Sense SDK - Epic 4G General

Should be interesting here, should help with the dev's who want to port over sense to other devices.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/03/htc-announces-opensense-sdk-and-htcdev-offers-paradise-inside-i/

Not at all. It pretty clearly says that the SDK is set up in such a way as to make it no easier than a straight up port when it comes to non-sense devices.

IMO, i don't like it, but I also really like it!
It's great that they're developing Sense, but for me it's too much of an Apple-like move, cutting it off from everyone else.
Android is about "open-source" and well this SDK thing, just locks you down to Sense. :/

daivik said:
IMO, i don't like it, but I also really like it!
It's great that they're developing Sense, but for me it's too much of an Apple-like move, cutting it off from everyone else.
Android is about "open-source" and well this SDK thing, just locks you down to Sense. :/
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Our phones come with TouchWiz, which I am pretty sure HTC phones cannot use.

algorhythm said:
Our phones come with TouchWiz, which I am pretty sure HTC phones cannot use.
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Who are you referring to when you say "our"? And I'm not talking about a UI. I'm talking about the move to create a mini-market for only Sense UI things. Not the actual UI, of course, each manufacturer to their own UI, it's what gives them an edge over the other manufacturers making similar spec android phones.

algorhythm said:
Our phones come with TouchWiz, which I am pretty sure HTC phones cannot use.
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It's been ported to sense phones already.
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nadcicle said:
It's been ported to sense phones already.
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Why would they want it? It's not bad, just very okay. Sense is better but not amazing. MIUI FTW.

xboxfanj said:
Why would they want it? It's not bad, just very okay. Sense is better but not amazing. MIUI FTW.
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I thought the same thing being the owner of both the Evo and the Epic.
I simply think it is just because of getting bored with what you have stock most of the time.

I'm happy with my tw4 launcher
I just want a few oh the kinks worked out
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Sense UI a possibility on Epic?

Is it possible
Seanc13 said:
Is it possible
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obviously its possible..but no one has released it yet...
A team of people are working on it, but haven't heard from them in a while
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flopez76 said:
A team of people are working on it, but haven't heard from them in a while
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If you are talking about the team I think you are, they said they are waiting for official froyo to do it..
Once official froyo source drops. Things will go more smoothly.. its amazing that our devs here have made the progress they have given the lack of necessity available.
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I was just about to make a thread asking about the development of this Galaxy Sense we heard about last month.
With launcher pro a custom dock and beautiful widgets you can make your homescreens look just like the sense ui if you want it for the ascetics or as a placeholder til it gets ported
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Its funny how much the htc guys hate sense the tw guys want sense. Lol
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mysteryemotionz said:
Its funny how much the htc guys hate sense the tw guys want sense. Lol
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I love sense! i was HTC all the way. diamond/hero/evo
hayabusa1300cc said:
I love sense! i was HTC all the way. diamond/hero/evo
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Hero/evo/epic I ran cm6 on both htc devices. I rather have a pure aosp. I don't like none of the manufacturers gui's.
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The Hero was the first android phone I ever owned, I loved sense on it because there were so many ways to customize it to my liking, tw just sucks, I want to go back to the evo so I can go back to the sense + froyo + CM6, but the epic's keyboard and excellent performance are keeping me here
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Hero/evo/epic I ran cm6 on both htc devices. I rather have a pure aosp. I don't like none of the manufacturers gui's.
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Yeah I know alot of people like it pure google.
but to me it just isnt appealing or as functional.
the hero was my first android device so I did get spoiled
with htc sense. Just to my likings that it brought a better
experience and refresh to the Android interface. Widgets and apps.
I prefer it over TW. There are just a few things I prefer TW
over sense per say.
I think the rom was released and then discontinued for the galaxy s i9000 due to the devs having muliple issues that they were not able to resolve. Link to post --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877902
The only thing I ever liked about Sense UI were the widgets and the Weather effects.
With LauncherPro, you can get pretty much identical widgets, and then Beautiful Widgets will give you the same look of the clock widget. Plus, LauncherPro is infinitely customizable and you can do pretty much anything with it....
Sense UI has always been extremely laggy and slow in all the times I've used it, as a ROM port on my Nexus, and also stock on the Evo/Hero.
Wouldn't mind trying it out again on my Epic though!
The older version of fancy widget is also a wonderful alternative to the sense clock/weather widget.
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Seanc13 said:
The Hero was the first android phone I ever owned, I loved sense on it because there were so many ways to customize it to my liking, tw just sucks, I want to go back to the evo so I can go back to the sense + froyo + CM6, but the epic's keyboard and excellent performance are keeping me here
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lolwut.
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Sense 3.0

Do you think custom ROMs will allow us to have HTC's Sense UI 3.0 on this phone?
Oh... boy... here we go.. i admire you for having the balls to ask about Sense UI in Samsung thread. Hehe. Short answer is NO!!!
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You never know.. The original SGS has turned out a terrific developers phone so if the SGS2 has unlocked bootloaders i cant see why not
If htc sense is that important though just wait from the sensation
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Oh... boy... here we go.. i admire you for having the balls to ask about Sense UI in Samsung thread. Hehe. Short answer is NO!!!
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Its already on the SGS to a fashion... no working data or wifi though yet lol
Guitarfreak26 said:
Its already on the SGS to a fashion... no working data or wifi though yet lol
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Yeah, half baked.
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I'd love to have it, with the recent reports showing the horsepower that it have coupled with Sense 3.0 that would be the perfect phone to have
If people want the HTC Sense experience then they should look at a HTC Phone. Although a Port is possible, its very time consuming and by the time someone actually port's it over with all the drivers working, your device will be close to the yearly refresh and you will want the next best thing. This will leave the developer in a limbo where his efforts didnt truly pay off.
dhruvmalik said:
If people want the HTC Sense experience then they should look at a HTC Phone. Although a Port is possible, its very time consuming and by the time someone actually port's it over with all the drivers working, your device will be close to the yearly refresh and you will want the next best thing. This will leave the developer in a limbo where his efforts didnt truly pay off.
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It's not possible, Galaxy S is half baked, Nexus S also try, half baked. Samsung uses totally different structure on android Nexus S can't even port TouchWiz and its the same manufacturer. I would love to get S II spec wise it blows the Sensation out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041405
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Get a HTC and you will have sense and you don't have to worry or stress about being ported or not.
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Get a HTC and you will have sense and you don't have to worry or stress about being ported or not.
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Yes sir, sorry sir
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Why would u want Sense on Samsung?
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Motola Atrix
Samsung Captivate - CM7 1.2 ghz
Motorola Backflip - CM6
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Yes sir, sorry sir
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Your dismissed
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rjayflo said:
Why would u want Sense on Samsung?
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Motola Atrix
Samsung Captivate - CM7 1.2 ghz
Motorola Backflip - CM6
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I see you have a Motorola Atrix 4G. What do you think about it? I'm in doubt between Atrix, S II and Sensation.
Thank you!
Ugh, how can people even like Sense. It is the worst android UI out of all the custom ones out there.
ryude said:
Ugh, how can people even like Sense. It is the worst android UI out of all the custom ones out there.
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Probably because of the animations. I do HATE the sense dock :/
ryude said:
Ugh, how can people even like Sense. It is the worst android UI out of all the custom ones out there.
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Id say its all about taste. Personally I think motorola's UI is the worst, followed closely by the apple wannabe touchwiz. Funny, I actually hated sense as well at first, but now that im using it for a while, I LOVE IT.
Also, its because htc has added soooo much functionality, like finding/wiping/ringing from anywhere(laptop) incase its lost, or stolen, etc. Plus auto-backup of messages, apprx 100 very useful widgets, plus may apps wich save you a lot of time if you had to download one by one. Basically, its a complete package that looks good and offers functionality that no other manufacturer can even come close to, especially being built in from start. no headaches. I myself wish it could be ported but I doubt, especially with how "involved" its gotten lately
cristianomc said:
I see you have a Motorola Atrix 4G. What do you think about it? I'm in doubt between Atrix, S II and Sensation.
Thank you!
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I had a Galaxy S, then Atrix and now Inspire. Next I'm buying Galaxy S II because the bootlogger is unlocked and I want the light weight, dual core processor power and video enhancements.
The Inspire is amazing. I like it far better than the Atrix because I can put custom roms on it. I was able to root the Atrix and do a few modifications but it was very limited. I strongly recommend the Inspire.
The Sensation is locked down as is the Atrix. If you want a good out of the box phone Atrix is as good as you get until the Galaxy S II arrives. Sensation will be great but probably about the same as the Galaxy S II.
It is hard to recommend a phone without knowing what you do with your phone. For me the unlocked boot logger is the difference between buying and not buying.
Personally I prefer Sense.I think that Samsung have basically copied the iPhone in design and UI. If someone could remove the native Samsung bloat and add sense, all would be good in the world(for me at least)
ragingredbull said:
Personally I prefer Sense.I think that Samsung have basically copied the iPhone in design and UI. If someone could remove the native Samsung bloat and add sense, all would be good in the world(for me at least)
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Couldn't have put it better, dude. trouble is, can we have the best of both worlds?
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I think we can. If enough people that have bought a SGS2 ask for sense then I am sure someone(developer) will be willing to design it for SGS2. From what I have seen of custom roms so far, I think that there are some more than capable developers out there that could do it. If I could write code I definitely would(perhaps I should start learning. The only question is can an old dog(me) learn new tricks?????)

[IDEA] Sensation ROM

Hi guys!
I'm an HTC user and a sense fan however i am very interested in SGS2 and thinking of buying it except that I'm a bit reluctant about the user interface and the overall user experience without the beautiful sense which in fact does make sense!
So i was just thinking if anyone thought of porting a Sensation ROM to the SGS2!
Imagine all that software beauty on this hardware beast! IMO it will be a fantastic combination!
So guys is that feasible?! Did somebody try it?!
PS: Don't flame me or something, it's just an idea...
Try searching the next time.
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you had better to buy Sensation if you want the sense UI compatible with the hardware
Life Engineer said:
Hi guys!
I'm an HTC user and a sense fan however i am very interested in SGS2 and thinking of buying it except that I'm a bit reluctant about the user interface and the overall user experience without the beautiful sense which in fact does make sense!
So i was just thinking if anyone thought of porting a Sensation ROM to the SGS2!
Imagine all that software beauty on this hardware beast! IMO it will be a fantastic combination!
So guys is that feasible?! Did somebody try it?!
PS: Don't flame me or something, it's just an idea...
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look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044637
TheGhost1233 said:
Try searching the next time.
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search doesn't give you an aswer, I know the thread I am looking for but can never find it with search
Ok thx guys for all your replies!
However godutch the thread you posted is for SGS and not SGS2!!!
SGS2 can easily run Sense 3.0!
So I guess no one is working on it!
Life Engineer said:
Ok thx guys for all your replies!
However godutch the thread you posted is for SGS and not SGS2!!!
SGS2 can easily run Sense 3.0!
So I guess no one is working on it!
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not yet but once they get it running on the sgs porting it to the sgs2 should be easy, there is also a sense 3.0 rom btw
Life Engineer said:
Hi guys!
I'm an HTC user and a sense fan however i am very interested in SGS2 and thinking of buying it except that I'm a bit reluctant about the user interface and the overall user experience without the beautiful sense which in fact does make sense!
So i was just thinking if anyone thought of porting a Sensation ROM to the SGS2!
Imagine all that software beauty on this hardware beast! IMO it will be a fantastic combination!
So guys is that feasible?! Did somebody try it?!
PS: Don't flame me or something, it's just an idea...
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Talking about User Interface? SGS2's Touchwiz 4.0 is completely different from Touchwiz 3.0. It's more fluidic, intuitive, neat and bright. Try it once and I'm sure you won't want to have Sense in it,.
Saketme said:
Talking about User Interface? SGS2's Touchwiz 4.0 is completely different from Touchwiz 3.0. It's more fluidic, intuitive, neat and bright. Try it once and I'm sure you won't want to have Sense in it,.
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Sense to me is all show with very little go. Touchwiz 4 is CLEAN, quick, and simple. This is for the UI, the Apps (Email, messaging, dialer) are a different story.
Personally, I dislike both Sense and Touchwiz.
Do I get a prize?
Pagnell said:
Personally, I dislike both Sense and Touchwiz.
Do I get a prize?
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Yes, a free motoblur apk
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Pagnell said:
Personally, I dislike both Sense and Touchwiz.
Do I get a prize?
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Only if we can share it.
Launcher Pro FTW.
Pagnell said:
Personally, I dislike both Sense and Touchwiz.
Do I get a prize?
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E-Cookies are on their way.......
dhruvmalik said:
Sense to me is all show with very little go. Touchwiz 4 is CLEAN, quick, and simple. This is for the UI, the Apps (Email, messaging, dialer) are a different story.
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The email and messaging app are awesome (landscape mode = drool), the dialer....it looks like the stock dialer, no complaints there either. What is your problem with those apps exactly?
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E-Cookies are on their way.......
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Nomnomnom.

HTC Sense 3.5 screen shot leak

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/htc-sense-3-5-beta-screenshots-leak-bring-tears-of-joy-to-weath/
I keep liking Sense less and less.
I'm starting to like it more and more. Haha but that's just me
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Rosie is ugly as heck. I'm getting tired of Sense but AOSP... I guess I will just have to wait for Ice Cream Sandwich, I hope for a major facelift
Steven 1 said:
I'm starting to like it more and more. Haha but that's just me
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I was gonna say the same, but then again is a matter of choices and preferences, something that should not be forgotten when you are comparing.
Coming soon to an Evo near you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16967342
Ehh, not a big fan of the round icons. I still like Sense, just not as much since all of the sense reboots I used to get before flashing MIUI.
HTC saying 3.5 will be compatible with all of there handsets not just their high range phones. Would be nice to see this happen. Sense is getting nicer and nicer but I run cm7 for the speed and vanilla look
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mattykinsx said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/htc-sense-3-5-beta-screenshots-leak-bring-tears-of-joy-to-weath/
I keep liking Sense less and less.
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I'm with you. Just looks bloated to me.
And what is this obsession with weather updates all over Sense? Are they vampires who need to know the exact status of the sun before they can go outside?
MaxCarnage said:
And what is this obsession with weather updates all over Sense? Are they vampires who need to know the exact status of the sun before they can go outside?
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Hilarious and a great point.
They seem to be in love with the weather.
Papa Smurf151 said:
HTC saying 3.5 will be compatible with all of there handsets not just their high range phones. Would be nice to see this happen. Sense is getting nicer and nicer but I run cm7 for the speed and vanilla look
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I agree with you on the vanilla part. However there are something's of sense that I like. Like the text selector I think it is superior to aosp. I would love to run a sense 3.0 rom without the lockscreen. That ring annoys the crap out of me.
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Khilbron said:
I agree with you on the vanilla part. However there are something's of sense that I like. Like the text selector I think it is superior to aosp. I would love to run a sense 3.0 rom without the lockscreen. That ring annoys the crap out of me.
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Don't get me wrong. When I had my hero I was in love with sense. Its shiney and pretty and has some nice features but I need the snappiness to go with it
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I <3 Sense, it's just fluid and classy looking to me. But different strokes for different folks right? I run AOSP and find myself trying to make it mimic Sense, what's the point in me doing that?
I like sense 2
Theres just way too much going on. I tried Vanilla with CM7. Never looked back.
dw3bb10 said:
Theres just way too much going on. I tried Vanilla with CM7. Never looked back.
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Agreed.
Too much weather too.
Xtazy305 said:
I like sense 2
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I liked TouchFlo.
Khilbron said:
I would love to run a sense 3.0 rom without the lockscreen. That ring annoys the crap out of me.
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Synergy has the option to use the AOSP lockscreen instead (found in settings/display)...if that's what you prefer.
mizzos4 said:
Synergy has the option to use the AOSP lockscreen instead (found in settings/display)...if that's what you prefer.
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So does mikg
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So does mikg
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Except if you do that, you must swipe the bars and unlock your phone to answer a call. I delete most system files related to the ring and it gets rid of everything except for the ring. Works a bit better
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I think the lock screen is the only cool thing about sense, I like running the sense 3 with launcher pro on top, but
the weather lock screen is awesome so
I keep it, and I like the short cuts.
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[Q] Who else would love a Sense port ROM?

Before I say anything, Devs please do not see this as a request or as demanding in ANY way. You all do fantastic work and really make this device shine. Anyways... I was wondering if anyone else wishes there was a Sense based port. With the DNA being so close relativity in specs, I am sort of surprised there has not been any talk of a port. This is simply to see who else would like to see a port and if there is any interest in one. I am absolutley not a developer and could not create a ROM to save my life, I'm just a lowly power user lol.
I would much rather have Sense 5(when it comes out) since it's newer and looks cleaner.
No way. Honestly, no offense but if you like Sense then you should have gotten an HTC device.
I also disagree about it being cleaner. Stock a android is just beautiful.
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enviii said:
No way. Honestly, no offense but if you like Sense then you should have gotten an HTC device.
I also disagree about it being cleaner. Stock a android is just beautiful.
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Sheesh. I was just asking if anyone else would like it. Honestly I would go nuts with any HTC phone, sense is just fun to play around with, not preferred over PA for example.
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I would also like to see a sense rom, it would be cool to be able to have one phone that could run any ui. We already have Motorola blur, why not HTC sense, and touchwiz. If you don't like it you don't have to flash it. I love the nexus line of hardware and aosp, but for flashaholics like me, the more ROMs available the better off I am. I wish I could build ROMs but I don't even know where to start. I would definitely donate to any dev that could build a stable sense ROM.
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I wish I could build ROMs but I don't even know where to start.
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How many roms would we have if everyone had this attitude? None. Every developer, at one time, didn't know where to start.
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enviii said:
No way. Honestly, no offense but if you like Sense then you should have gotten an HTC device.
I also disagree about it being cleaner. Stock a android is just beautiful.
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Pretty sure you misinterpreted my post...I meant Sense 5 is cleaner than 4/4+, which is true after all.
mitchdickson said:
How many roms would we have if everyone had this attitude? None. Every developer, at one time, didn't know where to start.
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I don't have the time to learn how to build ROMs. My wife stays on my case as it is, and all I do is flash a ROM and set it up the way I want it. I go to work to make money so I can pay someone to do all the things that I don't want to do and the things I don't know how to do. I have one set of skills and you probably have a different set of skills in your line of work. I don't know anybody who knows how to do everything. This is why I said that I would donate to a dev who comes up with a sense ROM.
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I came from the HTC G2, the stock android version of the Desire Z (codename: Vision). Basically, in my opinion at least, any Sense ROM that was not a kang of a ROM shipped by HTC for the Vision has a bunch of bugs and oddities and things that just don't work nicely. And the Vision has one the best developers community that I have seen around. You still get CM 10.1 nightlies uover there even as the last update from HTC was GB back in 2010.
So... while I support having choices, thus would welcome any Sense ROM for the N4, I actually don't think it's a good idea to try.
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I would like to try Sense 5. I wouldn't use it as my daily driver. But I'm definitely not opposed to having more options.
I bought this phone so that I could escape things like Sense and Touchwiz... It would seem counterproductive to me to put it on this phone?
Mr. Chocolate said:
I bought this phone so that I could escape things like Sense and Touchwiz... It would seem counterproductive to me to put it on this phone?
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And I bought it for the amazing Dev community. The great thing about a ROM is you can choose not to flash it. Isn't it better to have the option?
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And I bought it for the amazing Dev community. The great thing about a ROM is you can choose not to flash it. Isn't it better to have the option?
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Now I understand...You see they feel obligated to try something they don't want, fascinating, isn't it?
Ace42 said:
Now I understand...You see they feel obligated to try something they don't want, fascinating, isn't it?
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Indeed
We should (those who want a sense ROM)
Put a bounty for this sense ROM. Ill put 20$ in the pot
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I'll give $20.00 for a sense ROM.
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jaestreetss said:
We should (those who want a sense ROM)
Put a bounty for this sense ROM. Ill put 20$ in the pot
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I would love to contribute but I'm a student and don't have a credit card... Therefore no PayPal. Stupid teenager problems!
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Maybe, wait for sense 5 it's going to be much lighter than before, it might be easier to port.
cyanogendroid said:
Before I say anything, Devs please do not see this as a request or as demanding in ANY way. You all do fantastic work and really make this device shine. Anyways... I was wondering if anyone else wishes there was a Sense based port. With the DNA being so close relativity in specs, I am sort of surprised there has not been any talk of a port. This is simply to see who else would like to see a port and if there is any interest in one. I am absolutley not a developer and could not create a ROM to save my life, I'm just a lowly power user lol.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!
Sense is a GIANT turd. It's the main reason I got rid of my One X+.
I found sense to actually be pretty good on the one x after ripping all the crap out. Heck I'd be happy just to have the sense camera. Half the people crying probably haven't even tried it.
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