Before testing galaxy s2 I had galaxy s. I used to test allshare on galaxy s, and it was playing mkv files no problem from my pc. Today I tryed to play mkv on galaxy S2 and it cannot play it!! I didn,t like galaxy s allshare player because it lacked aspect ration etc. But this is insane! It can play 1080p and cannot play same files using allshare, shame on you samsung. Very disappointed, they are ruining such an amazing and powerful device with such things. Doss they even know about this?
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I'm in the same boat as you though what I find more annoying is the fact I can't stream movies from pc to my phone
Has anyone contacted Samsung about these issues?
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Has anyone contacted Samsung about these issues?
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it's easier to complain
I have an 40" led tv from Sony with dlna, and I can't stream any movies from my phone to tv.
I've written a long long letter of complaint to Samsung about this and other dlna issues I had
So now I'm awaiting the answer.
P's. Also included my findings about the computer playback. As the same as you guys had.
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I have an 40" led tv from Sony with dlna, and I can't stream any movies from my phone to tv.
I've written a long long letter of complaint to Samsung about this and other dlna issues I had
So now I'm awaiting the answer.
P's. Also included my findings about the computer playback. As the same as you guys had.
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DLNA is a bit of a farce and one of the areas where Apple has absolutely nailed how it should work with AirPlay. With DLNA, you appear to be entirely at the mercy of the manufacturers regarding what formats you can stream.
I also have a Sony LED TV that supports DLNA. The TV itself is capable of playing AAC audio and H.264 MP4 video files - plug in a USB drive and away you go. However, it will only receive MP3 and MPEG2 streams via DLNA, meaning that half my music collection and all my videos can't be streamed.
Judging by this, there are very few formats that DLNA devices have to support. In fact, MP3 is even listed as one of the "optional" formats. Until the DLNA organisation mandates that commonly used formats such as AAC, MP4 and so on must be natively supported, it's going to continue to be a complete mess.
Incidentally, the link above also states that the transmitting device should transcode media into a format understood by the receiving device if the receiving device doesn't natively understand the format. As impractical as this is to do when the transmitting device is a phone, All Share should be doing this to be completely DLNA compliant.
Philips 32PFL9603 is supporting DLNA but which formats is supporting? Do you know that?
Cmon. Let's contact samsung and tell them to fix and improve their allshare. Right now it is useless.
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never streamed TO the phone, but with SGS i was able to stream FROM the phone without any problems using allshare. with GS2 however, that is not possible for .mkv files, just says unable to play format...
Really happy with allshare.
There is no other app with the same features AFAIK.
I have a server running minidlna and it picks it up quickly and even seeks and resumes media when multitasking.
In my experience other manufacturers dlna implementations are pitiful in comparison. Count yourself really lucky, I do.
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Cmon. Let's contact samsung and tell them to fix and improve their allshare. Right now it is useless.
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never streamed TO the phone, but with SGS i was able to stream FROM the phone without any problems using allshare. with GS2 however, that is not possible for .mkv files, just says unable to play format...
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The "unable to play format" message is because whatever you're streaming to doesn't support the file type. The only thing that Samsung can do is to implement transcoding in AllShare to convert files that are unsupported on the rendering device into one of the base DLNA formats that all DLNA devices must support. This would be very battery intensive on a mobile device, particularly when transcoding HD files.
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Really happy with allshare.
There is no other app with the same features AFAIK.
I have a server running minidlna and it picks it up quickly and even seeks and resumes media when multitasking.
In my experience other manufacturers dlna implementations are pitiful in comparison. Count yourself really lucky, I do.
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I agree with you that AllShare is a pretty nice app to use, but the fact still remains that even with a great front-end on your phone, you can still be hampered by the DLNA implementation on the rendering device (in my case, my TV).
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I agree with you that AllShare is a pretty nice app to use, but the fact still remains that even with a great front-end on your phone, you can still be hampered by the DLNA implementation on the rendering device (in my case, my TV).
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Yes of course, I totally agree. But that's a problem with your TV, allshare cannot do anything to compensate for a poor implementation on the rendering device. Such is the nature of DLNA.
I also agree it should render mkv, my samsung TV does, well if you rename the file to .avi it does.
For an android dlna renderer though it is still unsurpassed.
You people are saying that my tv cannot render mkv? But it can! It rendered the same file with old galaxy s dlna, from flashdrive, from the same dlna server on my pc. So there is samsung galaxy s2 that buggeres around.
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works fine for me ... (720p mkv file, streaming xbmc server)
With my Sony tv(as above post) I was able to stream all known formats, BUT FROM OTHER PHONE AND PC.
So the bad boy is the SGSII...
Still waiting for reply from samsung.
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You people are saying that my tv cannot render mkv? But it can! It rendered the same file with old galaxy s dlna, from flashdrive, from the same dlna server on my pc. So there is samsung galaxy s2 that buggeres around.
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Remember that MKV is just a container format; the video and audio codecs in use can vary from one file to the next and it's possible that only some of those codecs are supported by your TV.
If you're telling me that you can stream a file from your Galaxy S but you can't stream the exact same file from your Galaxy S II then I'd agree that there's an issue with AllShare on the S II.
Also, as I've found out with my TV, there can be differences between what a device can play from a flash drive and what it can play via DLNA!
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Yes of course, I totally agree. But that's a problem with your TV, allshare cannot do anything to compensate for a poor implementation on the rendering device. Such is the nature of DLNA.
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Technically, it could transcode the media, but that's a dumb solution (albeit the only one that fits within the DLNA spec). As for that being the nature of DLNA, you're completely correct, which is why it's so much poorer than AirPlay.
Galaxy S with firmware 2.1 could stream using allshare, after an update it cannot either.
I recorded a video with the SGS2 and was able to stream it to a Sony Bravia TV with AllShare.
A day later I tried the same and the SGS2 said 'file could not be played'.
I found out, the cause for this was the Kies software. It converted all my movies from "video/mp4" to "video/3gpp" automatically. The "video/3gpp" is not supported by my TV so it could not be played.
Try opening a video in the SGS2 standard videoapp and open menu->details
what's under 'format' ?
if it says 3gpp, try converting it back to mp4 (xmediarecode can do this without really recoding everything) and send it again to the tv.
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Really happy with allshare.
There is no other app with the same features AFAIK.
I have a server running minidlna and it picks it up quickly and even seeks and resumes media when multitasking.
In my experience other manufacturers dlna implementations are pitiful in comparison. Count yourself really lucky, I do.
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How nice for you not a usefull post on this topic at al.... and does mkv work via for you on your SGS2(Samsung Galaxy S 2) without atleast that much info your post is useless
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Will nexus s have Divx support is know you can use rock player and stuff but I think on the galaxy s line phones All run 720p Divx formats far better than rock player.... what do you guys think?
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I hope so but I doubt it. Nexus One can't do it.
i really hope sou. That is my main selling point. Galaxy s could perfectly play mkv. and divx. in 720p, even with a subtitles. If nexus s cant i would be very disappointed
i dout that will be installed, maybe try to extract that that from Galaxy s?
Will probably need the whole touchwiz framework along with the corresponding apps (video player, divx etc) for it to work. Haven't tried CM 6.1 Beta 3 for my i9000, but from what I've heard, it doesn't work on there.
I don't see why it wouldnt. The other 9000 galaxy s variants all play it. Why wouldn't this one?
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I don't see why it wouldnt. The other 9000 galaxy s variants all play it. Why wouldn't this one?
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Because its pure Google and previous android dont have the proper vid and audio codecs.
But im confused on how codecs work on this phones because I think the galaxy s line are all hard coded were other none supported devices use crappy software acceleration
I'm really hoping its supports all the great codecs the galaxy S line did but im not getting my hopes up. If not this is going to be my first request from developers ill make a hefty donation to get this avi, xvid .mkv and ac3 working again
those codecs were built into the system of the Galaxy S phones.
The Nexus S will not have any of them so we'll be forced to use other apps.
However, with any luck some good developer may be able to hack them out of touchwiz and add them into a custom stock rom, i wouldn't hold my breath though.
Basically your gonna be using rockplayer, or convert your movies to something othe than divx.
Use RockPlayer or VPlayer! Both are good apps, the latter one is free.
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Use RockPlayer or VPlayer! Both are good apps, the latter one is free.
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yeah, but with does two apps everything with a little higher quality is more like a slideshow instead of movie. Only thing they can play are low quality divx. Well, we still have converting but then again whats the purpose of that. We are all trying to avoid converting because its boring and takes time. Comon google, bring some codec support
Yea i used rockplayer back with my N1 garbage only software rendered
better off using handbrake and re-encode to mp4 and use android default player
Galaxy s is hardware rendered and run and look fantastic on SAMOLED esp when running 1280x720 HD avi, mkv files
I can look past everything else taken away but IDK i really like my video support on my vibrant
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That's like the one thing Samsung did right with the software, was include a very good media player.
Can anyone, from those who got one today, confirm if it has DivX or not
I have a Nexus S and I can confirm it has no divx support. I can also confirm that vplayer beta is not supported on the Nexus S and will force close when attempting to open a video file.
Is Rockplayer the only option?
no divx but can it play mkv ?
How does Rockplayer work with HD videos that are not 720P?
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Rockplayer force closes as well with divx.
Rockplayer, vPlayer and all other DIVX players i tested from market are force closing as soon as you try to play a movie file.
Anyone has found a solution to play all the media files(mkv, divx) on the Nexus S? RockPlayer & VPlayer both don't work. I think they need to update the app for 2.3..
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I'm still entertaining picking this up instead of the Asus Transformer but I saw two things recently on a video that discouraged me.
1) Local HD Video
I've heard MoboPlayer can tackle most formats so that helps a bit, but what is HD playback like on the device? Does it stutter? Does it have a hard time playing anything 720P or perhaps just 1080P.
For some reason, the lady had a really hard time playing 1080P on this thing.
2) Clear.Fi
I haven't seen a review that actually covered this feature. This is so important to me. I sold my iPad because I wasn't happy with it. I loved Cydia and having XBMC on it though because I could pretty much watch anything.
I was hoping Clear.Fi was going to make me forget about XBMC but I haven't seen any videos on Youtube or heard people discuss Clear.Fi too well.
What's your experience been like? Do you have problems streaming specific types of files? Does it convert on the fly or does it only stream specific file types?
I'm still considering buying the A500, one of the points I had noticed was a statement from Acer that 1080p playback on the device will be available via a future update. If I recall it's due June/July
Thanks. I appreciate the heads up.
to OP.....Yes no one has touched base on the clear.fi features but from my experience just mp4 files.......and it streams over your wifi network so there isn't any converting on the fly since it only plays mp4's but it will see avi's and wmv's but will not play it ....it says cannot play format unknown hopefully when rom developement progress may some how we would be able to watch other formats like video codec installs but it kinda sucks because all my vids need to be converted to work which is sad lol
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to OP.....Yes no one has touched base on the clear.fi features but from my experience just mp4 files.......and it streams over your wifi network so there isn't any converting on the fly since it only plays mp4's but it will see avi's and wmv's but will not play it ....it says cannot play format unknown hopefully when rom developement progress may some how we would be able to watch other formats like video codec installs but it kinda sucks because all my vids need to be converted to work which is sad lol
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Same here, and I am NOT coverting 3tb's of TV shows and movies. Not gonna happen.
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Have you guys tried streaming with the help of a File Explorer and a video player like MoboPlayer.
I remember I was able to use the File Explorer on the Gtab to find videos on the network and then watch them with my choice of app.
Clear.fi is just a transport as far as I know. In essence, it's an app like upnp that sees shared compatible media across your network. It then allows you to use a media player on the device to view the file.
So for example, if you have Windows 7, media sharing enabled and put videos into your Windows 7 Video library, music in your Music library and Photos in your Pictures library, clear.fi will detect it all over your wifi network.
Because of this, I don't think it has any hard limits as far as what clear.fi will play as it depends 100% on what your tablet hardware and software will play. For now, that's just mp4s using a certain profile when it comes to videos. Some mkvs will play too as those are just wrappers. I've also seen a thread where someone has claimed to play some realplayer files I think. I myself have played mp4s that are smooth as silk in both 480 and 720p and I have had others that were extremely jerky. This has to do with profiles which I don't have the details on. I can tell you what I THINK it means, which is that mp4s come in several "parts" and that the newest one which compresses the most data is referred to as h264 which the device can't seem to play well at all. I converted a 720p movie and left everything in tact except for specifying the resolution needing to be up to 1280x800 and for it to be in MP4 format and it played flawlessly. I use a program called Freemake. I haven't attempted to convert any 1080p.
I have an intel quad core 6600 with 8GB of RAM and that took 40m so there's no way I'm converting my entire library however it's no problem converting a few movies and maybe a season or 2 of TV in prep to hit a roadtrip or do some sort of travel. I also have an Amazon Prime and Crunchyroll membership so I don't even really need to do any of this.
This isn't a brand limitation afaik, it is due to Honeycomb and Tegra 2. We know Tegra 2's hardware can support a myriad of formats, but we don't know if Nvidia has released a full Honeycomb dev kit yet and since Honeycomb isn't open like Froyo and GB, I'm not sure if it will be indicated on Nvidias site when it is released - for all we know it's already in the various tablet manuf. hands so we just have to be patient. So far the promises for updates in June by both Acer and Asus have me hoping that the 1080p upgrade is a sign of more supported formats and some fixes as well.
Yeah I've been having major problems getting HD files to play at all- converted 480p movie to mp4 had no problems, but can't get the same converter app to spit out a 720p to mp4 file except in mkv container format. Keeps insisting on 4:3 ratio on mp4 files. Once I get it figured out (if I do lol) I'll post the app & settings
Every Tegra2 device has problems with 1080p, 720p and anything encoded with h264 with main profile and high profile (so with almost any HD video out there). So it's a problem on A500 but also on Xoom, Trasnformer and other tablets too unfortunately.
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Every Tegra2 device has problems with 1080p, 720p and anything encoded with h264 with main profile and high profile (so with almost any HD video out there). So it's a problem on A500 but also on Xoom, Trasnformer and other tablets too unfortunately.
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Not every Tegra 2 device, every Tegra 2 device with Honeycomb.
Tegra 2 has been out since last year and a number of the ones shipped with Android 2.2 don't have an issue playing HD video in any format. For example, this is what the GTablet by Viewsonic supported:
S1080p H.264/H.263/ VC-1/MPEG-2/4/WMV9/DiVX 4/5 Video Decode
1080p H.264/MPEG-4 Video Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
Mind you, I don't know if the native resolution has anything to do with it as that has a 1024x600 resolution, I do know that it played 95% more files than my Iconia does.
Do you reckon the stuttering will be fixed with an update, and when do they usually come out?
I have been doing this to help stream content and it works like a charm.
1. Download UPNPlay from the market
2. Download Rock player from their web site (the one optimized for the tegra 2)
UPNPlay detects your server and will allow you to browse your contents and will play the video with Rock player. since Rock player supports a slew of codecs you should never have a problem playing anything. I even threw a .OGG file at it and the tablet played it with no problem. Also note that the quality (lag) of streaming HD content depends primarily on your home network.
The Clear.fi app sucks...
Enjoy streaming your content.
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I have been doing this to help stream content and it works like a charm.
1. Download UPNPlay from the market
2. Download Rock player from their web site (the one optimized for the tegra 2)
UPNPlay detects your server and will allow you to browse your contents and will play the video with Rock player. since Rock player supports a slew of codecs you should never have a problem playing anything. I even threw a .OGG file at it and the tablet played it with no problem. Also note that the quality (lag) of streaming HD content depends primarily on your home network.
The Clear.fi app sucks...
Enjoy streaming your content.
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Thanks man. You saved me $5. I was about to buy PLEX because that would take care of most format issues but I'll try this first. Appreciate it!!!
* Just tried it. Worked like a charm. I enjoy being able to pick from all the video players I've got installed but everything on my server is playing easily! Thanks again.
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I have been doing this to help stream content and it works like a charm.
1. Download UPNPlay from the market
2. Download Rock player from their web site (the one optimized for the tegra 2)
UPNPlay detects your server and will allow you to browse your contents and will play the video with Rock player. since Rock player supports a slew of codecs you should never have a problem playing anything. I even threw a .OGG file at it and the tablet played it with no problem. Also note that the quality (lag) of streaming HD content depends primarily on your home network.
The Clear.fi app sucks...
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You still cant play mkv h.264 right? From what I have read on xoom and gtab forum its a hardware issue and not software.
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You still cant play mkv h.264 right? From what I have read on xoom and gtab forum its a hardware issue and not software.
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Yeah I play mkv with no problem using this method. The problem is with honeycomb not with the hardware. Try it out and let me know if it works. Its been working for me.
I would agree on clear.fi sucking. I've been using Skifta with the standard WMP12 media sharing in W7 and it works great.
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Yeah I play mkv with no problem using this method. The problem is with honeycomb not with the hardware. Try it out and let me know if it works. Its been working for me.
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Its a hardware issue and every tegra 2 device has this issue. You source is not hd 720p if you can play it. Tegra 2 can only play substandard H.264 baseline profile videos and its still choppy. Most people are using MPEG4 to get reliable play back with tegra 2. Read any of the xoom & Toshiba tab forums.
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Its a hardware issue and every tegra 2 device has this issue. You source is not hd 720p if you can play it. Tegra 2 can only play substandard H.264 baseline profile videos and its still choppy. Most people are using MPEG4 to get reliable play back with tegra 2. Read any of the xoom & Toshiba tab forums.
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I actually went to edit the post about it not being a hardware issue as soon as I posted it but couldn't because I had to wait due to me being new to the forum. I didn't have the proper information to make such a claim... Either way I have not ran across a video that I wanted to watch that I couldn't. I have been mostly watching anime on it (hi rez MKV) but I will try out an hd movie when I get home and report back.
so is it a hardware or software is that the device can't play back movies smoothly and can it be fixed?
ok so I checked out a few movies yesterday. All movies were in HD. 50% played fine while the other 50% played but with so really bad hiccups. The files I had less issues with were MKV that were displayed at 720 and were a smaller file size (probably not true 720P). 1080 video murdered the tablet lol. I have had 0 problem playing HD anime but again they are smaller file sizes. This method will play all non hd video without a hitch. Hopefully this issue is fixed shortly in the next update but that is me just being hopeful.
Can somebody give a final word on video playback. I intend to watch movies from a portable harddrive and am curious what files have had success, quality, and overall experience with Iconia as a movie player.
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After trying multiple players and a few different file types, the only reliable medium that I've found for playing movies on the A500 is AVI, and something on the order of 1280x540 (or there abouts as depending on the movie, the 1280 is consistent but the 540 varies a bit.) MP4's and MKV's are all stuttering messes with distorted sound.
HC 3.1 looks like it'll fix things a bit coming in June.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVBpeQNWbEQ
Thanks for the info gentleman. I'm buying it anyway and will just convert. Great link.
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So let me get this straight. My Samsung Galaxy S can play anything including .mkv with multiple streams but the Iconia can not? Without conversion even 1080P movies.
I was hoping that a tab with dual core soc and 1GB DD3 ram would play those files without a problem.
What about mobo player?
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So let me get this straight. My Samsung Galaxy S can play anything including .mkv with multiple streams but the Iconia can not? Without conversion even 1080P movies.
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For the most part, the problem here is that Samsung added in additional codec support with hardware acceleration into the Android frameworks, whereas all current Honeycomb devices seem to just support the "core" Android codecs.
I have the same issue in that my single core 7" Galaxy Tab is generally a better video player than my dual core Tegra-powered tablet.
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Dave
Thanks Dave
I wanted to buy a tablet mainly for watching movies, since holding a laptop all that time and during summer isn't the best solution.
Since video playback was superb on the Galaxy devices, does this mean that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will have similar capabilities? Does the GT 10.1v have the same capabilities? If yes then the Galaxy Tab just returned to the no.1 spot on my "tablet to be" list. Too bad it doesn't have all the port on it.
Will go and check the 10.1v forum too.
I have found that "ES File Explorer"'s built in movie player does a great job at .m4v and .mp4 (formatted for the iPad). Smooth playback. Also, "Moboplayer" does a better job than the stock movie player.
My issue is finding a file type my xBox and my DirectV DVR like. I can share the media to both devices, but they don't support the .m4v and .MP4.
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Sutorcen said:
Since video playback was superb on the Galaxy devices, does this mean that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will have similar capabilities? Does the GT 10.1v have the same capabilities?
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As far as I'm aware, the 10.1v, 10.1 and 8.9 Galaxy Tabs are still Tegra-2 based, and have the same limitations as any other Honeycomb Tegra-2 tablet (e.g. Iconia, Transformer, Xoom etc).
That being said, I believe the Froyo-based Viewsonic GTablet is also Tegra-2 based, yet had additional codec support built in to the Android frameworks, so a lot of this is a Honeycomb issue, rather than a Tegra-2 issue.
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I have had some luck using xvid4psp to convert my mkv/mp4/m4v files to baseline 3.1 mp4 files with little to no change in file size (720P is all I've tried so far). Quality is excellent clear.fi finds them locally and on my windows home server.
I'm not a video quality freak, but to my eyes there is no change in video quality. The sound on the other hand was converted from AC3/DTS to AAC so there is audio degradation on the whole, but I'm not someone who cares an awful lot about that either.
I stongly recommend the MoboPlayer. It will download a codec pack after you install it, and after than has been able to play every video file I threw at it. It'll use GPU hardware decoding depending on the codec, or offer to play using software.
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I stongly recommend the MoboPlayer. It will download a codec pack after you install it, and after than has been able to play every video file I threw at it. It'll use GPU hardware decoding depending on the codec, or offer to play using software.
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+1, did exactly the same.............
I'm using Rockplayer as a carry over from my HTC Evo, and it plays everything I've thrown at it. There's a free and donate version. The free version is in the Market.
Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I really love my Tab for web-browsing and gaming, but you have to admit it sucks at video playing. MP4 and 3GP are crappy formats that are hardly used in RL und converting your whole video and movie collection isn't a real option.
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
In theory, the Tegra 2 has more than enough power to play 1080p files, right?
I already tried like 6 different media players but all of them weren't able to play 720p mkvs nice and even non-HD-avi-files felt a little slowed-down.
So can we hope for a hardware-accelerated media player that enables alle the joy of moving pictures for us? Will possibly acer itself help us out on this issue? What are Samsung and Motorola doing on their Gingerbread tablets to enable nice media playing?
Hoping for a better tomorrow
Cheers
pint
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Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
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you sure about that?? my 101 throws a fit with 1080p mkv videos and both use the the firmware.
but i agree, i would love better video support on the iconia, since it runs circles around my archos when it comes to everything else.
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Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I really love my Tab for web-browsing and gaming, but you have to admit it sucks at video playing. MP4 and 3GP are crappy formats that are hardly used in RL und converting your whole video and movie collection isn't a real option.
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
In theory, the Tegra 2 has more than enough power to play 1080p files, right?
I already tried like 6 different media players but all of them weren't able to play 720p mkvs nice and even non-HD-avi-files felt a little slowed-down.
So can we hope for a hardware-accelerated media player that enables alle the joy of moving pictures for us? Will possibly acer itself help us out on this issue? What are Samsung and Motorola doing on their Gingerbread tablets to enable nice media playing?
Hoping for a better tomorrow
Cheers
pint
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Tried VPlayer? it costs like $4/ £2.30 but it can play practically all standards, not sure how it fares for 1080p tho.
I had it playing .avi and .mkv fine though.
Vplayer--
Video formats: divx/xvid, wmv, m4v, flv, rmvb, avi, mkv, mov, mp4, 3gp, ts, tp...
Streaming: http, rtsp, mms and m3u(apple http stream, m3u8)
I use UPnPlay (network streaming) along with MoboPlayer and it has played everything i have on my NAS very well.
Also I know Rockplayer gives you the option of hardware/software decoding so you may want to give that a try if you haven't already. There is a free version.
Both moboplayer and rock player are useless for my 720p and 1080p videos... total stutterfest, but that's a known thing for tegra devices on 3.0...
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Both moboplayer and rock player are useless for my 720p and 1080p videos... total stutterfest, but that's a known thing for tegra devices on 3.0...
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Hmmm... I use moboplayer, and every 720 did I've tried has been great! I haven't tried any 1080p vids though.
tested 1080 quality....the videos lag and the audio missing....
hope acer will figure it out....
Avatar & 10,000 B.C. in 1080P using UPnPlay & MoboPlayer streamed from my WD NAS, looks great. No lagging at all.
not another one of these threads..
edgie168 said:
not another one of these threads..
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Guess what? You aren't being forced to read this thread.
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Guess what? You aren't being forced to read this thread.
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Guess what? It pushes down other, more quality threads.
Guess what? There's already something like 6 or 7 threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE already.
Guess what? People need to learn to use the search function.
Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
^ If you don't like it, report it to a mod and move on...
edgie168 said:
Guess what? It pushes down other, more quality threads.
Guess what? There's already something like 6 or 7 threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE already.
Guess what? People need to learn to use the search function.
Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
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Guess what? You've just caused this thread to get bumped several times.
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I have been trying all the suggested encoders to get smooth playback for film material as 60/50hz works fine. I maybe more sensative to it than others as I tent to look for it on moving objects. But I got it to replace a media player too.
I tried the script posted in another thread with good results but the jump is still there.
Bought DVD Catalist 4 with same results.
Freemake with custom profile same again.
Handbreak I find too slow but I read it works but can't verify it.
Any Video Converter Pro with xoom profile WORKS - it has very little judder but having to strip the subtitles out of the MKV every time is a real pain ( Anyone know how to disable them ) and it's too expensive anyway.
Trying to edit DVD Catalist 4 profile now but no success yet
Oh and I tried Vplayer , Rockplayer , Moboplayer and any others I could find
Hope my two weeks at this helps somone else out.
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With any problem, you need to find its parameters. Only a handful of people notice the "micro-stutter" deal, so it's either a user sensitivity issue, or a tablet-centric issue (which could be hardware or software, user-caused or device defect).
Ask somebody to watch a video clip on your tablet, and ask them if they see anything wrong with playback. Don't tell him beforehand about "micro-stutter", as you don't want to bias his observation.
If he notices the stutter, it's your tablet. If he doesn't, it's you.
If the first, then bring a video clip on a uSD card into a store and try it on other tablets (hopefully with same or similar make as yours). If it doesn't happen on other tabs, then replace your tab. If it happens on every other tab, then again it's you.
If you have heightened sensitivity, then there may be params that can alleviate the issue. The default interleave for MP4Box is 0.5s. You can reduce this interleave, eg
MP4Box -inter 250 -add infile.mp4 -new outfile.mp4
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MP4Box -tight -add infile.mp4 -new outfile.mp4
MP4Box works on MP4 only. Given that MKVs can only play in software mode currently on Teg2 tabs, it's a fool's errand to play MKV and claim that they don't play smoothly. Avail of the native support.
Mobo Player plays my mkv and xvid/divx AVI's just fine. I'm no codec/encoding expert, but from what I've read it's worth re-encoding some of the files to a more manageable bitrate for both audio and video and maybe dump the 5.1 or AC3 audio. I haven't looked at every file I've played, but a couple that would choke on my Win7 Asus netbook, I re-encoded with Handbrake. They still look and sound great.
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Given that MKVs can only play in software mode currently
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I understood that that's the whole point the OP was trying to make: he wishes that someone makes a video player application that can handle MKVs via the hardware decoder. It's not a bad thing to wish for, either; it would provide better performance and hardware playback uses less battery, too.
The question remains: is it possible? As far as I know, the chip itself doesn't get relayed anything more than the actual video stream inside the file, regardless of the container, and thus an app should be able to do exactly that. But since I don't know anything about Android internals are applications given any such access?
My N900 phone uses regular GStreamer stack and thus you can demux anything you want and supply the video stream to the hardware decoder. As long as it's H.264 normal profile and not too high a resolution it'll play, regardless of the originating container.
There's nothing wrong with wishing, but until it happens, we have to use what we've got. For HC, for now that means MP4 for native support.
3.1 thus far has been worse than 2.x insofar as multimedia, probably because vendors have had 2.x for much longer, and were able to add enhanced support. A good case in point is the Samsung GalTab 7 vs the GalTab 10.1. The 7, released last year, can play MKV. The new 10.1 can't. Ditto for all the "my old phone can play MKV, why can't my tablet" complaints. It is what it is.
From all indications, HC was and is a rush job. It had to be pushed out the door because of competition from the iPad. I think the prospective buyer should understand that s/he is buying into a beta, and temper his expectations accordingly. Android has high potential, but now isn't then.
I've written a script that does fast remux/convert to MP4. A straight remux takes a few minutes, and it can process batch. It's a more productive route than wishing for a HW-accel player to come along.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
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It's a more productive route than wishing for a HW-accel player to come along.
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I suppose that's a matter of viewpoint.
I took a look at the MediaPlayer class in Google's APIs and it seems to me that it should be fairly straightforward to demux the MKV file in software on-the-fly, create named pipe with mkfifo and feed the MediaPlayer class the raw video stream via that. Just throw a simple GUI on top of that and you have a rudimentary video player capable of playing MKV files with hardware accelerated video.
I'll try it out once I receive my tablet, was planning to learn Android programming anyways.
PS. Bah, doesn't allow me to post links yet :/
Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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Why?
Anything over 480p will just be scaled down to the 480p display and look, at best, the same as 480p.
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Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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I don't recall any movies or tv's we have is 60fps. Its 29fps and 30fps
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Why?
Anything over 480p will just be scaled down to the 480p display and look, at best, the same as 480p.
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Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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This +10000.
You, sir, are far more eloquent than I could have been at explaining this.
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This +10000.
You, sir, are far more eloquent than I could have been at explaining this.
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there's an app called "Emit" on the market, which has server counterparts that will do server-side on-the-fly transcoding for you. The author posted some stuff about it on reddit and it was generally well received, but I haven't tried it out, really. Free version has ads, paid version doesn't.
I download 1080p content all the time, then stream it to my ps3 with an app or copy it over.
dwallersv said:
Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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And yet, I didn't need to guess about OP's situation. In fact, he said:
RushAOZ said:
Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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...for which my 'why' reply is quite appropriate.
No. He's absolutely right. I just downloaded the video and wantes to watch it. Without downscaling or any of that crap. Sometimes you want to do things the easy way. When you get a gs2, the outcome will be same. Same display resolution. Point is, I wanted to watch a damn video at 1080p lol and the hummingbird cpus in these phones can do it. So, back to the original question. Anyone know how to get this done? Without the trolling please? Lol
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The ipod touch can watch 720p...how come we can't and our OS is owned by the parent company of youtube!!
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My guess is that its disabled to make other phones seem like a better option? Not sure. But its annoying. And these phones are damn capable of it. Considering the power vr540 chip in these phones still kick ass compared to today's standards.
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My guess is that its disabled to make other phones seem like a better option? Not sure. But its annoying. And these phones are damn capable of it. Considering the power vr540 chip in these phones still kick ass compared to today's standards.
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Man, the Epic 4g was gimped from the getgo because of the Evo.
The OG specs for the Galaxy S Pro wouldve stepped all over the EVO. Sprint couldnt have that considering the amount of marketing they put in the evo to just have this random samsung phone come out of nowhere right after they launch their most heavily marketed phone with better specs because then people will be complaining that they paid for the evo and a much better phone comes out right after.
idk. just my theory. i like connecting irrelevant dots
Bump yo
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I think you're going to have to be transcoding. If you got this video off of the web I'm willing to wager you're working with a long GOP codec, which is processor intensive. Add in the scaling required (if it's widescreen the 800px width is the limiting factor, not the 480px height) and you're looking at a fairly serious task.
If it's worth anything I can put 24 cores worth of Intel i7 (48 if you count hyperthreading) one one transcode from one RAID-5 to another RAID-5. If I'm going from a codec that's all I frames (like Animation or ProRes) and go to a long GOP codec (like H.264 or some mpeg variant) with scaling and a mild sharpening it takes about 1/2 of real time. For a mobile to decode a long GOP codec and do a similar scale in real time - what took 24 i7 cores half of real time - impresses me. Somehow the Galaxy S II seems to be able to. Rumour has it the Epic Touch is a few weeks out.
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I think you're going to have to be transcoding. If you got this video off of the web I'm willing to wager you're working with a long GOP codec, which is processor intensive. Add in the scaling required (if it's widescreen the 800px width is the limiting factor, not the 480px height) and you're looking at a fairly serious task.
If it's worth anything I can put 24 cores worth of Intel i7 (48 if you count hyperthreading) one one transcode from one RAID-5 to another RAID-5. If I'm going from a codec that's all I frames (like Animation or ProRes) and go to a long GOP codec (like H.264 or some mpeg variant) with scaling and a mild sharpening it takes about 1/2 of real time. For a mobile to decode a long GOP codec and do a similar scale in real time - what took 24 i7 cores half of real time - impresses me. Somehow the Galaxy S II seems to be able to. Rumour has it the Epic Touch is a few weeks out.
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I'm a giant newb when it cone to decoding and whatnot. Can you simplify that for me please? Lol the video is the battlefield 3 Caspian border gameplay video. I specifically found it at full 1080 at 60fps. Its about 355mb. I tried rock player and software mode was HORRIBLE lmao about 4-6 frames a sec the video was running at lmao
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Have you tried mvideoplayer? Rockplayer only does software decoding. But I don't think it's capable of 1080p60, just 1080p30.
MVideo Player is my pick too. I download tons of anime and it's in 720p and 1080p at times and it somehow magically plays smooth as butter on the Epic with MVideoPlayer and it even shows subtitles correctly with no transcoding. Who has time to transcode stuff ?
I tried mvideoplayer and it won't play that bf3 file lol I think I'm sol. I really want to rip a DVD at full quality to test me screen. Anyone know where I can get some native high quality 720p videos?
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MVideo Player is my pick too. I download tons of anime and it's in 720p and 1080p at times and it somehow magically plays smooth as butter on the Epic with MVideoPlayer and it even shows subtitles correctly with no transcoding. Who has time to transcode stuff ?
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Are you sure it is playing 1080p smoothly? Every time I try a 1080p file, no matter the bitrate it will disable hardware encoding, therefore playing choppy. Some 1080p files play OK, but never at the full framerate, at 1.6ghz it is fairly close, but still not 100%.
So far I've had the best luck with MX Video Player. MVideoPlayer works fine, but does not always display subtitles properly, and won't even play 1080p (Sorry, this video cannot be played) most of the time.
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Are you sure it is playing 1080p smoothly? Every time I try a 1080p file, no matter the bitrate it will disable hardware encoding, therefore playing choppy. Some 1080p files play OK, but never at the full framerate, at 1.6ghz it is fairly close, but still not 100%.
So far I've had the best luck with MX Video Player. MVideoPlayer works fine, but does not always display subtitles properly, and won't even play 1080p (Sorry, this video cannot be played) most of the time.
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I figured I'd revive this thread since a fair amount has changed in the past 14 months. With new (and hopefully better) software decoding files using Android 4.0 and 4.1, 1080p video will at least run on an OG Epic 4G running CM9. However, the frame rate is still laughably low. That said, I was wondering if anyone has come across a configuration (overclocking or otherwise) that allows for a "relatively" smooth 1080p mp4 playback (really, minimal graphics movement, just so long as the audio and video sync). Yes, MX Video Player seems to be the best at running this high-resolution content (having used about 6 video players now), but not even HW+ and/or SW+ decoders can work fast enough.
Any insight is always appreciated.