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Do you use an antivirus on your Aria or other Android phone?

While I wait for my micro sd to get here to root and use my Aria, I have been just playing around with it and checking out various apps in the market. Then I saw an antivirus app and downloaded. Since I am new to Android, I thought I would ask others whether they have had any problems (or if there are problems) that require an antivirus. Or is it just a useless app?
I noticed there are apps that can contain some important information (i.e. mobile banking and e-mails), but is an antivirus really needed?
Thanks in advance for the discussion.

I personally do not use one, and don't plan on using one unless someone supplies a greatly convincing argument. While I don't doubt that it is a possibility in the future it will be needed, I don't believe they are necessary up to this point. From what I've read there are very few viruses/malware whatnot out there written to affect Android. Everytime you install an app it tells you exactly what it needs to access on that second screen. Also, I'm not sure if you have any experience with what a lot of antivirus applications tend to do to computers speed, but I imagine it'd affect the phone in a similar fashion.
You can read a better constructed forum post about it here
If I'm incorrect on anything someone please correct me

Thanks. That was a good read.
I was just unsure if I want to use the online banking app. It is very helpful and useful but I was just a bit hesitant.

No problem In my opinion, I think for something like that (I use Mint personally, if you don't know what it is, you should check it out for banking/credit cards, finance in general) losing the phone and having the information get into the wrong hands is a bigger concern than a virus stealing it. Again, that's my opinion. Although there are apps for the scenario I described also SMobile Anti-Theft is the only one I can think of off the top of my head for no particular reason, but I know there are a few others (possibly better, not using one myself just yet) out there

Mobile Antivirus = Rip off and waste of phone resources. Sad part is, many programs meant to facilitate tracking your own phone (lost/stolen) for some reason include antivirus kind of crap in it. There are alternatives, but none the less it's all complete nonsense.
Works great, never had a virus with it! Or without it.

I dont have one on my android right now It's true I have to download antivirus software now for Cellphones, especialy android phones. Some of them like avast already have this option. I've read ZenOK Free Antivirus is going to release a free version too. which one you recommend

Never used antivirus on my android phone or my Ubuntu laptop. Never had any problems. I think worst case scenario right now is receiving a virus via email and forwarding it on to an unsuspecting windows box. But then again anyone who gets that email on windows And doesn't have antivirus is foolish.
Of course this could all change in the future and it may one day be necessary yo use an antivirus on android.
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With your phone it may not be really needed but your laptop?! Do you know how many viruses, malicious software, adware and spyware could be on your laptop right now? I would suggest at least using it on your laptop. Anyways, I do personally use one on my phone as well.

theonew said:
With your phone it may not be really needed but your laptop?! Do you know how many viruses, malicious software, adware and spyware could be on your laptop right now? I would suggest at least using it on your laptop. Anyways, I do personally use one on my phone as well.
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Are you familiar with Linux based systems such as Ubuntu? It works the same way as android, which is also Linux based. It doesn't operate anything like a windows system. Everything runs in its own little 'box' (think .apks) and pretty much all software is downloaded through an Ubuntu download center (think Android Market). Everything has to have permissions, also just like android. It doesn't utilize .exe like windows. All this adds up to a system that is pretty secure. I don't download any software outside of the download center so I know where all my programs are coming from. All I use my ubuntu laptop for is surfing the web and messing with my phone. My laptop doesn't need an antivirus any more than my phone does. And my phone doesn't need any antivirus. People get stuck on that windows mentality (antivirus/task killers/memory managers).
Sent from my cm7 Aria.

Have never used an Antivirus on my phone I actually don't see how it's really of any use .-.
Everything I download app wise is from the Market and other than that I don't download anything besides a pic here and there

A virus cannot do anything malicious on Android or Linux without permissions, so I think antivirus can only protect a Linux computer or android phone from the user (who has to grant the permissions)...therefore I believe antivirus on android is mostly useless
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Antivirus App for the Vibrant?

As I was searching for something in the market place I ran across an Antivirus app:
Antivirus (Free version)
Antivirus ($9.99)
The Antivirus Pro (paid version) provides ongoing scanning of Android device, protecting against viruses, malware, OS exploits to ensure the integrity of applications and data. + Additional services for identifying phone location, using 'findR' to find lost or stolen devices based on GPS and cell tower ID.
In addition to the paid version, the free version scans mp3's, zip files, sd card's and has behavior mobile security.
I'm using the free version now and am debating if I should buy the full version.
Made by: droidSecurity Inc.
Anyone else using the paid version? If so, how is it working out for you? Recommended?

iunlock said:
As I was searching for something in the market place I ran across an Antivirus app:
Antivirus (Free version)
Antivirus ($9.99)
The Antivirus Pro (paid version) provides ongoing scanning of Android device, protecting against viruses, malware, OS exploits to ensure the integrity of applications and data. + Additional services for identifying phone location, using 'findR' to find lost or stolen devices based on GPS and cell tower ID.
In addition to the paid version, the free version scans mp3's, zip files, sd card's and has behavior mobile security.
I'm using the free version now and am debating if I should buy the full version.
Made by: droidSecurity Inc.
Anyone else using the paid version? If so, how is it working out for you? Recommended?
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There's another app called Lookout Mobile Security FREE that has darn near 5 star rating. It does pretty much what the paid version does of the Antivirus app above for $9.99, except that it's free.
It says, Winner of the Best Android App 2010...
It also has Phone Finder...which comes FREE with this App...
hhmmm

nope I've been using Lookout. Seems nice

There are viruses on Android? That's news to me. I mean, fake programs that steal your data, yeah, but viruses?

MMcCraryNJ said:
There are viruses on Android? That's news to me. I mean, fake programs that steal your data, yeah, but viruses?
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Haha it's all new to me too my friend...My initial reaction was, "Anti What? For Android?!"
I was so used to communist apple OS, being an iPhone user before where the word 'virus' was never in my vocabulary.
I'm going to try LookOut...heck it's Freeee

My opinion, don't waste your time with this man. Just uses resources of your phone.
I DO suggest lookout though. It is amazing to log into a website and find my phone (works pretty dang well), OR if you lose the phone in the house you can make it ring really loud.
With this app you also get AV and the ability to backup data to their server. I do not use the latter (you can disable features easily). But I have left on the AV for kicks and giggles.
I have NEVER heard of a virus on android, haha.

s15274n said:
My opinion, don't waste your time with this man. Just uses resources of your phone.
I DO suggest lookout though. It is amazing to log into a website and find my phone (works pretty dang well), OR if you lose the phone in the house you can make it ring really loud.
With this app you also get AV and the ability to backup data to their server. I do not use the latter (you can disable features easily). But I have left on the AV for kicks and giggles.
I have NEVER heard of a virus on android, haha.
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I'm using LookOut now...much better program it seems than the other one. The phone location feature is pretty neat too.

As long as you actually consider the permissions when installing apps and don't grant root access to some unknown app, antivirus is COMPLETELY unnecessary.

[Q] Anti-Virus, is it really needed?

Hello there chaps & chapettes(?),
I come to you today with a very real and possibly useful question. I come today to ask if there is a need for an anti-virus on smartphones at the moment and to gain an idea of the amount of HD2 users who do use an anti-virus.
So, would you say that there is any real need for an anti-virus? Are there many threats out there for us smartphone users? And do any of you have an anti-virus and if so, which is the one most recommended?
As an IT Engineer, I see many PC deaths attributed to malware of various flavours and I'd rather not see my beloved phone fall folly to these harmful programs.
Thanks for your responses (in advance),
Martin

I personally do not use one, but it depends on personal choice and what you use your phone for really.
Viruses and malware are fairly uncommon on android, but they do exist.
For example if you download a lot on your phone, or try unknown apps in market (viruses have been known to to find their way into the market) then you could maybe look into trying one.
Hope this helped
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IMHO, even on a PC, the anti-virus software often causes more harm than good, simply by slowing the system down considerably, especially the file system access, with its background scanning. Most of the viruses those days are stupid user oriented, you have to actually launch the virus/worm yourself for it to infect you. This kind of viruses only requires a tiny bit of common sense to avoid without using any anti-virus software. The other kind use well known network exploits - all i can say about it is "firewall yourself", there is nothing out of the ordinary in the way those viruses initially connect, a simple NAT router should protect you from those. There are also ones that infect you using some kind of browser, or other app exploit, but those are killed off at the distributing server side the moment they are discovered (anti-virus won't help you if you've stumbled upon one of those in zero days). And finally, some of those can be silent, properly coded, totally invisible, getting to you through some unknown exploits, using rootkit methods to hide etc... Those are the kind antiviruses are totally going to miss anyway.
The bottom line is - i don't see much point in using an antivirus on a PC. And you are actually asking me here if i think one should use it on an Android device ? Well, my answer is "No", unless you are a total stranger to some minimal common sense in this area.

I'll state this as someone who even leaves his wifi unlocked at home, but anyway...
My only viewpoint is that the only entry point for Malware is via Market downloads, and by that I mean downloading loads of apps from unknown names. While I know this advice will be disproved long-term, personally I would not bother unless I was silly with downloading apps from strange sources with weird permissions
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smeddy said:
I'll state this as someone who even leaves his wifi unlocked at home...
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I did this too, pretty much isolated from the LAN, though. I've stopped doing it after someone started torrenting on it, and i am not talking occasionally fetching stuff here and there, limiting the BW to some sane values, but heavy, 24/7, bandwidth hogging torrenting.

virus?

I know it's possible to get malware from installing certain apps but can you get it from going on certain websites like on a pc? I think I went on a website that could possibly have had a virus, but is there any way of knowing if I have one or not? I just downloaded webroot and lookout free versions but I'm not sure if they protect from bad websites.

You can't get a virus by visiting a website on either a pc or tablet unless you click yes or accept some java thingy

There is a free ativirus i think on market

spot_1337 said:
You can't get a virus by visiting a website on either a pc or tablet unless you click yes or accept some java thingy
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This is not necessarily true, there are from time to time very critical bugs and exploits one can use to automatically set up a virus by just visiting a site, afaik. Those viruses are often OS and Browserspecific though. So just make sure everything is uptodate, and you're good to go
I don't think you should have much concerns about malware on android, as long as you don't download and install every app you come across.

[Q] Android Antivirus

Hi All
Im a newly converted Android user after purchasing the Nexus 10. Being a newbie to the Android and Tablet world i was just wondering if Antivirus apps are something worth bothering about especially considering im downloading torrents on occasions.
Is Antivirus just something thats not really needed on a tablet, also if you are using one which one do you find is best and doesnt use up to much resources?
Thanks

jvanassen said:
Hi All
Im a newly converted Android user after purchasing the Nexus 10. Being a newbie to the Android and Tablet world i was just wondering if Antivirus apps are something worth bothering about especially considering im downloading torrents on occasions.
Is Antivirus just something thats not really needed on a tablet, also if you are using one which one do you find is best and doesnt use up to much resources?
Thanks
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Antivirus is basically not needed on a tablet, some people like to have it on phones mainly for the all in one security apps that provide antivirus (Mobile Antivirus applications are known for warning you about false positives) plus device recovery and location tools in case your device is lost or stolen. In reality the best antivirus solution for mobile devices is be carefully what applications you download and install, double check the permissions and see if they are realistic for the application that is requesting them. For example, there is no reason a calculator app needs to be able to read your call log's to function. Your less at risk downloading torrents on your mobile device but you still have to be careful with and pay attention to what you download. At the end of the day healthy caution, carefulness, and little research is the best antivirus solution for mobile devices right now.

I've been using McAfee Mobile on tab for over a year and had only one false positive. I contacted them about it and it was corrected within a few days with an update.

Good question. I wonder how they are on battery life and resource hogging........there a lot of choices.

Thanks for your reply shimp208.
Yea i did wonder whether AV was really needed on a tablet or whether it was just a pointless app for the supplier to make some money from ppl being over cautious.

Consider this: It is simply not possible for an antivirus app to detect a real Android virus, trojan or exploit in another app. Since the virus app is an app it is in its own sandbox: it cannot scan the resources of other apps in their sandbox.
Even if if could, it could not remove those resources.
So all it can do is check the permissions of apps, and check media files on your sdcard against a windows virus database.
I've seen the MacAfee app on my friend's phone warn about jpeg viruses. It's silly that anyone would think a windows jpeg virus could affect Android.
It's a scam, folks.