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I had an incredible amount of trouble rooting my G1 after i got the OTA update. I looked for answers everywhere and there weren't many, and way too many "do a forum search" answers on forums. As if i hadn't tried searching haha.
Luckily i finally figured out how to do it.
The solution is to create the Unlockr's Goldcard. This creates an SD card that gets around the security of your current build.
If you want to skip a lot of steps (1-8) in the Unlockr's method, download the Goldcard Helper from the Market. This gives you the number you need without using adb. If you have a PC you can follow the Unlockr's guide from step 8 on and create your Goldcard.
(edit: from here downgrade to 1.5 and one click root will probably work)
I am assuming that most of you can figure out the rest, since i'm really busy right now, but i want to open a thread to point people in the right direction. If I see people having trouble i'll make a [Guide] when i get some time.
For now, Good Luck, and if you have it, try Super D. You'll feel like that G1 is like new again!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Or you could just slap an rc29 .nbh file onto the sdcard, install that, and root as normal.
In theory...that's what everyone on forums keeps saying, but I was really frustrated because it doesn't work...at least it didn't work for me.
Were you ever able to do that successfully from the DMD64 build, or just rc30?
I don't know for sure, but I think a lot of people who were trying really hard to be helpful perhaps had rooted their phones before the last OTA update from T Mobile and therefore didn't realize there was a new problem.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
There are a couple of different nbh files for matching the particular region of your hardware. This technique most definitely DOES work, but since DREAM was available as ADP, anybody who ever HAD to was, by definition, either retarded, or bought it from someone who was retarded.
Well, I downloaded every findable .nbh file and none were allowed until I put them on a "goldcard."
Yes, I tried everything in the forums to the letter. I think I chiefly had trouble because everyone responded to other people with the same problem saying "it works, you just need to [insert common solution that I already tried]"
But I don't mean offence because I really do know that you are just trying to be helpful.
I just mean that unless you *actually* have rooted a DMD64 build, and you may have FAIK, you might just be adding to the problem...
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jontornblom said:
Well, I downloaded every findable .nbh file and none were allowed until I put them on a "goldcard."
Yes, I tried everything in the forums to the letter. I think I chiefly had trouble because everyone responded to other people with the same problem saying "it works, you just need to [insert common solution that I already tried]"
But I don't mean offence because I really do know that you are just trying to be helpful.
I just mean that unless you *actually* have rooted a DMD64 build, and you may have FAIK, you might just be adding to the problem...
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All that a goldcard does is it bypasses the CID check. If you do, in fact, have a tmobile branded phone with OEM firmware, then there is no benefit from a goldcard since the CID check will obviously pass since the hardware's CID matches the nbh's CID. Whatever you did differently that made the "goldcard" work had nothing to do with it being a goldcard.
Ah! You are smart! You actually just cleared up what happened with my phone and why I had so much trouble!
Here is what happened: I had just received the phone (Rogers branded) and was extremely new to Android and rooting. I attempted to root got it all done, running with cm6 etc. I overclocking it, but had made a mistake in one of my CPU speeds, freezing my phone. When I tried to reboot to recovery, I accidentally rebooted to hboot and the the t-mobile nbh was still on my SD and it installed. So I ended up with t-mobile stock 1.5. So now I had to go to work, and just left it with the uptake t-mobile Rom. In the middle of the day I got a "there is an update available" notice. I thought it was for an app (noob, I know) and let it update. That is how I got a Rogers branded phone with t-mobile 1.6 DMD64 software and why I needed the goldcard to re-flash the t-mobile cupcake!
Thanks for persisting with me and helping me figure out the mystery.
Cheers!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Thank you sir for finding this solution. I'm in almost the exact same shoes you were in. Noob to Android/rooting. Got this G1 from a friend with 1.6 DMD64 already on there. No root methods have worked so far. Going to try the goldcard sometime today. Will confirm whether it works..
Goldcard was what worked for me! 1-Click method, however, did not work.
Used the text-instructions/downloads from theunlocker.com. I can't post links on XDA yet, so the titles of the articles are "How To Root The HTC G1/Dream" with warnings of how it's an outdated method (but still the only one that works for my DMD64). Then I used "How To Load A Custom Rom On The HTC G1/Dream."
Did not use the videos on those websites...instead used a YouTube video for guidance. Its title is "How To Root Your T-Mobile G1 with Android 1.6 Pt 1."
Successfully running Cyanogen 6 now. Compared to 1.6...Ridiculous UI improvement and a ridiculous battery life decrease.
I tried em all, and gotta say thatv though I wanted android 2.x, Super D was IMHO, without a doubt, the best ROM for the G1.
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Hi app can you tell me if wildfire on 2.2.1 can be rooted ?
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Yes, NO it can not, if you used like 2 minutes reading the forum you would already know that since HTC upgraded hboot from 0.8 to 1.01 noone has been able to root it yet, unless they use XTC Clip to set wildfire s-off, then degrade it to eclair that's the android 2.1. Then it can be rooted as far as I understand it, but if you don't know anyone with the XTC clip then welcome in the que to the rest of us waiting for a software solution, that unrevoked is working on......
As question has been answered closing thread
Just a little video I made. I signed up to XDA this morning with a unrootable Wildfire running 2.2.
That same phone is now running a rooted custom rom! Thanks guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmCatsXMSY
Although this is good, people are wanting to complete the task without xtc clip due to price and individuals only needing out for a single handset.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
I know. It's a shame that I had to source an xtc clip to enable me to install something on a phone I paid £150 for...I got 2 actually for testing purposes!
I own the device yet HTC decide what I do with it? Anyway... that's for another thread.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
downloading the video, hope this is good~ i've been waiting for a solution to get out of the official OTA 2.2 for 2 months now~
it's a mistake upgrading to this terrible official Froyo~
moonbugz said:
downloading the video, hope this is good~ i've been waiting for a solution to get out of the official OTA 2.2 for 2 months now~
it's a mistake upgrading to this terrible official Froyo~
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You will still need to S-OFF your Wildfire using an XTC Clip. Else, it is pointless.
On hindsight, OP, it would be better if you add this in the main post in big bold letters, people will be be expecting DIY Software solutions here.
When it search for informations of the phone it says "connection error"
can anybody help me ??
Adam_BSR said:
Just a little video I made. I signed up to XDA this morning with a unrootable Wildfire running 2.2.
That same phone is now running a rooted custom rom! Thanks guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmCatsXMSY
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why didnt you just flash a recovery from the bootloader? i found no need to downgrade i just went into bootloader and flashed the p4img.zip booted into recovery and flashed cm7 had it done withing 5 minuites without downgrading or rooting
People are looking for freeware software solution to root the newer wildfire. Not with an hardware solution like xtc clip.
ok. the video tutorial is fine.
bobbycarver said:
why didnt you just flash a recovery from the bootloader? i found no need to downgrade i just went into bootloader and flashed the p4img.zip booted into recovery and flashed cm7 had it done withing 5 minuites without downgrading or rooting
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and even then, now there is a better option after making s-off, as said in the previous post (except for the file name there should be PC49IMG.ZIP)
-just s-off by xtc clip
-install the clockworkmod custom recovery by PC49IMG.ZIP process (that zip file is somewhere in the forum)
-thats all. U can install any custom rom u want
Hmm, I look at this as a guide how to unlock NAND on your wildfire thread, and as that it's fine. Beside that it clearly states in the topic that xtc clip is used. So this is a XTC CLIP guide.
So those of you taking about free rooting, would you please take your business into some "why have unrevoked not rootet my phone free yet".
I see it so many places if some person gets in and talks about xtc clip in an unrevoked thread, he gets the message that he's off topic.
I'm sorry gentlemen but here those persons talking about Unrevoked and free root is actually off topic.
Hello
Maybe I am a dummy(newbie for sure) but I was reading and experimenting for 12hrs on google, xda etc for how to root my wildfire and nothing.
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0001
TOUCH PANEL-SYN3KY_01
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Nov 17 2010, 12:08:53
I have the PC49IMG.ZIP file, could anyone please write me step by step instruction how to -install the clockworkmod custom recovery by PC49IMG.ZIP process (that zip file is somewhere in the forum)
When I bought my wildfire it had 2.1 but I wanted to play rush poker which needs froyo and I didnt care for root and updated (but this update was prety nonsense) then I started reading and understood that I need root to overclock my phone to run rush poker. So recently I payd 20€ to get my s-off and the man said I now flash unofficial, but totoday I was sitting for 12hrs and only thing I get, my head head will blow, please help.
Thanks
S7rq said:
Hello
Maybe I am a dummy(newbie for sure) but I was reading and experimenting for 12hrs on google, xda etc for how to root my wildfire and nothing.
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0001
TOUCH PANEL-SYN3KY_01
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Nov 17 2010, 12:08:53
I have the PC49IMG.ZIP file, could anyone please write me step by step instruction how to -install the clockworkmod custom recovery by PC49IMG.ZIP process (that zip file is somewhere in the forum)
When I bought my wildfire it had 2.1 but I wanted to play rush poker which needs froyo and I didnt care for root and updated (but this update was prety nonsense) then I started reading and understood that I need root to overclock my phone to run rush poker. So recently I payd 20€ to get my s-off and the man said I now flash unofficial, but totoday I was sitting for 12hrs and only thing I get, my head head will blow, please help.
Thanks
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
WOOHOO!!! Alot of struggle but I made it, I am happy human now.
Thanks anyway!
Hi all there is a single way of installing 2.2.1 rooted and recovery in one hit.
If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057524
you'll seem some PC49IMG.zip files i made with everything done for you.
I made them so it was easy for people that don't want a long list of do this and that you just put the file onto the SDCard reboot to the nice hboot loader and select yes when it asks for update.
It all works with no issues i test them myself after i made them.
Its the full hog, System,Data,Recovery,Boot on both images!
Here is a complete guide to generate a goldcard. It is very straight forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8105075&postcount=42
Hope this helps
If your phone was really S-off by xtc clip. The CID should also changed to 1111.
In that case, together with the wildfire goldcard, u flash with the 2.1 offical rom (the one with .exe instead of zip and flash it).
www.kingmobilephone.com
Dear Friends,
I know that similar kind of questions has been already raised by many.But I am not clear about the anser.At present is it possible to root htc wildfire running 2.2 froyo?.With froyo, my phone is running too slow and battery is draining much faster than before.I really got fed up with this.I read in some forums that downgrading to 2.1 is also difficult.Is it so?
Hope some of our friends are working on these.
Please help me in these matters
Cheers
Arun
arunmangalam said:
Dear Friends,
I know that similar kind of questions has been already raised by many.But I am not clear about the anser.At present is it possible to root htc wildfire running 2.2 froyo?.With froyo, my phone is running too slow and battery is draining much faster than before.I really got fed up with this.I read in some forums that downgrading to 2.1 is also difficult.Is it so?
Hope some of our friends are working on these.
Please help me in these matters
Cheers
Arun
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At the moment you can't get permanant root on 2.2. You can get a temporary root, but that wont let you edit anything on /system. If you can find someone with an xtc clip you can get your phone S-OFF which makes /system writeable.
Downgrading seems to be easy based off the 2 or 3 step by step guides I've seen on this forum so far.
Your questions are no different to any of the ones asked before by others, please use the search next time.
Downgrading will work, but, it will still be unrootable. As said above, the only way as of now to root 2.2 is by using an XTC Clip hardware box to get S-OFF, then, downgrade (this is a 'proper' downgrade) and root.
You can root your phone...
i have posted step by step instructions on my website on how to root any android phone running firmware 1.5 and above
since XDA wont allow me to post a link visit my website.. "ajknowsitall. webs. com"
Enough of this already, people. You need a XTC Clip for that, which costs about $220. This is the only way, for now.
Moderation needed!
Alot of topics about the same thing ...
anyone try his method?
ajknowsitall said:
You can root your phone...
i have posted step by step instructions on my website on how to root any android phone running firmware 1.5 and above
since XDA wont allow me to post a link visit my website.. "ajknowsitall. webs. com"
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ajknowsitall said:
You can root your phone...
i have posted step by step instructions on my website on how to root any android phone running firmware 1.5 and above
since XDA wont allow me to post a link visit my website.. "ajknowsitall. webs. com"
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I don't believe this. Because that process was not a newer one and was there long ago. If it worked, it must have became a lot popular by now. And "Universal Androot" is not a root application recommended for NAND locked devices like wildfire. If one has bypassed the nand security with xtc clip and made s-off, then this process might work. And once if u make s-off, there are many other rooting options available. But the point here is to root the wildfire with hboot 1.01 and S-ON dude.... Do not just stick with the thread title. Read the thread, he mentioned wildfire 2.2 clearly.
I doubt whether ur device is wildfire or not (if wildfire rooted or not). Check the below attached "Root and Me" application. In that, go to the root guides and check the compatible devices for "Universal Androot" process. There is no wildfire in that.
Just confirm any process after it worked with u guys.
mjgs said:
Moderation needed!
Alot of topics about the same thing ...
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Actually this thread was a bit fair one started on 21st march (and then reposted yesterday). There are a lot other threads recently started with the same topic. But still i agree with u.
ballubas said:
anyone try his method?
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U might not have asked this question if u know that his process is nothing but "Universal Androot".
Inspite of being aware, i just tried it for u. It won't work and says failed.
If anyone wants to recheck they might. Actually that process is little bit confusing. And im attaching a screen shot of that website below.
The process says to install "App installer" just to install an apk file. Cant we install an apk file from a file manager ? This is ok.
Then the process says just to enable usb debugging alone to transfer the apk file frm PC to wildfire. It not even says from ADB, so i expect it means to transfer through disk drive. Come on stop joking.
I found that this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
was very helpful I am running droid 2.2 Froyo on a Cherry Mobile Candy
I was able to root my phone semi permanently. So long as I don't clear the data for the Z4root program I maintain superuser status. So far I have had no problems and have been able to remove bloatware using AntTek App manager with ease.
thanks man
Come on guys, let's stop reviving threads from a year and 2 months ago...
N00B
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA
i wanted to understand (and let everyone understand) the froyo wildfire bootloader and its other security details, so that someone will root the wildfire finally. Everything needs to be done by sharing the security loop holes of wildfire.
its not an easy task. but i dont really wanted to wait further for rooting.
any suggestions, comments and complements are widely accepted.
everyone who wants to root wildfire share ur information here.
whatever the information u know, post it here
lets get it done.
No offense, but, this is such a pointless thread. Why don't you start by telling us what all you know about the new Bootloader? (Technicalities). If it were so easy, I am sure someone would have done it already.
I'm a newbie and will learn to do that. I posted this thread to share information of wildfire bootloader. If everyone shares whatever he knows, then I'm sure that finally someone roots it. That's the beauty of sharing and unrevealing things. I believe the persons who root and develop apps are also once new bies. So I would like people to support this thread. There s nothing that can be undone. Only its a matter of time. So try to share.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
Moved to general.
I agree that sharing information is vital to accomplishing mutual goals but asking people for general info about the bootloader or general advice about the root process is not development...hence I moved the topic to general.
Good luck and I hope you are able to learn enough to achieve your goal...that's what XDA is all about.
krook6023 (mod team)
a little bit of help maybe
there are two things that we can aim to achieve root on our widlfires . .
1. downgrade the Hboot to rootable versions (1.01 to 0.80 for eg) reported successful in another htc device in which i don't remember what it was
2. try to achieve root with the 1.01 Hboot instead (which seems to be harder )
do not ask me about the technicalities of this options as i am no developer like i said, just trying to help
yes downgrading wildfire HBOOT 1.01 to 0.80 will make rooting easier, but there is a more chance of bricking.
i remember the other phone which downgraded HBOOT was desire z. watch out this link,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
in that process, observe the path
/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5
someone said this on xda,
I own a HTC Desire Z, and I have downgraded my software including Hboot using this method .
I have tried the same thing on my girlfriend wildfire and I managed to obtain temporary root, but when I tried to change "misc_version" to 1.24.405.1 I got this error:
Code:
# /data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.24.405.1
--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to: 1.24.405.1
Patching and backing up partition 17...
Error opening input file.
I know that this files are specific for Desire Z, psneuter worked only after I have downloaded from somewhere else (I don't remember where), but maybe someone will manage to edit "misc_version" and make it work on wildfire, then it will be possible to downgrade everything including H-boot.
so if we r working on downgrading the HBOOT, then our target will be to change the version of the "misc_version" to 1.24.405.1
i would prefer to work on downgrading the HBOOT rather than rooting the newer HBOOT. because, if once we have successfully downgraded the HBOOT, we can root, then unroot, then re-root anytime without any limitations.
Lol, its not a problem of patching the HBOOT. The problem is, overwriting the current HBOOT with a patched one. That requires a vulnerability/exploit, which are generally hard to find.
edit: posted this without fully reading the thread, i see you're looking at downgrading as well. what i said is still valid though.
tell me about exploit / vulnerability
hey are u sure it is not an issue of patching HBOOT. is it only the issue with overwriting the original HBOOT with a patched one. pls reply
and what is meant by vulnerability or exploit in this process. pls describe it.
on march 18th 2011, unrevoked released source for an exploit (zysploit exploit) in 2.2 using github. im giving u the link of it here.
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit
the download link of zysploit here:
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit/archives/master
im also trying to attach the files. and tell me if that zysploit helps us anyway.
hoping to hear.
bharatgaddameedi said:
hey are u sure it is not an issue of patching HBOOT. is it only the issue with overwriting the original HBOOT with a patched one. pls reply
and what is meant by vulnerability or exploit in this process. pls describe it.
on march 18th 2011, unrevoked released source for an exploit (zysploit exploit) in 2.2 using github. im giving u the link of it here.
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit
the download link of zysploit here:
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit/archives/master
im also trying to attach the files. and tell me if that zysploit helps us anyway.
hoping to hear.
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Yes I'm sure about patching HBOOT. I'm currently using a patched 1.01.1000 HBOOT S-OFF. You should really know what a vulnerability/exploit is before getting into this stuff. Google is your friend. You can't go from total noob to HBOOT exploiter directly.
AFAIK zysploit does not help if your bootloader is completely locked down.
edit: oh and i didnt mean that you ARE a total noob, i said that because you were saying everyone was a noob at some point (which is true, but there IS a learning curve)
im sorry for going into the details of u. but pls let me know this.
i have seen ur phone details on this thread like below.
Phone: HTC Wildfire
HBOOT - AlphaRev 1.01.1000 S-OFF
Recovery - Clockworkmod 3.0.2.4
Radio: 13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
ROM: [2.3.3] Locally built CyanogenMod 7 with Darktremor Apps2SD
SDCard: SanDisk 4GB Class 4 (512MB EXT).
urs HBOOT is 1.01 and is S-OFF. and then there is alpharev, which works with rooted phones.
i dont understand really, how a HBOOT 1.01 with S-OFF is rooted and then alpharev is made used. i have seen some others peoples phone details to be exactly like this.
have u used xtc clip to make S-OFF. if it is so, then i heard that u must downgrade to the HBOOT 0.80 to make the phone rooted. also heard that alpha rev is not yet compatible with wildfire. let me know something if u r willing to share.
and google search for exploit gives irrelated data. do u know any specific link to learn about exploits.
bharatgaddameedi said:
im sorry for going into the details of u. but pls let me know this.
i have seen ur phone details on this thread like below.
Phone: HTC Wildfire
HBOOT - AlphaRev 1.01.1000 S-OFF
Recovery - Clockworkmod 3.0.2.4
Radio: 13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
ROM: [2.3.3] Locally built CyanogenMod 7 with Darktremor Apps2SD
SDCard: SanDisk 4GB Class 4 (512MB EXT).
urs HBOOT is 1.01 and is S-OFF. and then there is alpharev, which works with rooted phones.
i dont understand really, how a HBOOT 1.01 with S-OFF is rooted and then alpharev is made used. i have seen some others peoples phone details to be exactly like this.
have u used xtc clip to make S-OFF. if it is so, then i heard that u must downgrade to the HBOOT 0.80 to make the phone rooted. also heard that alpha rev is not yet compatible with wildfire. let me know something if u r willing to share.
and google search for exploit gives irrelated data. do u know any specific link to learn about exploits.
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The patched HBOOT by AlphaRev is v1.01.1000. However, stock 1.01.1000 CANNOT be replaced by any known methods. AlphaRev replaced my stock 0.80.0002 with their 1.01.1000 PATCHED HBOOT. No, I have NOT used an XTC Clip. And no, only people who have no clue what s-off is would downgrade to 0.80.x to root after s-off. When you're s-off, fastboot lets you flash a custom recovery, which lets you flash a rooted ROM. Done.
A test version of AlphaRev has existed for ages for Wildfire. Just not released, though it should be released soon.
About exploits: http://tinyurl.com/bwqgkp
See the first link.
hboot versions
As far as now we have 3 versions of hboot. Making a note of them below along with the associated radio (in official roms)
1st version: hboot 0.80.0002 and Radio_13.45.55.24H_3.35.15.31 (at the time of phone manufacture)
2nd version: hboot 0.80.0007 and Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25 (in august or later)
3rd version: hboot 1.01.0002 and Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 (came with froyo update in december 2010 or later)
Based on different regions, the hboot may slightly vary in the last number like 0.80.0002 and 0.80.0003
So, remember that. And the above versions are for ASIA---INDIA.
here it says that wildfire has temp root - http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly - does anyone now how to temp root and is it then possible to install custom roms via rom manager? Thanks.
Aca902 said:
here it says that wildfire has temp root - http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly - does anyone now how to temp root and is it then possible to install custom roms via rom manager? Thanks.
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that link doesnt mean that wildfire now has temporary root.
that link means that wildfire with 2.1 can be rooted whereas wildfire with 2.2 is in a temporary unrootable stage, which will be rooted in future. same applies to htc aria. watch out there is "temporary" even to aria also.
htc aria got updated to official froyo in feb 2011, and like wildfire, aria is also yet to be rooted.
so presently wildfire and aria are the phones eagerly waiting to get rooted.
and i wanted to mention something about htc legend.
this htc legend (unlike wildfire and aria), got rooted in a very short time.
htc legend and htc wildfire both got updated to official froyo almost at the same time. but in the 1st week of jan 2011, legend got root access. legend devs managed to downgrade from official froyo to rooted hboot 1.01 eclair. its there in the legend forums. maybe it can help someone to understand wildfire rooting. link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894465
wildfire with 2.1 (older hboot) is rooted by some processes like unrevoked, paulO'Brien process, and etc.
now can we expect those teams to release the source code of those processes.
once if it is done, i think rooting will be made opensource just like android operating system. almost every android phone will be rooted and great android development follows. what do u say
bharatgaddameedi said:
joined xda in nov 2010. dont even know how to create a thread. remained passive.
created my first thread on 10th april 2011. now exploring xda. would like to simply say that xda is an ocean with immense of knowledge. suggesting everyone to explore.
irrelative matter, sorry for that.
now coming to the point of rooting wildfire.
wildfire with 2.1 is rooted by some processes like unrevoked, paulO'Brien process, and etc.
now can we expect those teams to release the source code of those processes.
once if it is done, i think rooting will be made opensource just like android operating system. almost every android phone will be rooted and great android development follows. what do u say
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here's what i think: you should read. all of your questions are answered somewhere or the other already. source code of NAND exploits WILL NOT be released, because that would enable HTC to patch the vulnerability, which they have already done anyway. and, these exploits only apply to HTC bootloaders, not all android phones. meh. each manufacturer -if they choose to do so- locks their bootloader IN THEIR OWN way.
bharatgaddameedi said:
now coming to the point of rooting wildfire.
wildfire with 2.1 is rooted by some processes like unrevoked, paulO'Brien process, and etc.
now can we expect those teams to release the source code of those processes.
once if it is done, i think rooting will be made opensource just like android operating system. almost every android phone will be rooted and great android development follows. what do u say
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If the source code of those exploits are released, HTC will patch it up with an updated bootloader, like they did with the HBOOT that came with OTA Froyo update. Plus, every manufacturer have different bootloaders on their phones. For example, exploits that work on HTC's bootloaders don't work on others. Same goes for rooting, different phones require different method of doing it.
The reason why it's almost impossible to root is that the manufacturer, in this case, HTC, decided to lock the bootloader. That's what I say.
TL;DU The exploit used to root that worked with Eclair (HBOOT 0.8) doesn't work with Froyo (HBOOT 1.01) anymore because HTC patched it.
doomed151 said:
If the source code of those exploits are released, HTC will patch it up with an updated bootloader, like they did with the HBOOT that came with OTA Froyo update. Plus, every manufacturer have different bootloaders on their phones. For example, exploits that work on HTC's bootloaders don't work on others. Same goes for rooting, different phones require different method of doing it.
The reason why it's almost impossible to root is that the manufacturer, in this case, HTC, decided to lock the bootloader. That's what I say.
TL;DU The exploit used to root that worked with Eclair (HBOOT 0.8) doesn't work with Froyo (HBOOT 1.01) anymore because HTC patched it.
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Right. Im aware that if source code of a rooting process is revealed, HTC will patch it and make it won't work.
im aware just changing a version of bootloader by htc will not make any rooting process stop work, unless they have patched the previous exploits.
but my way of thinking here is completely different.
Let them further patch their bootloaders. But, tell me who is going to make a second official update. I, personally won't make any other official update. and at this point of time, i dont think any wildfire user, who is eagerly waiting to get the phone rooted, will make a 2nd official update. even after waiting for 4months just to get rooted, if a wildfire user makes a 2nd official update, then i dont know what to call him/her.
its pretty clear that wildfire users willing to get rooted will not make any other official updates. and those who are not willing to get rooted (at this point of time) will continue to make updates, and get their bootloader locked up, of which i expect no one bothers.
but i wanted to know if it is the same exploit that roots different htc phone models.
if the same exploit is rooting different htc phones, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes no sense. i agree and i give up.
but the exploits for rooting different htc devices are different, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes some sense.
i think htc HBOOT also has source code. what if some unloyal member of htc reveals the source code, so that it becomes easy to root.
bharatgaddameedi said:
Right. I knew that if source code of a rooting process is revealed, HTC will patch it and make it won't work.
i knew just changing a version of bootloader by htc will not make any rooting process stop work, unless they have patched the previous exploits.
but my way of thinking here is completely different.
Let them further patch their bootloaders. But, tell me who is going to make a second official update. I, personally won't make any other official update. and at this point of time, i dont think any wildfire user, who is eagerly waiting to get the phone rooted, will make a 2nd official update. even after waiting for 4months just to get rooted, if a wildfire user makes a 2nd official update, then i dont know what to call him/her.
its pretty clear that wildfire users willing to get rooted will not make any other official updates. and those who are not willing to get rooted (at this point of time) will continue to make updates, and get their bootloader locked up, of which i expect no one bothers.
but i wanted to know if it is the same exploit that roots different htc phone models.
if the same exploit is rooting different htc phones, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes no sense. i agree and i give up.
but the exploits for rooting different htc devices are different, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes some sense.
i think htc HBOOT also has source code. what if some unloyal member of htc reveals the source code, so that it becomes easy to root.
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wow you really have no clue do you? the HBOOT can be easily disassembled using any disassembler. people have gone through it and found that the old hole/weakness is NO LONGER THERE. If there's no weak point, what will they attack? even with the source code they can't do anything.
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wow you really have no clue do you? the HBOOT can be easily disassembled using any disassembler. people have gone through it and found that the old hole/weakness is NO LONGER THERE. If there's no weak point, what will they attack? even with the source code they can't do anything.
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Yes u r right about me. I thought that the source code will atleast tell us the way of approach of the process. So here u tell me that the way of approaches to root via 2 different exploits is completely different. So everytime the HBOOT gets patched, then we should seek a complete different way to exploit it. Am I correct.