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Hey Guys;
So this is my rant about the Samsung Focus. I'll try to keep this brief.
I've been a huge fan of the Zune HD and since day one I've said that I'd switch if they ever add phone features (I was on a 3Gs at the time.)
So enter WP7; I LOVE the UI SOOO much that even though it's missing some really key things I was willing to overlook that and still got the Focus.
- I called AT&T to make sure they'd let me unlock it BEFORE I bought it because I'm taking a trip to Europe for a few months so I need to be able to use their local SIM. AT&T said "NO problem!" Once I got the phone however it turned into "We're not allowing it to be unlocked for 6 Months" (AT&T Sucks)
- It was suppose to take 15 minutes to active, it took 2 days (AT&T sucks)
- found out that WP7 doesn't connect to wireless networks that don't broadcast SSIDs (MS is clueless!) UPDATE: I take this one back... Still a pain, but maybe I'm being harsh...
But even after all these ridiculous issues that had me calling AT&T OVER AND OVER again, I was willing to keep the Phone....
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future! mad:) I've been able to get it to sync, but it errors out before it finishes and then it's unstable. Shooting errors out all the time. Came across this forum: http://tinyurl.com/focus-outlook
So now I'm about to crawl back to the OS I abandoned (android)
Worse of all; I put my 32Gb MicroSD card in the Focus and although it works great, I can't figure out how to format it and get it usable on other devices again. Only the focus can see it now... (has someone come across a fix for that yet?)
So there you have it... I'm not having a good phone week...
kcasante said:
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future!
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Firstly, the lastest Exchange is 2010 If you're not already on it, you really need to! It's awesome!
My Omnia 7 synched up first time, I really didn't expect it to be able to deal with the client certificate, but it seems to handle it all invisibly. I'm very, very, (VERY!), impressed by how flawlessly it has worked.
If you're not on Exchange 2010, you need to get your company into the Microsoft Partner Network and you will get licences for nearly all of the latest software. We jumped a version (from 2003 to 2010) and the improvement is gobsmacking. Exchange 2010 is so much more efficient, the servers are flying!
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Firstly, the lastest Exchange is 2010 If you're not already on it, you really need to! It's awesome!
My Omnia 7 synched up first time, I really didn't expect it to be able to deal with the client certificate, but it seems to handle it all invisibly. I'm very, very, (VERY!), impressed by how flawlessly it has worked.
If you're not on Exchange 2010, you need to get your company into the Microsoft Partner Network and you will get licences for nearly all of the latest software. We jumped a version (from 2003 to 2010) and the improvement is gobsmacking. Exchange 2010 is so much more efficient, the servers are flying!
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Yes Smoothound, you're right it is 2010; my mistake.
And as for my company switching; I don't think I have any pull in that department. I don't think it's a good idea to call them out on the internet. Lets just say this is a company thats known worldwide as a household name ( and also just bought a dying phone brand due to their OS) I'm actually surprised that they're behind on that tech but I have no way of incluencing an upgrade unfortunately. I'm sure it's in the works but for when I need it, it's too little too late...
ActiveSync is working fine for me on Exchange 2003 without any issues at all. So, no, you don't have to be on the latest version of Exchange.
I'm pretty sure I have Exchange 2003 here (I know it's not 2010 or 2008) and it works just fine. The first time thru it wouldn't download images that were embedded in email but I'd pretty sure that was because of the half-assed network I was using at the time. When I got home and connected to my own network, did a hard reset and set it all up again, mail worked fine. No errors, nothing, just email. I read the same thing about the iPhone 4, too, but it works fine against my server, also.
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I'm pretty sure I have Exchange 2003 here (I know it's not 2010 or 2008) and it works just fine. The first time thru it wouldn't download images that were embedded in email but I'd pretty sure that was because of the half-assed network I was using at the time. When I got home and connected to my own network, did a hard reset and set it all up again, mail worked fine. No errors, nothing, just email. I read the same thing about the iPhone 4, too, but it works fine against my server, also.
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So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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It has to be your Exchange infrastructure. I have tested the phone with Exchange 2003, 2007 & 2010 and they all work flawlessly. I'm an IT consultant and I have used my Focus to make sure it is compatible with my customers networks so that I can recommend it.
The only thing I'm sure is unusual about my set up is that since it's a dev system and it's just me using it for mail, I don't use SSL and have it turned off at the phone. Everything else is entirely straightfoward. I would think Microsoft would have decent integration between two of their own products BUT the phone is a Rev 1 system. You might take a look around the MS support site to see if anyone has had problems and if there's a reason and/or correction you can take. I second the thinking that it's probably something with your server and/or network but that's about the best I can do.
We are using Exchange 2007 and it works without a problem after the policy was corrected. Windows Phone 7 will not sync if the policy requires your phone to encrypt or strong unlock password (alphanumeric password). Our admin made a Windows Phone 7 policy for these items. Considering you cannot take the microsd out and it wont sync to desktops.. the encrypt is not a big deal.
In this thread the guy says going back and re-enter the information might work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833863&page=2
This happened to me as well. We have an Exchange 2003 server and what I did was go to "email and accounts" on the phone and went through the proccess and setup everything correctly but still got the error messages.
Now this is what fixed my issue (strange). I got out of the "email and accounts" and went into all programs list and opened "Outlook" , from there I put the settings in again for my account and presto, it just started working and syncing.
I did 2 phones likes this already and it works. Dont ask me how, but it does.
Hope this helps OP and anyone else using Exchange 2003.
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So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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I'm wondering if that additional microsd card you've in the Focus is causing you issues. I would remove the card, and hard reset the phone. Put in your Exchange info again and see if it doesn't work fine after that.
kcasante said:
Hey Guys;
So this is my rant about the Samsung Focus. I'll try to keep this brief.
I've been a huge fan of the Zune HD and since day one I've said that I'd switch if they ever add phone features (I was on a 3Gs at the time.)
So enter WP7; I LOVE the UI SOOO much that even though it's missing some really key things I was willing to overlook that and still got the Focus.
- I called AT&T to make sure they'd let me unlock it BEFORE I bought it because I'm taking a trip to Europe for a few months so I need to be able to use their local SIM. AT&T said "NO problem!" Once I got the phone however it turned into "We're not allowing it to be unlocked for 6 Months" (AT&T Sucks)
- It was suppose to take 15 minutes to active, it took 2 days (AT&T sucks)
- found out that WP7 doesn't connect to wireless networks that don't broadcast SSIDs (MS is clueless!)
But even after all these ridiculous issues that had me calling AT&T OVER AND OVER again, I was willing to keep the Phone....
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future! mad:) I've been able to get it to sync, but it errors out before it finishes and then it's unstable. Shooting errors out all the time. Came across this forum: http://tinyurl.com/focus-outlook
So now I'm about to crawl back to the OS I abandoned (android)
Worse of all; I put my 32Gb MicroSD card in the Focus and although it works great, I can't figure out how to format it and get it usable on other devices again. Only the focus can see it now... (has someone come across a fix for that yet?)
So there you have it... I'm not having a good phone week...
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My company uses Exchange 2003 and I have had NO issues.. Works very well. Curious, what version of Exchange?
Sorry to hear about your issues. If I were consulting you prior to this I would have indicated that corporate users should let early adopters take first swing at the phone before you go for it but it sounded like you were willing to go through some pain.
As for the SSID, I wanted to comment that I think it is sort of unfair you are indicating that MS is clueless on that front. I have read many things from the wireless alliance and they seem to have been saying for more than just a few years (2006) that hidden SSID creates more problems that it solves and that it is not a true security feature. Here is a security analysts take on it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
So anyway, as the industry updates it's standards, MS will continue to push those standards, hidden SSID is not a standard and is actually confusing to other wireless networks and traffic congestion resolution problems.
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I think the title of this thread needs to be renamed.
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No worries; It's done.
Thresher said:
Sorry to hear about your issues. If I were consulting you prior to this I would have indicated that corporate users should let early adopters take first swing at the phone before you go for it but it sounded like you were willing to go through some pain.
As for the SSID, I wanted to comment that I think it is sort of unfair you are indicating that MS is clueless on that front. I have read many things from the wireless alliance and they seem to have been saying for more than just a few years (2006) that hidden SSID creates more problems that it solves and that it is not a true security feature. Here is a security analysts take on it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
So anyway, as the industry updates it's standards, MS will continue to push those standards, hidden SSID is not a standard and is actually confusing to other wireless networks and traffic congestion resolution problems.
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So here's the update...
I find that if I set the exchange account to check for mail every 15 minutes instead of push, it seems to be more stable... Although this is really weird (cause the same config on my iPad and my Evo 4G for that matter seems to work flawlessly) I'm just going to deal with it. Although my statements at the begining of this post was somewhat hard on the phone I will say again; I really LOVE the UI. and the Display is amazing... So much so that I'll deal with the crap I think it's missing for a while.
Here's to hoping MS is as agressive with their updates as they've said they're going to be.
Thanks for all the input guys.
I am an Exchange 2003 admin at a company with over 500 devices using ActiveSync across multiple platforms and revisions.
We enabled ActiveSync policies this week, forcing a 4 character password down to the device, with the setting "wipe after x failed password attempts" disabled.
Within 48 hours, 3 users have reported their Samsung Fascinates (and one US Cellular Samsung Mesmerize - which appears to be the same CDMA Galaxy S variant) have randomly reverted to stock. The user was not doing anything in particular at the time, nor did they enter their PIN incorrectly.
Does anyone know if Verizon has acknowledged this issue, or plans to provide a fix? It feels wrong having to ask these users to go buy Touchdown, when every other Android phone works out of the box.
My guess would be that it's an issue with 2.1 not really the fact that it's a galaxy s.
2.2 has better support for exchange AS. Depending on the trust you can place on the user I'd suggest creating a new policy for them that doesn't require the pin but request that they use the pin, until the Galaxy S gets froyo.
I'll do a nandroid backup on my phone and enable the policy for my phone and see if it happens to me, I'm not running the stock kernel though so it could be different for me.
Unfortunately we can't do per-device polices with exchange 2003 without some trickery on a users extended AD attributes. And, since there's no way to identify Fascinate users, they report their AS user agent as 'android', so it's difficult to be proactive until they call in with the problem.
I don't think it's related to all galaxy s variants, plenty of Epic and TMobile Galaxy users are fine, but the US Cellular variant appears to be a direct copy of the Fascinate, also on 2.1update1, and exhibits the same symptoms.
Users are lying. They fat fingered the password or the screen came on in their pocket. I work IT in a company that has about 5k android devices and about 20k of iphone bb and windows phones. The exchange admin is a android enthusiast and we talk often, when they started enforcing wipe policy they were swamped by calls about devices wiping themselves but after users got used to entering the passcode the calls pretty much stopped.
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Except we don't set that as part of the policy, as stated in the OP. I can mess up my PIN an unlimited amount of times with no ill effect.
There are threads about this on androidforums as well as the vzw forum, but I can't link with my low post count. I just wanted to come to the place where I knew there was the most knowledge with this issue.
Hmm, I have not specifically tested this, so I don't know if Samsung added this functionality or not, but the stock mail client for Android 2.1, to the best of my knowledge, does not support PIN code passwords. That functionality was added into Froyo by Google. I suppose it's entirely possible that the mail client on the Fascinate is buggy and causing this issue.
I know what you mean about having to tell them to pay for a mail app, but I think they'll be happy about it after the fact, after seeing how much better Touchdown really is. The stock mail client is so bare-bones, it's honestly quite ridiculous. Google really needs to get their act in gear and code a decent, full-featured mail client, because right now the iPhone beats Android at Exchange syncing, even though it also can't hold a candle to Touchdown.
hey guys, a buddy of mine just had his note stolen. it is a wifi only device and i need to know if there is a way to locate it... i dont have any information of the device available other than a text+ phone number that the device is using. please shoot me a PM if you have any ideas, i have a few people working on it right now but need all and any ideas or input. please send PMs
thanks in advance
All notes have antitheft application built in it, atleast mine has, you need to register the same if you do you can track the phone from Samsung tracker website, it should be able to give you its location and also should be able to lock it, dont know whether it will happen with a wifi version as there is no imei number you can check
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All notes have antitheft application built in it, atleast mine has, you need to register the same if you do you can track the phone from Samsung tracker website, it should be able to give you its location and also should be able to lock it, dont know whether it will happen with a wifi version as there is no imei number you can check
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thank you... very useful... contacting somebody i know at google right now as well.
But... if you did not activate the utrack function (and if you did, you should know), then it will not work.
Found it.. Thanks for the input guys
Before saying it doesnt work (if you will) mind this:
1. It has to be switched on obviously
2. You need to have a working internet connection, meaning if he removes/switches simcard (you may recieve a notification about simcard change) and turn off WiFi, you're toast
3. Its possible he made a factory reset.. If so you're also toast
Personally Im using rooted N8000 and Avast Anti-theft.
Cheers cobraboy for letting us know, most people just leave threads open ended. How did you find it? Be interesting for others to know....
His saving grace was that it was connected to my buddy's WiFi...there were 4 people at the house when it turned up missing...
I got on his main computer at his house, pulled up a list of all the mac IDs connected to their WiFi, identified all 10 devices in the house individually, phones, computers, etc...
His tab should have come up on that list if it was there - it did not. So I confronted the person who I was pretty sure was the only one that would have taken it and told him I knew he had taken it - he came with our other friend..
Showed them all that it was physically missing and not in range of the home network... Even tho it was previously connected... Then told him I was going to call the cops over there if somebody didn't fess up so this was his chance to come clean (as my friends and I don't ****ing steal from each other... Durr) and he admitted to putting it outside while we were all upstairs, then texting another friend of his to come by the house and snagging it.
Got it back. And somebody might have had a bloody nose when all was said and done. Low lifes.
glad you got a result!
i would have emptied there pockets and took anything of value while i was at the nose breaking ceremony
alls well the ends well good you got the note back now activate the tracker
I have had great experience with the Cerberus anti theft app :good:
cobraboy85 said:
His saving grace was that it was connected to my buddy's WiFi...there were 4 people at the house when it turned up missing...
I got on his main computer at his house, pulled up a list of all the mac IDs connected to their WiFi, identified all 10 devices in the house individually, phones, computers, etc...
His tab should have come up on that list if it was there - it did not. So I confronted the person who I was pretty sure was the only one that would have taken it and told him I knew he had taken it - he came with our other friend..
Showed them all that it was physically missing and not in range of the home network... Even tho it was previously connected... Then told him I was going to call the cops over there if somebody didn't fess up so this was his chance to come clean (as my friends and I don't ****ing steal from each other... Durr) and he admitted to putting it outside while we were all upstairs, then texting another friend of his to come by the house and snagging it.
Got it back. And somebody might have had a bloody nose when all was said and done. Low lifes.
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u should had called the police
Glad you got it back. Pretty smart idea!
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You can also write a Tasker code for this kind of stuff. My TF101 used to take a snapshot of the front and back cameras, turn on WIFI, located by GPS and WIFI, then sync the photos and location data to a dropbox. I didn't do more coding because it was inconvenient and I ended up with shots of me taking a ****.. but, you know, if someone wanted to, he could easily turn that into a profile based on location (ie. maybe it won't take snapshots if you're on a recognized wifi or something).
How do you turn on the anti theft......would be interesting to hear from users of N8000, N8010, and N8013 to see IF the process is different for each.
Also, it would be nice to read of users preferred app......
Riki1kenobi said:
How do you turn on the anti theft......would be interesting to hear from users of N8000, N8010, and N8013 to see IF the process is different for each.
Also, it would be nice to read of users preferred app......
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Same here...what is this app thats supposedly built into our note? I have 8013 wifi version. How do we activate this tracker app?
I have the geek squad app from best buy, it will track lock wipe . make noise and take pic
demandarin said:
Same here...what is this app thats supposedly built into our note? I have 8013 wifi version. How do we activate this tracker app?
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It's called Samsung Dive and it's pretty cool beyond just lost device tracking. You (N8000) owners can use it to forward calls and MMS to another device, ring the device (like if you lost it in the house), and, if it's stolen or lost, remote wipe and lock it so it can't be used.
You sign in to the Dive website with your Samsung account. My account's in the UK so I don't how it works in the U.S. I didn't do anything to get my device(s) to appear in Dive other than use my Samsung account when I first set them up.
http://www.samsungdive.com/DiveMain.do
To get Dive to work you have to enable it on your device. It's under Settings>Security>Remote controls if it's available on your particular Note. This is from my N2 but the 10.1's the same.
Just registered with Samsung Dive. N8013, signed in and it automatically recognized the Note. Pretty slick
I am going to be blunt...some friends of mine are having some issues in their marriage due to one of them having a porn addiction and also just using their phone too much so they came up with 5-10 apps they want to be able to use and don't want anything else to be usable including browsing the internet. Being their most tech savvy friend they turned to me for help.
He had an iPhone 6S Plus and it was very easy to set it up to lock down apps and even prevent web browsing even if he did manage to get a browser installed via Restrictions.
Unfortunately his phone recently died out of warranty and his wife had an old Galaxy S4 anyway so was due for a replacement. Their carrier (T-Mobile) had a special on Galaxy S8's for a buy one get one free so they ordered two of those to replace his non-working phone and her old one. (not relevant to the question, but I also have T-Mobile and took advantage of that deal too)
I have tried and tried to find a way to do those things they want on Android but am not having any luck. Most of the stuff I see for Restrictions on Android are for people wanting to put THEIR phone in like kid mode prior to handing it to their child. Other apps like Norton App Lock work for some apps but not all apps are listed and for example doesn't allow restricting the built in internet browser.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I am going to be blunt...some friends of mine are having some issues in their marriage due to one of them having a porn addiction and also just using their phone too much so they came up with 5-10 apps they want to be able to use and don't want anything else to be usable including browsing the internet. Being their most tech savvy friend they turned to me for help.
He had an iPhone 6S Plus and it was very easy to set it up to lock down apps and even prevent web browsing even if he did manage to get a browser installed via Restrictions.
Unfortunately his phone recently died out of warranty and his wife had an old Galaxy S4 anyway so was due for a replacement. Their carrier (T-Mobile) had a special on Galaxy S8's for a buy one get one free so they ordered two of those to replace his non-working phone and her old one. (not relevant to the question, but I also have T-Mobile and took advantage of that deal too)
I have tried and tried to find a way to do those things they want on Android but am not having any luck. Most of the stuff I see for Restrictions on Android are for people wanting to put THEIR phone in like kid mode prior to handing it to their child. Other apps like Norton App Lock work for some apps but not all apps are listed and for example doesn't allow restricting the built in internet browser.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I would download applock from the Google play store. Let's you lock apps and then a pin is needed to unlock. I use this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock
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I never needed this function, but see what Secure Folder can do for you.
Some info: https://www.samsungknox.com/en/solutions/secure-folder
How to set it up: https://www.androidcentral.com/how-set-samsungs-secure-folder-galaxy-s8
Title says it all. Anyone else able to enable Volte? I've been using it for a while now. No root needed.
Edit: Hidden menu tool attached in post #3
How?
First and most crucial thing is accessing the hidden menu aka service mode aka dialer code heaven.
It's done by using the hidden menu tool that's linked in this page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/c9tovo
It's extremely easy and stupid fast.
Once you've done that you must enable advanced calling in settings. The beauty of it is that it can be done without having to deal with Verizon at all. It's done by accessing IMS settings.
Still with me? If you give a **** beep twice.
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
FACTORY MODE
Enter in calculator
(+ 30012012732+
Diagnostic mode(enter either in calculator or dial pad)
##366633#
VERIZON IOTHIDDENMENU
##433346#
Band select/service mode
*#27663368378#
IMS setting menu
*#467#
IMS Settings
- Hit the more options/three dots on upper right of screen
- Select 'Reset to default'
This should activate 'Advanced Calling' in the settings menu without dealing with Verizon. Keep in mind you might have to restart your phone after you reset the IMS settings to default.
- Go back to IMS settings (*#467#) after Advanced Calling is available(you should see that HD voice and video are enabled)
-Under IMS Setting, tap the first option “IMS Service switch”.
-On the next screen, make sure all the toggles are on. If any toggle is off, turn it on.
-Go back and tap “Self Provisioning”. First two options i.e. Provisioning and EAB should show “Enable”. If they show something else, tap “Toggle Provisioning” to enable them.
-Again go back and tap “IMS information”. Verify that all the settings are enabled on the IMS information screen.
-Restart your device.
>Manually add the IMS APN
1) Create an IMS APN
Settings → Mobile Networks →Access Point Names → Add
Select Settings and Mobile Network
Select Access Point Names, Select Add
2) Input IMS setting
Name: ims
APN: ims
APN type: ims
I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
Eman_Resu said:
Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones.
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True that. In the same boat. The ONLY things missing from the Note 4 are camera2 api and faster/more consistent GPS lock. Other than that, perfect phone for me. I got VoLTE working on VZW, but their 4G coverage blows in my area, missed/dropped 75% of calls. I have nearly everything working w/ a T-Mobile SIM, except voice calls fall back to 2G/CDMA. I'd LOVE to figure out how to get VoLTE on T-Mobile's towers, but it's still usable, since T-Mobile has great 4G LTE Band 4 coverage here, and decent 2G/GSM. So far, they have not announced end of life for 2G/GSM. I have been a VZW customer since they were Bell Atlantic, like 25 years. Had the grandfathered true unlimited data plan. Their service degradation over the last few years is inexcusable. Driving around last week w/ two identical note 4's, one w/ a T-Mobile SIM, one w/ VZW was an eye opener. Should have done this 10 years ago.
Benovite said:
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
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Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
Eman_Resu said:
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Your very welcome! I was not willing to give up on any of my note 4's either as they have so many features that absolutely no modern phone has such as:
IR blaster, removable battery, option of Qi charging Cover or regular cover, Heart rate, Blood pressure, O2 Level, Can connect to all 4 main GPS systems {GPS/US, GLONASS/Russia, Galileo/EU, BeiDou/China}, it works on almost all GSM & CDMA Networks including the unusual cdma networks in South America which I use every year or two when we visit my wifes family in Colombia and much more. They dont make phones that are swiss army like how this old note is, in fact I have tried other notes (including the last note that samsung made) and I absolutely hated it and took it back!
So because I just dont ever want to give up my note (it does absolutely everything I need in a phone and more) I decided to just keep messing with each value of each setting until I finally found the one that works! It was a little easier for me though because I had my wifes daily note 4 and mine daily note 4 and 2 spares to look at different settings so that when I messed up a setting I could return it to what my wifes note 4 had. The only reason I figured out the value changing thing is because one of my old android 5.1.1. note fours had the advanced calling activated when I retired it and as soon as I stuck my current sim card in it I was able to immediately make VoLte calls, so I knew there had to be a setting somewhere that would toggle it on. If anyone wants to activate Video calling on their note 4's (for free) it is actually done the same way. Simply go in to the IMS settings *#467# (which you can only do once you have unlocked the global hidden menu....see above) and make sure it is toggled on in the service switch setting first under the heading VoLte-Video Then head back into the DM Configuration and change toggle the show all values tab at the top to on and then scroll down until you see "LVC_Enabled" And change the 0 to a 1 and then to unhide the video tab in your dialer you need to keep scrolling down and find the one that says "Options _Enabled" and again change the 0 to a 1 and then scroll down and change the "VCE_Config" from 0 to 1 (it may already be a 1 though, its weird, but make sure it is a 1). Now finally Switch your phone to airplane mode and then back off and go back to the main IMS Screen and scroll down and select ims information and make sure that Video over IP is enabled. If it is not you may need to restart your phone. So what is crazy is that the video calling on this phone never worked on any MVNO's and never even worked when using verizon pre-paid, it only ever worked on this phone when I had verizon Post Paid, so I find it incredible that it can be activated like this. What it makes me wonder is if the Text message Chat feature can get activated the same way (although I havent figure that one out yet)! Anyhow my fellow note 4 lovers, I hope you do enjoy this tid bit of info!
ForestCat said:
Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file
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Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
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Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
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Hahaha I laugh because absolutely everything you said there are the things I tell my wife when she asked why we don't 'upgrade' our Asus work Laptops! And then of coarse you are absolutely correct about the phones! It sad because even though everything is continually being dumbed down, it is not in a good / more useful way it is always in a way that causes us the consumers to have to go more often to the mega corps tit to drink! Seriously though Loved the rant, and I appreciate the tip on the Modest Rom, I have not used it but now I will try it out.
mrjoshjohnsmith said:
So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
ForestCat said:
Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
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I'm still running Kitkat and I hate how the US carriers mess with the Note 4's settings
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Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
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Dave, the best battery's I have found so far (I have tried about 15-20 different aliexpress brands) are these:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804139675068.html?
Make sure you choose the NFC variety if you want to be able to use your Payment apps and other things (like nearby share). Now keep in mind that these battery's are nowhere near the capacity that they claim. I purchased a high end lithium battery stressor / capacity tester which can stress a battery up to 180watts and I tested each battery from all the different brands I purchased from aliexpress 5 times each (just to make sure I was past the break in stage of each battery) at a Constant Current of .7amps (which I found was the most accurate average that a note 4 will pull if watching videos and or gaming half the time and then just web browsing the other half) and these battery's consistently came out at that amperage with 3200ma - 3400ma capacity. The cutoff voltage was set to 2.8v which is as low as you would want to go during a stress test without damaging the battery. Anyway I say all that to say that they did seem to be the best battery's (better than original actually) even though they lie profusely on their stated capacity. I actually have another brand ordered though that seems to have good feedback so I will let you know how they go (these ones: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832682489559.html?). One final note, I would tell you all is that you will make your phone last longer if you do not have to ever take it apart to replace any components (since that almost always damages the s-pen foil film behind the OLED & motherboard) and the way you do that is you keep multiple spare battery's around and only charge the battery's in a separate charger like this: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832625444390.html?
Which only cost $4.20 a piece so when one finally burns up (they seem to last about a year each when plugged in 24 hours a day) you just plug in a new one and your phones charging port remains untouched! Now, I will admit though that I do not stick to this rule 100% of the time since sometimes I am using my phone as a GPS (which drains the battery hella quick) so I go ahead and plug the phone in to my car charger when I am doing so. Anyhow, I hope that helps