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All programs close when screen goes black

Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??

Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power

Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.

I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.

shuflie said:
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me

Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.

I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.

I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.

Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??

Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.

shuflie said:
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....

Strange, doesn't do that on mine.

shuflie said:
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!

I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.

Fallen Spartan said:
I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.

Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/

Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?

Screen Not Dimming With Auto Shut Off Disabled?

Please bear with me as this may be a dumb newbie question. I searched every post on the Imagio section here and at PPC and was unable to find an answer.
Got the Imagio for my wife and she's loving it (we had Storms previously- bad, bad mojo). She uses Groovefish to stream music and the stock dimmer setting will shut down the player after the time limit is reached. No problem, right? Changed the setting to stop this (never auto shut down on battery power).
Now, the screen will dim somewhat when left idle, but never shuts down all the way. It's dim but still active. She's been having to change the setting every time in order to not kill the battery.
Should the screen power down all the way while leaving the device active (like hitting the "shut off screen option" after holding the end button)? If not, is there a way to do this?
Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide. I've done nothing but Blackberries for years and this is my first real foray into WinMo.

Try to check the power settings. Go to the Settings Tab and push All settings at the bottom. From there go to System > Power > then click the Advanced tab. That should have settings to turn off the screen after 1 min or 30 seconds.

Thanks for the quick reply. I probably should have been a bit more clear.
It is in that menu that I have been manipulating the settings. There are two options for battery power. There is one to "turn off backlight" after x amount of time, the other is to "turn off device". With backlight set to 30 (or whatever) and device disabled, the screen never completely goes off.
It functions properly with "turn device off" enabled, but interrupts Groovefish when playing. This does not interfere with the native TF3D media player. While its not the end of the world if she ends up having to change that setting to use the program, it would be nice to be able to disable the screen with a partial shutdown (and extra battery drain when using that application).
Cheers!

Thats interesting, seems like its the program thats doing that. I have Opera, FM radio, email client, etc. running all day without it crashing. I have seen this before with Internet Explorer where i would leave it running connected to a website. then when i check back IE is gone and i have to start it again. By any chances is this a website or an installable app that you are using?

Groovefish is a streaming music client that is installed on the device
BTW, it is incredibly cool if you don't have it yet. Stream just about any song you want for free (legally).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88505

I use g-trigger to shake my phone to turn off the display works great! Just disable the shake to turn it back on.

I'll give it a shot and see if the application stays running. Many thanks!

Actually I think backlight off is happening when it "dims". You need the screen to go off, not just the backlight. Try using xdaShutdown to go into Lightsout mode and see if that works for you. The program can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544016
Skins in the same thread as well.

Custom Tasker Profiles

I personally don't use it, but I know it is a powerful app and since it can be set up to do many things,, I was wondering what custom thing's users are doing with it.
I'll maybe jump on board as well.
List your favorite things you use Tasker for.

I use it to silence my phone whenever my calendar says i'm working. That's about it really. Some of the things I bought it for are built into Android now but I paid for it so I make myself use it lol

AndroidRaven said:
I personally don't use it, but I know it is a powerful app and since it can be set up to do many things,, I was wondering what custom thing's users are doing with it.
I'll maybe jump on board as well.
List your favorite things you use Tasker for.
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I use it primarily to automate my phone's security.
When I'm home ---> phone connects to home wifi ---> tasker + secure settings turns off my pattern lock; turns bluetooth off and adjusts my volumes
When I leave home ---> phone disconnect from wifi ---> tasker turns my pattern lock back on; turns bluetooth on and adjusts my volumes
When I get in my car ---> phone connect to car's bluetooth ---> tasker + secure settings turns off my pattern lock; turns volumes all the way up
When I leave my car ---> phone disconnects from bluetooth ---> tasker turns my pattern lock back on; adjusts volume
When I get to work ---> phone connects to work wifi ---> tasker + secure settings turns off my pattern lock; turns bluetooth off and turns of vibration mode
When I leave work ---> phone disconnects from wifi ---> tasker turns my pattern lock back on; turns bluetooth back on
For me, this makes my phone secure when i need it to be and insecure when I know I'll be using it. At home, in my car and at work are all times that I have my phone on me and actively using it. I don't need a secure screen so I turn it off automatically with Tasker. When I'm away from any of these places I know I'll have a pattern lock in case I lose my phone. Piece of mind and very easy to set up.
I use tasker for a ton of other things (including quiet hours) but security is my most important use.

Here are some I have:
2 sound profiles to put the phone into silent mode at night and during work hours.
An auto off bluetooth profile that turns bluetooth off if it is disconnected for more than 15 minutes.'
3 music profiles all of which auto launch Google Music and auto play and set volumes depending on which bluetooth device or headset is connected. Line in headset also disables lockscreen, car bluetooth puts phone into landscape in the car dock, bluetooth headset disables lockscreen.
360 degree rotation when charging.
Overheating warning.

when it connects to my work wifi > adjust ringer volume to half
when i'm within 100m from the gym > turn BT on
when phone is docked/charging > turn BT on
that's all i've had a chance to dig into as of now. i know there are tons of other more advanced profiles to use/set up, but i haven't bothered with learning them.

1) turn pattern lock off when on home wifi
2) take a photo of anyone putting pattern lock in wrong (twice) and email me the photo
3) when closing the camera app,.look for all photos less than 15 minutes old and upload them using foldersync to my NAS via sftp
4) Schedule Nandroid backup every 4am on Saturday morning (ensure previous nandroid backup has been uploaded to NAS)
5) backup /sdcard every night to NAS
6) (Task only) - homescreen shortcut to flash all zips in alphabetical order in folder /sdcard/AFlash/zips
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I use a profile to turn off the lock when I'm home, and turn it back on when I'm away.
One to turn off the Wi-Fi when not home and back on when I get back home
And another to download the national geographic photo of the day and set it as the wallpaper every morning.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Launch car mode when plugged in and connected to my car's Bluetooth
Pattern lock when not home or in car
Quiet hours with emergency contact exceptions
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AndrasLOHF said:
Here are some I have:
2 sound profiles to put the phone into silent mode at night and during work hours.
An auto off bluetooth profile that turns bluetooth off if it is disconnected for more than 15 minutes.'
3 music profiles all of which auto launch Google Music and auto play and set volumes depending on which bluetooth device or headset is connected. Line in headset also disables lockscreen, car bluetooth puts phone into landscape in the car dock, bluetooth headset disables lockscreen.
360 degree rotation when charging.
Overheating warning.
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Do you mind sharing those so I can use them?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

For those with Tasks relative to being in the car, how are you determining that location?
I've been using the invert of my Home location, but that's not quite refined enough.
Can Tasker detect the uConnect BT in my Jeep? Or maybe by detecting accelerometer motions?
Curious.

markp99 said:
For those with Tasks relative to being in the car, how are you determining that location?
I've been using the invert of my Home location, but that's not quite refined enough.
Can Tasker detect the uConnect BT in my Jeep? Or maybe by detecting accelerometer motions?
Curious.
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Tasker can use your connect to BT to trigger actions.
You can have your device turn on BT (for a set number of minutes) when you disconnect from your Wifi. Then when it connects to your car via BT, it can turn off Wifi and/or open up your music player and increase the volume. Or do any number of things.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23301459&postcount=3
That list is a bit old list but I'm always adding or trying differnet things. Starting to use Scenes more now. Like the Sleepy Time one is now a Notification that pops up only during certain time then when I click it there is a small Scene with simple buttons, see attached images.
Also use Tasker to give me info in DashClock. Using OpenMic+ to launch Tasker stuff will make for some fun stuff too.

i use nfc tags associated with my car and home stuff. a tag has a tasker task linked to it. I also use a gym task/profile where when i get within 300m of the gym it turns bluetooth on adjusts volumes etc.

sbenson1226 said:
I use it primarily to automate my phone's security.
When I'm home ---> phone connects to home wifi ---> tasker + secure settings turns off my pattern lock; turns bluetooth off and adjusts my volumes
When I leave home ---> phone disconnect from wifi ---> tasker turns my pattern lock back on; turns bluetooth on and adjusts my volumes
When I get in my car ---> phone connect to car's bluetooth ---> tasker + secure settings turns off my pattern lock; turns volumes all the way up
When I leave my car ---> phone disconnects from bluetooth ---> tasker turns my pattern lock back on; adjusts volume
When I get to work ---> phone connects to work wifi ---> tasker + secure settings turns off my pattern lock; turns bluetooth off and turns of vibration mode
When I leave work ---> phone disconnects from wifi ---> tasker turns my pattern lock back on; turns bluetooth back on
For me, this makes my phone secure when i need it to be and insecure when I know I'll be using it. At home, in my car and at work are all times that I have my phone on me and actively using it. I don't need a secure screen so I turn it off automatically with Tasker. When I'm away from any of these places I know I'll have a pattern lock in case I lose my phone. Piece of mind and very easy to set up.
I use tasker for a ton of other things (including quiet hours) but security is my most important use.
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Hi,
how do you trigger the "quiet hours" setting with tasker? I want to have different startiing/ending times for quiet hours - including white list for calling. So I thought I try to find a way to trigger it from tasker.
Any ideas here?
cheers,
Tom

Ambient Display on 5.1 turns on screen fully when using media buttons

Hey guys,
Don't know if you've noticed yet, but Ambient Display on the N6 5.1 turn on the screen fully when playing/pausing/skipping from a BT device (possibly inline headphone media controls as well, but I don't have those to test). This means that it will turn on in your pocket when changing/pausing songs (it doesn't use proximity sensor). It also means that if you're navigating with the screen off and listening to audio, it will turn on every time you press a media button on your bluetooth radio, and since navigation keeps the screen on, it will stay on.
I honestly don't know if it's a bug or if it's another one of Google's brilliant "features", but I have created a bug report. If this annoys you please take a few seconds to star it: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=160035
I have also created a thread on the Nexus product forums https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-6/oZ1RlOeZ-Q0
Thanks.

I just noticed my phone did it this morning in my car listening to music. Kind of annoying but for me its not a big deal.
thanks,

There are 2 ways around this. Either disable ambient display, or set up smart lock and add your BT device as trusted. Had the same issue with my car radio but after setting the screen lock and trusted device, the screen stays dark. Hope this helps.

goinflyn said:
There are 2 ways around this. Either disable ambient display, or set up smart lock and add your BT device as trusted. Had the same issue with my car radio but after setting the screen lock and trusted device, the screen stays dark. Hope this helps.
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My BT stereo is already a trusted device. Could you double check this, please? Check if Ambient display is working first, cause yesterday after messing with it, I couldn't enable it until a reboot.

andy o said:
My BT stereo is already a trusted device. Could you double check this, please? Check if Ambient display is working first, cause yesterday after messing with it, I couldn't enable it until a reboot.
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I also have my BT headset as a Trusted Device and can confirm that my display still wakes on play/pause events. Very frustrating, nearly enough that I'd switch back to wired headphones.

apraetor said:
I also have my BT headset as a Trusted Device and can confirm that my display still wakes on play/pause events. Very frustrating, nearly enough that I'd switch back to wired headphones.
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I found a fix, pretty much by blind luck at the Tasker user help forum, using Tasker and the Secure Settings plugin. You may need to be rooted though. Not sure cause it's not on the "root actions" section of Secure Settings, but I think you have to be.
When setting up the plugin task, select Actions -> Device Setting. Then on Setting Table, "secure". Setting name, "doze_enabled", and Setting Value, "0" for off, "1" for on.
It's still ridiculous that this is happening though.

Car Mode prevents Recents key, enlarges other soft keys

All,
Any thoughts on preventing car mode from resizing the screen to accommodate the enlarged soft keys and re-enable the Recents button again? I need car mode to keep the screen on while driving, but not being able to quickly transition from Maps to Google Play Music with a double tap of the Recents button, as well as the reduced screen size, is beyond annoying. Saying "don't use car mode" without a solution to keep the screen on while driving (read: not just "while charging" like the developer option allows) isn't a valid solution.
I've attached a screenshot of the issue. Thanks in advance!
Sent from my LG-H910

Have you tried Android Auto. Google just updated it so you can run it stand alone on a phone. It would give you a simplified car friendly screen with quick access to music and maps.

nicholb said:
Have you tried Android Auto. Google just updated it so you can run it stand alone on a phone. It would give you a simplified car friendly screen with quick access to music and maps.
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I like the concept, I just don't like being limited to only accessing those select apps, I use lots of other things to search for addresses I travel to for work, driving 50K miles per year, so I'm in the car working (yes, stopped when accessing emails) and I hate having to disable car mode every time I need to multitask
Good suggestion, I am interested in the direction of Android Auto, just not for my main device at this time
Sent from my LG-H910

Now car mode prevents me from seeing that a call is currently active, nothing on the notification bar, nothing on the second screen, can't hang up unless I use the controls on the car steering wheel. Need to find another solution using Tasker or otherwise. Screen on while charging in developer's options dims the screen beyond usefulness.
Sent from my LG-H910

you're having strange issues, are you connecting to a head unit or using the phone alone? Im not having any problems, but i dont need to switch between apps. Also now that Android Auto works over Bluetooth its i can choose between wired connection(which doesn't let me change apps) or wireless is i want to use an app while stopped. As for the call issue sounds like something is triggering the proximity sensor, i had the same issue when i had a screen protector for a different device on at the beginning?

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Now car mode prevents me from seeing that a call is currently active, nothing on the notification bar, nothing on the second screen, can't hang up unless I use the controls on the car steering wheel. Need to find another solution using Tasker or otherwise. Screen on while charging in developer's options dims the screen beyond usefulness.
Sent from my LG-H910
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I just ordered the V20 today and intend on using it in Landscape mode while driving and using Google Maps or Waze. My previous phone Note 4, the screen would always stay on as long as i had Google Maps running. I never used the car mode feature and always had it plugged in while driving. Do you really need to use Car mode? Couldnt you just keep Google Maps active and access other apps as needed?

LOTL said:
I just ordered the V20 today and intend on using it in Landscape mode while driving and using Google Maps or Waze. My previous phone Note 4, the screen would always stay on as long as i had Google Maps running. I never used the car mode feature and always had it plugged in while driving. Do you really need to use Car mode? Couldnt you just keep Google Maps active and access other apps as needed?
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That would be fine for the times I'm ONLY using Maps, but not Music or anything else that keeps screen on while in foreground. If I switch to anything other than Maps, I have to switch back before the screen times out - and considering the power button is almost impossible to get to when mounted, that isn't a viable solution for me, unfortunately.

KryptosXLayer2 said:
That would be fine for the times I'm ONLY using Maps, but not Music or anything else that keeps screen on while in foreground. If I switch to anything other than Maps, I have to switch back before the screen times out - and considering the power button is almost impossible to get to when mounted, that isn't a viable solution for me, unfortunately.
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Yeah, this was the first thing I noticed\hated with either the V20 or 7.0, I hate that the nav buttons increase in car\dock mode. I use CarHome Ultra as my docking app and the only way I have found around it is to Auto hide the Navbar when I'm running CarHome Ultra and my Navigation GPS app. I auto-hide just those two apps from within the "Home Touch Button" tab in the Display settings. I can add shortcuts within CarHome Ultra to the apps I my use while driving: Etc...Nav, Messenger, phone app.
Hope this helps some.

That actually did help me! Thanks. I also use Car Home Ultra, which I love, but I had switched from 8 buttons to 6 because they were too squashed due to the nav buttons at the bottom.