I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but I was messing around with the laptop dock about a week ago, trying to get my unlimited data to work while using the laptop dock. I succeeded, and failed, and succeeded. In doing this, I changed my apn to US tether (broadband), and then back to the US HSDPA apn. I read on another thread:
"Not if you don't want AT&T to change your data plan to one with tethering... They will change ANYONE who connects to the apn "broadband" to a tethering package, and are reluctant to give you back your unlimited plan (assuming you have one)."
If they had changed my plan, wouldn't this mean that the laptop dock would allow me to access the internet on the 3G connection, without me changing any settings?
I'm kind of angry that they would have the gall to do such a thing. I can't verify that they've changed my plan yet, but if they have, ugh.
Sign into your account online at att.com and you can see if they changed your account. If they did then yes you should be able to use the laptop dock without doing anything. Check the forums for the instructions on how to get tethering without having the plan.
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Phew...no extra tethering charges. Thanks.
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Would buy a laptop dock today if I wasn't being asked to relinquish my unlimited data plan in the process. Any way to bypass the tethering check? When I placed my phone into a dock it checks for either data tethering OR wireless network connection. My suggestion, but don't know if it can be done: a program that tricks the phone into thinking its on wifi when running 4g (a la 3g unrestrictor for ios). Is this possible at all? I know some people were asking about a similar program in order to run skype off of android in 3d a while back (prior to skype now accepting 3g for calls).
If I posted this in the wrong section, my apologies.
Moved to general as not android development
As off right now the laptop dock doesn't work with the work around to allow wifi tether without tethering data plan. Because it actually checks with att if you have the proper data plan. I've been searching for something similar to the iphone app my wii 3g.
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i mean i can take my sim card out, use it with my dell streak, and connect the atrix with dock to my hotspot, but that's another phone i have to haul around... i'm still likely to buy the dock, $399 at amazon isn't all bad.
I just bought the dock, and I have some interesting notes to add:
When I plugged in my phone to the dock at the AT&T store, the dock did not check if I had tethering. When I then pruchased the dock, walked out to my car, and plugged it in, it did not check and I did browse the internet. I then drove home and tried again, and this time it told me that I needed a tethering plan. This all has to be a software check which runs at certain times, which leads me to believe that we can find and remove it.
I am replying to this while on the laptop dock. I do NOT have the tethering plan. I used this guide to enable hot spot and it works with firefox webtop.
Key for me was set up new APN, plug phone into laptop dock, THEN turn on hotspot. I am also using the atrix's hotspot with another pc.
edit: bah, turned off hotspot but i am still able to surf the web on the laptop dock. this is confusing.
I was able to get it to work somehow.
Here is what i did:
1) Created the custom APN for free tethering as described here.
2) Under APN type i put the following: default,dun,tether
3) i made sure my wifi hostspot is working properly (to make sure i setup the APN correctly). Once confirmed i shut down the hotspot app.
4) connected the HD media dock and launched webtop - it tried to verify the connection and kinda got stuck there.
5) i then changed the APN from the one i created to a built in one called "AT&T US Tether". at that point Webtop got access to the internet somehow (an no i don't have a tethering plan, i have an grandfathered unlimited data plan).
6) I immediately switched back to my custom APN after i saw webtop passed the connection authorization stage and voila...it is online via 3G/4G. I know for sure that the webtop is connecting through the custom APN and somehow - it works.
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I was able to get it to work somehow.
Here is what i did:
1) Created the custom APN for free tethering as described here.
2) Under APN type i put the following: default,dun,tether
3) i made sure my wifi hostspot is working properly (to make sure i setup the APN correctly). Once confirmed i shut down the hotspot app.
4) connected the HD media dock and launched webtop - it tried to verify the connection and kinda got stuck there.
5) i then changed the APN from the one i created to a built in one called "AT&T US Tether". at that point Webtop got access to the internet somehow (an no i don't have a tethering plan, i have an grandfathered unlimited data plan).
6) I immediately switched back to my custom APN after i saw webtop passed the connection authorization stage and voila...it is online via 3G/4G. I know for sure that the webtop is connecting through the custom APN and somehow - it works.
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nice, i did something similar. but the odd thing for me though is that i turned off hotspot while docked and internet is still good to go. no wifi in sight so i know it's not picking up anything else.
Here's what I did.
1. Setup the wifi tethering hack (custom APN - AT&T with type default)
2. I docked it - it goes into - checking account status for webtop etc.
3. In the settings of the webtop (left of wifi icon, the little gear icon - go to advanced and then network proxy - change Location from Cellular to Default
That did it for me.
Hope it helps you too
clubtech said:
I was able to get it to work somehow.
Here is what i did:
1) Created the custom APN for free tethering as described here.
2) Under APN type i put the following: default,dun,tether
3) i made sure my wifi hostspot is working properly (to make sure i setup the APN correctly). Once confirmed i shut down the hotspot app.
4) connected the HD media dock and launched webtop - it tried to verify the connection and kinda got stuck there.
5) i then changed the APN from the one i created to a built in one called "AT&T US Tether". at that point Webtop got access to the internet somehow (an no i don't have a tethering plan, i have an grandfathered unlimited data plan).
6) I immediately switched back to my custom APN after i saw webtop passed the connection authorization stage and voila...it is online via 3G/4G. I know for sure that the webtop is connecting through the custom APN and somehow - it works.
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Working for me as well Followed your directions exactly.
THIS WORKS! Awesome find, now I don't have to give up my unlimited plan.
So I've been going back and forth on what phone to get. In the end, it sounds like the Atrix has nearly as bright and colorful a screen as the Infuse, has a smaller device footprint, and still has gorilla glass. So I came to xda to see if...
1) Can I sideload apps?
2) Use the laptop dock without giving up my unlimited data plan?
3) Where is it cheapest to purchase the phone and possibly the dock off contract?
Seems like 1 is possible with root and upgrades, and 2 sounds possible as well. Are you having to go though each of those steps EVERY TIME you want to use the dock?
And if anyone has any suggestions on cheapest availability for someone in Washington State, I'd love to get this from somewhere tax free if possible.
Thanks in advance.
Hi,everyone,I need some advises here.
I used my laptop browsing via mobile hotspot 2 days ago, today I received a sms from tmobile asks me to add $15 hotspot program. My laptop can't loading pages anymore,only thing appear on the screen is warning message from tmobile,says I must have mobile hotspot service added in order to use it. I don't wanna pay extra $15 for just using hotspot. Btw,I have 2g data plan already. Is there anyway we could go around it to use hotspot without being caught. Or paying it is only option?
Are you rooted? If you are, Google wireless tether apk, download it, install it and use that instead of the hot spot that comes with the device. Or you can switch to a different custom rom. Those 2 options usually do the trick.
If you're not rooted, then there's nothing you can do but to pay the fees.
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Hi,everyone,I need some advises here.
I used my laptop browsing via mobile hotspot 2 days ago, today I received a sms from tmobile asks me to add $15 hotspot program. My laptop can't loading pages anymore,only thing appear on the screen is warning message from tmobile,says I must have mobile hotspot service added in order to use it. I don't wanna pay extra $15 for just using hotspot. Btw,I have 2g data plan already. Is there anyway we could go around it to use hotspot without being caught. Or paying it is only option?
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Either root and get a custom rom or root and get barnacle tether
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Tmobile is having a deal where you get free hotspot an picture sync.promo for the 5gb an 10gb plans, all you have to do is ask bout it
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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Thank you for help!
my phone is rooted, and i did try several wifi tethering app to bypass tmobile, it actually worked.
Barnacle Wifi Tether and another app named Wifi Tether doesn't work in my phone, but one app named Wireless Tether works flawlessly.
Moreover, I have to delete firefox in my laptop and install other version in order to get rid of T-mobile cookies, otherwise tmobile warning page will stay there forever.
Thank you again!
sunwave said:
Thank you for help!
my phone is rooted, and i did try several wifi tethering app to bypass tmobile, it actually worked.
Barnacle Wifi Tether and another app named Wifi Tether doesn't work in my phone, but one app named Wireless Tether works flawlessly.
Moreover, I have to delete firefox in my laptop and install other version in order to get rid of T-mobile cookies, otherwise tmobile warning page will stay there forever.
Thank you again!
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this is one of reasons I use Chrome, even when I wasn't rooted and was using stock Wi-Fi Hotspot I never once received any messages from TMO about adding Hotspot to my account
Anyone agree that its safe to assume if I setup my own private vpn at home I can vpn through that as an encrypted session which will stop att from snooping my data, then in turn if I vpn first then run a hotspot they'd be none the wiser?
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Anyone agree that its safe to assume if I setup my own private vpn at home I can vpn through that as an encrypted session which will stop att from snooping my data, then in turn if I vpn first then run a hotspot they'd be none the wiser?
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I would say a resounding NO. They don't care if your data is encrypted or not, VPN will do absolutely nothing to mask the amount of packet data your device is sending/receiving. You most likely don't have unlimited data (if you did before) and will probably be charged per gigabyte if you go over your monthly allowance.
From my understanding, carriers really cant stop you from tethering without a "tethering plan" once your device is rooted. I believe that's why most carriers got rid of unlimited data and moved to the tiered data plans. If you happen to somehow still have unlimited data and generate a lot of bandwidth, once they realize that your using an absurd amount of data without a tethering plan, they will hit you hard with overage charges. I think Verizon charges per kilobyte, not sure about AT&T.
I still have unlimited LTE data with AT&T but know if I hit 5GB in a month they throttle the hell out of me since I've hit it before. The reason I ask is if/when I'd ever use it then it would be more for a light connection like say if the GF wants to use the ipad in the car on a road trip. Or if I get some on call issue for work where I need a connection for my laptop on the go but not as a replacement for any large data transfers.
I just thought part of how the carriers tell that people are tethering would be say if you have an android phone and they start to notice traffic from your device to say Windows Update or the ITunes store and hence the VPN encryption if used day to day would mask any calls later that would be tethering related.
They can't tell if you're tethering plain and simple.
Your phone is sending and receiving the packets so thats all they see, if an app or your phone broadcasts those packets it doesn't matter as your phone is the connection point.
At the end of the day your phone is asking to go to youtube.com if it gives youtube to your iPad all you carrier see is that your phone wants youtube, not why.
The safest way to tether is to always use a VPN on the client that your tethered to your hotspot with. There are some great super cheap VPNs out there that have great bandwidth and good security.
Carriers can definitely tell if you're tethering - this isn't rocket science when you're using packet capturing tools. If you're constantly going to websites with a desktop browser they can see from the browser stats that it's a desktop vs mobile.
The other method is perhaps capturing the mac address off the packet isn't from a mobile-branded device. Since the phone hotspot is NAT'ing all the traffic from your own little private lan to the outside public addressing it *should* only contain the phone's IP and MAC, but depending on the packets it could also contain information from a device within the private lan (mac addresses). I have never tested this but in theory it's possible.
It's one thing to tether a tablet or another phone, most likely seems you would probably not get caught doing that.. but still possible. Tethering your desktop/laptop.. yea you'll get caught.
Like I said, use a VPN and you most likely won't be caught.
I think no need to. ived been tethering since 2010 using rooted phone(or non rooted using foxfi) and my 3gb data plan limit is the same. no notice from att that they detected that I am tethering and sometimes I over 2gb so I pay extra 20 bucks though
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Yes so I have changed cell phones from an LG K425 piece of garbage to a Motorola Razer 2 phone but now I am getting notices that I have gone over my 10 gigs a month hot spot which I haven't EVER gotten in the past almost 2 years or more of service. Guessing the Razer 2 has somehow reported this usage whereas the old LG didn't? Any suggestions or comments about what to do about this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
"Mobile HotSpot on AT&T grandfathered Unlimited Plan" If you have a regular At&t plan the hotspot is easily employed...... I have the grandfathered plan that sends me the "Call 611 to enable."
Does anyone have a way to employ the mobile hotspot on the Galaxy G935A? Seeing as there is no root, is there any coding or permission tweaks I can try to get the Hotspot to work?
FoxFi works with tethering, but turns up a 10246 permission error for Hotspot. I though I had it when I kept the system from checking my plan with At&t.....But eventually, the system picked up on the blocking I employed.
Two main reasons for me to root are Viper4Android, which there is not get-around. The second is the Mobile Hotspot. When I travel with my kids, they used to use my Rooted G3 to play Youtube, games, and interactive apps to keep them busy on long road trips.
My choices, buy a G935F on Ebay and root it.....but then I would have to sell my G935A.
Someone miraculously figures a way to root.
I find a work-around and change "permissions."
I'm leaning toward the new phone, just hate spending $700 on Ebay with electronics.......
Any help is appreciated, even the slap of reality to "just get the F" and quit screwing around with the A.....
-dmxinc
dmxinc said:
"Mobile HotSpot on AT&T grandfathered Unlimited Plan" If you have a regular At&t plan the hotspot is easily employed...... I have the grandfathered plan that sends me the "Call 611 to enable."
Does anyone have a way to employ the mobile hotspot on the Galaxy G935A? Seeing as there is no root, is there any coding or permission tweaks I can try to get the Hotspot to work?
FoxFi works with tethering, but turns up a 10246 permission error for Hotspot. I though I had it when I kept the system from checking my plan with At&t.....But eventually, the system picked up on the blocking I employed.
Two main reasons for me to root are Viper4Android, which there is not get-around. The second is the Mobile Hotspot. When I travel with my kids, they used to use my Rooted G3 to play Youtube, games, and interactive apps to keep them busy on long road trips.
My choices, buy a G935F on Ebay and root it.....but then I would have to sell my G935A.
Someone miraculously figures a way to root.
I find a work-around and change "permissions."
I'm leaning toward the new phone, just hate spending $700 on Ebay with electronics.......
Any help is appreciated, even the slap of reality to "just get the F" and quit screwing around with the A.....
-dmxinc
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Can someone help me try this? THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS HERE
-I opened the mobile Hotspot app, set it up while I was connected to my home wifi network.
It worked, but used my home network as the hotspot.
-Next, I shut my wifi off and expected the error, but the phone hotspot transferred to the 4g, as long as I didn't turn the hotspot off.
I also tried this at an open cafe wifi hotspot, then turned off the phone wifi again, the hotspot remained working as long as I didn't hit the back button.
* I did get a tetherprovision.apk error, but it didn't shut the phone mobile hotspot off.
I tried this on my wifes S6 Edge, but it didn't work. Can someone try the S7 and S7 edge G935A
***To make sure it was the phone hotspot, I checked ip addresses before and after the WIFI was turned off. Ip adress changed from where I live to a place in Maryland, so fairly sure it wasn't just a fluke, but that is why I need someone to test it........Thanks
-dmxinc
I had the same challenge (unlimited data but no tether provisioning) and wanted to tether without giving up my awesome plan or pissing off my employer (my corporate plan includes international LTE roaming -- amazing!). Being unable to root and having unsuccessfully tried FoxFi (gave me an error message about internal connectivity or somesuch) I discovered Samsung already has an app for this called SideSync. It requires a USB cable but is able to set up its own hotspot.
I'm using a Mac laptop with SM-G930A and after installing SideSync on both the Mac and the phone, and launching both, I can detect the phone connection (apparently this works better when the app is running in the background but not on its home screen). Then I can click the "More" button on the Mac side and launch "Enable Mobile Hotspot". You'll need to give it MTP and several other access permissions the first time, but it should create and configure a WAP of the form "SIDESYNC_HOTSPOT_##:##" and connect the Mac to it. This works even if your phone provisioning wouldn't normally allow it. Easy!
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I had the same challenge (unlimited data but no tether provisioning) and wanted to tether without giving up my awesome plan or pissing off my employer (my corporate plan includes international LTE roaming -- amazing!). Being unable to root and having unsuccessfully tried FoxFi (gave me an error message about internal connectivity or somesuch) I discovered Samsung already has an app for this called SideSync. It requires a USB cable but is able to set up its own hotspot.
I'm using a Mac laptop with SM-G930A and after installing SideSync on both the Mac and the phone, and launching both, I can detect the phone connection (apparently this works better when the app is running in the background but not on its home screen). Then I can click the "More" button on the Mac side and launch "Enable Mobile Hotspot". You'll need to give it MTP and several other access permissions the first time, but it should create and configure a WAP of the form "SIDESYNC_HOTSPOT_##:##" and connect the Mac to it. This works even if your phone provisioning wouldn't normally allow it. Easy!
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I am on Win 10, I will try and find Sidesync, or an equivalent thanks! But, that is exactly what I was looking for!
If I find a Windows equivalent, I will repost.
Thanks again,.
I found it but it says both devices utilize the same wifi connection. Will it Direct Connect them and use 4g as the wifi?
dmxinc said:
I am on Win 10, I will try and find Sidesync, or an equivalent thanks! But, that is exactly what I was looking for!
If I find a Windows equivalent, I will repost.
Thanks again,.
I found it but it says both devices utilize the same wifi connection. Will it Direct Connect them and use 4g as the wifi?
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Not sure what you mean by utilizing the same wifi connection -- It is NOT the WiFi Direct feature if that's what you mean..if the phone is connected in that mode, this will need to be turned off first. Mine handles the setup of the hotspot automatically (at least on Mac). It's a little wonky but usually works on the first try. And yes... once it's working, the phone shows that it's got a device connected via wi-fi sharing icon, and the laptop shows it's using SIDESYNC_HOTSPOT.
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Not sure what you mean by utilizing the same wifi connection -- It is NOT the WiFi Direct feature if that's what you ttle wonky but usually works on the first try. And yes... once it's working, the phone shows that it's got a device connected via wi-fi sharing icon, and the laptop shows it's using SIDESYNC_HOTSPOT.
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If figured it wasn't the Direct. It installed and loaded right up, but it disconnected on the PC side every few seconds. I think it might be my A.V. software......I'm going to mess around with it this weekend to see if that's the issue. Thanks for tips.
So sidesync is a hotspot app, must be installed on all devices that want to connect to hotspot (in this case galaxy g930a). Is this correct?
So I just rooted my phone mainly to use hotspot and I can't get it to work. I'm on cricket wireless and when I tried turning it on I got an error saying I had to pay for the add-on.
Did a quick search and tried putting net.tethering.noprovisioning=true at the end of my build.prop and that got the hotspot to turn on. But when I actually connect on my laptop I get a limited connection and can't actually load any webpages. Any way to get it working fully?
I am on Verizon and the hotspot worked right off the bat with no modifications. I am on a old grandfather unlimited data plan. At least about as unlimited as you get these days. I do not have the hotspot activated on my plan.