I want to be able to sideload apps.
I want to be able to "tether" without the tether data plan, so I can occasionally use the Laptop Dock without spending $20/month.
I want to be able to load my apps from Google, which I think means using a different "ROM" and loosing MotoBlur, but tell me if I wrong.
I'm a long time smartphone user who's used a few different ROM changing apps. Willing to put in the time after the "rooting" I did yesterday didn't seem to do everything I hoped. Got pretty frustrated when I could only webtop in the laptop dock.
1. att should be releasing the ability to side load apps soon. they are allowing it on the samsung infuse. until then:
go to android central and search for sideload wonder machine. thing works flawlessly.
2. Im new to the tethering part here but from what i understand there are two types. sorry
3. currently there are no ROMS yet, there are pseudo ROMs available: greyblur, gingerblur. im using greyblur and the guy did some awesome work on it. both allow sideloading all day, as well as hdmi mirroring and webtopdock hack.
good luck
You can still use Google apps and Google Market surely? Otherwise it wouldn't be a proper android phone!
I can use the Market, but obviously if you normally install 30+ apps, it's awesome when you boot up a phone, sign in with your Google account, and all your backed up apps and data just show up on the new device. I did this with my Motorola Milestone and Xoom every time I'd update the OS, etc... and it works FLAWLESSLY, not to mention saves a LOT of time trying to remember all the apps you loaded.
The Webtop hack worries me, simply because I wonder if that isn't what is preventing my Laptop Dock from seeing my phone. I used Gladroot updating my phone to 1.57, and root works fine. But when I put the phone in the laptop dock, it wants to do Multimedia or nothing... and the dock doesn't "just work" like it did at the store. And I didn't think Gladroot did anything with the HDMI connect, so I wasn't expecting any issues because of it.
I think for this morning, I WILL just wipe it, removing root, etc. Update to the latest firmware again, and setup with the default options for now. Then I can at least see if the Laptop Dock works at all, using that different APN to try tethering without the $45/month plan, and I guess I'll go from there.
Once I have the Amazon Store loaded with that sideload program, I won't need that feature very often anyway.
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I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.) I got the phone and stuck with my current plan ($10 add-on line on family plan.) I am cheap, my family is cheap, so we have no data plan. We can't afford a data plan, so gettign one is not an option (sorry, maybe someday in the future.)
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
blueblur1986 said:
I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.) I got the phone and stuck with my current plan ($10 add-on line on family plan.) I am cheap, my family is cheap, so we have no data plan. We can't afford a data plan, so gettign one is not an option (sorry, maybe someday in the future.)
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
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Without data, you can text, call, listen to music, take pics, and download movies to the SD card from your computer.
Is this guy slow or something. You can do anything that doesn't use data, so the obvious things it can do were mentioned by the previous user. C'mon man, what a waste of time.
Well, actualy, pretty much anything "Android" is needing data, so stick with WinMo.
And then, you still has a GPS with Camera, music and video capacity. Pretty neat on it's own!
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Well, actualy, pretty much anything "Android" is needing data, so stick with WinMo.
And then, you still has a GPS with Camera, music and video capacity. Pretty neat on it's own!
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Well, the GPS isn't much good if you can't download maps.
You can still use it with TomTom or Garmin.
Ok, Android is out of the Question due to it's heavy reliance of data.
Is there a better Camera or video recording app than the one included? It takes decent photos, but the gallery is pokey. Video recording is lousy quality no matter what setting I put it on (hoping to get QVGA resolution at 15-25fps.)
If I want to use GPS, is TomTom or Garmin better? Which flash file is best for allowing use of GPS without Verizon navigator or some add-on service.
Also, is there any flash that helps to minimize memory card corruption? I have an 8GB microSD card and it seems to corrupt anytime I write files through the phone. I can take it out and use an adapter to load music and movies, but installing apps is usually the death of the card.
Sorry if I sound like a rookie, I have messed with RAZR flashing and game console soft-modding, but not much Windows Mobile experience.
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Ok, Android is out of the Question due to it's heavy reliance of data.
Is there a better Camera or video recording app than the one included? It takes decent photos, but the gallery is pokey. Video recording is lousy quality no matter what setting I put it on (hoping to get QVGA resolution at 15-25fps.)
If I want to use GPS, is TomTom or Garmin better? Which flash file is best for allowing use of GPS without Verizon navigator or some add-on service.
Also, is there any flash that helps to minimize memory card corruption? I have an 8GB microSD card and it seems to corrupt anytime I write files through the phone. I can take it out and use an adapter to load music and movies, but installing apps is usually the death of the card.
Sorry if I sound like a rookie, I have messed with RAZR flashing and game console soft-modding, but not much Windows Mobile experience.
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I am with you brother as VZW BLOWS!!! Unfortunately that is who my work plan & I don’t have a choice. I was going to buy a Touch Pro without a data plan but the pricks wouldn’t activate the phone without a data plan which I still fail to understand.
I believe that NFSFAN’s 6.5 ROM does have a slightly better camera & video camera option. It is the same software & only the registry settings are tweaked.
GPS is whole another issue & be prepared to do a lot of reading. Again you are going to want to use NFSFAN’s ROM for GPS. Just trust me on this one. GPS will work with the stock ROM but you will have to soft reset your phone every time you want to use it. These threads should help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4082403&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537360
I have not had any memory card issues. I take mine out & put it back in all the time. I could be just that you have a bad card. Some of the Kingston cards do have this issue.
Also note that flashing a custom ROM will void whatever warranty you may have.
I'm not too worried about the warranty, if I was I wouldn't be here!
Anyhow, sounds like I will get the best mileage out of flashing the NFSFAN WinMo 6.5 ROM and then activating the GPS ala instructions found on this forum and a wiki page I found while searching around.
I still need to read up a bit about the flashing process. I flashed a few RAZRs to play around, but they weren't activated and the process for WinMo is quite different.
For very cheap you can also get a usb bluetooth for your computer, then setup activesync via bluetooth, which will provide you pass-through internet over bluetooth while in range and connected to activesync via bluetooth. That means while in your home (generally in the same room) as a the bluetoothed computer, you will be able to use any internet services on the phone as well.
Is there a guide to setup passthrough internet via bluetooth with ActiveSync?
I already have bluetooth built into my laptop (it's a Macbook Pro, running Windows 7 for for ActiveSync and gaming) so essentially it would be free, but I don't want to accidentally go on Verizon's data (I am on the pay-per-MB plan because I signed up online and couldn't choose no data.)
blueblur1986 said:
I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.)
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If you're willing to come off of VZW, another possibility is PagePlus. It is prepaid and uses the VZW network. You can stay on it for as little as $4/mo.
As far as data... You can do pay as you go for data, OR, the service gives you free QNC (free slow data), but you have to figure out how to get your device to use QNC (14kbs). People have successfully used PP QNC with Treos, Moto Q's and HTC 6700's.
I believe there is an app that allows you to toggle data usage on your phone so you can avoid getting charged by accidentally using data. I believe it is linked in Codybear's FAQ and you may need a custom ROM for it to work.
blueblur1986 said:
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
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I am in the same situation! I purchased the phone 2 months ago and I just wanted a smartphone i.e. something to download programs on to that I don't have to pay for. I really like NFSFAN's winmo 6.5 ROM. The latest version is very good and I would consider flashing. Btw Stock config really sucks at least flash to something aesthetically pleasing!
EnterpriseNX01 said:
Btw Stock config really sucks at least flash to something aesthetically pleasing!
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You mean like Android? (No, android isn't flashable yet, but it can be booted from any GPS-enabled WM ROM.)
Android is good, I'm running it on my Vogue. I don't have a data plan either... and Android really makes you wish you had one.
A good program for WinMo for those without data plans is SmartTouch. It gathers all sorts of SMS services into one and does all the Google SMS stuff, Facebook, IM, Yellowpages, etc. I have unlimited texts and no data so when I was using WinMo I relied on that a lot.
You guys are gonna kill me, but I don't have texting either. I got to choose the phone and have no say over the plan. I have pay-per-text and pay-per-data. My plan is the standard $10 add-on line for FamilyShare 700min basic plan. We have 5 lines total, so we are pinching pennies hence no text or data.
On a side note, I seem to be having trouble finding a guide/sticky on how to flash NSFAN's 6.5 ROM and setup my phone after the upgrade to use it on Verizon (I know with RAZRs you had to do some crazy crap with reprogramming and Seem edits and such, which I never did get since I only flashed a de-activated phone.) I know it deals with something RUU or RRU or something. Any pointers are appreciated!
lotherius said:
For very cheap you can also get a usb bluetooth for your computer, then setup activesync via bluetooth, which will provide you pass-through internet over bluetooth while in range and connected to activesync via bluetooth. That means while in your home (generally in the same room) as a the bluetoothed computer, you will be able to use any internet services on the phone as well.
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how can i do this!? my phone only need bluetooth correct? because the sprint vogue "doesn't have" wifi
You need to buy a USB "Bluetooth Dongle" for your PC. This will allow your PC and phone to connect via the PAN (Personal Area Network) capabilites of the Bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth dongles are incredibly cheap thru Amazon. It is a little quirky to set up but works great.
Buy the dongle and install the drivers.
Install ActiveSync.
Turn on the your phones Bluetooth and make it visible.
Go to ActiveSync on your phone and under "menu" select "connect via bluetooth"
Now you may need help figuring out how to make it all connect, but do the above first... then ask questions if you are unable to get it to setup correctly.
I have this setup working flawlessly on my Samsung i760...
I will admit I am having trouble getting the Vogue to connect "flawlessly", but that is likely due to the "quirkiness" of this kind of connection.
HIYinOR said:
You need to buy a USB "Bluetooth Dongle" for your PC. This will allow your PC and phone to connect via the PAN (Personal Area Network) capabilites of the Bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth dongles are incredibly cheap thru Amazon. It is a little quirky to set up but works great.
Buy the dongle and install the drivers.
Install ActiveSync.
Turn on the your phones Bluetooth and make it visible.
Go to ActiveSync on your phone and under "menu" select "connect via bluetooth"
Now you may need help figuring out how to make it all connect, but do the above first... then ask questions if you are unable to get it to setup correctly.
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actually i dont have activesync i have mobile device center because i have windows vista [windows 7] they are both the same....could you help me to use it?
Hi, New here and have been trying to root and get my phone to wifi tether.
Ive read over many,many pages and like my user name suggest. I have become more confused. Im not very good when it comes to computers in fact the computer Im using for this is a 2003 with windows XP. A dinosour and not a strong one.
I have the unrevoked 3 on my the computer. I went through all the steps. And the unrevoked said waiting for root (can restart if this doesnt work) at this point it restarted it self.
So am I done with this part or did it not finish? Is there something I should see on my phone after. I'm lost. I really need this rooting and wifi tether.
Please someone help me.
Okay, Ive got it to go all the way through until it said it was done. Now what I still dont see any differance is there a place I should look to see this?
You can tell you are rooted by looking for the superuser app in your app pantry. Unrevoked should also have flashed clockwork recovery onto your phone. You will have to flash a rom to get tethering on your phone. I don't feel like typing out everything here, so come into the IRC sometime. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#liberatedAria
Okay I'm rooted now.
Do I have to install a file Manager now? I have a Wifi app. installed now I cant get it to work though. Am I missing something?
If I have to install a file manager which is the best?
pcidiot said:
Okay I'm rooted now.
Do I have to install a file Manager now? I have a Wifi app. installed now I cant get it to work though. Am I missing something?
If I have to install a file manager which is the best?
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Astro or Estrong
first thing you should do when you are rooted, is make a nandroid backup.
And then install the Free Wifi Tether app, or install the latest Liberated Froyo rom,
which has tethering over USB, and Wifi hotspot built in.
Have it all done. Thank you very much Anthony1s and the people at IRC. Very helpful and patient. Im pretty much new to computers and this phone stuff. He made it simple.
I have a few questions still. When the new latest ROM comes out is there a easy way to find it? Like a place to look ect.
When turning on Wifi tether I assume that it uses my megabytes from my phone plan even though the simbol on the top is not there when tethering. Am I right about this? Or is it free? Can At&t find out and give me a tethering charge?
All help has been greatly appericated. Thank you
You just check the official thread for the ROM you are following. If its one of attn1's - he updates is good about updating the first post.
As long as you aren't having any issues and are happy with the way everything is working, there isn't really a need to check for updates. Unless you're obsessive like me.
Currently AT&T does not check to see if you are tethering on your own accord, so at the moment - the built in tethering is free!
Yes, a little obsesive. Now more so because of being able to do this. I want the latest and best ROM. I'll admit I liked some of the original ROMs features and smoothness a little more, but all the extra stuff greatly out weighs this.
So, when I use the wifi tether connected to my laptop or another phone its not using any of my megabytes from my data or internet plan? It just seems to me that it would.
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Yes, a little obsesive. Now more so because of being able to do this. I want the latest and best ROM. I'll admit I liked some of the original ROMs features and smoothness a little more, but all the extra stuff greatly out weighs this.
So, when I use the wifi tether connected to my laptop or another phone its not using any of my megabytes from my data or internet plan? It just seems to me that it would.
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depends how you're keeping track of your data. I know some apps that track your usage - don't even see tethered traffic.
i would imagine that data use is kept at at&t's end so teathering would use data same as you surfing the net from the phone.
Well, let me tell you about only problem I have with my phone. After applying the GingerBlur 4.5 using this instructions from this forums, I had some troubles with my phone, and by the way, here is some information about my Atrix:
System version:
Version.4.1.83.MB860.ATT.en.US (After applying the GingerBlur, I don't know before)
Model number:
MB860
Android version:
2.2.2
Baseband version:
N_01.77.07P
Motorola webtop version:
OSHWT_U1_6.71.0
Rooted:
True
And I suppose you should know something about my geographic location:
Country:
El Salvador
Carrier:
Claro El Salvador
Now here comes my story, when I applied the GingerBlur to my phone, it was rebooting and blinking its led in a red intense, so I knew there was some problem, after that, I did a hard reset and the phone worked again, but, it was not quite a hard reset, it still says GingerBlur when it starts, but after a few reboots, it worked! I was kind of happy because all the good stuff the ROM left, BUT, there is a really big problem...
My phone had originally an option to tether in the wireless settings, and it was WONDERFUL, why? you might say, well, it allowed me to create an infrastructure WiFi hotspot! It was amazing, simple and elegant, and now, it is gone.. I mean, most tether programs allow you to create AdHoc WiFi hotspots, but this one allowed me to connect everything to it.
So, now I am trying to get it back, and that is where you, wonderful guys, get into the story, I have thought some options:
1. Getting back to my stock Android 2.2.2, but for real this time. The thing is, I don't know how to do it. I suppose I need my carrier's ROM but I haven't found it.
2. Getting Android 2.3, the real one, but, I don't know if I'll have problems with my carrier, and most important, with my phone.
3. Getting the program from another phone, because, I have another two at my disposal, so I can get the files form there, but as you might know, I don't know how. And in fact I have already copied the files to my phone but nothing happens.
4. Getting a software as good as that and install it in my android, but I haven't found any, I actually have WiFi Tether from Google Code, but I am missing the option to make it work in infrastructure.
So, with all your experience, what should I do?
If you wanna usb tether. Use pdanet app it uses ur phones data plan. I have been using it for quite a while. And if u have a macbook or imac you can create a wifi hotspot
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
thanks but I really needed the infrastructure option and a dear and special friend exchange her stock atrix for my modified one, now I got that feature back.
(^_^)
I am running Netflix version 3.9.1 build 4105 and Android 4.4.2.
When I open Netflix the program just sits and spins and spins then gives me a "Sorry we could not reach Netflix Service. Please try again later (-9)". Then I clear app data and after I do that and relaunch then I get the extremely common 15001 error (that is impossible to actually troubleshoot..).
I have read multiple people having issues with Netflix, but that was when they released a patch that broke it and I am pretty sure that isn't a common problem anymore. I have one of the apps that show network activity and all I get is random hits of like 20-30 KB/s max while trying to launch Netflix. I have tried this on two completely different networks, so I don't think it has anything to do with my network.
My device is rooted with TWRP installed, but I don't see how this could have any affect on Netflix (it never did on my old rooted Nexus 7 running Cyanogen Mod).
Is there something I can try that maybe I haven't heard yet? I even tried clearing the Google Services Framework cache/data (as this helped people in the past) and that changed nothing above. Not being able to use Netflix is a huge problem for me and I am hoping someone has run into this on our devices. I imagine Netflix is one of the most common Apps used.
Thanks for any help or ideas anyone can provide. If I need to I'll restore the tablet with Fastboot, but there is no guarantee that will work and an obvious pain if it doesn't.
Edit: Read the latest comments on Netflix and it seems there are still plenty of people having problems just like mine. I guess I may be waiting for a new version to release??
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I am running Netflix version 3.9.1 build 4105 and Android 4.4.2.
When I open Netflix the program just sits and spins and spins then gives me a "Sorry we could not reach Netflix Service. Please try again later (-9)". Then I clear app data and after I do that and relaunch then I get the extremely common 15001 error (that is impossible to actually troubleshoot..).
I have read multiple people having issues with Netflix, but that was when they released a patch that broke it and I am pretty sure that isn't a common problem anymore. I have one of the apps that show network activity and all I get is random hits of like 20-30 KB/s max while trying to launch Netflix. I have tried this on two completely different networks, so I don't think it has anything to do with my network.
My device is rooted with TWRP installed, but I don't see how this could have any affect on Netflix (it never did on my old rooted Nexus 7 running Cyanogen Mod).
Is there something I can try that maybe I haven't heard yet? I even tried clearing the Google Services Framework cache/data (as this helped people in the past) and that changed nothing above. Not being able to use Netflix is a huge problem for me and I am hoping someone has run into this on our devices. I imagine Netflix is one of the most common Apps used.
Thanks for any help or ideas anyone can provide. If I need to I'll restore the tablet with Fastboot, but there is no guarantee that will work and an obvious pain if it doesn't.
Edit: Read the latest comments on Netflix and it seems there are still plenty of people having problems just like mine. I guess I may be waiting for a new version to release??
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I have the exact same problem! No matter what it's the same error, restoring the tablet doesn't work either.
Screw Netflix, use TV portal! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzI_9bXSPgLUX0kwVV8wd3lsTGM/view
When you grab a movie with TV portal, then use Tubemate to download mp4 quality movies of your choice. (touch the green arrow above to get the download interface)
http://www.androidfreeware.net/download-youtube-tubemate.html
I don't think anyone has problems these days ripping off movies, however streaming thousands of movies and TV shows is more convenient by a mile (especially on a tablet).
That is indeed one reason Google & apple push to get rid of the power of personal storage and force the cloud.
When Netflix won't work when you finally settle for a movie, it's nice to have options.
The measly amount Netflix charges is worth it, they have a good service....
But as you know, traveling you are forced to use sporadic data on the road that cost. Until they fix that, I want my storage.
Thank you for starting this thread driving me nuts today! Thought I was alone. It's my son's tablet and Netflix is one of his major uses for it. Tried so many fixes and none are working. Guess we'll keep an eye out for an update.
Also, anyone have trouble with Netflix in general? I had to install an xposed mod just to get it to run!?!
Edit: I tried a much older version of Netflix and it's working perfectly: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netflix-inc/netflix/netflix-3-2-0-build-1340-apk/
I then updated the app again and it refused to load at all. Rolled back and turned off auto updates.
How do you turn off auto updates for a single program? I know how to turn it off completely, but is there a way to do it just for Netflix? It's not like we can deny it network connection..
Also does anyone know the last Netflix version that did work? I think it was around December 2014.
I can also confirm that Netflix 3.2.0 build 1340 does work.
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How do you turn off auto updates for a single program? I know how to turn it off completely, but is there a way to do it just for Netflix? It's not like we can deny it network connection..
Also does anyone know the last Netflix version that did work? I think it was around December 2014.
I can also confirm that Netflix 3.2.0 build 1340 does work.
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Go to Netflix in the play store then hit the three buttons in the top right and the option to disable auto updates should be there.
Never got around to testing other builds as that on works fine for my kid.
I believe the reason behind new versions beyond 3.7.1 not working is because of below;
"As of version 3.7.2, Netflix has begun using Forced Google DNS lookup for their Android app. This means that the Netflix app bypasses any DNS servers you setup on the Android device or on the router and uses Google DNS instead.
Traditionally we were able to block Google DNS lookups on the router and force Netflix to use alternative DNS. However, the Android app seems to not work at all if Google DNS is blocked."
In any case I can confirm that version 3.7.1 build 1711 does work as it should.
Also as recommended earlier you have to stop the app prom auto updating.
Hope that helps.
I have an unlocked AT&T 1337 Samsung S4 and am using it on the T-Mobile Network. I am fine with it as it is an old phone and such but my biggest issue is i Need to somehow Enable WiFi Tethering. My previous Phone was a S3 from T-mobile and that was no trick to get it rooted and all i wanted within a week of owning it. I haven't had time lately to do what i want with my current phone. (no pitty party but my father just died and i cant be bothered with much) and i need to get tethering working if at all possible. I also am moving Very soon (a couple days more than 2 weeks to another state any I'll be flying although i will need to get tethering before that I need it to get data access on my tablet.)
So No pity party from me, I just ask if anyone knows at least some links to set me on my way without having to use google and try to do it right as i need this phone and cannot make any errors.
Lastly my phone is unlocked (that doesn't matter) because when i try to tether it says "wrong sim network" or something i can post exact if it matters in a reply. I believe it must be rooted unless their is an app i don't know about. I have always gotten great responses here but I have never asked the feed me information question. Sadly this pc is comming down very soon and i only have much time for craigs list (selling 80% of what i own)
I TYIA for links to current informational posts about what i need to do. ill be looking myself too (and have been just hoping what i found is the right information. I was going to follow a guide like this if not this one
http://www.androidblog.gs/how-to-root-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-on-android-4-4-4-kitkat-firmware/
Please tell me if the above link will help me succeed or brink my only phone right now.
I've rooted and installed new roms, even used Odin to clean all the stuff off my S3 but that was a different ballgame, it was a t mobile phone on t mobile and it was a simple flash.
Again TIA
I have the same unlocked phone on the same network. This is what I did to get it to work.
1. Root phone
2. Used titanium backup to freeze the "app" called "TetheringAutomation 1.0.1". I assume there are other apps that could do the same.
Prior to that the tethering process would just crash. The same is true for my wife's Galaxy S5 which is not rooted and cannot tether. I haven't used it much, mind you, but I have noticed that sometimes I have to try to turn on the tethering 2-3 times before it will stay on but then it works fine.
Here is the guide I used to root the phone (you don't have to install the xposed framework if you don't want or need it):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/guide-att-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-t3383078
Sorry about your father.