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[Q] Unroot method for Fascinate

Has anyone come up with an unroot method for the fascinate. I just got one and it really sucks out of the box. I was going to play around with rooting it and see if I can make it fully functional again but I might end up just returning it and getting an incredible. Before rooting it I want to make sure I can go back to stock so it can be returned.

trevoryour said:
Has anyone come up with an unroot method for the fascinate. I just got one and it really sucks out of the box. I was going to play around with rooting it and see if I can make it fully functional again but I might end up just returning it and getting an incredible. Before rooting it I want to make sure I can go back to stock so it can be returned.
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I'm coming from an Incredible and it is true that there is not as much hacks on the Fascinate yet, but there is a lot of activity already:
We have a way to backup and restore:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204
The Fascinate has been rooted (the first day mind you):
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
There is the usual Galaxy S lag fix:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779597
List of crap apps to remove safely:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779948
And the very first custom-ish ROM:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782250
So plenty of action for the first week, I'm sure by the end of the month we will be eating Vanilla Froyo, the best flavor !

Am I wrong for thinking that Unroot = undoing the lag fix, and then just doing a system wipe from the privacy settings?
When I have done this, I have had to re-root the phone each time. So I'm thinking yes.

Daswolven said:
Am I wrong for thinking that Unroot = undoing the lag fix, and then just doing a system wipe from the privacy settings?
When I have done this, I have had to re-root the phone each time. So I'm thinking yes.
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You don't even need to do the system wipe, you can just remove the files you copied over initially. The root process is minimally invasive.
Always undo the lag-fix first.
If a system wipe is easier for you, then un-do the lag fix and wipe the system.

namebrandon said:
You don't even need to do the system wipe, you can just remove the files you copied over initially. The root process is minimally invasive.
Always undo the lag-fix first.
If a system wipe is easier for you, then un-do the lag fix and wipe the system.
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Lol. easy.
Now for a custom recovery. I need nandroid damnit.

Would wiping the phone work if I deleted instead of renaming some of the files on the phone? I deleted a bunch of the bloatware, and hoping that wiping the phone would just undo the root. I didn't do the lag fix. Just the root process and removed applications.

trevoryour said:
Has anyone come up with an unroot method for the fascinate. I just got one and it really sucks out of the box. I was going to play around with rooting it and see if I can make it fully functional again but I might end up just returning it and getting an incredible. Before rooting it I want to make sure I can go back to stock so it can be returned.
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Here's my rooting instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
Yes, it can be unrooted. Do everything in the instructions and it is a much better phone.
EDIT: I also just added a guide to get back to stock.

[Q] Backing up your entire phone

Hello XDA,
After doing some reading, I decided I wanted to back up my entire phone (effectively copy the whole OS as-is) before I start tempering with it (root, ROMs, etc).
But all services I found for this are root-only, and getting root wipes your entire phone.
Do you see my issue here? I really dont want to do anything with it, before I have created a full backup, which I then can restore in case things go bad.
Now my question to you is, Is there any tool that does this WITHOUT tempering with the phone as it is now? So no root, _maybe_ install an app, but nothing that would involve changing the phone as drastically as root does. (I know root isnt considerated drastically, but I'm over-exaggerating to stress the fact I would really like to solve it without that)
Thanks!

LeandroMarceddu said:
Hello XDA,
After doing some reading, I decided I wanted to back up my entire phone (effectively copy the whole OS as-is) before I start tempering with it (root, ROMs, etc).
But all services I found for this are root-only, and getting root wipes your entire phone.
Do you see my issue here? I really dont want to do anything with it, before I have created a full backup, which I then can restore in case things go bad.
Now my question to you is, Is there any tool that does this WITHOUT tempering with the phone as it is now? So no root, _maybe_ install an app, but nothing that would involve changing the phone as drastically as root does. (I know root isnt considerated drastically, but I'm over-exaggerating to stress the fact I would really like to solve it without that)
Thanks!
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people

chrisandchips said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Yep root does not wipe your phone, you can do a nandroid backup and dl titanium backup from market to backup all your apps.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

chrisandchips said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Wow I am 101% I have read it would wipe everything. Thanks for clearing this all out. I'm gonna try this all. I will edit this post when I find the website responsible for giving the false info. Thanks both!
EDIT: lifehacker.com/5563527/back-up-your-entire-android-phone-to-the-cloud
"Then again, to get your phone rooted, you'll need to wipe it entirely, so it's something of a Catch 22. "
Weird, seeing how lifehacker usually is trustworthy.
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Lost Super User again.............

Well with my memory issues and working to solve that I fouled up my CDMA Hero Running Damage Control's last rom. I restored my Nandroid back up and the phone came back but I lost SU again. I have ChainsDD SU and it works really well but once in awhile in the past this has happened and I would go to the Market, uninstall it and install it again and it would work fine again. So this time I went to the market and on my list of apps it wasn't there. Then I went to my Settings>Applications and found the Super User program but there was no provision to uninstall it there. So I went back to the market and tried to install it again but I get an error that the "package was not signed correctly" or something like that. So I try to install another SU program and it won't install as there are compatibility problems. So I'm stuck............. This is the first time this has happened. I even Nandroided way back and still SU doesn't work. With out SU my cache cleaners won't work and with my rapidly dissolving memory I'm going to have a paper weight in a week. The sad thing is with out SU I can't get to Titanium where my back ups live and I'm basically lost. Any ideas short of going to Sprint and buying a newer phone? When this phone is working I love it but when it goes down like this it's just a nightmare to get it working again. I guess I can keep Nandroiding back to this point as it still works. I certainly can get rid of titanium back up and Root Explorer and the Cache Cleaner and My Backup Pro now so I'll gain some memory back from those. Maybe this is not such a bad thing. But it's so sad that these wonderful little devices, when they work are a dream can become such and expensive and gross time consuming nightmare........
Any answers or comments. I'm totally afraid to install a different Rom on this phone now as who knows what nightmares that will bring...........
Thanks for your help...... If there is an answer.

Maybe try to re-root using one of the 1 click methods, this should install a new super user.

First of all, don't fear installing a new ROM. If you liked the DamageControl roms, then you would probably like the current .7 Stock rom by nfinitefx45 that's available in the Development forum. I think you'll find that rom to be just as good as the older damagecontrol with almost all the same stuff, but will be a lot smoother and even more stable. It's basically the Sprint stock rom with some optimizations done to it. I doubt you'll encounter any "nightmares" you seem to be worrying about.
As for your SuperUser problems, search around the forum here for the Superuser.apk, then just 'push' it via adb to /system/app. It's basically the same as installing it, but with adb push you are force installing and overwriting if it already exists, so its basically guaranteed to work.

Dear Mr. Chromiumleaf,
Good suggestion but I'm not that good with the adb. I had it connected to my phone and couldn't maneuver through it. All that would come up is the list of commands. My phone is just stuck in the state it's in now. It works I just don't have SU any more so with out root access I don't need Titanium, My Backup Pro, Cache Cleaner or even Root explorer. I'll free up memory with those gone and my current strategy is when the phone clogs up with no memory I'll just nandroid back to where it was still working. Not a very smooth fix but it's a work around 'till I can upgrade and throw this phone away.
Every time I play with the darn thing I mess it up and loose something else. I got to this place as I was trying to do apps2sd and never accomplished that and lost SU in the process. So when ever I try something it cost me another function on the phone. I have cut three legs off this dog now and it's still walking I can't afford to get the last one.............
Thanks again for your suggestion. I do appreciate your time answering..........
Sincerely,
Lisa

I think you ought to at least give nfinitefx45's stock rom a try before you completely give up. Link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 Wipe the phone and flash it just like you would a damagecontrol rom from recovery.
Just get the ODEX version (better on memory) and don't worry about JIT, apps2sd, OC kernel or anything else that's listed there. If you aren't happy with that and it doesn't seem to be a huge improvement, then hey--you still have your nandroid right? I promise this phone is better than what you're experiencing with it right now Please feel free to PM me with any further questions/concerns.

Dear Chromiumleaf,
Thank you for the support. Between you and Donb from the Android Root Forum have put so much into me not giving up I am going to start over and do what ever I have to do to reroot and get a new and supported Rom. I'm at work now but ill figure out you to get my email address to you and ill get the job done.
thank you for your support. I have nothing to loose and all the world to gain...
sincerely...
Lisa

I just rooted my N1 for the first time

OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).

Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.

I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom

Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?

Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.

Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..

Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).

brettbellaire said:
...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.

Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.

bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?

brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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kmiloco49 said:
Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!

@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...

bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks

unroot
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks

zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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Is unlocked BL needed for HDMI Landscape Mirroring?

in "HDMI Landscape Mirroring" post, i cant find any information.

Well if your going to root why stop there
It litterally takes 5 minutes to unlock it
Do a YouTube search about it see for your self its not too compicated
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ccxp188 said:
in "HDMI Landscape Mirroring" post, i cant find any information.
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I don't believe so, but I'm not sure. I modified WebTop to work over HDMI without an unlocked bl so probably just root access is fine.

Hey guys, sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but is it possible to get Landscape mirroring working with stock 2.3.4? (Rooted)
I really only want it so I can play my emulators over HDMI and was hoping I wouldn't need any custom ROMS.

HeavensSword said:
Hey guys, sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but is it possible to get Landscape mirroring working with stock 2.3.4? (Rooted)
I really only want it so I can play my emulators over HDMI and was hoping I wouldn't need any custom ROMS.
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Pretty sure it's not possible. Few have tried, but had lots of problems with FC's and such.

Ok, thanks for the reply.

For what it's worth -- and I only just did this a couple weeks ago -- the Darkside rom does have landscape mirroring capability, and it is decidedly faster than using the webtop over HDMI. No, it's not at full 1080P; yes, every once in a while it gives a minor skip; but it works smoothly without issues and is a great feature of the phone now.
So if you're willing to take the plunge with unlocking the bootloader, you'd likely be happy with the results for your emulator.

Hmm I'll consider it. I was all for flashing it with a ROM when I first got the phone, but since it took awhile before people were able to unlock the bootloader I have become use to the stock blur.
I guess my only real concern is reading stuff like "must perform a complete wipe before flashing the ROM". What exactly would be the general process? I take it I would backup all my files and apps and then just re-add them after applying the ROM?
Honestly if darkside is pretty stable (no random crashes or bugs) i think I'll go for it; I definitely love the idea of having a portable snes/psx/gba/etc. that i can just connect straight to a tv and pull out a BT controller.

Darkside is pretty "noob friendly" (why I went with it first, ha!) -- it retains motoblur, but themed, and if you're used to the stock experience you'll already know your way around the phone. Looking around the dev thread some people have had random things not working; I've had exactly zero problems or issues to fix. I'm on a US Atrix, AT&T.
I used this friendly how-to when unlocking my bootloader and flashed the ROM. Highly recommended. In general, the process was:
- Get Titanium Backup (for apps) and Mybackup Root (for SMS/phone logs/etc) from the market for free; use these to back up your user data. Unlocking will reset your phone to factory.
- Unlock bootloader and install romracer's recovery. Make complete nandroid backup using that recovery; it's like a "restore point" if you ever need to go back to stock. (At this point I needed to go to bed, so I took the opportunity to restore my apps and data to make sure everything was still there. It was. So I was still on stock Gingerbread, with root access retained and an unlocked bootloader.)
- If you read the OP in the Darkside thread, he recommends a specific set of instructions to ensure a clean install: you first "fastboot -w" in fastboot mode to do an initial wipe, then reboot & enter recovery mode to clear three specific caches. THEN flash the rom, as you've placed it on your SD card by this point. The instructions are pretty clear -- follow as described and you shouldn't have any problems.
Finally, the emulators I have are nesoid and snesoid; they both work great on my TV. I haven't used an n64 emulator which is likely more demanding on the processor, but so far I'm happy.

Awesome! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
If I get some time tonight I think I'll take the plunge.

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HeavensSword said:
Awesome! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
If I get some time tonight I think I'll take the plunge.
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Darkside was my first custom rom flash, honestly can't be happier. The LS hdmi mirror is a little choppy but not to bad. Just change Settings -> Hdmi-> Overscan. Good luck, and make sure to calibrate your battery!

Well I have Darkside flashed on my phone successfully. Once again thanks for all the help.
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Darkside was my first custom rom flash, honestly can't be happier. The LS hdmi mirror is a little choppy but not to bad. Just change Settings -> Hdmi-> Overscan. Good luck, and make sure to calibrate your battery!
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Thanks for the tip and I just installed the battery calibration app from xda.