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[Journal] My Road to Becoming a Great Developer

My Road to Becoming a Great Developer
Intro
Hello I am Kifno. I have had my HTC Hero CDMA for a short period of time and I've fallen in love with it and everything about it. I love testing out other developer's apps, tweaks, mods, themes, roms, kernels, etc. I also have recently gotten into the modding and tweaking aspect of our hero's too. Some of you may know me from my tweaked build.prop's. But I have decided that I want to be known as a great developer for the HTC Hero CDMA. I am going to keep this thread as a journal during my journey to becoming a great developer, posting what I have learned, accomplished, created, modded, tweaked, etc. that is making me one step closer to reaching that goal. Hopefully during my journey you all will appreciate some of my work for our HTC hero CDMA devices.
1/22/11
- Working on v0.7 of my tweaked build.prop's
- reading the c programming language (chapter 1)
My Work So Far
Kifno's[Tweaked] Build.prop v0.6​

reserved for future use

reserved for future use #2

reserved for future use #3

last reserved post i think that'll be all i need

Developer for editing a text file values? Right, I wonder what programming that is? By the way, does Aosp know your editing his builds and redistributing them?

thats a lot of reservations!

I'M ON A JOURNEY TO BE THE GREATEST DEV FOR THE HTC HERO CDMA
good luck, we already have the best dev's for it.

SimranSingh said:
Developer for editing a text file values? Right, I wonder what programming that is? By the way, does Aosp know your editing his builds and redistributing them?
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I'm new to becoming a developer. My first piece of work is simple, editing the build.prop from other developer's roms. And I'm learning how to program and learn the c language and learning java so I can do bigger and better things for the HTC Hero CDMA. And as a matter of fact not only did I make a editing build.prop for aosp but aosp as of last 2 updates to his new gingerbread rom has implemented my editing build.prop into his gingerbread rom by default so I'm pretty sure aosp know's i'm editing the build.prop to make the hero better for the community. That is why aosp is keeping it implemented into his rom by default. Please be positive here I'm on a journey to become a great dev and all great dev's started small okay. Remember I'm NEW to becoming a dev.
dburg84 said:
thats a lot of reservations!
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Yeah I plan on sticking with the HTC Hero CDMA for a WHILE!

No need to be negative guys. At least he's going out and working for it. That's a lot more than 90% of people here can say. Most are too lazy to learn and want others to do it for them. Really can't believe that on xda we have at least two guys who who would actually try and discourage someone from developing. I think you guys need to check yourselves. Pathetic.
To kifno, goodluck friend and best wishes! I can't wait to see what you do!
Sent from my 2.2 Hero

Wow lets watch the negative.. Glad there are still people who want to progress the hero.. And he isn't taking claim of anyones rom he is editing the build.prop giving people some extra tweaks to make our phones quicker.. Kudos on your hard work kifno and there are some big shoes to fill around here and someone needs to do it.. I plan on trying but its hard to make time with life right now for me, so thank you for giving it a shot..
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Darch was the greatest and I believe he retired the cdma hero lol
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dirkyd3rk said:
Darch was the greatest and I believe he retired the cdma hero lol
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Unfortunately for the hero I believe you are right..
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pstevep said:
Unfortunately for the hero I believe you are right..
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Fortunately aosp still has one.

MrDowntown12 said:
No need to be negative guys.
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I think you guys need to check yourselves. Pathetic.
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No need to be negative.

stayclean said:
Fortunately aosp still has one.
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amen to that
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I agree.... Good luck cant wait to see some more of ur work....

androidnoob111 said:
I agree.... Good luck cant wait to see some more of ur work....
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By the time he becomes a "great dev " he will be the only person owning a cdma heroc, 3ghz processors will be out lmfao
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not that i'm going to stop learning how to develope things for the hero but why does everyone have to just be so negative......i just want to help everyone
but i'm going to continue learning regardless of what others say

kifno said:
not that i'm going to stop learning how to develope things for the hero but why does everyone have to just be so negative......i just want to help everyone
but i'm going to continue learning regardless of what others say
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We aren't trying to be negative. Our point is that you haven't developed anything in reality. Just editing a properties in a file isn't developing, but it does take some knowledge to know what you are going to edit . Nonetheless, you are trying to become the greatest developer, but really you are in the 1st chapter of your C Programming book. It's going to take you maybe another 3 - 5 books to actually understand what's happening. Instead of striving to become the "Greatest" developer, why not focus on just becoming a developer at first

[REQ] THINK TANK Honeycomb ROM

Honeycomb has been ported to the Desire HD! Proof and download link below!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959324
Is there any chance a dev could port this rom over for the Nexus S, not looking for it to be fully functional but would be good to play around with!
Bratfink

The development forum isn't for requests.

zephiK said:
The development forum isn't for requests.
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It should be, other DEV sections have [REQ] [THINK TANK]
Devs dont go looking in general section. And pretty much if they get moved there they will be overlooked.
But OP should change headline its little missleading

demo23019 said:
It should be.
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But it isn't.
Just a heads up to every body.
The Nexus S Android Development will be reserved only for real Development projects and discussion, that includes:
[DEV]
[GUIDE]
[HOWTO]
[HACK]
[MOD]
[APP]
[FIX]
[REF]
[REQ]uest, [Q]uestions, [BOUNTY]ies, ideas, comments, and All other topics will be moved to Nexus S General, Nexus S Q&A or any other applicable section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889974
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I would LOVE to try out HoneyComb on the Nexus S

I have posted here because it is development based, it isnt general information about the Nexus S, however i realised the title was misleading and have changed it! I hope this gets a lot of devs attention and someone much more able than myself manages to build a ROM!

I agree, I'd love to see it soon.

i would definitely give this an install if it gets ported

+1, I would love a honeycomb port as well.

I think the first step to get it to boot would be to make a boot.img with the ramdisk and kernel provided in the sdk..
Sent from my Nexus S

Yeah, I'd love to see this port also, Honeycomb seems really cool from the videos I've seen for far, it'd be awesome to have it running on my Nexus S

Iv also heard its been ported to the EVO 4G, really hopped MODs would have left this in the DEV section so it actually got noticed by the people with the ability to do something about it!

They should have left this in the developer section
Do none of the developers read the general section at all?

Honeycomb sdk port now available for the Nexus One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961994

Wait 4 days until they asop 3.0 and it'll be easier.

iKitsunee said:
They should have left this in the developer section
Do none of the developers read the general section at all?
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It was not a post that should have been in the development section, it got moved, get over it.
ryan562 said:
Honeycomb sdk port now available for the Nexus One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961994
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That is good news, I'm sure it will get ported for us soon.
JCopernicus said:
Wait 4 days until they asop 3.0 and it'll be easier.
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You're probably right. Dollars to donuts one of our amazing devs will cook up a honeycomb ROM soon.

I don't see the point in HC on phones, if its aimed at Tablets with its UI interfaces and large Graphics, whats the point in having those OSK Arrows e.c.t
The only cool thing in HC is those animated backgrounds, apart from that thats it really.
I'd Rather see 2.3.3 running so we can mess about with NFC's and such, or 2.4 in late march.

hutzdani said:
I don't see the point in HC on phones, if its aimed at Tablets with its UI interfaces and large Graphics, whats the point in having those OSK Arrows e.c.t
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The point is "waste time".
Everybody can see that the Honeycomb UI isn't good for smartphones.

id like to see it on nexus S :3

I really hope someone ports this soon. I'm pretty excited to just mess around with honeycomb even if its only an early version.

[REQUEST DEVS] Some things to do

mirror solution
better webtop soluction
RADIO FM solution
better root solution
CM7 build
Sense Build
MIUI Build
Touch witz Build
HTC Sensation Keyboard Port for Atrix
native mvk and others good codecs support to webtop/mediacenter/phone
Modifications on MediaCenter?!(it is possible?!)
OC kernel
if anyone remember more post here

Requesting a dev to work on something without a payout is like going to a mechanic and saying, "yeah I want my car to have 800HP, but I am not paying you for it. just do it. "
If you are wanting this done fast, get about 2 grand into a paypal and be ready to drop it for someone to work. These people do this stuff for free! Stop demanding!
When something is available then it will be posted. If you arent willing to work on it yourself, stop posting. The devs know what the community wants, they are not retarded. I really wish these posts would stop popping up.
Kthnx.

stop do this =/.....I only want do a topic with all we want ...and reegroup here when its done too simplify

EclipseX said:
better root solution
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204

90% of those requests are terrible. Why would devs waste time putting other manafacturers skins on our phone? If you want sense so bad, why the hell didn't you buy an HTC phone?

detroitjb said:
90% of those requests are terrible. Why would devs waste time putting other manafacturers skins on our phone? If you want sense so bad, why the hell didn't you buy an HTC phone?
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Thats the idea behind eval-'s thread. If people want to pledge money to it and a developer wants to pick it up it happens.

i requested help for a kernel without thermal throttling in Q&A because we are many with phone working at 50%...
if they help us i can buy them a coffee, no problem

There is already a touchwiz launcher floating around here somewhere so yea.
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malfuncion said:
Requesting a dev to work on something without a payout is like going to a mechanic and saying, "yeah I want my car to have 800HP, but I am not paying you for it. just do it."
Kthnx.
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Not that I entirely disagree people shouldn't ask to much of devs, but that statement doesn't work
a mechanic would do work on your car, and it would only be your car. A dev makes something once and everyone can use it. Surely you see a difference?
If you went to a mechanic and asked him to figure out how to make all of a certain model of car have 800HP, and he had the same model car, its a but of a different situation.
That said, whatever devs dev I'm happy with, just felt the need to point out the mechanic analogy doesn't suit this.
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Glad to see people still posting useless threads in the dev section
Can we get this moved to general?

You want it ? Learn to do it yourself... lots of info thats all easy to access with google. Mr. Clown please Close this useless thread

Another good thing is native mvk and others good codecs support.

Ririal said:
Glad to see people still posting useless threads in the dev section
Can we get this moved to general?
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You my friend should be a mod lol they are all pointless threads

EclipseX said:
mirror solution
better webtop soluction
RADIO FM solution
better root solution
CM7 build
Sense Build
MIUI Build
Touch witz Build
HTC Sensation Keyboard Port for Atrix
OC kernel
if anyone remember more post here
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Just by writing ' request devs' in the title of the thread doesn't make it a dev. thread. Patience is the key. Post things like this in general section.
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firefox3 said:
You my friend should be a mod lol they are all pointless threads
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Not ALL pointless...
Atrix ~_~

I demand a real reason.

Edit: delete.

Cool story bro
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WHOA there, Charles Dickens. I didn’t open this thread to proof read a novel.
I don't understand why people think that they deserve a rom, kernal or mod just because they own a phone.
If you want it so bad, learn how to develop.

Monkey Pox said:
WHOA there, Charles Dickens. I didn’t open this thread to proof read a novel.
I don't understand why people think that they deserve a rom, kernal or mod just because they own a phone.
If you want it so bad, learn how to develop.
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I'm assuming you didn't read my Steven King novel in Post 1?
viper786 said:
Cool story bro
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You guys should know that most of my posts are novels.

Grrr stupid thank button right next to quote...
I didn't realize you were employing the developers and supporting there families. Since that is the case you obviously deserve and answer as to why your needs and schedules have not been met...
Perhaps you should learn how to develop so you don't have to rely on others. **** or get off the pot...
(Yes I realize I stepped under the bridge in making this response. PS: Nut swingers from the other thread, this is how you troll...)

Ha ha, just too funny of a read.

machx0r said:
Grrr stupid thank button right next to quote...
I didn't realize you were employing the developers and supporting there families. Since that is the case you obviously deserve and answer as to why your needs and schedules have not been met...
Perhaps you should learn how to develop so you don't have to rely on others. **** or get off the pot...
(Yes I realize I stepped under the bridge in making this response. PS: Nut swingers from the other thread, this is how you troll...)
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What do you mean?
I'm not. It's not about a schedule. It's about why the other people have it and we don't.
"And don't tell me to become a developer. These developers are geniuses and have been doing this for a long time."
nikon120 said:
Ha ha, just too funny of a read.
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At least you read it.

And I quote,
I know you're all thinking this, I'm just the first to Post it
Why? I mean really, why?
Please don't speak for me. I don't share your sentiment. I'm a little more informed than that.
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Original Android <3ers! said:
What do you mean?
I'm not. It's not about a schedule. It's about why the other people have it and we don't.
"And don't tell me to become a developer. These developers are geniuses and have been doing this for a long time."
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What do you mean what do I mean?
Why do you feel that anyone owes you anything? Why do you get to call people who are giving you something for free (even if it's not what you want) lazy?
You sound pretty lazy considering you're just whining about not having CM on your Epic rather than taking time to learn how to help.

Original Android <3ers! said:
At least you read it.
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I skimmed up to the point where you said you blame the developers. Basically had to laugh at the sheer audacity of posting this drivel. If your story is actually real and represents your life right now, then you should try finding a different hobby.

Why don't you become a dev and prove you can do it better.... talk is cheap my friend...... imo our devs are awesome and we have tons of roms and themes..... and we have some great kernels..... we may not be as great as some other communities but we're a hell of alot better than at least 75% of the other communities......

Of course blame the devs who do this **** for free. That will obviously motivate them to keep creating roms.
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Calm down, we don't have cm7 because our devs don't want to have to reinvent the wheel when 2.3 kernel source is coming soon.
Everything they are doing is guess and check, they are deving blind. With the kernel source to gingerbread they will have less work.
Why does the hero have CM7? Why does the motorola defy have CM7?
Because the dev's there know that gingerbread source will never happen for their phones, so they got to work and boy they had a lot of work. However, with the giant userbase those phones had they could spread out the work amongst a large base of dev's to finish it.
For us, We don't have as many devs, so such a task would be a huge undertaking for our devs. This may be a task our devs will have to face with Ice Cream Sandwich but with Gingerbread, Samsung has the potential to do 60% of the work for us by releasing the gingerbread kernel source.
So, Why make the effort when you don't have to?

lynyrd65 said:
Calm down, we don't have cm7 because our devs don't want to have to reinvent the wheel when 2.3 kernel source is coming soon.
Everything they are doing is guess and check, they are deving blind. With the kernel source to gingerbread they will have less work.
Why does the hero have CM7? Why does the motorola defy have CM7?
Because the dev's there know that gingerbread source will never happen for their phones, so they got to work and boy they had a lot of work. However, with the giant userbase those phones had they could spread out the work amongst a large base of dev's to finish it.
For us, We don't have as many devs, so such a task would be a huge undertaking for our devs. This may be a task our devs will have to face with Ice Cream Sandwich but with Gingerbread, Samsung has the potential to do 60% of the work for us by releasing the gingerbread kernel source.
So, Why make the effort when you don't have to?
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+1
This is are hobbie not are job. Source is to needed to simplify things. Gb on the hero is a highly modified eclair kernel. Cause of this not all the gingerbread features/enactments work on the hero. I know this cause my spare hero is running gingerbread. In my honest opinion the hero runs better on eclair.
so ask your self this one question. You want a fully functional gingerbread experience or a hacked up one?
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if you dont like the current state of development, the develop, or shut the **** up

I've given up on answering this guy. I told him to go back to his G1 if he liked cm so much.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

chris41g said:
if you dont like the current state of development, the develop, or shut the **** up
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+1
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Alright I see what you're all saying. I was wrong. My bad.

This forum needs hugs!
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worldwidepmp said:
This forum needs hugs!
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I applaud you.
I'm feeling particularly froggy on the forum tonight.
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HTC sense 4.0 on galaxy s 2

Hi guys!
First let me say that i'm not whining but rather thinking at high voice and sharing my thoughts!
I seriously don't understand why people at SGS2 forums don't work on porting HTC sense 4.0 on this beast!
And please don't say "do it yourself" because if i knew how to do it i would have done it but i'm a civil engineer and have nothing in developing.
Imagine one of the best hardware with the best software!!!
I know sense has flaws but it's way better than Touchwiz or AOSP / AOKP / CM9 etc...
As i dare to ask that question I know you might say "hey what are you doing here then?! Go buy an HTC etc..." and will probably flame me!
But really i am very afraid of buying a HTC one X or One S coz i've been hearing and reading about the hardware flaws : signal losses, battery issues, screen issues, coating issues, sound issues etc...
The old good HTC is, unfortunately i say, gone! The good hardware build and quality of HTC desire or HD2 is gone! They are making a lot of mistakes in terms of hardware design!
Bottom line, can you try port HTC sense 4.0/ICS to our beloved S2?!?
And please don't tell me it can't be done because it is now being ported to Samsung nexus S and Samsung galaxy nexus!
If many agrees with me we can even start a bounty!
Thanks,

This is just a repeat of similar posts lasting nearly a year now . Seems either no interest or Devs are finding problems . Thats also a similar reply to last weeks .
Guess a big bounty may kick start it post me ten K and i will start .
jje

Existing Sense Porting Thread
first result in a google search

JJEgan said:
This is just a repeat of similar posts lasting nearly a year now . Seems either no interest or Devs are finding problems . Thats also a similar reply to last weeks .
Guess a big bounty may kick start it post me ten K and i will start .
jje
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Darkside Agent said:
Existing Sense Porting Thread
first result in a google search
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Yeah but these guys are left alone and no experienced developers / coders are helping in the project! That's why the project is in Coma right now!

You try hacking closed source software to work on proprietary hardware that the software was never designed for... We then can talk about "Getting sense on this beast". The day I see sense on my SGS2 (Or SGS3, or SGS4) is the day I do the zulu dance buck naked in winter.

Life Engineer said:
Yeah but these guys are left alone and no experienced developers / coders are helping in the project! That's why the project is in Coma right now!
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That is the answer the skilled guys for whatever reason are not interested and never have been .
jje

Doubt it'll happen, cos general consensus is to do away with custom interfaces completely and even if given a choice most will have touchwiz which is less intrusive, than sense.

ports for galaxy nexus and nexus s are still very pre-alpha they barely boot and nothing usable about them. in my opinion this port will never happen and if it happened it will not be ready for daily use.

Life Engineer said:
Hi guys!
First let me say that i'm not whining but rather thinking at high voice and sharing my thoughts!
I seriously don't understand why people at SGS2 forums don't work on porting HTC sense 4.0 on this beast!
And please don't say "do it yourself" because if i knew how to do it i would have done it but i'm a civil engineer and have nothing in developing.
Imagine one of the best hardware with the best software!!!
I know sense has flaws but it's way better than Touchwiz or AOSP / AOKP / CM9 etc...
As i dare to ask that question I know you might say "hey what are you doing here then?! Go buy an HTC etc..." and will probably flame me!
But really i am very afraid of buying a HTC one X or One S coz i've been hearing and reading about the hardware flaws : signal losses, battery issues, screen issues, coating issues, sound issues etc...
The old good HTC is, unfortunately i say, gone! The good hardware build and quality of HTC desire or HD2 is gone! They are making a lot of mistakes in terms of hardware design!
Bottom line, can you try port HTC sense 4.0/ICS to our beloved S2?!?
And please don't tell me it can't be done because it is now being ported to Samsung nexus S and Samsung galaxy nexus!
If many agrees with me we can even start a bounty!
Thanks,
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let me tell you why developers are not doing that............. its ******* impossible as our eyxnos chip does not support sense for that we need to recode/ remake the whole ui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you see!! wait until htc releases an eyxnos featured phone...................

Shen has already done it for sense 3.5 so its not impossible... he just needs to figure out all the niggles and whatnots.
PS: Could some moderator close this thread?
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beston94 said:
Shen has already done it for sense 3.5 so its not impossible... he just needs to figure out all the niggles and whatnots.
PS: Could some moderator close this thread?
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And he's friend managed to port sense 4, nothing new after that thou
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beston94 said:
Shen has already done it for sense 3.5 so its not impossible... he just needs to figure out all the niggles and whatnots.
PS: Could some moderator close this thread?
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If its ported then where is the,pre-alpha version????? Huh?????
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Anyone developer port this?

JuanitoDog said:
Anyone developer port this?
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No.
End of topic

thanks for raising this issue again !!
I have already posted a thread about the developers not being "actively" interesting in porting HTC sense UI to our beloved SGS II.
( For your interest : Just search SGS I and Nexus S forms and see what Qube2 and Swamp globin are doing )
Non of them even replied about what exact difficulties they might have !!
It's not " just a UI " it's UI with the best implementation of twitter, facebook, weather, email ,,,, etc.
Probably your post will be moved to Q/A subform where you will never get any chance that real developers would see it.
Again thanks for bringing this up again

Oweida said:
I have already posted a thread about the developers not being "actively" interesting in porting HTC sense UI to our beloved SGS II.
( For your interest : Just search SGS I and Nexus S forms and see what Qube2 and Swamp globin are doing )
Non of them even replied about what exact difficulties they might have !!
It's not " just a UI " it's UI with the best implementation of twitter, facebook, weather, email ,,,, etc.
Probably your post will be moved to Q/A subform where you will never get any chance that real developers would see it.
Again thanks for bringing this up again
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I had galaxy s and htc sense port was great but s2 nah not supported by sense. There is only one hope that of htc releases a exyenos powered phone and sense ui will.be easily ported even if it is 4.0. I personally love sense ui if want sense theme and awsome stocks launchers check out this.
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Sense launcher thread link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582150
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if u wanna sense go and buy htc device that's it

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Dead again
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Can.some.body.close this.thread because its always dead!!!
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