Related
Please please reply it.
I want to make my application part of ROM my three PDAs. ( I have XDA2i, PDA2K and K-Jam), so machine will have application after hard reset. (i don’t want to write FLASH Memory \Storage\1257 etc i think any one can delete that)
Q1) is there any installer available which deploy to ROM and make desired application part of ROM.
Q2) to upgrade any ROM , is it must to have base ROM ?
I really thankful for your feedbacks
Khurram
Hi Khurram!
There are no installers that can put apps in to device ROM. If you want to add to the ROM you need to do the following:
1)Extract ROM image (or get one for your device from somewhere).
2)Decrypt the image (nbf file) and extract all files.
3)Add your app
4)Repackage and encrypt the image.
5)Reflash your device with the new image.
The tools to do it are on this site (check out ROM kitchen), but this is a complicated process, and there is a good chance you will wind up with a useless device which won't boot.
So you should read up on ROM cooking and be very careful when altering ROM images.
Good luck!
Hello levenum,
Great reply , thanks a lot . you are the only person who replied me now and in past as well.
in past, you suggested the "file store".
Problem: it is not a secure way , any person can remove it from the device.
does any one have idea about Extended ROM or any other secure and risk free way ?
Thanks
[/list]
Hi Khurram!
When you first posted you didn't specify your program was sensitive, and you didn't want people deleting it.
If it's really important Extended ROM is not good ether since it can be unlocked and manipulated just like the File store. There are unlocking tools in this forum.
If your program is some kind of anti-theft app. (in case your phone gets stolen) the only way to ensure no one messes with it is to put it in ROM.
Of course even then someone could re-flash the device with an original ROM,
so nothing is 100% secure.
Great , really impressed in way you picked my point.
i am working on such a application , actually 3 months ago I lost my newly purchased XDA2i , luckily i got that back with the help of mobile operator but I want to developed such a application which will lock the machine totally and will not allow re-flashing as well.
Q: stop to re-flash is possible?
Q: any existing tools for anti-theft ( i saw something at ROM Kitchen but it is for specific versions only)
any further help will be appreciated.
Thanks Again.
Yes, there are projects like this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46174
Although, I don't remember anyone trying to put the app in ROM.
As for preventing device from re-flashing:
It is possible theoretically, but would require serious programming skills, and good knowledge of hardware.
There is a special program, called bootloader, which is responsible for loading the OS or writing a ROM update to the device. The only way to prevent re-flashing would be to write one of your own, and even then getting it on the device would be tricky.
Any way, that kind of knowledge is way beyond me.
But I do have one question you should consider:
Does your program need to save data, like SIM details for authorized SIMs or changing password?
Since this data cannot be written to ROM dynamiccaly, you would have to compile your program for each user\device specifically, and the password would have to be hard coded.
yes my application will be extention of existing security tools with more control of device something confidentional :twisted: .
the only problem is prevent from deletion so thats why i am worried about it
I didn't mean for you to tell me what your program saves.
I just wanted to point out that while preventing a program from being deleted is possible (I don't think many thieves would bother re-flashing a device, specially if your program would make it look as if the device is malfunctioning and not locked, only the user will know what to do)
its impossible to save settings so they will not be deleted.
If you are making this program only for your self, than fixed password, or SIM info is not a problem, but if you intend this for other people you will have to come up with some solution to store the settings securely.
At leas for this you may have to use the File store.
Hey all,
I have a question.
I have been playing with my 8125 a lot lately and am constantly resetting my device. What I want to know is I have one main machine that I do all my application installs via active sync that way when I hard reset my device I just have to go to add remove programs in active sync and re-check all the programs I want to put back on my phone.
Here is what I want.
I don’t want to have to tell the phone where to install the applications (I want it to default to storage card without any prompts.) and.. I don’t want any confirmation prompts ie: security unsigned, approve this application to be installed, this application was installed properly… etc.. I want to streamline the process so I can just tick the check boxes for my apps, let them download and that’s it. Currently after refreshing I have to spend quite a bit of time clicking “ok” … storage card…. Ok… storage card… ok… I think you get it.
Thanks much!
I've seen a lot of different reg keys out there that may accomplis this. Is there a way to disable the notifications and pre-set the install path peramaters?
sledwrecker said:
I've seen a lot of different reg keys out there that may accomplis this. Is there a way to disable the notifications and pre-set the install path peramaters?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can do this with WinCE Cab manager
If you really reset your device that often why don't you use SPB BACKUP? A reinstallation of all your apps wouldn't be necessary - just load your backup and you're ready to go!
Ya I did think of that but here is my issue.
the reason I am constantly hard reseting is because I am changing and playing with roms pretty much on a daily basis. I've been cooking my own roms trying to come up with what works best for me and what is closest to RTM. Thus why I am always re-installing apps.
So if I use SPB backup (which I have) it saves system settings and such right? So if I am switching roms all the time will it break my device?
Thanks guys! I'm new to the forum here I just got my first PPC phone a couple weeks ago but I've been an avid windows mobile (smartphone) user for years and have worked on WM platforms as beta tester.
Gotta love this stuff!!!
sledwrecker said:
So if I use SPB backup (which I have) it saves system settings and such right? So if I am switching roms all the time will it break my device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you are exactly right, and so many people seem to miss this... Spb Backup, Sprite Backup, etc are full backups that backup and restore the registry and all. If you restore this from one rom to a different rom you are likely to break something (may not be obvious at first, but you have a very good chance of things being broken inside the registry that you will trip up on at some point).
So yeah, the only way around this (without building your own extended rom and such) is to create a folder (or set of folders) on your SD card with all the cabs, files, and settings that you need for when your flash a new rom. Then run through that to set things up. You can also use ActiveSync to reinstall apps (just check them all and it will put them all back on) but you have to remember which ones (if any) require a reset of your device as that can cause probs with the others that are installing (if all done together).
Yep,
but at least you can import contacts, email and pim data that way quite easy!
Since you continiously flash your device: there will be no other solution but reinstalling your applications again and again. You might want to look around for a CAB extractor and then create your own CABs with all the progs you would like to have in one large CAB ???
One such CAB Installer Creator is: WinCE CAB Manager
Take a closer look at MolskiBiz_DevPack and you will find a utility to extract CAB files. It will be a bit work to add all the registry values to the Installer you're going to create but finally you might save a lot of time since you only run 1 installation instead of xxx ...
This is good, I have been playing with wince cab and it is a solution.
Now I'm going to work on making my extended roms.. will this work? I did a full recover of my apps through active sync just an hour or two ago and it reported total size of all cabs as just over 112megs. That means I'd be flashing a MONSTER rom and would it even be possible?
2gig mini SD card.
thanks
I tried before to add some apps (cab installers) to a personalized extended rom but it never worked the way I wanted it to. You might have seen that you always have to give some inputs when ever you install programs, sometimes you get ask if you really want to install the app, sometimes you need to choose a location. So, if you add CAB installers UNCHANGED to the extended ROM it just won't install because during extended rom installation you have no way of providing that information.
I ｈａｖｅ ｂｅｅｎ ｒｕｎｎｉｎｇ ｄ－ｔｗｏ＇ｓ rom for a while now and it is working great for me. Last night I tried to connect to live messenger and it went a bit crazy. Now it will only get to the today screen and then it hangs. I am looking around the site for a solution but I just wanted to ask here as well..
I know a hard reset will get me going again, problem is some text messages from last night that I really really dont want to lose.
I think it may be relatedto xpuscaler, but I dont really know. Activesync will not connect
The ideas I think may help me are:
1. can i use something like tty to get into the machine and either take the sms and contacts file or remove xpuscaler from the startup?
2. Can i use the clean registry without the format storage option from the hard reset menu? would this destroy my contacts and sms?
Please help
sim cards can store messages and as far as i know windows mobile (2k2 & 2k3) saves contacts to the sim card. check it in another phone if the stuff is stored there and if it is HR or reflash your unit.
1. as far as i know, there is no way to access files or folders remotely unless the device is fully booted, so, no mtty, no accessing in bootloader mode
2. yes you can use that option, that is a pretty good idea actually, because while the registry might contain startup information, it does not contain your sms or contacts.
another thing is, always keep your contacts synced, so they can never be the issue, and for sms, i recommend either to sync them too, or regularly make a backup with pimbackup, of course, this advise does not help you right now, but it might avoid issues like this in the future. since we are not carrying around normal phones like nokia, SE, ... and play around with custom roms, we must always be ready to perform a hard reset.
but back to the topic, unfortunately, the BA offers no "Safe Mode", as known of windows pcs, so avoiding the startup. you can try tricking the BA to do something else first, if the registry clearing does not work, you could put an extrom to your SD card and maybe the extrom startup will be first. maybe an extrom containing the same or a newer version of xcpuscalar will uninstall the current version and install the new version with the standard settings, and since the extrom shuts down everything else, it might just work.
and kind as i am, i actually built an extrom for you, just unzip and copy to the sd card, if it does not work, rename the folder from EXTROM to 2577 and it will work.
here you have the download link, it's pretty small: http://rapidshare.com/files/335389705/EXTROM.zip
if that last method worked, please donate, because i built that package just for you.
Thanks Chef,
I am having a go with your extrom now..
In the time since last post I have been able to get it working at the today screen but nothing will load.. maybe 520mhz made the processor die? have been running at full speed for a few weeks now..
You are right about the backup, I usually have pimbackup automated to backup to my sd everyday, but I hadnt got around to it since I installed this ROM. Typical luck! I wouldnt really care but I have some important sms that I need to recover..
@ares93 unfortunatly I dont save to my sim card as I have too many contacts to do that. And I dont think my sim could store my four years of sms that I seem to still have...
Will post more as it goes...
Well unfortunately the extrom didnt help so I bit the bullet and did a registry clean from the hard reset menu. It now boots and I have removed lots of apps to try to get rid of any clashes.. at the moment It appears to be completely normal until you try to run anything. mshome is working smoothly, the start menu is working, some settings panels will load, but I cant get it to run anything..
anyone seen this before?
Does anyone know if i can take a complete image of the device at this state and restore it later after i start really messing with things
Does anyone know if i can take a copy of the files on it and just restore the entire sms database after a hard reset?
I will think about how I can donate, its about time i did...
In the end a hard reset didnt work, so I reflashed and its all running smooth, lost some important documents, but it was all i could do.
lesson learned, remember to schedule back ups for everyday to sd
that's what i was talking about, pimbackup is great for that, you can find it here: http://www.dotfred.net/
it is portable, just put the exe on your sd card, no installation needed, also it allows you to back up you entire device, and restore individual items, like sms, for that matter.
if you want to make a full backup that would completely restore your device after a hard reset, with all settings, programs...
you should try SPB backup. there is a trial version at http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/backup/ that lasts for 14 days, that should be enough for your matters now. the only thing you need to know about spb backup is: you cannot restore a backup on another rom because it also saves the entire windows folder and that varies from rom to rom.
pimbackup, however can make universal backups that can be restored on other roms, other windows mobile versions from wm2003 to wm6.5.3, even other windows mobile based devices.
I bought a HTC touch with Android on it off ebay for sprint. I did not even know that this phone did not come with android to show how little I know about phones... So I tried to activate it and that worked fine till I got to the part where you enter the ##nnnnnn# number to put in the msid. So ops it dont work. I dont even know how to get files on my phone, when I plu it in it does come up under ky computer. I can put stuff on the memory card but don't know how to use it under android. Some one told some else on this forum that you have to flash it back to windows change it and flash it back. there was another person that said to use a plrgram on the phone called get spc or something like that which I tried but I don't know how to get it from the memory card to the phone or how to run the program off the memroy card with android. I used Astro (don't enen know if that is what astro is for) and tried to launch the program in the phone and it said it didn't know what to do with and exe file. I am so stuck. Sorry to be such a pain.. Can any one help. All I really want to do is change the msid and that msn number or what ever that second number is called.
Thanks everyone.
Randy
Post screen shots+problem details
please
breife with details
Sprint are CDMA no? That means you have an Vogue, not an elf. Whilst your lucky you can have froyo, you have also ended up in the wrong section. Hopefully a mod will move this
Moved to Vogue section.
As for your problem, I personally don't know how to mess with programming settings on Android (I know it can be done via CDMA Workshop, but you need to get the program to do this and even still it isn't easy). Flash back to WM (look for NFSFan's rom, you should be able to flash with no issues as your phone is unlocked). Once you have flashed, you can easily do the PST programming from the Phone Codes folder. You can flash back to Android afterwards.
I hope this helps.
Hi Everyone, as the title suggest this is about manually backing up your data from installed apps
Theres nothing complicated about it but it is a bit time consuming to start with, ive tried this on several programs, using the following process,
Back up the data,
Uninstalling the program,
Restart,
Install the program,
Running the program to confirm the previous data had gone,
Put the backup back in place,
Finally running the program again to confirm the old data was back.
first things first, you will need windows phone device manager
http://www.touchxperience.com/
now, use the file explorer and navigate to your "Applications\data folder
within here you will find everything you have installed listed as numbers and letters
the time consuming part is trying to work out what is what. The folder your looking for within each folder is called "IsolatedStore" that contains everything as far as i can see for that app
Simply transfer that folder to your PC,
To use it again, simply install the app, then copy the backup back overwriting whats there.
Cache and History dont seem to copy but ive not found an issue as yet with this
Ive not tried this after a full reset
Ive not looked for a way of doing this with SMS messages, i doubt it will be in the same location but its possible i suppose if you can find it
anyhow, I might just give NoDo a try now that i can "backup" my important data
was also thinking that perhaps this could be intigrated in to windows phone device manager, ive tried installing and removing an app several times and its always used the same folder name, i dont know if this is the case across devices, but if it is, potentially a database could be used... just a thought
OR!
just wait for the new version of windows phone device manager
which ive just been told will contain a back up utility!
i think it will hit beta users soon-ish
backing up sms etc seems to be a big obstacle to people using WP7 full time.
Hope this is included.
Robbie P said:
backing up sms etc seems to be a big obstacle to people using WP7 full time.
Hope this is included.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah that is a pain, ive been searching all damn night to see if i can find where they are but so far nothing, im guessing its within some protected area or within one of the DB files which cant be copied off.
wheres the pst files when you need them, MS have always managed to hide them in odd places
anyhow, perhaps im missing something, if not, then maybe sms backup will not be apart of his program because im buggered if i can find the things!.
SMS backup
Sorry to bump this thread but I thought I would add a link to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16490860&postcount=29 where you can backup SMS.
Just for completeness!