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So im looking on buying a x10 but im what you´ll call a technology challenged person..........so yeah questions:
Is the bootloader unlocked?(i have the htcHERO presently so custom roms are nice)
How bad is lack of multi-touch?
How is the screen´s responsiveness?
It probably will be harder to port other phone roms since this is manefactured by S.E.(assuming the bootloader is unlocked of course.)
i need a new phone so my options are (spain)
htcLEGEND but its not much different from the HERO so i really dont want it, the SamsungWave but i would chose android over bada if given the chance(would it be possible to port android to it seeing how the GalaxyS is so similar?) or the x10.
Also, no i cant buy the NexusOne from vodafone
Salutations.
Using the Xperia X10 as a phone, well its good besides the low headset volume. Other wise it is a good device. With the latest updates you'll get good battery life and performance. Emails, messaging, web surfing, media its all good. Listening to calls is kinda of an issue, well for me.
Multi touch is a concern if you LOVE pinch and zoom and if youll be doing serious gaming. Other wise it is not an issue. Get JustPictures it has one pinch zoom with is more practical.
Screen is good, but now its only at 65k, 16 millions is on the way.
Finally to be honest Iam not sure about the bootloader. Some say its hacked others say its not, but theres some cyanogen mod thread in the developments part of the forum. So something is coming up for sure.
1. Nope, not yet.
2. Bad if you play games, doesn't matter if you don't.
3. Good
4. When bootloader will be unlocked it will have custom ROMs. Maybe not from other phones but will have.
Thanks for the reply/s but what about the Samsungwave? I tried it today and the screen is amazing and the BadaOs seemed like a custom skin of Android ala SENSE, of course it dosent have android apps nor customization but I love the phone's specs if you could put android there it would be the greatest phone in terms of software/hardware/price but I'm sure this has been said.(I can't buy the galaxyS cuz its on Movistar these guys are real pricks)
Im really desperate right now gotta buy it in like 2 days max. What should i do?
The x10 has the bigger screen and android the wave tops it in everything but has the BADAos which besides having a retarded name is ugly.I dont know which to pick if i could put android in the wave i would buy it but its not clear if android can be ported to it.
Please help this post has over 200 viewers but only 2 comments.
You want the best phone today? Then choose Samsung Galaxy S...
The design matters to you? Then take the X10
Samsung Wave it's a no for me.. The screen is too small and there are not too many third-party apps available (for sure not as many as we have for Android).
i need one with a contract that isnt from movistar(i think its the equivalent to o2 in the uk) those bastards have the galaxy since july 1st, its the same thing they did with the iphone only they had it for like 2 years cuz there service sucks they need to buy exclusive rights so only they can sale it
Regarding Colour...
Hey!
Since X10 has 65K colours, after we get the 2.1/2.2 upgrade, the phone will have 16M colours?
So, just to confirm, the hardware (display screen) is capable to get 16M colours?
Right now, due to 1.6 OS, the OS limits the colours to 65K?
If you know what a bootloader is you are not technologically challenged .
I haven't played with a wave but considering your options i would go with the x10. Android is proven, it looks beautiful and custom roms are on the way. The only downside is no mt right now (if you play games).
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You'll never get android on the Wave.. so go for the X10.. it really is a great bit of kit.
I dont really play games aside from some party games (drinking,dares) a friend lended me his x10 today to root and instal the setCPU app(knowing to do this is easy and does not require to much technology knowledge ) and i played a few hours with the x10 i really liked the design and the big screen although the responsivness seemd a bit off sometimes (i didnt get to play with it after i installed the latest firmware so maybe this changed)
also is there something preventing porting android to the Wave?(aside from hardwork)
I dont really play games aside from some party games (drinking,dares) a friend lended me his x10 today to root and instal the setCPU app(knowing to do this is easy and does not require to much technology knowledge ) and i played a few hours with the x10 i really liked the design and the big screen although the responsivness seemd a bit off sometimes (i didnt get to play with it after i installed the latest firmware so maybe this changed)
also is there something preventing porting android to the Wave?(aside from hardwork)
I dont know what happned but it double posted im very sorry.
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How bad is lack of multi-touch?
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The lack of multi-touch is insane. What on earth were SE thinking. I need to have as many fingers on my phone as possible at any given moment. In fact I prefer to dial numbers by hitting every number at exactly the same time, and just hoping they end up in the right order.
no but seriously, there was a time before multi-touch, just like there was a time before touchscreens.
Personally my biggest gripe with the x10 is that it wasn't made by Apple, but thankfully I have the x10i, which still have the 'i' in it, so I can sleep at night...
that cracked me up.i just got the x10 furtunately mines also the x10i
I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things
I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.
Is it worth it?
My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x
I say go for it 4 sure. If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 It's totally worth it!
everyday phone? Oh yeah! It works great!
Don't listen to that guy talking about dual core. You don't need it on a phone!! seriously, WHY would you need dual core? Everything i've tried on my play works like a charm!
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My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x
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Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.
Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!
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Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.
Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!
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that was exactly what i meant haaha +1
^^^ I'm being sarcastic in my last post, in case the OP didn't catch that.
I'm very happy with my Play as a gaming phone and everyday phone. My wife has a Droid 3, and there isn't much difference at all, if any, in app performance and daily phone use. I have much better battery life as well. She has a better camera Maybe eventually apps will start taking advantage of multiple cores, but it's going to be a while.
You can't play this game on a touch screen very well...
Yourmama said:
I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things
I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.
Is it worth it?
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It is very simple. How much do you value playing both Android-native and emulated games against the rest of features in a phone? If you really want to play games in a phone, this is your device.
If you don't value playing games over dual core CPUs, slick designs, gorgeous screens and feature-rich cameras, you're not the target for this device. It has a very specific niche, which Sony Ericsson has spent millions in digging out. It's a love-it-or-hate-it product, with little middle ground.
Oh, and it has an astonishingly precise GPS.
There are bad points about this phone but show me a perfect phone.
The best 2 things about this phone are obviously the control pad for 1 and the battery life, which has amazed me so far.
The only thing that I find annoying is the lack of decent games taking advantage of what is a great phone.
But I have to say I have started using emulators and they are quality, n64oid and fpse especially.
So to sum up its a great mix up between a gaming device and a smart phone. It is let down on the development side.
It all just depends on what you want if you like gaming I dont think you will be let down in purchasing this phone
Thats my two pennies anyway
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I have an xperia play and a few of my mates have dual core phones (SGS2, Optimus x2 e.t.c). I would not swap the Xplay for any of them.
As hairdewx has shown if you plan on playing anything with FPSE or emulators it is pointless on anything other than an xplay. The emulators alones let you play thousands of games with proper controls (makes it a 1000x better)
The speakers are the best on any phone. And the battery life is amazing to say this is a gaming device. Just using it as a normal phone it is as good as the rest.
I would recommend you get this phone. I think it will be hard for me to upgrade to a newer phone @ the end of my contract, unless it has proper gaming controls . (Xplay 2 hopefully)
Thanks guys I don't know I just might get it the only setback was the lack of an HD screen and the core issue but seems that the people who have the phone are enjoying it, I will see
Just wanted to give a perspective from someone who just bought the phone yesterday.
Waiting in the Verizon store I got the chance to mess with a few other phones. I actually played a couple games on some as well and just took an overall look. So to start lets forget the coolness of the control pad, and also that IMO playing games with motion/touch controls aside from something designed for it like Angry Birds absolutely sucks. Its why I seriously have not been into mobile gaming until now and I'm a big gamer. Just can't stand those controls.
Most of these new 4G dual core phones are huge. Seriously I was playing with one of the new 4G phones and the damn thing was like a doormat it was so big. Meanwhile the Xperia Play dimensionally is almost identical to my OG Droid, but space wise is designed better so that the 4" screen pushes to almost the edges of the device which uses space very well. Fits in my pocket WAY better than those 4G devices with a screen thats only 0.3" smaller.
Next up is speed. The OS is just as responsive on the Play as any of the 4G devices, I'm honestly not sure how much a dual core processor can help on a cellphone especially for normal every day tasks, with an OS that while multitasking, is not like a PC where you can physically have 2+ windows on screen at once. The way Android prioritizes memory, if you are using multiple apps at once, I just don't see there being a possibility of an everyday advantage. Needless to say, touch them side by side, there is NO difference in speed. Which brings me to games. I played a couple on the newer devices, they looked and played the same as on the Play, no faster, no better graphics, no nothing.
Finally would be features, ok so the camera is ok but not as good, 4G where available, is REALLY fast so thats nice as well and if you're in an area its common, and you have a need for that kind of speed, well then its something you should consider. And HDMI out, not on the Play. I personally have no use for it but if you do then theres another loss. So this comes to opinion - IMO the camera is good enough, it does the job, its a cell phone not a Canon. 4G? I live in the NY metro area basically where 4G service should be mostly available but its spotty, meanwhile WiFi is everywhere, and everywhere I'd sit and use it I have WiFi (my home, my folks house, my firehouse etc), when I travel I book hotels that have free WiFi, also my ISP provides open WiFi in many areas. Also I have no shame I use peoples open WiFi signals if I have to, so honestly I don't miss the speed there. 3G really isn't THAT bad either, however its a compromise, and I'm sure outside of this area it could be a problem for some. Then HDMI out, I bet I'd try it out for a novelty but I'd probably never use it. I have a PS3, I watch movies on my big screen from that or my PC with HDMI out.
And 2 things I've said above become an advantage for the Play, no 4G and no Dual core = better battery life.
So all in all I don't for a second regret the purchase, you get 95% of the performance of a 4G phone, with the advantage of better battery life, and the completely awesome built in control pad. If you want to game, its a no brainer.
When I saw the title of the thread I opened it to give my opinion about this phone. But when I read the previous answers, all that I wanted to say had already been said, so I gave up writing a big text because I don't have anything new to say!
Then I'll only say that it's an awesome phone, buy it without any fear, you won't regret it.
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If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 It's totally worth it!
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WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts
It is my favorite device. I just put in 2 hours of Beyond the Beyond without any awful on screen controls or bluetooth shenanigans.
Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.
The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.
If you enjoy games more than just casually and really enjoy emulation, there is no other real option IMHO.
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WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts
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N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly
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Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.
The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.
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K Sound Agreed, Battery however i would like to know what miracle device you are using to keep it powered cause even with the 2.3.3 update which i wont le improved battery life significantly, i dont find its able to keep up with the demand especially noticable when streaming data i.e. skyFM or TuneInRadio(awsome app by the way for a phone with no FM reciever any radio station you could imagine....from all 7 contenent...yes there is a sat radio station based in antarctica for the 12 people that are ever there at one time, sheesh im Canadian and i say no thanks to that lol sorry off topic tired and ranting), and camera is decent quality 5.0mp front is only1.2 so self portraits are a little grainy i find, but none the less i have to agreee it could use more features to the actual cam its self
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N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly
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didnt know N64oid v2 was out thanks!, and as for the ps one emu i think i might just steal whatever games they release seeing as i pretty much bought a psone in a phone seems a little redundant to download a program on top of that....just cant wait to see if they find a way to release FFVII and VIII to the phone
Just get an android phone you like
to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)
Anyone interested
found a decent site on app creation for android....vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
sorry bout not making it a link apparently i havent posted enough for our Naziesq forum rules
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to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)
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Haven't you pissed on this guy's thread enough? Then you come into a forum with people who are obvious playstation and Sony fans and say the Xbox360 "wins in every department" which is so untrue its not even funny but I'm not getting into that flame war here.
You don't seem to like the phone much, and you don't seem to like PS much, door is to the left, go buy another phone then.
hello . first i greeting the stuff of xda they realy make great efforts
i need help i will buy this phone and need information about it
is it good
i know it realy small & i love it design but is it gaming well?
what about speed?
overclocking ?
and the final this phone or wildfire s?
thank u
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If you want a gaming phone. This is not a phone for you! Starting with hardware then with software the Moto FlipOut is a low end Android device in my opinion. My Girlfriend bought it on Christmas and she ended up using my iPhone4(that got replaced with a MT4G) If you are looking for a good android phone for gaming look for one that has at least 1Ghz processor and a GPU chip Like Samsung Galaxy S line or HTC latest devices. Also if you can afford a dual core phone go for it!
edit: If you really need to choose one of these two phones (Flipout or Wildfire S) I'd say go with the HTC .
i wouldn't say that Flipout is such a low end.. it has 512MB RAM and processor with frequency scalable up to 1,2GHz (1GHz stable) .. so actually it's not that bad. however.. games are practically unplayable due to it's display size and resolution. the display is simply too small for that. if you wanna play games, buy something with 4,3" display, dual-core, tegra-based at best
I haven't had any other android phone, so I can't compare, but first thing I want to say is that this phone sucks. Stuck at 2.1, several bugs in the ROM, crashes from time to time, and the battery for me lasts ~24 hours on moderate use. On heavy use it stops working just when you need it (for example, you used a tracker to map where you're going in a foreign city, and now you want to go back to your car)
But, you get use to these. So sometimes, when you try to call 911, your phone crashes in the middle (happened to me...), or when you hang up a call. And the accelerometer is somehow twisted so very few of the balancing games work.
But, I don't agree with not being able to play. Things like angry birds or moon chaser work very nicely. As does the NES emulator. So, slow not too hectic games work very nicely.
And the form factor is amazing. It is really nice to have the phone in your pocket, and to have to look for it, because you can't tell in which pocket it is.
That's why I still have it - I really love it. I don't see any other phone that will be as convenient.
I bet you're wish you hadn't asked
thank u all friends but at all i bought it i didnt have money for glaxsy -s
but my friends i see post in this section say that they able to play angry bird & Guerrilla Bob & novo this games is high
Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Wow, you're just spoiling for a fight. Perhaps you'd find one if your post made sense?
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It make plenty sense buddy I've just grown up and gotten tired of the slow laggy unresponsive way behind the times that is the xperia play. Maybe you should wake up also. And to the people who are hoping, wishing, dying for an xperia play 2, you really need to give your head a shake and snap out of that dream your locked into cause it won't happen
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Exactly the opposite for me... but then again my experience with the Xperia Play hasn't really left a lot to be desired.
First of all, there's a bit of irony here that kinda makes me grin... and it's that you're a huge part of the reason I've been getting nothing but flawless performance out of my Xperia Play. Do you remember being the creator of this topic? All since you posted that, I've been using, re-using and referring people to that particular ROM because it gave me level of consistent smooth function that can be described as nothing less than 'perfect'. Sure it's not Ice Cream Sandwich, Jelly Bean or whichever bundle of already-existing abilities that people decide to call new for whichever fad update people go wild over... but since these android updates are generally repackaged abilities that any owner of >2.1 Android can get, there's not much reason for me to sacrifice the polished stability of my GB build for anything else. Don't need to upgrade to ICS/JB for notification toggles, because we can already get something that includes far more customization than anything ICS/JB's stock options offer (LINK). Don't need JB's Project Butter because the performance was already silky smooth... we can the look of ICS/JB (LINK), we can get the data monitoring/data management of ICS/JB (LINK), the camera (LINK) and gallery (LINK) of ICS/JB, and even the power management (LINK)... all without ICS/JB.
The idea that this phone *died* because of slow-ness, lag or unresponsiveness always sounds odd to me because my Xperia Play hasn't really ever been slow or unresponsive. Like you though, I was always open to the idea of something better... which is why I reached out to more powerful phones like the Atrix, Evo 3D and Galaxy S3 - thinking that a paired PS3 controller or MOGA would give me a superior experience. Know what happened? The Atrix pretty much self-destructed, the Evo 3D's gaming worth ended up being a trainwreck with loads of games sacrificed the moment it was upgraded to ICS and the situation for GS3 gaming ended up being a frustrating mess. First off, having to pair the MOGA to it alone turns what should be quick and seamless into a chore - and that holds true regardless of whether we go through the MOGA App itself or the "alleged" universal IME. If the quotation didn't make it clear, there's a lot about the universal IME I dislike.
On paper, that should be the clear-cut killer app that totally makes the Xperia Play obsolete... yet it does everything but. It'll make the MOGA ideal for emulators, but by far and large - the appeal of the Xperia Play has been that it's so good at present-generation gaming that it doesn't need to piggyback yester-decade's antiquated games. Not only is the universal IME a ***** to set up, but there's so much sacrificed when trying to pretend the MOGA+uIME replaces Xperia Play. The lack of a d-pad automatically compromises it's practicality for many games where analog locomotion feels weird, and if we want the MOGA Controller that does have a d-pad, we'd be sacrificing portability even more than the existing MOGA (which is easily the bulk of two Xperia Plays even before a phone is put into it)... but for the sake of getting into just how horribly off it is to say MOGA > Xperia Play, let's pretend it isn't automatically on a lower level because of it's cumbersomeness.
Just as an example, let's cite Eternal Legacy. Eternal Legacy is natively a touch-only game that got a special edition for Xperia Play that makes it completely optimized... and by complete; I mean the physical gamepad can be used to manipulate the entire game from menu navigation, map navigation and combat. While it would seem like an RPG should be okay for a touch-screen, having physical controls is still much more precise and much faster way to perform multi-menu operations... so a gamepad is definitely the superior option. First of all, finding a working version of the damn game for the GS3 is annoying in itself... and since it was only truly prime with Xperia Play's gamepad, we have to resort to the only half-ass usable MOGA+uIME+GameKeyboard (or JC6) combination which requires tons of setup, and outputs an experience that's only half-workable (it really only works for field navigation... nothing else). We can plug any phone of any specs into that equation and get the same result, and plug many different games into that equation to also find games in high masses that are only half-playable.
If you see where this is going, you see that I just stepped up to the most well-known of the "steroid phones" and actually ended up making sacrifices... and for what? Fluidity? My Xperia Play experience has already been smooth... and on a stock ROM. We could revive the note that I'm a heavy supporter of GameKeyboard (which also delivers the same sense of half-playability to native touch games)... but Xperia Play's already got over 450 Android titles stacked under it's belt with the count still growing... so it's not only the most heavily supported physical gaming solution, but it's software support is very much so alive... and as the person who's taken on the tooth-gritting (often overwhelming) task of databasing Xperia Play's software releases, I can say from a very strong stance that it's support hasn't faltered.
From here, we could cite the Xperia Play's low internal memory... and to that I'd note how that's become a non-issue with MiniTool Partition and Link2SD. With that combination, I've amassed over 340 installs and I still have 85.4% of my phone storage free.
From here, we could note that Xperia Play's only rocking half a gig of RAM and a single-core processor with it's only real saving grace being an (outdated) Adreno GPU... yet we can have our minds blown as we see beefier phones like the Atrix struggling to run N.O.V.A. 3 as well as the Xperia Play does.
Of course there's stronger phones out there, but I've already got the prime for gaming. MOGA's doing quite well in it's own right and I love to see it getting out of the "only good for emulating old-ass games" category that so many other BT controllers tend to quickly fall into... but it doesn't compare to or replace the Xperia Play at all.
Another thing worth mentioning is just how far it's evolved. Look at any of the old reviews for Xperia Play, and we find that a lot of the original complaints aren't even valid anymore. It records in HD now, the prior complaints of auto-dimming have been handled, and while everyone loved to complain about the lack of integration into Sony's official gaming ecosystem - look at how quiet they've become now that it's been resolved.
Honestly, what puzzles me is exactly what one would be doing to get their Xperia Play to a point of being sluggish, slow or unresponsive. When people see my videos, I'm consistently bombarded with questions about what magic tweaks/kernels/whatnot I used to get my Xperia Play so smooth... and the answer's always the same... nothing. It's a simple stock ROM that I debloated through Root Explorer, paired with a carefully-chosen launcher that's optimal for fluidity and battery life... and it's been VERY smooth, fast and responsive.
Xperia Play's definitely not in the limelight, nor is it burning up the media... and from that it's easy to perceive that the Xperia Play's dead, but for anyone in the know... it's software support and fanbase are still stronger than any other physical gaming medium in the entire world of smartphones. This is why all my stronger phones have been sold or given away so that I can go back to my Xperia Play. No point in having a dual/quad core with as much memory as a desktop computer when my phone's already eating up any software I throw at it with ease.
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Woww.. Just woww..
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Sdojoin
It's the best gaming phone and multiple-use device by far.
I've recently upgraded to an HTC One X for my daily use phone because it's faster for everyday tasks, but I keep my Xperia Play close by at all times, switching sims if necessary, because it's just so good for gaming.
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I would Luke to add to TL's comment that I too have had the chance to play with (for about 2 days each) a GS3 and an HTC one x and yes they are sweet devices in their own right. But when push came to shove I bought a unlocked xperia play r800at. And have absolutely no regrets. Especially now that I am on or will be in three weeks a GSM phone, all these choices of roms. I've had a pre opus phone two years ago where I used a gamepad overlay for the phone hardware keyboard and sold it on a heartbeat to buy the Verizon xperia play. There too.... no regrets, except thy it's CDMA. But that's a other story. All in all I feel the play is the best multipurpose phone/gaming device out there. Yes its hardware is dated but that hasn't stopped of from still getting game dev love. And lets not even talk about the thousands of roms for emulators. Especially if you have the emus that have been modded to show up in the game launcher.
On a side note. TL what launcher you use on your phone ? I use an older version of go launcher before it became memory hungry. And my phone is super smooth and fast.
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How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
To each their own...
It all come's down to personal preference. I prefer Android gaming on my Galaxy Nexus or Kyros tablet with a Dualshock 3 and the Sixaxis app, but that doesn't mean i don't like my R800x or that the phone has some sort of "problem" or considered "DEAD". In fact I never had a problem with my R800x and it run's like a champ. There's ton's of great game's that are xp optimized, plenty of custom ROM's, and some awesome theme's. My son love's it and use's it all the time.
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How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
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This is so true
My xplay is a saviour in all the clothes shops or waiting outside a dressing room as she takes about a hour in on shop it crazy
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Whenever someone say this should go to the HD2 forum and say it to get flamed.
Also my brother have an iPhone5, but I got an R800 for him and the first he said was: COOL!
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I feel like I should get rid of it, but then I just can't. I love this phone.
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TLR owned the OP sooooo bad.
I agree to every word he says.
+1 to you TLR.
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. I can vouch for this and it's actually the reason my brother got rid of it once his contract expired. You shouldn't have to modify or custom install anything for your device to run smooth. Sure, stock GB is good, but it is not perfect or flawless like some are claiming. The PLAY is a fun and enjoyable gaming device, but its performance is not superb, it's tolerable. I do not think TLR's or some of these other guys' opinions are applicable to 100% Pure stock Xperia PLAY. One thing that pissed me off when I was pure stock was the internal memory running out. Come on guys and/or gals, stop practicing fanboyism and call a spade a spade.
In regards to the OP saying they're looking for something better. If you still wanna give Sony a second chance, check out the Xperia Z. It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
Well said TLR and ozzmanj1
Without repeating the flawless statements they have already made , :good: to you guys, right on point!
Is the Xperia Play dead? Do XPlay owners need to grow up and move on? No and No, Im 26 and just got an R800at , ditching Verizon and went to Tmobile. I never found my Play to be slow , sluggish or un responsive. Im running a rooted stock debloated rom with holo launcher and I couldn't be happier, it does everything I need and then some (still to this day) and if were ever in discussion about "you have to root and debloat the XPLay to use it" I honestly root and debloat every android device I own, my entire family uses Droid branded androids and I rooted/debloated all of those as well. Rooted = Liberated !
The developer community here is strong, their are some great minds working on stuff for this device still. Cheers to all of them !
I just also built my 20yr old sister an XPlay and she loves it, she took it over the SG3 for the pure gaming factor (smart choice, especially since SG4 is in the works you would be a fool to buy a SG3 now, and of course I built it for her for free) and I even built one for my 7yr old nephew one, I of course removed and possibilities to make phone calls or text and its not in service, he is just gaming away on it. Hands down, the Xperia Play is a great device and I for one and damn happily to own / use it.
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Whilst I'm not disagreeing with you (the xperia play is not a great phone in stock form, too much bloatware, Sony's stupid habit of low storage on every phone etc) I have to say that it does come into its own when modded, even just rooted. The thing is that most phones feel redundant after 6 months or so now and it seems to be a trend. Apple know it, which is why they release an iPhone every 6 month's. The difference is that some people with buy the new, others will mod the old and make it new again. When I had my iPhone 3g years back it was made redundant early on but after jailbreaking it did multitasking, background wallpapers, folders, everything apple said it couldn't!
The thing is that this is xda developers and the main use for this forum is modifying their phones so if someone criticises then it is obvious that other people will tell them to mod.
Talking of criticism, I have been on this forum for years modding various phones, but have never seen so many people criticising a single handset as they do the XP. It's such a shame as for me it is what I have wanted for so long, something that my N-Gage years ago never managed!!
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well, my first dissapointment was Gameloft games. Standard GL games like 9mm and shadow guardian run on low graphic while galaxy s get the normal version.
I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I couldn't agree with this more ! :good:
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. .... It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
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You are comparing a 2 years old phone, one with single core old CPU technology against a newer gen quadcore device with highend GPU and 5 times the amount of ram.
Hi All,
So I'm going to speak about my Story in Smartphone and all my disappointments about the Sony Xperia Z. I was a Iphone User since the first one. I bought the Iphone 1 , 3G , 4 , 4S and my last one the 5. After reading a lot about Android, I decided to change and find a good phone on Android. So at this time XZ was the best with Quad Core Processor and 2 Go of Ram. I was sure that the phone will be incredibly fast! I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 before and even with Cynogen Mod it was horrible!!
So I bought my xperia Z, I was very Happy about Android, lot a personalization, beautiful etc until I see the real performance of the device....
I had a Micro-lag each time I'm scrolling between desktop with the base launcher xperia... Impossible I tought.. and no really it was micro-lag... So I decided to try Nova launcher and now hoo a little better but each time after unlocking the phone a microlag appear again when scrolling..
So After try a lot of launcher and same problem on each launcher except one! TSF Shell was the only fluid launcher... And it's the one with the 3D animations.. Weird....
So I was a little more happy but after that I decided to check performance in games.. So I install Real Racing 3 and hoo working fine but no fast as my Ipad Mini who are supposed to more 2x less powerfull... and the graphic was better too on ipad mini.. and the FPS was not good at all.
Then I tried Asphalt 7 Heat , and same problems... not perfectly fluid , I'm sure I have max 40FPS..... and the graphics are far from the quality of my ipad..
When I play 10 min the phone beginning to heat heat heat until 42 ° ... The Heat control service launch his process and powerdown the CPU... Great!!!
So I like Android.. It's a great OS , I liked it. I didn't want to change but those points disappoint me a lot... Why the base launcher is not running well? I don't even see the difference of performance between the old Galaxy Tab 2 and the XZ... and then why it's the most ressources launcher who are the most fluid one?
The Last thing is the MediaServer, it's running all the time and feed with half of my battery and I don't even know why... probably indexing media but it's everyday and when I check the CPU during the running of this process it's even more than 10% so why the battery is used so much?
Thanks a lot all for your help and excuse my poor bad english
You can deactivate certain applications like your app that are running medias.
And if you decide if a phone is good or not only for homescreen lag (iOS even hasn't one) or heat performance playing games why did you choose Android?
Oh and i'm sorry for the heat control service that powerdowns your cpu saving it.
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You can deactivate certain applications like your app that are running medias.
And if you decide if a phone is good or not only for homescreen lag (iOS even hasn't one) or heat performance playing games why did you choose Android?
Oh and i'm sorry for the heat control service that powerdowns your cpu saving it.
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If you read everything I didn't juge android cause of that. I put a lot of Argument.
And then so you tell me that Scrolling between desktop is laggy on all android devices? and u said also that all android device heat? That's wierd
Ah, yet another repetitive thread that should have been in the troubleshooting section with all the other same threads.
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Nope, just sony having problems with no smooth launchers (every xperia i had)
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Sad to hear that you are experiencing poor problems with your device.
But first and foremost, do not compare the performance in gaming with the Idevices, because the way the games are made is often very different per platform. A lot of these games are made with idevice in mind, so the developers have put a lot of emphasis on the develophment there, so comparing framerates and else is like comparing apples and oranges.... We know that don't work that well.
Regarding the heat; in my ecperience every processor gets warm after intensive usage, and gaming is intensive. So yeah, a processor can become a hothead in that situation. Is like playing Far Cry 3 on Hires on a PC, and not expecting the GPU to run a bit hot....Kind of makes sense....
I have the same phone. And yes it is not perfect, but no phone is. Luckily I do not have any issues, but I guess the issues that people are experiencing now, might or will be resolved with the hopefully coming firmware.
I'm not a fan of any brand, I just get allergic reactions fro idevices. If for some reason you are not happy with the phone, return it and get another before it is too late to do that. And get another one. I mean brand. Or stay with your iphone 5.:laugh:
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Sad to hear that you are experiencing poor problems with your device.
But first and foremost, do not compare the performance in gaming with the Idevices, because the way the games are made is often very different per platform. A lot of these games are made with idevice in mind, so the developers have put a lot of emphasis on the develophment there, so comparing framerates and else is like comparing apples and oranges.... We know that don't work that well.
Regarding the heat; in my ecperience every processor gets warm after intensive usage, and gaming is intensive. So yeah, a processor can become a hothead in that situation. Is like playing Far Cry 3 on Hires on a PC, and not expecting the GPU to run a bit hot....Kind of makes sense....
I have the same phone. And yes it is not perfect, but no phone is. Luckily I do not have any issues, but I guess the issues that people are experiencing now, might or will be resolved with the hopefully coming firmware.
I'm not a fan of any brand, I just get allergic reactions fro idevices. If for some reason you are not happy with the phone, return it and get another before it is too late to do that. And get another one. I mean brand. Or stay with your iphone 5.:laugh:
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No like I said , I choose this one cause I wanted to switch to android Iphone is good but too lock.. The problem is that I don't have any heating with the Iphone 5 even playing game. Here with the sony, it heat so much that I don't even be able to touch it..
I really hope an update will come to solve all this
Every Quadcore phone is heating up a lot during playing games. That's not a Sony issue
Don't forget that the iPhone only has 1136x640 pixels vs 1920x1080 of the XZ, plus not all applications/games are optimized for fullhd.
This Linux version is known for this, the next version in JB 4.2.2 is much smoother and designed for higher specked devices. As Renzo4000 points out 1080p is new and nothing is ready for this properly yet, only been out for about 3 months on any phone, so obviously nothing has been optimised for that. And most stupid games etc just scale to fit the screen because they are not made for that resolution, I am sure you know if you enlarge photo's or anything beyond 100% it pixelises etc
Secondly once you unlock the boot loader and install optimised Roms the system will fly.
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This Linux version is known for this, the next version in JB 4.2.2 is much smoother and designed for higher specked devices. As Renzo4000 points out 1080p is new and nothing is ready for this properly yet, only been out for about 3 months on any phone, so obviously nothing has been optimised for that. And most stupid games etc just scale to fit the screen because they are not made for that resolution, I am sure you know if you enlarge photo's or anything beyond 100% it pixelises etc
Secondly once you unlock the boot loader and install optimised Roms the system will fly.
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Thanks! That's maybe a beginning of an answer So We just need to wait for the 4.2.2 Hope soon
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This Linux version is known for this, the next version in JB 4.2.2 is much smoother and designed for higher specked devices. As Renzo4000 points out 1080p is new and nothing is ready for this properly yet, only been out for about 3 months on any phone, so obviously nothing has been optimised for that. And most stupid games etc just scale to fit the screen because they are not made for that resolution, I am sure you know if you enlarge photo's or anything beyond 100% it pixelises etc
Secondly once you unlock the boot loader and install optimised Roms the system will fly.
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this one...
sony is first fullhd android device... even tabs were 1280x720..
so software has to be optmized, for example, i have a strategic game (majesty) wich has serious problems in menu (everything becomes unstable) and game interface is too small...
or i tried another game (don't remember wich one) wich started in a window with black borders...
same goes for microlags, new kernel is much more optimized for s4 architecture , so we have to wait a couple of weeks... a friend of mine with nexus 4 had changes equal to day/night going to 4.2.2 even battery performance was much better
you can even block some apps (for example if you have a branded phone, you can have some bloatware)
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this one...
sony is first fullhd android device... even tabs were 1280x720..
so software has to be optmized, for example, i have a strategic game (majesty) wich has serious problems in menu (everything becomes unstable) and game interface is too small...
or i tried another game (don't remember wich one) wich started in a window with black borders...
same goes for microlags, new kernel is much more optimized for s4 architecture , so we have to wait a couple of weeks... a friend of mine with nexus 4 had changes equal to day/night going to 4.2.2 even battery performance was much better
you can even block some apps (for example if you have a branded phone, you can have some bloatware)
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Ok So the problem is really the old version 4.1.2 so I need to wait for the 4.2.2 or Flash with Cynogen ROM FXperia but losing my warranty Can't wait for this update So after this update the system will fly I suppose Yeaaah because , I like Android, I like the XZ , it's the only problem
XZ runs now on 4.1.2 and 3.4 kernel. The 4.2.2 update should also bring a new kernel, 3.6. sony XZ will be the first phone with 3.6 kernel.
4.2.2 together with the 3.6 kernel is way better optimised for the hardware etc in the XZ. 1080p is quite new so nothing is optimized yet, like posted before
Also, I don't have lag in Sony launvher, removed the weather widget, added some tweaks and all is really smooth now
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XZ runs now on 4.1.2 and 3.4 kernel. The 4.2.2 update should also bring a new kernel, 3.6. sony XZ will be the first phone with 3.6 kernel.
4.2.2 together with the 3.6 kernel is way better optimised for the hardware etc in the XZ. 1080p is quite new so nothing is optimized yet, like posted before
Also, I don't have lag in Sony launvher, removed the weather widget, added some tweaks and all is really smooth now
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It Depend me I have micro lags when scrolling between desktops. Now when launching applications I have no lags. It's really like the screen don't follow instructions.
right, take off the weather widget, photo widget and the lag in home disappear
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right, take off the weather widget, photo widget and the lag in home disappear
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The problem is that update coming out only at the end of April Wait then
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The problem is that update coming out only at the end of April Wait then
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Just announced, Apple is going through the same sort of issues with app/game quality as I mentioned earlier. Things not being built for the higher res screens...
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/21/apple-sets-a-may-1st-cutoff-for-app-submissions-that-use-udid/
I really dont have lags on my apex and nova and i kepping those both open..and no overheat problem like you said ..yeah it heat but not that it annoys me to dont touch...
I have a friend who has an ip5 after facebooking via data for 10 min...you know what happend? It really heat up more than the way your describing the heating up of the z...he is apple dependent and no way on the earth that he change phone from apple...he has apple phone since the verry first
But this this time he addmit that something is messed up
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Just announced, Apple is going through the same sort of issues with app/game quality as I mentioned earlier. Things not being built for the higher res screens...
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/21/apple-sets-a-may-1st-cutoff-for-app-submissions-that-use-udid/
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There's something to be said for the power of Apple regarding getting things fixed, android doesn't have that kind of app compliance