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is it possible to use the Evo with 3g connection only. because i do not have 4g in my area
My understanding is that Sprint won't allow you to buy it without the $10 added.
But some people have called customer support and the reps were saying if they didn't have it in their area, then they wouldn't have to pay for it? But they could be wrong here since Sprint's announcement was fairly clear on that requirement. They are pushing hard for their 4G service and it makes sense since they invested in it.
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is it possible to use the Evo with 3g connection only. because i do not have 4g in my area
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As stated numerous times in the past, the phone allows you to either chose to search 4G networks, and if no connectivity, connect to a 3G network.. OR... Select it to use only a 3G connection.
The Evo will work fine in a 3G network.
deekoi said:
My understanding is that Sprint won't allow you to buy it without the $10 added.
But some people have called customer support and the reps were saying if they didn't have it in their area, then they wouldn't have to pay for it? But they could be wrong here since Sprint's announcement was fairly clear on that requirement. They are pushing hard for their 4G service and it makes sense since they invested in it.
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At this current time, you will pay +$10 a month for having an Evo activated on your account (4G or not). What they're saying is because this device will constantly be pulling data, you'll need to pay extra for that data... It's they're way of weaseling out of saying, "you'll be paying for WiMAX"..
However, with your $10, the 3G cap on data will be moved from 5Gb to unlimited.
I'm almost positive that the 5GB data cap on 3G access remains in place. So you get unlimited 4G but you're still stuck at 5GB access through 3G. The plan details I've seen show the 5GB limit for 3G AND show no cap on 4G.
AdamLeonard said:
I'm almost positive that the 5GB data cap on 3G access remains in place. So you get unlimited 4G but you're still stuck at 5GB access through 3G. The plan details I've seen show the 5GB limit for 3G AND show no cap on 4G.
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The 5GB cap stays in place for some of Sprint's 3G services. With the +$10, you are allowed unlimited 4G/3G.
So basically, they allow you to go over 5GB, except for: X, Y, and Z (etc)
So, what are the excluded services from the 5G limit?
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So basically, they allow you to go over 5GB, except for: X, Y, and Z (etc)
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Asking the obvious question, or maybe not so obvious. What are those "except for X, Y, and Z (etc)" services?
Anyone have a breakdown or a link (straight from the horse's mouth as it were) to verify this?
Wait, so there's a 5GB/mo. cap on EVDO rev.A data (3G) on the EVO??
My Hero doesn't have that now.. why would they start a cap? I use ~20GB a month at least.
scirio said:
Wait, so there's a 5GB/mo. cap on EVDO rev.A data (3G) on the EVO??
My Hero doesn't have that now.. why would they start a cap? I use ~20GB a month at least.
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You should be getting overage charges then or you are a liar.
you know, people keep saying there is a 5gb cap on 3g data right now on an everthing plan, but the only thing I've seen the 5gb cap referred to with is the overdrive and other data-only plans. I've never seen in writing any cap on 3g data with the everything data or everything plans. I think this is a misconception, but let's get a link to show it.
One thing to be aware of is this. One of the tech sites that tested the EVO said that if you're in an area without 4g coverage then you'll want to make sure you turn the service off on the phone or it will drain your battery fast.
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You should be getting overage charges then or you are a liar.
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All of my lines have unlimited 3g, including the 4 aircards that we have. We are on a business account, though. I think that is the difference.
If you go get a new regular account now, you are likely limited to 5GB/month on phones or aircards. If you are on an old plan or a business account, you might have unlimited.
So my plan is technically an iPhone plan, (bought it with contract to sell it and get nexus one)
if 4g is available will I be able to get it without changing my unlimited plan with at&t? can anyone confirm if that has worked for them?
Also where is the cheapest place to buy without a contract? It would seem like the at&t store for 500 is the best way to go.
I switched yesterday from from my iphone unlimited plan to Smartphone Bundle with Messaging
basically if you don't downgrade or cancel your contract you'll be able to keep unlimited.
I've switched between the iphone and the smartphone plans a few times in the last year and they retained my unlimited status.
the ATT guy at the store said the HSDPA+ plans are the same as the smartphone plans.. not sure if thats true, because my Atrix data speeds are HORRIBLE..
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I switched yesterday from from my iphone unlimited plan to Smartphone Bundle with Messaging
basically if you don't downgrade or cancel your contract you'll be able to keep unlimited.
I've switched between the iphone and the smartphone plans a few times in the last year and they retained my unlimited status.
the ATT guy at the store said the HSDPA+ plans are the same as the smartphone plans.. not sure if thats true, because my Atrix data speeds are HORRIBLE..
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What speeds are you getting? I get the same speeds for download as my captivate did but not for upload (limited by ATT madness).
I was wondering the same thing. I'm under the SmartPhone unlimited data plan switching from an HTC Inspire. Never called them or anything, just popped my SIM card in. When I checked my account features on the AT&T site there were options for HSPA+ 4g data plans. I'm wondering if it would make a difference on what plan I'm on regarding data speeds.
I did speed tests here in DC, I'm in a building so not sure if the data is skewed. I was averaging 1.3-1.7 mbps download with a high of 2.73mbps (only happened once out of about 10 tries). The upload rate was very dissapointing, averaged at 130kbps.
Would switching to the "4g plan" make a difference? Are these speeds what the rest of you guys are getting?
I had an iPhone4 before I got my atrix and I had unlimited data on my iphone, so I bought my atrix without a contract in order to keep that data plan. I received the following text message this morning:
Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4g data connection today
Right now i am beyond angry because it seems like they are just trying to take away my unlimited data. The reason I say this is because the iPhone 4 does the handshaking to get true HSUPA and my phone does not. Therefore I am paying for a plan with a service that doesnt even exist, where my original plan (for the iphone 4) actually covers HSUPA. Does anyone know a way around this? I definitely dont want to lose my unlimited data. Is there anyway to get out of my contract? I would just as soon switch carriers before giving into paying for a crappy data plan (no offense to anyone who has the plan, you just didnt have the option ) on a crappy carrier.
Thanks for the help in advance.
go on their website att.com
you can actually select an unlimited 4g plan i m pretty sure
pick it and report back
I switched from iPhone unlimited to Android unlimited - they will let you do that. But you will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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You will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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by motorola, att has nothing to do with it
They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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Yeah, it almost makes me want to switch to a tiered plan and just pay the $10 for an extra GB if I need it and avoid the throttling. It's quite frustrating. Makes me really want to switch to Sprint.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/12/sprints-dan-hesse-differentiates-between-unlimited-and-unlimit/
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-atrix-xoom-headed-to-sprint-with-wimax-4g-rumor-20110317/
They will grandfather you into the unlimited plan.. you didn't have to buy off contract to so that...
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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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some crazy dudes with an iphone was pulling 90gb/ month
a little much if u ask me ....
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1119791
it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
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My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
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The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
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it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
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like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
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I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
I have unlimited...
When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
You also didnt have to buy the phone out of contract. I bought mine with my upgrade for $200 and was grand fathered over too my 3g data plan which is called the Smart phone unlimited.
Verizon with there 17-20mb download on there LTE network is looking pretty good now. But thats still not even live in my area so it doesnt madder.
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I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
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Well the OP stated that he had an iPhone before. If he had a BB before, I would have said a "non-BB data plan".
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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Well that's just not true at all.
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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You're in incorrect in that. Its unlimited regardless of network connection speed...
Try again...
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I went to. Costco and the Guy there kept me on my unlimited plan. I even called att to make sure and the Rep put me on hold so she could talk to the manager and they said I'm allowed to grandfather my plan.
If you guys are having trouble, ask the Rep to talk to the manager.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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What he said! I switched from unlimited with iPhone 4 and have unlimited 4G data now on Atrix. They tried to tell me I had to pick one of their teired data plans and I said thanks but no thanks give me my grandfathered unlimited and they did.
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When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
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I have no idea what that "4G" sim is going to do for you considering it won't be needed until AT&T rolls out LTE. The so-called "4G" that the Atrix uses (HSDPA+) is still a 3G technology and 3G sim cards work on it.
I just checked my bill and it says that my current data and messaging plan is set to expire on 04/07/2011. I can get a Smartphone Unlimited data and 1500 messaging for the same price. Haven't made any change yet. Will call AT&T Monday and see what happens.
I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
1. The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
2. What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
3. What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
4. If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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1. I don't know which version of the HD2 you have, but if it is currently getting 3G on AT&T, then it won't get 3G on T-Mobile. You would need the T-Mobile version of the HD2 for that. T-Mobile throttles speeds back one tier from what you pay for when you hit the soft cap. For example, if you pay for the 3G/4G service, you will get throttled back to EDGE. It will still show a 3G or HSPA connection, but the speeds will be down to somewhere around 100kbps down and 70kbps up. If you don't get 3G with them anyway, then you won't see any difference at all.
2. AT&T does not have any unlimited plans anymore. Even if you get a data plan with them, they can absolutely detect the IMEI number even on non-AT&T devices. They will send you a free text telling you that you need to be on a smartphone data plan. If you ignore the text, within a couple of days, you will have the lowest plan of $15 data for 200MB added to your account.
3. Again, they can detect the type of device you are using and will add an appropriate plan to your account for your device. Data speeds depend on the coverage area and the device you are using. Only the Telstra HD2 is able to get 3G on AT&T. The European and T-Mobile ones will only ever get EDGE speeds.
4. This is the same as what I described above. Once you start using the iPhone, it will be detected and your plan will be adjusted accordingly, whether you allow them to do so or not.
You will get much better customer service and data consistency on T-Mobile in most cases. Their plans are also WAY cheaper on T-Mobile. Depending on which HD2 you actually have, your data speeds will vary in comparison to AT&T. I, personally, have been a contract-free customer with T-Mobile for a very long time. I still pay $50 for 1000 minutes a month, which is unlimited for me, unlimited texts, and unlimited data. I'm grandfathered in, so I also do not have a soft cap on my data connection, nor do I have to pay for tethering.
When all is said and done, the best thing about T-Mobile is that it isn't AT&T.
You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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IMEI's are very easy for carriers to look up. It does not only apply to devices they carry. This is a common myth. Once they see the IMEI of a smartphone, whether it is theirs or not, you get stuck with the smartphone data plan. It makes no difference. IMEI's are easily available and carriers have a database of which devices they belong to.
does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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They are going to tack on a smartphone data plan, but yes, you can use it on their network after you get a SIM from them.
I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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1. It is prepaid. They cannot make changes to your account on prepaid. They can only block the internet. On postpaid, they won't know. Lots of people are using unbranded phones on the postpaid featurephone data plan. This has been happening for a while.
2. Non-branded ATT smartphones work on the prepaid $50 plan. Been tested and reported on. People are using the Samsung Galaxy S2 on there even. Although, speeds may be throttled.
Yes, there are databases of devices available. ATT doesn't care or look at them though.
So, OP. If you do get a ATT 3g HD2, you can use it on the prepaid or postpaid plan. Prepaid might be throttled, but you won't know for sure until you try it. If you use the t-mobile version you will only get edge speeds.
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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For a prepaid account, yes, all of what you said above is true.
Zythyr said:
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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Correct. If you use unbranded/non-ATT phones. The internet will also work, although may be throttled. Most ATT phones will have the internet blocked, unless you pay extra for it.
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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T-Mobile doesn't pull that same shady crap like AT&T does. You are allowed to use any phone you want on their network without having to worry about your speeds or data plan changing. I'm using a T-mobile branded HD2 on a plan I've had with them for years. My plan is still the same $50 I was paying when I first ran away from AT&T. I've never once been forced to change my plan for anything. I think you'll find that T-Mobile is a MUCH more friendly and open atmosphere than AT&T. Once you've dealt with them for a while, you'll understand why nearly every T-Mobile customer hates the proposed AT&T takeover. Most of us switched to T-Mobile to get away from AT&T's nearly evil practices. Also, you will only get 3G speeds on T-Mobile if your HD2 is T-Mobile branded. You do not have to pay extra for 3G or "4G" speeds with them. Their unlimited data plans do get throttled when you hit 5GB of data, but most users will never get that far. If you have a link to the plan details you are referring to, I can give you a much better run down of what to expect.
EDIT: Here's another cool thing about being on T-Mobile - they actually care about making you happy as a customer. Yesterday, I got a coupon in the mail with my statement. It was for 50% off any accessories in their stores. That isn't to say that I'm going to use it, since I don't shop in their stores, but it is still a nice gesture. There is also another separate piece of mail heading out to current customers that is a $25 gift card for use in any of their stores. This type of thing is pretty typical of them. So, let's break it down then, shall we?
With T-mobile, you get faster data, better customer service, reliable call connections, cheaper bills, and all of this with a company that isn't AT&T.
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
Zythyr said:
So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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About 80-100KBps, or roughly EDGE speeds.
slow as dog ****
i past my 5gb the other day and i can tell you now its slow as dog ****,i use my htc sensation to tether my laptop i forgot not to be downloading movies stupid me now when on xda from laptop the pictures in threads that people post take all day to display i will never past my 5gb again
Will I at least be able to get regular 3g speeds or do they throttle you even more?
Bad. Very, very, very, very bad.
I work for a retailer and I sell a hell of a lot of T-Mobile. You will be down to edge and from then on, it's pretty unusable. Their HSPA+ is brilliant in my area. It rivals the speeds of VZW's LTE here... But running on 2G is horrible. If you're on a classic plan and can afford to shell out another $10 a month, I'd just go for the truly unlimited data without any throttling. I mean, that's if you don't feel that 2 GIGs of HSPA+ is enough.
I'll be going with their $30/mo plan with 5gb of 4g data. You have to really try to go over 5gb of data lol
spitefulcheerio said:
I'll be going with their $30/mo plan with 5gb of 4g data. You have to really try to go over 5gb of data lol
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If you're spending $30/month it's unlimited now. There is no throttling on that plan. Th only 5GB plan they offer is $35 and that gives you the mobile hotspot feature. So, you should be good either way! I love the anti-throttle that they have going on. Definitely worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan if you ask me.
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If you're spending $30/month it's unlimited now. There is no throttling on that plan. Th only 5GB plan they offer is $35 and that gives you the mobile hotspot feature. So, you should be good either way! I love the anti-throttle that they have going on. Definitely worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan if you ask me.
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the $30 Monthly 4G it says first 5GB up to 4G speeds.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
found out that they throttle you to 2g speeds.
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print the on the $30 Monthly 4G it says unlimited data up to 5GB max.
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Really? I'm going to check that when I get in to work today. I've read the fine prints on our new "TRULY UNLIMITED" brochures and the new contracts and I don't recall reading anything about that. I wouldn't put it past big magenta, though. Seriously.
I do know that the old contracts read something about "To provide a good experience to the majority of our customers (blah blah blah) up to 5GB." At our meeting a few months back about this, we were all told to make sure we're switching customers off of their grandfathered unlimited data plans that had the 5GB cap and move them to the newer ones.
Then again, I'm at a retailer that does VZW and AT&T as well, so I could be misinformed when it comes to that. I'm definitely going to have to look into it more.
kzoodroid said:
Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the $30 Monthly 4G it says first 5GB up to 4G speeds.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
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Monthly4G plans are prepaid. Truly Unlimited Nationwide 4G is only offered on postpaid accounts. Assuming the OP is talking about a postpaid Truly Unlimited Nationwide 4G account, then there is no (advertised) throttle. As described here:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
"There are no limits, no overages, no worries—you never have to keep track of how much data you use."
Monthly4G accounts will throttle to EDGE speeds after you use up your allotment of 4G (ex. "*First 5 GB at up to 4G speeds").
I wonder how T-Mobile's plans will shake up next year when they get rid of contract plans altogether and introduce LTE.
I went over my throttle limit once, when I move houses and didn't have broadband for a month. Throttle is slow.. Slower than edge. About the same speed as dialup.
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