really working A2SD in the long term ! Since SD days, this has been an issue. Whether it is darktremor’s method or A2SDkiller + data2sd installer method, you get either in a bootloop after 5 restarts, either the apps on EXT won’t show, just blank icons. And I tried every MIUI rom out there !
Next !
- Sense :
it used to be slow but stable/working (rafpigna), now it’s fast but buggy. Sense chefs are like kids with the new Sense 3.0. As soon it was released, they rushed into the store leaving behind their previous beloved toys/roms. So instead of a full working old Sense, you get 37 versions of instable 2.1 or highly buggy 3.0, or a mix of both.
Imilkaaa’s ROMs all suffer from a major A2SD bug that leads many apps or games on EXT to FC. And as many recent Sense roms are based of that A2SD method, they all have the same bug. No chefs seems to care about that. Cmylxgo’s ROMS leave not enough space on NAND for apps, etc.
So ? Well Rafpigna 4.0.2, a two months old ROM, still not really optimized is the latest fully stable Sense Rom. Slow but stable.
You see my point. Let’s be clear : I know chefs are working for free, I know they don’t owe us anything; I even donated to several of them.
But my message is : chefs or devs, STOP updating your ROMS daily for matching the latest line of code released and start working on stabilizing your ROM(s). We need our phone to call, to be called and we need our phone to work.
Experimental builds are fine of course but today, they are too many and it has become a nightmare for someone who just wants to have things working. Of course, I could flash two months old ROM for that matter…but I had the naivety to believe that chefs do care about offering a stable experience to the community.
I prey for charnsingh_online call to be heard : we need devs to work on optimizing/stabilizing the experience, not bringing new bugs every day or two.
The solution for now ? Learning to cook my own ROM (I might work on that but I have 0 knowledge and not much time unfortunately) or go back to WM6.5. You can imagine which one I’m considering now.
Please, let this be a discussion and not an trial.

Why didn't you just stick with a build you liked?

OP obviously works at Microsoft.

Hmmm,
well, I´m using still MDJ´s oldfashioned CM7 2.7 (and some fixes from that thread) and don´t know what you´re talking about.
I have a stable, fast, goodlooking and reliable ROM on my HD2.
I love Android

Since you have tested/used enough Android ROMS and your knowledge seems extended as I can see, you must have concluded to the fact that WM6.5 is a joke...
The solution for now is to stick to the ROM that works for you best, either it is NAND, RAM or SD. And since you're satisfied with it, don't flash every other day a different ROM. This way you don't have the time to actually 'use' the phone and appreciate its huge capabilities.
I was a WM user since 2004 with Windows Mobile 2003 SE, so I am happy I have gotten rid of them.

thinking the same thing...
A lot of roms but not one which is just stock and clean. (except typhoon, but which suffers by bugs too).
Don't understand why everybody just must "tweak" their roms so madly...

I see your points and obviously I could stick with a ROM that used to work and I will probably. I spent part of the day flashing all the ROMS from the Nand section's first page and I will now spent the rest of the day flashing old ROMS to remember the ones that were doing it for me.
Don't get me wrong : I'm ok with things not running perfectly. It's Android on a non-native Android device after all. But I'm frustrated to see the general level of stability/usability going down and even to loose some features !
Ex : if you want recent and fully working stock Sense with enough space for apps, your only choice is imilka's Incredible Sense with its major a2sd and wifi connectivity bugs. CoreDroid is heavily themed and Cmylxgo doesn't leave enough space for apps.
And while I could revert to rafpigna outdated but stable work, it's hard to do so when you tasted the speed of the latest build.
I have the impression that some chiefs just "hit and run" : "Bam, here's the newest features ! Don't ask for support and see you in two weeks for more new features and news bugs !" I'm joking...
I guess I should start learning how to **** ROMS. I've spent my day messing around with .zips content, I might take the big plunge...

Maybe you'd like to try Typhoon CM7 v2.7.6. I was using it for a few months and found absolutely no problem with it. No bugs whatsoever, everything is fast.
I've switched to Lady MIUI now.. Just for a change but it still has some quirks. The CM7 build I've introduced though is really solid, surprised that I didn't have any problem with it.

DannyBiker said:
- MIUI :
I don’t like it’s Iphoney style but it’s fast, editable and some features are nice.
Problem ? Try to find one with really working A2SD in the long term ! Since SD days, this has been an issue. Whether it is darktremor’s method or A2SDkiller + data2sd installer method, you get either in a bootloop after 5 restarts, either the apps on EXT won’t show, just blank icons. And I tried every MIUI rom out there !
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I never used to have a very stable build, until I tried MIUI.
I HATE the iphone look, so I use MIUI, but with Go-Launcher EX.....then it looks nothing like an Iphone and is 100% stable.
To be honest, i'm just VERY VERY greatful that I have been lucky enough to have DEVELOPERS on this site, who work their asses off and give us all these lovely ROMS and greatful that they have enabled us to have Android.
Otherwise, most of us would have got rid of or HD2 by now.
Can you imagine how much it would cost if one of us approached a developer not a member of these forums and asked him to build a ROM for us.
How many hundreds of dollars would that cost - scary!
If it wasn't for Devs working their butts off, mostly for free, apart from donations, then this subject wouldn't even exist.
OK, you said "you like apps stick with WM6.5"
Right, here is a list of just a few apps I have on my phone.
If you can provide me with a link to a site where an equivalent app exists on windows mobile 6.5, then, well....we'll see.
1: Swarm Torrent
2: Battery Left Pro
3: Fast Burst Camera
4: Talking Tom Cat
5: Sheriff Droid
6: Appmonster Pro
Awaiting your reply......

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Since you have tested/used enough Android ROMS and your knowledge seems extended as I can see, you must have concluded to the fact that WM6.5 is a joke...
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WRONG....Windows Mobile is a F**King Joke...lol
matt

i use motoman mytouch4g for daily usage and it very stable and i like it
i also love to try others roms
lately i tested new bulid of wp7
had bad experience with it ie luncking taking long time
connect to marketplace too running camera twice in a row dont boost the time that take it to load so i backed to android

Switching to Android

Aaaah I hear you say, another one, it's about time, welcome to the dark side, etc etc... Yeah yeah I know, it's about time I went from WM6.5 to Android.
Reasons why I stayed with Windows ? I liked the sync between MsOutlook and my device using USB and NOT "the cloud". Sadly the new versions of Windows (7 and 8) don't allow this anymore so I reluctantly joined "the cloud" (Google Apps for Education, it's free).
Now, I am ready to switch to Android, but, ... which version ? which ROM ? how does it install ? straightfoward ?
Can anyone recommend a good ROM that :
- contains HTC Sense
- is fast
- is easy to install (go easy guys, I work, live and breathe Msoft, it's my job, yeah I know, but it pays the bills)
- is in English
- is up-to-date
- is free
Thanks very much.
PS : I'd rather keep my history (SMS mostly) as they contain a lot of info, so far I've used PPCPimBackup, does that work cross-platform ?
Boags.

if you still want to keep WM you can boot Android within it, there are many tutorials around here, also be careful if your using a tmobile verions a wrong radio culd brick your phone.
here's one that you could try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
or check out the links below if you want to even multi boot your phone

mengfei said:
if you still want to keep WM you can boot Android within it, there are many tutorials around here, also be careful if your using a tmobile verions a wrong radio culd brick your phone.
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Thanks, I'm happy just formatting WM6, no dual boot.
It's not a Tmobile it was bought without a plan or anything so I'm pretty free in that regard.
Any suggestion for a "clean install" ROM ?

I'm pretty sure nobody's thinking 'it's about time, welcome to the dark side' but more along the lines of 'oh FFS, another thread asking about the best ROM and how to install it'. If you'd have searched, you'd have found a few hundred threads exactly like this, and multiple guides on installing Android.
Anyway, try the guide in my sig for an easy installation process (also read the new user guide too). Nobody can tell you the best ROM (that's entirely subjective) or a 'fast' Sense based ROM (well at least not in my opinion).

Boags said:
- contains HTC Sense
- is fast
PS : I'd rather keep my history (SMS mostly) as they contain a lot of info, so far I've used PPCPimBackup, does that work cross-platform ?
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AFAIK Sense is a bit slow in Android on the HD2, and other options are better, try them and judge for yourself.
As for SMS, this is what I used when I made the switch long time ago, and it worked smoothly.
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
Good luck

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I'm pretty sure nobody's thinking 'it's about time, welcome to the dark side' but more along the lines of 'oh FFS, another thread asking about the best ROM and how to install it'. If you'd have searched, you'd have found a few hundred threads exactly like this, and multiple guides on installing Android.
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Right, no need to be rude, I'm sure you've never asked a previously answered question in your life...
Nigeldg said:
Anyway, try the guide in my sig for an easy installation process (also read the new user guide too). Nobody can tell you the best ROM (that's entirely subjective) or a 'fast' Sense based ROM (well at least not in my opinion).
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Thanks, I'll read all that material.

AthenaLod said:
AFAIK Sense is a bit slow in Android on the HD2, and other options are better, try them and judge for yourself.
As for SMS, this is what I used when I made the switch long time ago, and it worked smoothly.
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
Good luck
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Aah, thanks for that constructive input, I thought Sense was HTC's best stuff, I'll try your ROM and let you know.:good:
Boags.

If you want a rom you can customize visually, try MIUI. It has a tons of themes so you won't get bored easily, it even has an HTC sense theme. If not try one of the CM builds. Gingerbread roms are more stable but if you want the newer android features like Google Now and some new apps do require ICS+ go for one of the ICS or Jellybean builds. If i were you i'd just try a few roms before completely settling on one and installing all your data etc.

OKay thank you both for your help. I managed to install "Nexus JellyBean" on my HD2... It wasn't as straightforward as I'd hope (there are a lot of prerequisites to Android, it's not just next-next-next you're done but anyways).
So yeah it runs, everything works, but there's a bit "but". It's slow as hell. And I mean sluggishly slow. I've only connected to Gmail, Hotmail and Facebook. Nothing else. No GPS, no WiFi, nothing.
A test : on the main screen, open Gmail. Wait for four seconds for the emails to be displayed. Close Gmail (there is no "close" application in fact, once it's opened, it stays as an open process and runs in the background). Open "Internet" and wait for ten seconds for google.com to be opened (either on Wifi or on 3G). Go back to the main screen takes forever again, then open Gmail again, wait for another five seconds, etc etc etc.
Seriously, it's bloody awful.
So, maybe it's because the HD2 wasn't meant to run on Android and I'd be better off with WM65, or maybe this build of Android isn't the fastest I can find, but then, can anyone tell me what build I should be running ? There seems to be so freaking many available it's no wonder "noobs" like me ask silly questions "which is best"..
I just booted the HD2, went to Settings/Apps/RAM : 235used and 174free... And I haven't even started using any apps...
So far then, not convinced...

I won't get into the details bec theres already tons of threads about it but
Have you flashed a new radio that unlocks the HD2 ram to 512mb?
As I said, Gingerbread roms are the most stable and fastest so I suggest you go for one of them. ICS & Jelly roms aren't 100% there yet.
I'd suggest installing on nand with data on EXT partition if your SD card isn't that fast.

Txs, i don't know, I thought I had it flashed under WM65 :
NexusHD2
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14
Kernel 2.6.32.tytung_jellybean_r1
CPU ARMv7
Mem 410mb
Cyanogen 10.0.0-leo
Build date 07/12/2012
Build nr JZ054K (NexusHD2-JellyBean v1.3a) [DataOnExt]
None of these mean much to me, I'm still learning

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I won't get into the details bec theres already tons of threads about it but
Have you flashed a new radio that unlocks the HD2 ram to 512mb?
As I said, Gingerbread roms are the most stable and fastest so I suggest you go for one of them. ICS & Jelly roms aren't 100% there yet.
I'd suggest installing on nand with data on EXT partition if your SD card isn't that fast.
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1. He must have a .50 radio if he's successfully running NAND Android.
2. It unlocks 576MB of RAM, not 512.
@OP, Either go for GB or basically learn to live with it if you want the latest and greatest Android version. GB will be faster and more stable for daily use BUT won't have HWA so you won't have anywhere near as smooth an experience in web browsing and gaming. For your own sake don't go for a Sense ROM, they're just as 'slow' as JB or ICS. MIUI and CM7 are both great, I personally prefer CM but it's really down to your preference. Try them both then make a decision. CM has less eye candy and is far less iOS like but both are fast.

Okay thanks, slowly learning the "language"
Currently dowloading "Gingerbread" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060) and wiping "JellyBean"... (the guy who finds these names should get a job at the place where they name tropical cyclones:laugh
Keep you posted.

If you need any help with 'learning the language' check the guide in my sig which says 'A guide to all of the terms for the HD2'. It makes things pretty simple, and definitely helped me quite a lot the first time round.

So I "downgraded" from Jellybean to Gingerbread and though it's not superfast it's a lot better.
How can I tell my radio is the version that "unleashes" the max RAM ? I recall it was the latest available on WM65...
Any "tweaks" to make it faster ? A few apps often hang for a couple of seconds before they're available...
Still, it's a pretty cool platform I must agree, a shame Msoft never could be as good. Haven't seen the new WM though...
Thanks for all your help, and have a great 2013 !:good:

Don't worry, you definitely have a compatible radio version. The guy who posted about the RAM thing earlier was basically just spamming for 10 posts.
Not to confuse you, but if you want speed, stability and functionality and don't use many apps then Windows Phone may actually be the way to go. There are obviously some apps which simply aren't available on Windows Phone yet including huge ones like Instagram and (I think) Temple Run but the OS is really wonderful to use and beats Android in terms of fluidity.
Anyway, congrats on flashing and sorry about the rudeness of my first post in this thread

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Don't worry, you definitely have a compatible radio version. The guy who posted about the RAM thing earlier was basically just spamming for 10 posts.
Not to confuse you, but if you want speed, stability and functionality and don't use many apps then Windows Phone may actually be the way to go. There are obviously some apps which simply aren't available on Windows Phone yet including huge ones like Instagram and (I think) Temple Run but the OS is really wonderful to use and beats Android in terms of fluidity.
Anyway, congrats on flashing and sorry about the rudeness of my first post in this thread
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Sweet, so this is as best as it will ever get I suppose. Not a LOT slower than WM65 in reality, just a tad. Loads more potential tho, with the widgets and apps and stuff out there. I'll keep it simple anyways.
Still, you're probably the only person who, though a true Linux-Android fan, has publicly admitted Microsoft does it better, well in some occasions anyways : speed and stability is what most "professional" crowd need (a smartphone that does push-email, sync their contacts database and calendar with whatever server they're using, with the occasional websurfing, facebooking, tweeting or linkedin-ing).
Having worked with Msoft for over 15 years now, I had to try Android to at least understand what the fuss was all about, well I've seen it. I'll keep it for now, but I'm not convinced I won't switch back to WM one day.
I tried NeXTstep and BeOS once, loved them both as they were way ahead of their times, but sadly they could never been used as a professional tool. I think I can say the same for Android...
PS @Nigeldg, don't sweat it bro. No offence taken.

Yeah I think people often make the mistake of assuming that all fans of one thing simply hate the alternative, which often isn't true. Different things suit different people, I'd definitely recommend an iOS or Windows Phone to my Mum for example over an Android phone because they're more simple. I can only really respect someone's opinion when they know that there are always arguments for and against a certain point, if they don't then there's really very little valid input they can make in any discussion.
Also, I don't think you should really judge Android by your experience with the HD2, that would be like making a decision between a PS3 and an Xbox based on having played Viva Pinata on the Xbox and Killzone on the PS3. Android is a very nice OS and you really need the hardware to appreciate it. Having used Android on a GNex and a Nexus 4 (which I'm still waiting to order ) I can safely say it's now as smooth as iOS and Windows Phone if you get a decent phone.

Hi,
why don't you use WM6.x and Android on the same phone (via dualboot/tripleboot/...)? You can use the advantages of both OS and only need to wait 1 min. to boot the other one... see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33988958
I use different Android-Versions, because no version can all I need... and I use WM, because I have some great payed apps... it's great...
Cheers Klaus
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app

I don't want dual boot because I'm not looking for one solution, this exercise was just to test if a) I was able to do it, b) Android has what I need.
The answer is yes for the first questions (with help), but the second question has mixed results. Yes it runs, and yes I can do what I was doing on WM, but nothing more. Which leads me to my next question when I do decide to replace the HD2 by a new phone (because I need 4G and because I like new things, don't we all) : will I buy an Android or a Windows-based phone ?
My next challenge would be to test an iPhone