I have been reading and thought i would see what others have done with the rogers version of the play.
If you have unlocked and rooted please share what steps you did.
I have one that was originally locked and branded from Rogers. First, I purchased a unique network unlock code specific for the IMEI on my PLAY, from Theunlock.ca. Then completely de-branded it by flashing it with a R800i generic UK firmware using FlashTool from one of the many useful tutorials on here. And used GingerBreak to sucessfully root it. Let me know if you want the links and I'll post them up for you.
That would be great if you could post the links, have you noticed any issues since unlocking and rooting?
What version you on?
i'm at 2.3.2
Thanks for the reply
I'm on v2.3.2 as well and no issues at all since I unlocked/de-branded/rooted it. I'll post the links tomorrow cause I'm out for the night.
FYI, once you de-brand it, you gotta manually put in the Rogers APN settings to get back on the network. But I'll post all that with the links tomorrow.
EDIT: Links are below:
Purchase A Network Unlock Code:
• http://www.theunlock.ca/
FlashTool Topic Thread:
• http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746 (you must install the ggsetup-2.2.0.10.exe that's included in the drivers folder of FlashTool in order for it to work)
Xperia Play_Release_Generic UK.ftf File Download Thread:
• http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048422
GingerBreak APK Topic Thread:
• http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Rogers APN Settings:
• APN Name: Rogers (or whatever you want)
• APN: rogers-core-appl1.apn
• Proxy: Not Set
• Port: Not Set
• Username: Not Set
• Password: Not Set
• Server: Not Set
• MMSC: http://mms.gprs.rogers.com
• MMS Proxy: 10.128.1.69
• MMS Port: 80
• MCC: 302
• MNC: 720
• Authentication Type: Not Set
• APN Type: Not Set
If you need any help, feel free to PM me or just reply back to this thread!
Thanks for the great info, this will be helpful to all us canadian rogers users.
How is your battery life?
I get 2 days of normal use, calls, email, texting, no gaming though.
About the same, but if gaming for maybe a total of 2 hours a day, only a day.
Thanks again, I'm running win 7 64 bit. what are you running?
I can see me having issue's, I'm waiting for my unlock code and have just started to read the steps.
So what would happen if you attempt to recover using Sony's app, will it restore it factory fresh with rogers bloat?
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Flava0ne said:
I have one that was originally locked and branded from Rogers. First, I purchased a unique network unlock code specific for the IMEI on my PLAY, from Theunlock.ca. Then completely de-branded it by flashing it with a R800i generic UK firmware using FlashTool from one of the many useful tutorials on here. And used GingerBreak to sucessfully root it. Let me know if you want the links and I'll post them up for you.
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So no problems on 3G? I've got an unbranded/unlocked r800a model I've been contemplating flashing with the 2.3.3 generic UK build, but I'm a little leery with reports that it upgrades the baseband on the phone and I don't want to hose the radio. Don't know if the generic UK 2.3.2 build has a baseband update though.
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hackit said:
Thanks again, I'm running win 7 64 bit. what are you running?
I can see me having issue's, I'm waiting for my unlock code and have just started to read the steps.
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I'm on Windows 7 64-bit.
DarthVR6 said:
So what would happen if you attempt to recover using Sony's app, will it restore it factory fresh with rogers bloat?
Sent from my R800a using XDA App
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So far, PC Companion keeps saying that my phone is up to date even if I manually search for the 2.3.3 update.
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So no problems on 3G? I've got an unbranded/unlocked r800a model I've been contemplating flashing with the 2.3.3 generic UK build, but I'm a little leery with reports that it upgrades the baseband on the phone and I don't want to hose the radio. Don't know if the generic UK 2.3.2 build has a baseband update though.
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No problems with 3G at all, you just have to put in your carrier's APN settings after flashing with the generic UK fw. ATM, I don't think I'll be updating to 2.3.3 yet until you're able to get root access on it on a locked bootloader.
No problems with 3G at all, you just have to put in your carrier's APN settings after flashing with the generic UK fw. ATM, I don't think I'll be updating to 2.3.3 yet until you're able to get root access on it on a locked bootloader.
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Yeah I've got a phone that the bootloader could be unlocked, but I'm saving it as a last resort. If 2.3.3 becomes rootable this gives me some relief that I have another option in case the US dev model of the R800a doesn't get official love from SE.
Flava0ne said:
I'm on Windows 7 64-bit.
So far, PC Companion keeps saying that my phone is up to date even if I manually search for the 2.3.3 update.
No problems with 3G at all, you just have to put in your carrier's APN settings after flashing with the generic UK fw. ATM, I don't think I'll be updating to 2.3.3 yet until you're able to get root access on it on a locked bootloader.
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Hey Flava
Since using the stock generic UK fw - have you come across any random freezing or lag with the Xperia Play? Im still using Rogers fw but have uninstalled almost all SE Bloat - yet more often than not, it chugs or gets choppy ... can't figure out why...
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Hey Flava
Since using the stock generic UK fw - have you come across any random freezing or lag with the Xperia Play? Im still using Rogers fw but have uninstalled almost all SE Bloat - yet more often than not, it chugs or gets choppy ... can't figure out why...
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No freezing issues at all with the stock generic UK fw and it only get's choppy on initial boot up. I have my screen timeout set to 1 minute and I noticed that after rebooting it, if I don't slide the locker immediately and wait for the screen to timeout before doing so, it's just as if I never rebooted it at all and is pretty snappy right after that. I also have Memory Booster installed and set on Level 3 (max) boost setting on boot.
Ok I ran gingerbreak, and all seems good so far.
So now with the flash tool it looks like it is for the x10, so putting the Xperia Play_Release_Generic UK.ftf in the firmware folder is aall that is needed?
this seems so easy,
Flava0ne said:
No freezing issues at all with the stock generic UK fw and it only get's choppy on initial boot up. I have my screen timeout set to 1 minute and I noticed that after rebooting it, if I don't slide the locker immediately and wait for the screen to timeout before doing so, it's just as if I never rebooted it at all and is pretty snappy right after that. I also have Memory Booster installed and set on Level 3 (max) boost setting on boot.
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Did u have freezing issues with the Rogers fw? I just moved a bunch of games and apps over to my SD and now it seems to be a lot better...I think I had about 75mb of space left..now I have over 150mb... hope this really has resolved the issue. Lmk...ill def upgrade if generic UK Dwight u had the same issue...
hackit said:
Ok I ran gingerbreak, and all seems good so far.
So now with the flash tool it looks like it is for the x10, so putting the Xperia Play_Release_Generic UK.ftf in the firmware folder is aall that is needed?
this seems so easy,
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Yup, just place the generic UK fw in the firmware folder. But you're going to need to use GingerBreak once again to root it after flashing it with the fw. Also, no need to reconnect it to FlashTool after flashing it, because it won't recognize the PLAY after that. You're going to need to download a version of Busybox Installer and Superuser from the Market prior to rooting it. Then once rooted, open up Busybox Installer and install it on your PLAY.
So basically, as recap, it is:
1 - Remove SIM-lock with network unlock code
2 - Install FlashTool
3 - Flash Generic UK firmware
4 - Run GingerBreak
5 - Restore Rogers APN settings for data
I've been contempling this since I got my Rogers Xperia Play mid-May, and I want to make sure I don't mess it up (i.e. brick it).
I have a few questions, though:
1 - Is the network unlocked really necessary?
I'm under contract with for 3-years and I'm not planning to change anytime soon anyway so if I can save a few bucks and not get the network unlock code, I'll be fine. The reason I ask is because I did not noticed that unlocking the bootloader is necessary, thus the reason why I ask if necessary
2 - Is GingerBreak (root) necessary as well?
All I really want is 2.3.3, which is not rootable yet (from what I read, correct me if I'm wrong). I don't mind (yet) for the root as all my applications run fine and the only reason I would need root is to run Titanium Backup to remove bloatware, which is already not present on the UK Generic ROM.
3 - Double-check that flashing an R800i ROM on R800a hardware doesn't mess with 3G bands/baseband.
My friend has the Xperia Arc (LT15a Rogers) and flashed the UK Generic too (LT15i) and has no problems, and I just want to make sure it runs as smoothly on my Play than his Arc.
By the way: I've had a Xperia X10a before and have knowledge on how to flash etc., but I'm just making 100% SURE on that I won't run into any issues with my Xperia Play.
Thanks!
cedrikfd said:
So basically, as recap, it is:
1 - Remove SIM-lock with network unlock code
2 - Install FlashTool
3 - Flash Generic UK firmware
4 - Run GingerBreak
5 - Restore Rogers APN settings for data
I've been contempling this since I got my Rogers Xperia Play mid-May, and I want to make sure I don't mess it up (i.e. brick it).
I have a few questions, though:
1 - Is the network unlocked really necessary?
I'm under contract with for 3-years and I'm not planning to change anytime soon anyway so if I can save a few bucks and not get the network unlock code, I'll be fine. The reason I ask is because I did not noticed that unlocking the bootloader is necessary, thus the reason why I ask if necessary
2 - Is GingerBreak (root) necessary as well?
All I really want is 2.3.3, which is not rootable yet (from what I read, correct me if I'm wrong). I don't mind (yet) for the root as all my applications run fine and the only reason I would need root is to run Titanium Backup to remove bloatware, which is already not present on the UK Generic ROM.
3 - Double-check that flashing an R800i ROM on R800a hardware doesn't mess with 3G bands/baseband.
My friend has the Xperia Arc (LT15a Rogers) and flashed the UK Generic too (LT15i) and has no problems, and I just want to make sure it runs as smoothly on my Play than his Arc.
By the way: I've had a Xperia X10a before and have knowledge on how to flash etc., but I'm just making 100% SURE on that I won't run into any issues with my Xperia Play.
Thanks!
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Unlocking the network on your PLAY is totally up to you and is not necessary at all. It's just a matter of preference. I unlocked my PLAY so that if I go out of the country on a vacation or something, all I have to do is purchase a pay-as-you-go SIM card from that country and use it on my unlocked PLAY, instead of having to pay ridiculous roaming and data roaming charges from Rogers.
ATM, I'm sticking with v2.3.2 which is rootable via GingerBreak because I like to customize a lot of stuff on my PLAY. The generic UK fw still has a few "bloatware" pre-installed minus all the Rogers crap and I want to be able to freeze those apps from running, not uninstall them cause I don't feel too confident that I won't run into any problems if I do so. So if I do, I just defrost the app that I froze and that was giving my problems. So rooting your PLAY, again, is totally up to you and is not necessary at all.
Regarding flashing the R800i fw onto your R800a, all you gotta do is manually put in the Rogers APN settings and everything with be just fine.
Flava0ne said:
GingerBreak APK Topic Thread:
• http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
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I'm up to here, and I'm stuck on how to get the apk to the phones internal memory. Is there something I'm missing?
You flash a/i firmware depending on which network carrier you use. If your network provider ships (a) phones, then you should flash (a) firmware if you want 3G/UMTS. If your carrier ships (i) phones, then flash (i) firmware to use 3G/UMTS.
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I have an Atrix, successfully rooted via GingerBreak.
Build OLYLA_U4_0.43.0
Blur_Version.0.43.3.MB860.AmericaMovil.en.MX
OSHWT_UI_6.18.0
Since the beginning it has sideloading, wifi tether, and a newe version of Webtop at least... I'm not sure if it is SIM locked (veery likely). It has Telcel bloatware... really hideous stuff.
(Got the multimedia dock by default, and the lapdock as a freebie from Moto , for renewing the same plan I already had before on a Cliq. Yes I use that many minutes)
I like to enable the webtop without dock hack... BUT it is a different build than A&Ts. It is safe to just replace (after backup) the necessary APKs?
If the releases are useful for you guys, I'll be glad to help you getting them, if you help me with the propper commands to extract SBFs, etc. Of if just an IMG from the partitions are useful, let me know.
Hola paisano,
If you already backed up your rom with Tenfar's nandroid you should have no problems.
I would have tried myself, but I have an at&t Atrix unlocked to Telcel.
I suggest you to use root explorer and just rename and replace the appropriate files.
Cheers,
Rayan
- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
saludos LOL
well first you can ROOT??? i guess you can using gingerbreak, you need be carefull since there is no SBF for Atrix from telcel, not sure if telsra will work tho.
anyways if you can root you MUST install Tenfar recovery and
abd pull all your /system
in case something goes wrong. mm will be nice of you can make a DUMP from the system, i guess bootloader policy will be the same, but why dont try check if its signed??? i dont remember exactly the command but something like
fastboot secure key or something like that i will check later.
why you think you have the latest webtop??? version??? or what
to be honest seems pretty interesting having a dump for mexico atrix. i hope you can do it ;D good luck.
ps. after a backup of the /system and installl recovery make a nan backup. the worst could happen its you brick the device... you need push the files again if that not working maybe using telsta sbf to restore... root again and then nand restore.
Hi, i´m from Mexico too, this weekend i install gingerblur 3.5 on my Telcel Atrix it looks very nice, but i had some troubles with the gprs configuration i can´t conect my phone to internet, i don´t know whats the problem, can you help me please??? Thank you!!! Please send me a PM.
Please, please, please help me, it´s my first time on Android and i don´t know nothing about this S.O. !!! i use Symbian for the last 6 years =S
Hablan español quizá sería más fácil comunicarnos via mensaje personal en español??
pacherecords said:
Hi, i´m from Mexico too, this weekend i install gingerblur 3.5 on my Telcel Atrix it looks very nice, but i had some troubles with the gprs configuration i can´t conect my phone to internet, i don´t know whats the problem, can you help me please??? Thank you!!! Please send me a PM.
Please, please, please help me, it´s my first time on Android and i don´t know nothing about this S.O. !!! i use Symbian for the last 6 years =S
Hablan español quizá sería más fácil comunicarnos via mensaje personal en español??
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I'd rather answer you here (not PM) so more people can benefit from the conversation (tenemos que usar inglés por ser un portal internacional).
Did you noticed that both your APNs got wiped (Internet and MMS)?
Did you recreated them?
You can find the APN configuration instructions on Telcel's website (you can use any Android phone as example).
Once you take care of the APN configuration, you should be fine.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Telcel Gingerblur went wrong.
hey guys, I rooted my Telcel's atrix two weeks ago, and I decided to gingerblur it, but I had several issues:
Lock screen doesn't work, if you click volume buttons or power button, it send you inmediatly to home screen, even if you configured it.
home button doesn't work, you can't pass from one app to another but only to return home screen with the back button.
Airplane mode was erased, GPS didn't work at all.
at least after 6 hours working telcel sent me the GPRS configs.
I tried At&T frlash rom but it became worse, GPRS conection didn't work and GPS couldn't turned on.
Right now i'm trying to recover some funcionality with the Build OLYEM U4 International Rom.
Does anybody of you has a Tenfar system image? If so please post it.
hectorgironc said:
hey guys, I rooted my Telcel's atrix two weeks ago, and I decided to gingerblur it, but I had several issues:
Lock screen doesn't work, if you click volume buttons or power button, it send you inmediatly to home screen, even if you configured it.
home button doesn't work, you can't pass from one app to another but only to return home screen with the back button.
Airplane mode was erased, GPS didn't work at all.
at least after 6 hours working telcel sent me the GPRS configs.
I tried At&T frlash rom but it became worse, GPRS conection didn't work and GPS couldn't turned on.
Right now i'm trying to recover some funcionality with the Build OLYEM U4 International Rom.
Does anybody of you has a Tenfar system image? If so please post it.
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Did you wiped before installing the rom?
Go back to restore and do several cache and dalvik cache wipes and then try to boot again and test.
Don't repartition your cards with Tenfar's recovery.
- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
Telcel`s APN info:
Nombre: Mexico:Telcel:Internet
APN: internet.itelcel.com
Proxy: No establecido
Puerto: No establecido
Nom. De Usuario: webgprs
Contraseña: webgprs2003
Protocolo de autenticación: PAP
Servidor: No establecido
MMSC: No establecido
Proxy MMS: No establecido
Puerto MMS: No establecido
MCC: 334
MNC: 020
Tipo de APN: default,agps,fota,supl,fota,tether,mms
Saludos
Hola Compitas,
Hey Rayan remember me? epuk in esato forums?
I've already have an Atrix, i flashed French OLYEM_U4_2.1.1 last week that is the most recent SBF around.
Works well but data transfers in Mexico are just normal 3G, not HSDPA+ related. I didn't dump my software 'cause normally Telcel don't use the latetst software.
ATT&T SBF's aren't posible to use in Mexico, when i had my Motorola Backflip i had the same issue, so we have to attach to international releases.
Regards
Another APN Config for TELCEL:
Nombre: America Movil
APN: ba.amx
Hit Save. Currently working on my Atrix.
I just wondering if you need warranty hours you will come to stock?i hope you did a backup with recovery.
The apn above will help you
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Sent from my loved atrix ;D
Thank you, with the APN configuration now my phone rocks!!! ... i have a new question, yesterday i saw at enga****.com an firmware update "4.1.83" can i install it on my phone??
motopuk said:
Hola Compitas,
Hey Rayan remember me? epuk in esato forums?
I've already have an Atrix, i flashed French OLYEM_U4_2.1.1 last week that is the most recent SBF around.
Works well but data transfers in Mexico are just normal 3G, not HSDPA+ related. I didn't dump my software 'cause normally Telcel don't use the latetst software.
ATT&T SBF's aren't posible to use in Mexico, when i had my Motorola Backflip i had the same issue, so we have to attach to international releases.
Regards
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Hey epuk its been a really long time!
I'll contact you via pm.
Well, I'm using an at&t unlocked Atrix in Telcel without a single problem! I even got the most recent ota update via wifi! (4.1.83)
I had to manually input the internet and mms apns for Telcel though, but so far its been great with the Atrix.
Saludos,
Rayan
Sent from my Atrix using Tapatalk
pacherecords said:
Thank you, with the APN configuration now my phone rocks!!! ... i have a new question, yesterday i saw at enga****.com an firmware update "4.1.83" can i install it on my phone??
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Are you on a Telcel Atrix?
I have an unlocked AT&T Atrix on Telcel and got the update like a week ago and all is good and dandy!
Cheers!
Rayan
i have a Telcel Atrix but since i install gingerblur 3.5, the system version change from Version 4.1.57 MB860 America Movil. es. mx to Version 4.1.57 MB860.ATT.en.US, the last night i tried to get the actualization, but when the download was complete, on the display appear the message "Verification error download and try again", suggestions??
Ok,
Let's try to clarify the thing about android devices and Carrier Constrains.
AT&T Devices are very tight in security about letting the user do what they want with the device. Fortunately exist root exploits methods to gain root access and bypass those restrictions. The most serious thing comes with bootloader. Bootloader have Certificate Keys according each market. For AT&T those CERTs are unique. For the rest of the world we have some sort of International CERTs valid for LATAM and Europe. Now Ginger Blur is a Pseudo ROM, it doesn't change anything of your bootloader. Just messes up with your android framework and tries to optimize several things that came cut over on AT&T roms. For me there is no gain installing those pseudo roms on my device, just the theming. In fact i think TELCEL rom is one of the most advanced following the French OLYEM ROM 2.1.1.
We're not going to get the 1.8.3 update never. That update is meant for AT&T devices.
pacherecords said:
i have a Telcel Atrix but since i install gingerblur 3.5, the system version change from Version 4.1.57 MB860 America Movil. es. mx to Version 4.1.57 MB860.ATT.en.US, the last night i tried to get the actualization, but when the download was complete, on the display appear the message "Verification error download and try again", suggestions??
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Ok I'm not sure since I don't have a telcel atrix, but you can't install any firmware of at&t, if you are brave you can try flash at&t sbf.and see what happen, anyways if you are using ginger blur you CAN'T update, even using at&t version.so the only way you can get at&t firmware its try flash your device with sbf, always have a backup with recovery, because you will brick your device if something its wrong, and you will need recovery, in the best scenario you can flash at&t or telstra sbf successfully and you can root again and restore backup.
You shouldn't mess with your atrix if you don't have sbf, and more if its for at&t version, since could break things like bell users.
And we know how ****ty its telcel, and warranty and so on...good luck I wish you the best.
And if you have any sbf working do you mind report back? Thanks
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Sent from my loved atrix ;D
motopuk said:
Ok,
Let's try to clarify the thing about android devices and Carrier Constrains.
AT&T Devices are very tight in security about letting the user do what they want with the device. Fortunately exist root exploits methods to gain root access and bypass those restrictions. The most serious thing comes with bootloader. Bootloader have Certificate Keys according each market. For AT&T those CERTs are unique. For the rest of the world we have some sort of International CERTs valid for LATAM and Europe. Now Ginger Blur is a Pseudo ROM, it doesn't change anything of your bootloader. Just messes up with your android framework and tries to optimize several things that came cut over on AT&T roms. For me there is no gain installing those pseudo roms on my device, just the theming. In fact i think TELCEL rom is one of the most advanced following the French OLYEM ROM 2.1.1.
We're not going to get the 1.8.3 update never. That update is meant for AT&T devices.
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Hi again!
Are you saying that Telcel's Atrix is not bootloader signed?
Saludos,
Rayanmx
Sent from my Atrix using Tapatalk
Rayan,
It's signed but with diferent Certifictaes from ATT. In fact if you try to flash an ATT sbf over Telcel Atrix you'll get an Error in RSD Lite. I guess this CERTS are the same that Telestra and European Atrix models.
The bootloader is locked by request of the carriers and according to Motorola only the Xoom bootloader will be unlocked only to developers. Developers are hoping to find that this bootloader can give an idea to unlock Mobile bootloaders like the one in Atrix.
motopuk said:
Rayan,
It's signed but with diferent Certifictaes from ATT. In fact if you try to flash an ATT sbf over Telcel Atrix you'll get an Error in RSD Lite. I guess this CERTS are the same that Telestra and European Atrix models.
The bootloader is locked by request of the carriers and according to Motorola only the Xoom bootloader will be unlocked only to developers. Developers are hoping to find that this bootloader can give an idea to unlock Mobile bootloaders like the one in Atrix.
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Interesting!
I'm hopeful but honestly I doubt that would be possible (to decrypt/unlock) being Motorola the best company in encryption. As far as I know theres no single case reported but here's hoping...
But chances are that they find a workaround as 2nd init or something like that.
Sent from my Atrix using Tapatalk
strangest thing, i confirm the update and it closes and thats it. It doesnt show a download in the status bar or anything. any ideas?
Mine still says it is already upto date even though I know the 2.3.3 update is out for almost everyone else?!?
FK1983 do you have an o2 branded phone? (with o2 crap installed on/o2 boot up screen?) If so then you are probably waiting for o2 to ok the actual update as well as installing all their extra crap onto 2.3.3 before they let you update
Same probably for magicriggs and anyone else that has not recieved their updates yet. The update you are seeing will be the generic 2.3.3 update you have to wait for verizon to ok the update first then customise it with all the crap/restrictions they want on it.
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FK1983 do you have an o2 branded phone? (with o2 crap installed on/o2 boot up screen?) If so then you are probably waiting for o2 to ok the actual update as well as installing all their extra crap onto 2.3.3 before they let you update
Same probably for magicriggs and anyone else that has not recieved their updates yet. The update you are seeing will be the generic 2.3.3 update you have to wait for verizon to ok the update first then customise it with all the crap/restrictions they want on it.
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It's on Virgin Mobile, must be why?
FK1983 said:
It's on Virgin Mobile, must be why?
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It doesn't matter which network the phone is on. If you got it direct from virgin or it has the virgin boot up screen then its virgin "branded". Until virgin or any other network decides to ok the update (and make any modifications they want) unfortunately you will be waiting. Unless you unlock your boot then you can flash the generic 2.3.3 that people with unbranded phones got.
P.s i said o2 since the o2 logo is under your name
Would that be the same case with me? I originally got my XP from my carrier but I had already network unlocked it with a code that I purchased from Theunlock.ca and de-branded it with a generic R800i UK firmware where mines was originally a R800a.
Flava0ne said:
Would that be the same case with me? I originally got my XP from my carrier but I had already network unlocked it with a code that I purchased from Theunlock.ca and de-branded it with a generic R800i UK firmware where mines was originally a R800a.
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No this only applies to people with a branded phone and a locked bootloader. If you unlock your boot which you have done you can do as you did and flash the generic fw (without extra branded crap on just standard bloat) From now on you will just update using the fw posted here instead of waiting for rogers.
Cool, thanks for clearing that up a bit!
But I didn't unlock my bootloader, I can't because it came from my carrier. What I unlocked was the network and now I can use another SIM card from a different carrier on it if I wanted to. But I guess it's still the same since I was able to flash it with a generic fw already.
I had no issues with the updating itself.
But I noticed that the standard music player sometimes doesn't play sound at all. I first have to kill it with a program like 'Advanced Task Killer' and then it works again. Anyone else has this problem?
My Unlocked XP can download the update but fails on the install, its attempts to install, resets, unpacked update, then attempts to update (icon on screen goes from two dots and openbox icon, to three dots and phone with arrow above) then screen goes blank, phone boots as normal (takes about 2-3mins) then warns that update was unsuccessful after pincode entry.
Thought it might due to lack of internal space, so cleared 80 megs on application space and still no luck.
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Bricked after OTA update
My husband's Xperia play got bricked today after an OTA update. It had no customized software, just an unlocked bootloader.
Looks like this issue it's just affecting those ones with an unlocked one.
I just checked for the update manually on my PLAY earlier today and it was able to find the update. But I'm not going to install it until you can root v2.3.3 on a locked bootloader.
ritap said:
My husband's Xperia play got bricked today after an OTA update. It had no customized software, just an unlocked bootloader.
Looks like this issue it's just affecting those ones with an unlocked one.
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If you unlock your bootloader you cannot use SEUS or OTA to update your phone anymore. You will have to flash the lastest fw onto the phone. See here to 2.3.3 firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097591 also if you flash the first one you can then flash the rooted 2.3.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098736 Same goes for Da22a since your XP is unlocked
So still no way to root 2.3.3 on a locked bootloader yet, only with an unlocked bootloader at the moment? Because it's not possible for my to unlock my bootloader on my PLAY because it was originally from my carrier.
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If you unlock your bootloader you cannot use SEUS or OTA to update your phone anymore.(snip)
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I see you're right and i wish i had my husband have a look here before even thinking about it.
The problem is: while SEUS prevents you from unintentionally doing that, which i regard as fair, OTA just bricks your phone without further notice.
We've taken it to SE for repair, which they should do for an amount of euros they still haven't notified us (you see, it's out of warranty). Easy money, then: tell people how to unlock their phones and then spread some code which bricks unlocked phones .
I don't think SE speculated in making money here. It's a more like a 'here you go' now you have control over your phone to do almost what you like. The main target here I think is devs and flashaholics and such. There's always a risk involved with unlocking your bl and changing the S-ON to S-Off and such things. Ofcause you loose your warranty otherwise every john/jane does would come back and reclaim a new device when they bricked there phone. This comes from a demand within the android community that this is an option.
Further more I don't think SE knew about this. The .img to flash is not comming from We but from this community so they can't be held responsible for putting out an OTA that bricks your phone cause of what people might flash onto there phones. I hope that they will make some kind of check in the software updater similar to SEUS in the future or the ones who make flasheble .imgs will be able to disable OTA in the .imgs to come or upload a new one for people to use.
Regards Dousan...
ritap said:
I see you're right and i wish i had my husband have a look here before even thinking about it.
The problem is: while SEUS prevents you from unintentionally doing that, which i regard as fair, OTA just bricks your phone without further notice.
We've taken it to SE for repair, which they should do for an amount of euros they still haven't notified us (you see, it's out of warranty). Easy money, then: tell people how to unlock their phones and then spread some code which bricks unlocked phones .
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Im not sure SE will repair your phone. I have read other people on here have sent it in for repair and got it back the same. Today a fix for bricked phones has come out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126354. I would suggest getting your phone back from SE and fixing it yourself. Since the above thread's fix is free (you could always donate to Bin4ry & Blagus, dont know who else helped?)
I also agree with Dousans comments. Below a quote from http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
Therefore, you should only unlock the boot loader of your phone if you are an advanced user with good knowledge of the technology and risks involved. We strongly recommend that standard users NOT unlock the boot loader, as it is not needed
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Also not sure how long this has been posted on the site but se knows now and it working on a fix to stop it.
Note: We have seen in some forums that customers unlocking the boot loader on their phones have experienced problems when they accept a FOTA (Firmware upgrade Over The Air) update. The issue has been reproduced and we are working on a solution. For customers that have unlocked the boot loader please do not accept the Firmware upgrade OTA.
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Rogers official one comes July 1st. (Canada Day)
Mozza2k11 said:
Im not sure SE will repair your phone. I have read other people on here have sent it in for repair and got it back the same. Today a fix for bricked phones has come out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126354. I would suggest getting your phone back from SE and fixing it yourself. Since the above thread's fix is free (you could always donate to Bin4ry & Blagus, dont know who else helped?)
I also agree with Dousans comments. Below a quote from http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
Also not sure how long this has been posted on the site but se knows now and it working on a fix to stop it.
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You and Dousan may be right but indeed after unlocking the BL we didn't flash it; moreover, after that the phone has been working perfectly for more than a month, since the ota update of course: so it's their software which has bricked the phone, not us.
Moreover, it's true that we lost our warranty, and it's fair that those Johns/Janes won't get a new phone for free, but this doesn't allow then to spread around dangerous software and allowing free repair only to "warranty" customers.
I've already had a look at the fix described in this forum but it didn't fit, Blagus told me there was no solution, the payservers were down so i took the Play to SE...
Anyone know how to get flashtool to recognize the play? The only options are arc x10 x8 etc.
Same as this guy:
how did you guys even get the flashtool to work with the play? ive got the latest version and i keep getting an error saying it cant identify my device and the only options are for x10, x10 mini, x10 mini pro, x8 and arc, just curious
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Hi there so I am not new to rooting and flashing roms but not an expert either. I have a Xperia play I got from Verizon(yes horrid verizon) few problems as I can see I cant unlock bootloader, I assume this because in configurations settings there is no root option or even a bootloader unlock yes or no so from what iveread im screwed in that area.
My other problem is and htis is now on 3 phones of xperia play verizon has sent me they all have version of android 2.3.2 and when i try to do the manual update I get this mssg and I have bene trying this on all the ones they sent me and even contacted them with sony on the line and they cant understand why(morons). only solution is to send to them but perhaps someone here can help me. Here is the mssg. it tells me there was an error downloading hte software and it please try again later it has said this for weeks since ive had it everytime i try even after doing a hardreset and this is on all 3 xperia plays they have sent me so it must be something they have done.
Can I still manual update it at least to 2.3.4 using the method from sony and discussed on here using a flashtool x10 but im not sur what version of flash to use since they show like 3 main ones for different types and if so if im using windows what version of flashtool for my xperia play from verizon would i get for my xperia play r800x?
Any ideas and help would be great thanks agian.
You can use the latest one.
Hi talrune,
I'll try to answer some of the questions you posted, but I may be wrong on some things. (If anyone can see anything wrong please feel free to correct me) As far as rooting the device it can be done. It has been awhile since I rooted mine and I cannot remember how I did it. I'm sure a quick google search will pull it up. As far as the bootloader, you can unlock it but you have to pay to have it unlocked. Alejandrissimo was offering this service a while back and I assume he still is. If you would like to get your bootloader unlocked you will have to get in touch with him.
I do not know why you would be having trouble with upgrading to 2.3.4 from Verizon OTA. I am pretty sure however that you cannot use flashtool to install the update without having an unlocked bootloader. Also, the directions from sony are no good. Unless they have changed things they want you to use PC companion or something to download and install the update. This works fine, however, when they ask you to connect the phone they require they phone be connected in MTP mode (I believe) and there is no way to put the R800x into this mode. I called sony and they asked me to go into the system menu and go to the Sony Erriccson tab, but this tab does not exist on the verizon phones (dang verizon!!!)
If you have the money I would strongly suggest getting the bootloader unlocked. It is extremely helpful when Verizon fails in epic fashion. Plus its fun to play around with different roms and kernels. Goodluck :laugh:
with a locked-bootloader flashtool should work, but fastboot should not.
there a firmware stickied in the Development forum for the VZW R800x
As the title says, It seems the bureaucrats at EE UK network are using phones that cannot be bootloader unlocked, even if Sony do allow, albeit with some loss of features.
Considering I flashed a generic rom, and my important photos/whatsapp files got wiped (I forgot to backup) as it was stated with flashtool only account based user data will get wiped not data from internal memory/sd card, well that didn't work.
I needed to root to allow some recovery software get my photos/whatsapp files back.
Now finding that the booloader is unlockable . I just want to throw the phone at the kunts at EE management. " EE the UK's biggest and fastest growing, bunch of dicks!"
Is their anybody else on EE who's bootloader is unlockable?
I'm so depressed with this all.
You needed to root to recover deleted files that you deleted by rooting?
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As the title says, It seems the bureaucrats at EE UK network are using phones that cannot be bootloader unlocked, even if Sony do allow, albeit with some loss of features.
Considering I flashed a generic rom, and my important photos/whatsapp files got wiped (I forgot to backup) as it was stated with flashtool only account based user data will get wiped not data from internal memory/sd card, well that didn't work.
I needed to root to allow some recovery software get my photos/whatsapp files back.
Now finding that the booloader is unlockable . I just want to throw the phone at the kunts at EE management. " EE the UK's biggest and fastest growing, bunch of dicks!"
Is their anybody else on EE who's bootloader is unlockable?
I'm so depressed with this all.
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In Poland Orange locks bootloaders for good in SONY devices, as I know there are tricks to make it unlockable, but not sure if possible to do it at home.
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You needed to root to recover deleted files that you deleted by rooting?
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I have not rooted yet, have only applied a generic less bloated rom. But now I need to root, so I can use software like 'hexamob recovery' which needs root to access the internal memory.
Tbh, the photo's I took that got wiped are sentimentally so important, hence me getting so stressed about it.
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In Poland Orange locks bootloaders for good in SONY devices, as I know there are tricks to make it unlockable, but not sure if possible to do it at home.
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Oh, so orange there do the same. Here its now T-mobile/orange joined together as EE.
There must be a way to change that Bootloader state to yes. I know Orange/EE won't do it. Many people have asked in their forums about similar devices.
Thx for the insight tho...
I'll be totally honest with you here & you wont like the answer...
...if it says "bootloader unlock allowed: no" it will most probably stay that way.
My last Sony phone was from O2 & it was the same story.
The history of Sony phones with that state have stayed that way, as far as I'm aware
This means, once (optimistic) we get root you will only be able to flash stock based roms
Considering rooting newer versions of android seem to be getting more difficult, finding a way to bypass the bootloader is going to be near impossible...never say never but don't hold your breath.
The only Sony phone I had where the bootloader got unlocked unofficially was the X10 mini pro (beast phone) & that is when they were still Sony Ericsson & over 2 years after release (luckily back then you could flash CM / AOSP etc with locked bootloader, not any more though!)
Best bet is, give the phone back & buy it from a reseller like Clove / Handtec if unlocking the bootloader is that important to you & its not a contract deal you're after (or get sim only contract or something...PAYG FTW)
Otherwise, remember this for next time...
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I have not rooted yet, have only applied a generic less bloated rom. But now I need to root, so I can use software like 'hexamob recovery' which needs root to access the internal memory.
Tbh, the photo's I took that got wiped are sentimentally so important, hence me getting so stressed about it.
Oh, so orange there do the same. Here its now T-mobile/orange joined together as EE.
There must be a way to change that Bootloader state to yes. I know Orange/EE won't do it. Many people have asked in their forums about similar devices.
Thx for the insight tho...
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I'll be totally honest with you here & you wont like the answer...
...if it says "bootloader unlock allowed: no" it will most probably stay that way.
My last Sony phone was from O2 & it was the same story.
The history of Sony phones with that state have stayed that way, as far as I'm aware
This means, once (optimistic) we get root you will only be able to flash stock based roms
Considering rooting newer versions of android seem to be getting more difficult, finding a way to bypass the bootloader is going to be near impossible...never say never but don't hold your breath.
The only Sony phone I had where the bootloader got unlocked unofficially was the X10 mini pro (beast phone) & that is when they were still Sony Ericsson & over 2 years after release (luckily back then you could flash CM / AOSP etc with locked bootloader, not any more though!)
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What phroenix said is true.
From Xperia T (2012) onwards, there's no chance to get the bootloader unlocked if you read "bootloader unlock allowed: no".
@davestuarts Your old customization was 1289-4465 (T-mobile/EE) so I'm making a new FTF for you with that old firmware, let's try this way
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What phroenix said is true.
From Xperia T (2012) onwards, there's no chance to get the bootloader unlocked if you read "bootloader unlock allowed: no".
Sony, will they ever learn. I'm glad I didn't get rid of my viper running One X yet.
Tbh, the Sony layer on kitkit is pretty good considering and I'm plenty happy keeping stock roms, My main things are to run exposed and xprivacy.
@davestuarts Your old customization was 1289-4465 (T-mobile/EE) so I'm making a new FTF for you with that old firmware, let's try this way
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Thanks istux, appreciate the help and less stress feeling.
Tha
Has anyone got any idea when lollipop will be released in the UK for the Sony Z1 C6903 ??
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open a new Thread for this?
I think they will certify a new firmware and fix the current issues and rool it out to every region, just be patient current realese is bad; no clear audio, charging issue, memory issue...
Still looking forward to it.
is past updates are anything to go by it'll be months before we get it
I thought of that too. I think that they will release another firmware with bugs fixed...
I tweeted Xperia UK and had no reply yet, also tweeted 3 UK as my phone was from them and they did come back but said they have no timescale yet
I don't understand the logic one of the largest and most lucrative markets has to wait the longest.
I just installed the HK prerooted firmware after doing a full backup its in English and i have everything working.
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I just installed the HK prerooted firmware after doing a full backup its in English and i have everything working.
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I'm new to the Z1 but I wouldn't recommend that ROM because the Hong Kong release is for the GLOBAL-LTE network. You want something like the generic France release which uses EURO-LTE.
Here's what I did.
1. Use XperiFirm and download 1276-5833 (Generic France that uses the same EURO-LTE network as the UK)
2. Use Flashtool to create an FTF from the download
3. Use PRFCreator to pre-root the ROM. Include SuperSU, XZDualRecovery (flashable) and select all of the checkboxes
4. Copy the flashable ZIP to your phone
5. Boot to TWRP and wipe cache, data, dalvik, system and then select to install the ZIP that you copied to the phone
You can debloat the ROM by using a file manager that supports root e.g. ES File Explorer.
Here's a question for everyone though. Is the option to use GSM (2G) only removed from Lollipop? I don't see the option anymore and I'm not sure if it's due to a region specific /vendor/overlay/ change.
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....................Here's a question for everyone though. Is the option to use GSM (2G) only removed from Lollipop? I don't see the option anymore and I'm not sure if it's due to a region specific /vendor/overlay/ change.
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nope......I have Generic IT 1276-0557 and I HAVE the option to use GSM(2G) only.........
cingolat said:
nope......I have Generic IT 1276-0557 and I HAVE the option to use GSM(2G) only.........
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Thanks.
So it's going to be a country specifc change in /vendor/overlay/ then. What people don't realise is that the ROM's they're installing for other countries are all slightly different. Some of them will display LTE instead of 4G, some will restrict options and some won't use things like fast dormancy. The included apps and basebands are also different.
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Thanks.
So it's going to be a country specifc change in /vendor/overlay/ then. What people don't realise is that the ROM's they're installing for other countries are all slightly different. Some of them will display LTE instead of 4G, some will restrict options and some won't use things like fast dormancy. The included apps and basebands are also different.
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yes.....I think the same me too.......is for that reason that I had and I will install always rom from my specific country, and it's for that reason that I make a post with pre-rooted lollipop generic IT for Italian people, where I came from :highfive:
Rumoured to be tomorrow morning for z1 O2 in the UK. Z1c gets it later on the same day. According to posts in O2 forums.
Looks like Vodafone version is released. Nothing on other carriers or generic
It's not on Vodafone as yet either via OTA or PC Companion, as I've just checked...]
It's available via PC Companion ...
Yup, Vodafone rolling out now on PC but no OTA!
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Rumoured to be tomorrow morning for z1 O2 in the UK. Z1c gets it later on the same day. According to posts in O2 forums.
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Wow that was pretty accurate.
The generic, O2 and Vodafone versions have been released. Mines a Vodafone version and it offers me the update via the phone itself, but I'm going to flash the generic one since I don't actually use Vodafone and don't want any of their bundled apps.
Apart from an app called Discover and one called Updates; those are the only two "forced apps" on the Z1 via Vodafone. Which of course can be disabled...
Sky Sports Mobile TV no longer works, I've posted a comment on their forum to make them aware of this issue