Amazing battery life - Eee Pad Transformer General

When I first saw the transformer I like it because it had a keyboard. However, I was not thrilled about the extra weight the keyboard added due to it's battery. However, I am now a convert. Having a battery in the dock was absolutely the right thing to do.
This morning I opened up the lid on my TF for the first time since using it on Friday. It came up instantly and everything (email and other feeds) was up to date. Most impressively the table was showing 100% charge after 5+ hours of use on Friday. This battery in the dock thing really does keep the tablet ready to go. And when I throw the tablet in my bag I know I won't have to worry about running out of power sometime during the day.

That is what I Thought
...right up until some updates appeared, Now the dock seems to be draining faster than a horses bladder. My advice to you would be dig around on this board for the other battery threads and digest before accepting any updates, just saying.
Still an awesome device though

jerrykur said:
This morning I opened up the lid on my TF for the first time since using it on Friday. It came up instantly and everything (email and other feeds) was up to date. Most impressively the table was showing 100% charge after 5+ hours of use on Friday. .
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Can you explain that a llittle more. You used it for 5 hours on Friday. Plugged it into the keyboard which recharged the battery from its battery? But was the keyboard plugged in all along?
Or was the keyboard unplugged and the 100% charge was just the tablet battery and not the keyboard battery (after 5 days). Which is still great as it appears there is no battery leak in sleep mode or very little depending on what battery % is left on the keyboard.
Did any of that make sense?

I agree on the battery life, its absolutely amazing. Theres like no drain at all when its idle. I last plugged my keyboard for charge on sunday. And its still charging my tablet which is showing full charge.

Yeah, the battery life indicator is a bit misleading.
It only shows the tablet's battery life, and if you have the tablet docked, it's going to be constantly recharging from the dock.
This means that your battery is always going to show 100% - for around the first seven hours or so - then when the dock's battery is depleted, your tablet's battery will run down.

I agree that the indicated battery life is somewhat misleading when the keyboard is connected, which I read will be corrected with an update soon, but I'm still pretty amazed that I can easily go through a long day of operation, with the keyboard on, and still have plenty of reserve late in the evening.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the update will do for us in getting a more precise sense of battery status.

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Most impressively the table was showing 100% charge after 5+ hours of use on Friday.
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Well it would, because if slate and keyboard are connected the unit takes power from the keyboard first (which you can't read apart from red and green lights)
eg: the slate take power directly from the keyboard to keep itself at %100 (in case you disconnect them and the unit has maximum battery life for max usage).
Having said that the battery's do last for ages, i don't know where the first reviewers got 9 hours for the tablet from, seems more like 19 to me.
Maybe they were watching HD video 24/7.

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Quick to die. Slow to Charge?

Have you guys noticed any issue with the charging speed of this phone?
Last night when I went to sleep, 8PM (i know early), the battery was at 9 or 10 percent. I plugged it into the charger and all that. So this morning I go to remove the charger to check e-mail and what have you. 94%.... Come on, its 4:30 AM so that is eight and a half hours and not 100%?
Is this in the experience of anyone else? (Also do not let stock battery meter fool you, it doesn't show accurate measurement of the battery.) If not, what are you guys doing? Or is there anything I can do?
Honestly, 8 hours to charge your phone does not seem right. Something is wrong with your battery. The vibrant does take a long time to fully charge, but never 8+ hours. It usually takes mine a good 3-4 hours when my battery is dead.
I highly recommend download the application juice defender. Research and learn how to use it. It will save you tons of battery.
I'm currently on my 38th hour since the last time I unplugged my phone and I still have 8% battery. Btw, I've been using my phone for phone calls, texting, and playing games.
First of all thanks for the JuiceDefender tip, that looks very promising.
But do you turn your phone off at night to charge? Because I just turned my phone off like 20-25 minutes ago and it popped it all the way to 100% just as I was typing this response.
Any other suggestions, tips, or concerns from anyone, please share.
zaduma said:
First of all thanks for the JuiceDefender tip, that looks very promising.
But do you turn your phone off at night to charge? Because I just turned my phone off like 20-25 minutes ago and it popped it all the way to 100% just as I was typing this response.
Any other suggestions, tips, or concerns from anyone, please share.
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No, I leave my phone on. Usually with Wifi too.
Also, I have a simple wallpaper that is mainly black (it has some blue designs, but the wallpaper is mostly black). Having a black wallpaper saves battery as well because the color black consumes the least of amount of energy from our screens.
Well my homescreen is pretty black. Black mesh background, black icons (bettercut). Black bar mod. Just got done configuring juicedefender, even bought the pro version. Figure if it doesn't work out I can simply return within 24h. And, I will know within 24 if it is helping the draining.
Leaving Wifi/Bluetooth/etc on will suck your battery down. Turn it on only when you need it. This is true of all smart phones.
My Vibrant will charge to full in a couple of hours from dead. I get 10+ hours on a charge even with heavy use but I almost never use Wifi or BT so YMMV. I definitely get better battery life from the Vibrant than the old G1.
Curious if you could pay attention some time when your awake... my phone rarely charges past 98%. Wondering if your phone is charging up to 94% quickly, and then hovering or if it's actually taking 8 hours to get to that point?
Maybe you should get a replacement.
I can plug my phone in around 10pm and at 6am my battery sometimes says 98-99%, but normally is good to go shortly afterwards. I do turn my phone off at night and those that need me do have my home number too unless I'm traveling.
As well I normal usage is 6am-10pm or so and I have typically 40-60% left on the battery depending on the usage. Yes I do check the About Phone and not relying on the wacked out battery meter.
I don't leave wifi, gps or 3g on all the time simply because I don't need them. Id rather squeeze the battery than have something on that isn't being used anyways. Having that quick settings drop down in the Notification bar rocks.
I have the same issue. It always takes about 4.5 -6 hours to 'fully' charge my Vibrant from <10% regardless of whether the phone is on or off. Then after unplugging the charger, the battery info states that the battery is charged to 96%. My belief is that there are firmware issues with at least some TMO Vibrant phones. I'm also dubious of the USB charger. I've ordered a regular charger and I'll see if my suspicion surrounding the USB charging system is founded. Maybe...
zaduma said:
Have you guys noticed any issue with the charging speed of this phone?
Last night when I went to sleep, 8PM (i know early), the battery was at 9 or 10 percent. I plugged it into the charger and all that. So this morning I go to remove the charger to check e-mail and what have you. 94%.... Come on, its 4:30 AM so that is eight and a half hours and not 100%?
Is this in the experience of anyone else? (Also do not let stock battery meter fool you, it doesn't show accurate measurement of the battery.) If not, what are you guys doing? Or is there anything I can do?
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Mine takes about 3 hours to charge but I normally get about 13 hours a day on it with normal to serious use. I haven't had a problem with battery life since I purchased it but I have been trying new battery saving techniques to see how long I could make it last.
Currently using a mostly black background. Wifi only when I'm in the house. Brightness all the way up. Synching two email accounts and Facebook all day. Definitely getting the most out of the battery that I could expect.
Sent from my awesome Vibrant using XDA App
zaduma said:
(Also do not let stock battery meter fool you, it doesn't show accurate measurement of the battery.) If not, what are you guys doing? Or is there anything I can do?
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Well mine takes a while but not that long. I'm going to try out the juiceDefender that was mentioned but the other thing I would recommend is the accurate battery mods that can be found in the Themes and apps section. You can flash with clock work and it's a great way to know what your battery is actually at so you can see how much you're using for various things.
Make sure your charger or USB port has high current output. There are some out there with only a few hundred milliamps. The phone will take nearly one amp and should charge in a few hours.
Excellent point. For me, I'm using the supplied Samsung USB to 110v adapter and I'm getting 4.5-6 hour charge times.
dattaway said:
Make sure your charger or USB port has high current output. There are some out there with only a few hundred milliamps. The phone will take nearly one amp and should charge in a few hours.
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rjscott2005 said:
Excellent point. For me, I'm using the supplied Samsung USB to 110v adapter and I'm getting 4.5-6 hour charge times.
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Also the USB cable is important too. 1 amp over a long, skinny 5 volt cable can drop the voltage. If the charging chip sees a lower voltage, it will think the USB port is at capacity.
I love this phone but I must be honest.. this phone is worst as the Motorola cliq battery wise. it's terrible. I had 100 percent battery life at 8am and at 10:50am I had 23 percent battery left............ no matter what I was doing.. even if I had the screen on full blast *i had it on the lowest* it still shouldn't be almost dead in 3 hours .... smh!
stepinmyworld said:
I love this phone but I must be honest.. this phone is worst as the Motorola cliq battery wise. it's terrible. I had 100 percent battery life at 8am and at 10:50am I had 23 percent battery left............ no matter what I was doing.. even if I had the screen on full blast *i had it on the lowest* it still shouldn't be almost dead in 3 hours .... smh!
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One poorly written application running in the background could be causing the CPU to wake up constantly. Yet I can talk for hours and the battery will still be nearly full.
I know for sure one of the latest versions of Facebook ate batteries like crazy. I ended up installing an older version and my battery life returned.
Update on the issue. I was using juice defender but it wasn't doing anything for me as far as I could tell. I have since turned off vibrate on touch, and noises coming on during clicking. I am using a usb hub with two vibrants on it. I'll plug it into the wall tonight and see how that goes.
I have been turning off my wifi when not using it. A little better I suppose. While typing this I went from 49 to 46 percent and I am a fast typer. No wifi bluetooth gps.
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Yes the battery drains pretty fast, and it does take about 3 hours to charge... my main problem is... at night when I plug in to charge, couple hours later I get woken up by a beep and popup window telling me charging is done and to unplug...
anyone know how to turn that off?

Battery life experiences

Just starting a thread for battery life experience as people use the phone. Mine is pretty freakin' great right now, but I'll post some initial results after I get home later tonight. I finished charging to 100% almost 2 hours ago, and with just a bit of usage (maybe 10 minutes total screen on time) I still am at 100%. Though, we know that it sometimes takes a long time to drop from 100% to 90%.
What are other people's experiences? Please post display on time in battery stats, as that gives a good feel for how much you're actually using the phone.
Unplugged it at 6:30am with a full charge.
Took it to work, I put it in airplane mode when I'm in the building because I don't get a signal and don't want the radio searching for a signal and wasting power. GPS/Bluetooth/Wifi are all turned off. I turn the radio back on when I'm out of the building, and I'd estimate it's been on 2 hours since it was charged.
Have watched the latest episode of Family Guy and started on the latest episode of Dexter using Rock Player.
I estimate the screen has been on for about 4 hours. I can only estimate because I had to plug the phone in to transfer a file a couple hours ago which reset the stats.
I've downloaded and installed about 20-30 apps today over 3G networks.
At the current time of 3:15pm (8 hours 45 minutes since full charge), I have 30% of the battery left.
I think you're supposed to do a full charge and full discharge so the phone can "calibrate" the battery meter, which I have not done yet, but so far I'm very pleased. Puts my 2 yr old G1's battery life to shame...
Yeah it sounds decent. A bit better than my Nexus One was.
I would say it is on par with the Nexus One. Should get you through the day but you will be plugging it in at night. It is comparable to most android phones.
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Without explaining a bunch of boring details, it's definitely better than my N1 so far. Charged it up right after getting it from the UPS guy today for a couple of hours while I took a nap.
We'll just have to wait and see after a few days of use, charges and discharges. Looking great so far, though!
Played around with it at the store today, came in at 3 p.m after school. The demo unit was already at 45% when I got it, surfed the web for about half an hour, downloaded an app, watched YouTube for about 5 minutes and the phone died at about 4:30.
Not really impressed, but its an Android phone. Hopefully it can be better, the good thing is that the web browser is a lot faster than my iPhone 4. That's what keeping me on returning the iPhone, and it starts up a lot faster as well. Took about 20 seconds to boot up after the phone died on me, and the rep charged it.
Definitely will be needing to charge it every night.
3 hr bike ride with music playing used about %50 of the bat. So its way better then my G1 but not as good as my Iphone 2g.
I'm getting much better battery life then I was getting on the G1....love this phone
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How about someone download Battery Left widget and tell us what it says.
Will vary by user but it will be more accurate with remaining battery life.
So far the battery life on mine is terrible compared to my nexus one, and that was terrible as well.
I woke up 10am, phone on the charger, took it off, around 2pm made two phone calls. Went to work at 5pm, phone's battery was at 23% around 7pm. My nexus one around that point would be at ~50%. So far I'm not impressed with this phone, more work could have went into it.
I loaded a few webpages... did a video chat with someone on Fring for about a minute (lol), downloaded a few apps, had a few phone calls... one lasting about 10 minutes... and after being off the charger for 5 and a half hours.. i'm at 44 percent power... this is my first android device so I'm not sure if that's good or bad
Have you all that are reporting poor battery life done the full-charge/full-discharge thing to "calibrate" the battery meter. I'm not sure that it really matters, but I'm assuming it does since battery info is one of the things you can wipe in the recovery roms.
I'm still extremely pleased with my battery life.
I got the phone yesterday and played with it right out of the box till it was at 5% battery... i plugged it in lastnight and let it fully charge and i unplugged it at 6:15am this mornining... i used the gps to get to work to see how it was... i have watched videos on youtube, gone on the internet, checked and sent emails and texts, downloaded some apps... and played around with it today... i had it plugged into the computer thru usb for approx 5 min tops to set up some media files... and as of now at 3:33pm my battery is at 50%
Opening mine at 930/10pm, heavily used it to burn it to 0% and did that by 12/1230am. Charged it to 100% by 330am. Played with it a bit then went to bed, left it unplugged. Woke up today and burned it to 0% by 330pm. It's charging right now and we'll see how it goes throughout tonight. It will get a bit of pocket time so I'll get a real feel for the battery life.
Took mine off the charger at 7am throught the day had 20 incoming/outgoing calls all lasted at least 2or 3 mins each, downloaded a couple of apps, checked facebook and twitter a few times. showed it off to some friends and now it is almost 5:00 and still have 60% battery, so I am impressed especially since I had a G1 before this
Jorsher said:
Have you all that are reporting poor battery life done the full-charge/full-discharge thing to "calibrate" the battery meter. I'm not sure that it really matters, but I'm assuming it does since battery info is one of the things you can wipe in the recovery roms.
I'm still extremely pleased with my battery life.
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They aren't changing them long enough. Lithium ion batteries don't have to be trained like the older style ones. Other other culprit could be the batterystats.bin but you can't access or delete that without root. Jut discharge the battery till it powers off and charge for 4-6 hrs.
charged mine last night while tethered to my laptop browsing - took it off about midnight
this morning the alarm sound (pre-alarm 5 minutes, full alarm for 10 mins and never woke me btw), spent about 2 hours+ talking, browsed the web for maybe 15 minutes, downloaded a few apps from the market and ran a few quadrant benchmark test - it's now almost 6:00PM and it's at 40% -
i'm happy with that - and from experience with my MT3G and the vibrant, battery life should improve with some cycling or useage
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Jut discharge the battery till it powers off and charge for 4-6 hrs.
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leave it on the charger for 4-6 hours after its full or just to charge it from empty to full?
I'm very glad to hear about the excellent battery life. A friend of mine has even reported his phone being on for a full day and still having battery life left.
People make sure that you charge up your battery fully before turning the phone on. It's better to be safe than sorry. I know people say it does not matter but otherwise the battery won't be accurate if you just turn it on out of the box.
10 hours and some change later after normal phone usage and I had to charge it... I'm impressed to say the least

[Q] Does battery get better after a day? If not, what can I do?

So I got my G2 yesterday at about 4:30. I LOVE it, absolutely (a bit of a weak hinge, and I had a random reboot and trouble starting WiFi at first, but it's seriously fantastic). But I'm having problems with the battery. At the store the guy turned it on and handed it to me, and I used it on the way home to the point that, by about 1.5 or 2 hours after turning it on the first time, it was at about 15% battery. So I started charging it, and then read an article online that it should be discharged, so I unplugged it after it went up about 4 or 5% in battery life to 16% and used it a bit more to drain it all the way. Then I read a different one saying you should never discharge it because it's Lithium Ion, and so I turned it off until I could get to the charger and then charged it and left it charging until I woke up at 6. Then I unplugged it, used it for about 20 minutes in the morning, and turned it off. I turned it back on at 3 today, used it mildly (Angry Birds, an emulator, and the camera, but couldn't get data access except very intermittent EDGE, no Wifi or GPS enabled) until 4:10, and noticed that it was at 65% battery life. The screen is on automatic brightness, and I have animations and a live background, but those are my only concessions. It said 45% of battery use was Android and that was the highest thing, I think display was only second or third (unlike my parents' Vibrants where it's like 66% display).
So that's 1.5 hours for a third of the battery, with moderate usage (I would argue that no data or GPS or wifi or internet usage at all is very moderate). So, on average, I could expect to get 4.5 hours of battery life? At one point it went from 55m unplugged to 1:07 unplugged and the battery went down about 10%. That's worse than my parents' Vibrants, and they say they didn't do anything to train their battery--and I've seen reports, especially on here, of people getting 10 or more hours of use with more usage than I had. I know you train Android and not the battery, but still, I have seen SUCH conflicting information on this that I don't even think it'd be helpful to search anymore (and trust me, I have). So does anyone know about this, definitively? Does the battery life get better after I charge it and discharge it for several days? Should I let it go down to a full discharge or keep it above 35-40%? Does it harm it to keep it plugged in after it finishes charging, or does it have a thing to stop charging the battery and just run off AC once it reaches 100%? Is it too late to train my battery now? Are there any official or reliable large-capacity ones for the G2, like a 1750 mAh?
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Rocky
Don't trust the battery meter. Fully charge your phone up, and it runs for forever. I've gone days where I unplugged it at 7:30 AM, and didn't plug it back in until 5:30 AM, and the battery was still above 20%. That was a day of fairly light usage, so that's not necessarily typical; with my normal usage (which is somewhat heavy), it's at about 30% by the time I plug it in at around 10:00 PM. The only time this isn't true is when I go for hours on an Angry Birds marathon :S
I have noticed on all my android phones that the first couple charges seem to drop much faster and each subsequent charge seems to get better. I run mine all day with push work email and vibrate all day and am upset when it is below 65% at 10PM and I unplug it at 7:30 am each day.
But did you guys do the same thing I did (15% then charge overnight) and then get around the same life, on your first day? Is it likely my short charge the first time did any damage? And are there any apps to provide a more accurate battery meter, preferably in place of the stock one?
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Rocky
I did nothing special. I put it on charge when I got it but did not do a full charge before leaving work and going home. Did a full charge that night.
I plug it in each night when I go to bed and it has been as high at 70% and as low as 30% depending on how much phone and data time I spent that day.
I unplugged mine today at 7:36am and at 4:06PM it is at 79%.
I use battery indicator from the market. It does not poll and only listens for the OS battery change broadcast so it does not use up battery by running. Some poll and as such use battery to report.
The general thing about Lithium Batteries is that a full discharge is bad if the voltage level goes below a certain point to where the onboard circuits will disable that battery permanently. Most of the time the boards only do that if it's left discharged for a long time I believe, correct me if I'm wrong here.
Ideally, you're not supposed to turn on the phone when you got it. You were supposed to charge it till green and then you could use it, but I'm pretty sure not everyone can resist the temptation to turn on such an awesome phone . The battery life will blow the first week of use. I don't know why, but it just does; you'd have to break in that battery. Then the general rule I follow is to perform a full discharge once a month and then do a full recharge.
I also placed my phone on GSM AUTO PRL but for doing that I just exchanged some low 3G signal threshold for Edge; the extra battery life I got though is just that much more useful to me. Using WCDMA Preferred, the phone just wasted so much
To answer your questions, my experiences with the N1, Vibrant, and G2... battery life just blows in the beginning but gets better with use. The first charge you did shouldn't have damaged the battery but I think you may have wasted 2 of the possible 400-500 cycles that battery is capable of doing what you did. Finally, I use BatteryTime by Motalen for the status bar battery indicator which shows the % left.
Yeah, it just sucks because the guy at the store literally put my SIM card in and then turned it on and handed it to me. I probably wouldn't have turned it on until it had charged if he hadn't, or at least I like to think so.
So it's good to do the discharge thing once a month, and probably not bad for the battery to let it dip down as long as I don't prolong it too much? And I'm okay to just charge it and use it during the day, basically, from now on?
Does battstat poll the battery or just listen?
SeReaction said:
The battery life will blow the first week of use. I don't know why, but it just does; you'd have to break in that battery. Then the general rule I follow is to perform a full discharge once a month and then do a full recharge.
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Nonsense. The battery runs down fast the first week because you got a new toy and you can't help playing with it all the time. After a while the novelty wears off and you use it a lot less. The battery doesnt just magically get better
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Nonsense. The battery runs down fast the first week because you got a new toy and you can't help playing with it all the time. After a while the novelty wears off and you use it a lot less. The battery doesnt just magically get better
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See but if that's true then I can only expect 4.5-5 hours of battery life which is not what the G2's supposed to get. Which means either I DID mess up my battery instead of just running through some cycles, or I have a bad one, but not horribly bad, just for some reason only like 60% as good as everyone else's. I do agree about the novelty thing (it's my first smartphone), but understand I was not really doing all that much when I drained my battery like I said. Not nearly as much as it should take.
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The only time this isn't true is when I go for hours on an Angry Birds marathon :S
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Those damn birds aren't content to kill pigs; they have to go after our batteries too!
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Nonsense. The battery runs down fast the first week because you got a new toy and you can't help playing with it all the time. After a while the novelty wears off and you use it a lot less. The battery doesnt just magically get better
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I'm hoping that's the case. I remember receiving my N1 and I got to relive my childhood days for 12 straight hours. Regardless it's pretty sad to say that I leave my G2 at home while at work and it's down from 100% to ~60% with Wifi on (and with it staying on in the advanced settings) and GSM Auto PRL; I work a 8 hours shift. I left my N1 at home to mess with my G2 at work and my N1 went from 100% to ~80%.
Those 100 extra milliamphrs shouldn't do that much of a difference. Not to mention the N1 is slower and on a 65nm process. Did I also mention that both my G2 and N1 run the same services and 3G is also disabled on my G2 since I don't have my new SIM activated yet? Also, Latitude is always on for my N1.
It's just my experience though. I'll give this a good thorough test when I get the time. That or pony up for an extended battery.
On the other hand, my wife's GalaS is doing just fine in terms of battery life. Matching my N1 with the same settings and services.

[Q] Battery Life?

So Samsung Omnia 7 or Focus owners, how is the battery treating you on the phone? I'm going to switch to AT&T for this phone, but I want to make sure battery life is good too on it!
Based on your "average" use, how much battery life do you get? You can make it like 1 and a half days? Barely make it through a day? 2 days??
Thanks everyone! Vote in the poll, but I'd rather here your written opinions!
You seem to be missing the Lasts a Full Day option...
Could people post whether their usage is using push or not? Been hearing some heavily varying battery life from people and personally I need this phone to last a full day on push.
My finding so far....
It doesn't last a day doing what i want it to. But I do a lot with it, bluetooth music for hours, wifi when at home, games at breaks, facebook checking, marketplace scanning, phone calls, plenty of texts and email (set to 30 min)
To be honest it does very well, would be handy to get some app that shows % of batt and estimated time remaining.
It does seem to take quite a while to charge from nearly flat, the Omnia 7 has a decent sized battery. In order to increase the battery life i've set the tiles to red, I seem to remember reading a while back that the power consumption is reduced when displaying red for some reason or another. Will keep you posted if i notice a measurable difference to life.
I tend to charge the phone overnight, and by 5/6pm the battery icon is pretty much empty and i give it a boost for an hour to see me through the rest of the evening before getting its proper charge at night.
Remember batteries tend to take a few days/weeks to reach there maximum performance.
Sorry for the disjointed post but its whatever comes to mind as i type lol
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You seem to be missing the Lasts a Full Day option...
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Well, the "Lasts a day and a half" covers lasting a full day. If your phone barely lasts a full day, then you would pick the first option. If it lasts a full day pretty well, then you would probably have enough juice to go another half day, therefore you would pick the second option.
Thanks for your feedback rlatarche! Yeah it might be true that the battery needs to settle in and be better calibrated, after being drained and recharged. That'd be awesome if your battery life improves sometime!
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Well, the "Lasts a day and a half" covers lasting a full day. If your phone barely lasts a full day, then you would pick the first option. If it lasts a full day pretty well, then you would probably have enough juice to go another half day, therefore you would pick the second option.
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But what if you have, say 15% left at the end of the day. That's not enough for another half a day, but I wouldn't say it's barely making it a day.
Depends on what you mean by barely.
Of course, I'm only messing with you.
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But what if you have, say 15% left at the end of the day. That's not enough for another half a day, but I wouldn't say it's barely making it a day.
Depends on what you mean by barely.
Of course, I'm only messing with you.
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Haha I guess. There's no way to edit polls though, is there? I couldn't find the option to at all :/
I can play music for a couple of hours while commuting, surf occasionally throughout the day over Wifi and still have plenty of charge left by bed(charging)time.
Of course, the joy of not having a sealed phone is that you can always buy a second battery
Battery does not last long at all.
Im a pretty heavy data user. Email, Attachments, Browsing, Wifi, Etc. Fully Charged this morning,its now 3:00PM and it needs a charge. barley see the white battery level on the display.
I have added a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD card. Everything is working fine. I hope this is not a related issue.
Anyone else experiencing this as a heavy user.
Overall im very happy with the phone. very fluid and easy to use. Great one handed operation.
illipro said:
Battery does not last long at all.
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I think the battery needs a few charge cycles to attain its full capacity. Also I think it is suggested that you charge the Li-ion batteries very often first few days and don't let them deplete completely.
illipro said:
Battery does not last long at all.
Im a pretty heavy data user. Email, Attachments, Browsing, Wifi, Etc. Fully Charged this morning,its now 3:00PM and it needs a charge. barley see the white battery level on the display.
I have added a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD card. Everything is working fine. I hope this is not a related issue.
Anyone else experiencing this as a heavy user.
Overall im very happy with the phone. very fluid and easy to use. Great one handed operation.
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Well I ended up getting the HD7. Battery life isn't great over here either. I got through until like 6:00 tonight, from a morning's charge. As the other guy said, the batteries might need some time to train themselves.
The problem with battery usage on the Focus and the Omnia 7 is the S-AMOLED display. AMOLED displays have different power usage depending on what is showing on screen while LCDs tend to have pretty much the same power usage no matter what is showing.
If you're seeing a white screen on your Focus, it's using about 3 times more power than the same screen on an HD7, for example. That means that if you spend most of the time looking at websites, the mail app or the facebook app, your battery will last less than on a phone with an LCD display.
However, if most of the time your phone is on standby or you're using apps with a black background your phone will last a lot longer than the HD7 also thanks to the bigger battery (1500mAh vs 1230mAh).
Last night my Focus received a full charge.
Took the phone off the charger at 7am and needed to put it back on at 7pm.
2 hours of phone calls.
Gmail (Push, 45 emails 1 attachment)
Texting (40 texts)
Light browsing of the web
I have had some accidental camera button smushes and that turns the phone on, and it doesn't go back to sleep, so that could be some drain.
I used it on Nov 8th from desk at work with it plugged in to wall charger. It took nearly the whole 9 hours I was there to charge the battery while I was using it. I was using it VERY heavily. Due to MicroSD issue (Lost everything on power cycle) I had to re add apps over the air. I streamed & downloaded from Zune, had all 'use location' features on, activated find phone fast feature, linked 4 email accounts, I pretty much got paid to play with my phone all day.
Nov 9th, I woke up with full charge around 7am. Didn't use phone much till got to work 9:45am. Today I left it unplugged from wall to test battery life. I streamed from Zune and Last.FM, and had 43 minutes of phone calls, 47 text messages, 11 of which had pics attached, and used map with location and traffic on when I went to lunch. Note the screen is off during music streaming. I also used a very simple $10 Logitech 2 speaker set that plugged into my phone, with phone volume on 20. When I got into my car at 8:15pm I still had life in the phone. I assume that using the external speakers greatly reduced power drain on phone. I have a spare battery and wall charger. The wall charger takes about 5-6 hours to charge a dead battery. I'm not sure yet how long it takes the phone to charge the battery, since I sleep while its doing it.
Mine is almost dead by late afternoon.
I shouldn't have to shut all the extra like wifi, bluetooth, location and dim the screen just to scrape by for barely a day. It's either the OEM batteries, or inefficiencies in the WP7 code. Since no 3rd party apps can run the background, I can't blame them...yet!

[Q] Terrible battery performance?

Hi Guys,
How is your battery performance going? We have three 64GB 3G Lenovo tablets in our office and we are struggling to get two hours usage out of any tablet. Even just leaving them in standby mode will drain them fast (less than a day). I have the acer iconia A500 and can leave that around for days and still have some juice when I pick it up again. Any idea why battery life is terrible on the Lenovo? We are all running different apps. Mine is pretty much just running stock with a few ebook reader apps.
Cheers,
SB
Something is wrong with them if the battery life is that poor. Presumably with the hardware if you're running things mostly stock. Strange, though, that it'd be all of them and not just one. Mine gets 8 solid hours of medium to heavy use, no sweat, and other people have indicated theirs get about the same. You might want to contact Lenovo's tech support (though just a word of warning, they have kinda lame tech support nowadays...).
I've got a 32GB no 3G tablet that continues to surprise me with it's battery life. I'd read plenty about folks with crappy recharge and usage times.
Mine will still have the same charge the next day if I don't put it in the dock and I generally get 7-8 hours out of a full charge, even over the period of a few days.
The old 'cell-standby' battery drain disappeared a while back. Don't know why. Don't miss it at all.
Under normal use for me (sketchbook pro, browsing, and an occasional game) I get about 8-12 hours of use (basing that on the screen on %), with 3-4 days between charges. Something is certainly up with yours, what is listed under settings>about tablet>Battery Use?
Info
Tablet 1:
Battery 69%, 7 hours on battery, maybe 20 minutes use. (Mobile broadband turned off)
Screen 39% (on auto brightness)
WiFi 26%
tablet Idle: 23%
Cell Standby 7%
Android OS 7%
The other two are not available, but as a colleague ran out the door, he mentioned that his cell standby was 33% despite mobile broadband being turned off.
Thanks for your feedback so far.
Mine (16GB version) lasts for 4 hours when it's REALLY busy, that means when I stream videos over wireless.
Otherwise...after a full day of normal usage I'm back from 100% to 40%.
Anything else I think is not acceptable..I suggest you guys have your tablets replaced.
Wait, I just had a thought. Are you guys using the keyboard folio with the tablets? If so, there's something you should know. After putting the tablet to sleep, you can't close the folio for another 10-20 seconds afterwards. Otherwise, the optical trackpoint ends up detecting motion from the tablet being on top of it and it wakes the tablet up repeatedly while the thing is sitting closed. So you have to put the tablet in sleep with the folio still open, let it sit until it goes into deep sleep, wave your finger over the trackpoint to make sure it has (after 10-20 seconds), THEN close it up.
my battery is good on standby (with wifi sleep).
Your battery drain is because of cell network. use airplane mode !
I RMA's 2 of them with the same symptoms, took all day to charge, discharged way to fast they ended up having both bad motherboards and bad batteries. I called up lenovo sent them in and had to wait about 3 weeks for the parts to come in, but they have been working incredibly well now.
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I RMA's 2 of them with the same symptoms, took all day to charge, discharged way to fast they ended up having both bad motherboards and bad batteries. I called up lenovo sent them in and had to wait about 3 weeks for the parts to come in, but they have been working incredibly well now.
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That sounds very similar to the three we have. 6-8 hours to charge. Less than an hour of use to discharge. Less than 10 hours on standby to discharge. Lenovo suggested a factory reset (ha ha) to fix the problem. I'll humour them for the weekend.

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