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Bad battery life after 107 update

Just like the title says. I have checked all my settins syncs which programs are running in the background and so forth.. so im sure its not that..
Anyways here goes.
Before the update I could get about 12-14 hrs of use out of a full battery charge, however after this update I can only get about 5-7 hrs out of a charge.. Nothing had changed.. my usage is the same, my wifi,bluetooth,gps,4g are all off. I don't have any programs syncing or updating in the background.. So i have NO CLUE as to why my battery life cut in half after this update.

I already posted this elsewhere......my battery life was really great before this update.
Same exact settings now as before, plus the phone was reloaded to factory settings by the Sprint store first as I was having some other issues...email not coming through timely, cell signal falling and dropping calls, etc.
My battery life is now 1/2 of what it was prior to the D107 update.

I would say wait and see. When I would flash roms on my HTC phone the battery would die quickly for awhile. After 2-3 full charges it would go back to normal.

Check Cell Standby in battery status. See if Time without signal is 50% or more.

Cell standby is 18% and time without signal is 7%

My time without signal is only 2% So I'm not sure what is going on to make my battery life soo bad.

i got 9 hours today with decent usage where before if say 12 or so ... since the update my time without signal is in the 30-50% range on average & it was 3-4% before .. im a little frustrated on that & i know its taxin the battery a little so . . .

my update has really screwed my battery life. I notice too that Juice Defender keeps reading at 1.00x instead of 1.6-1.8 before the update. I also notice my TWS was at 50-52%. I tried the Airplane mode toggle and it didn't do ****. I really love this phone, but i'm about to return it and try another before my 30 days is up.
So far, i'm concerned with:
back button is not consistent (works sometimes sometimes it sucks)
TWS over 50% of battery consumption.
upgrade made juicedefender not work
little wobble in the phone but not too bad
scratched screen just from rivet in jeans
AND pissed about the tv out that sprint omitted

jemarent said:
my update has really screwed my battery life. I notice too that Juice Defender keeps reading at 1.00x instead of 1.6-1.8 before the update. I also notice my TWS was at 50-52%. I tried the Airplane mode toggle and it didn't do ****. I really love this phone, but i'm about to return it and try another before my 30 days is up.
So far, i'm concerned with:
back button is not consistent (works sometimes sometimes it sucks)
TWS over 50% of battery consumption.
upgrade made juicedefender not work
little wobble in the phone but not too bad
scratched screen just from rivet in jeans
AND pissed about the tv out that sprint omitted
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The back button is a defect in an early batch of phones.. If you swap it, you will probably get a working model..
My email app didn't sync after the update, so I had to reinstall Roadsync. It might be the same thing with JuiceDefender.

My battery is getting much better. Not sure if it is the galaxy rom, the update or my battery is just getting conditioned better. I unplugged my phone this morning and have been on it constantly web browsing, music, 4g, 3g, lots of tapatalk use. 36% left and just approaching 4hrs of being unplugged.
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How do you roll back this update.
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after i re-flashed and updated, ive experienced big drops from the 90% zone to like 75% in a short amount of time but then the decrease stays pretty slow.
im using adv task killer on maximum and juice defender
this combo works pretty well for me, i cant explain the 25% loss. I think my battery still needs calibration, but i get around 14-18 hours normally.

I've noticed the increased battery drain also. I've been tracking it the past couple days with Spare Parts. If you open Spare Parts, click on Battery history. If your phone is running like mine is right now, the Running time is at almost 100%. That means that something is preventing it from sleeping. Next, click the tab that says "other usage", and change it to "Partial wake usage". Mine is showing that Android System is the culprit, causing the partial wake lock. It was not doing this before the DI07 update. I did a factory reset this morning and the only app I installed was Spare Parts, just to make sure it wasn't an app I was using. I get the same results on a fresh clean ROM as I do using noobnl's ROM. NOT COOL!

Well my full run through of the battery is over. I've turned a new leaf about the battery on this. I'm keeping the Epic.
Conditions: Was at zero brightness for about 4hrs of this. Set it to 0 after getting to work. You can see the screen perfectly fine at 0 indoors. (30 minute ride)
GPS - Off except the couple times I checked out google earth
Sync - full manual syncing / with background data on to use the market
Usage: Heavy heavy usage for all but 20 minutes. Total time with screen actually on was about 4 1/2 hours. Lots of tapatalk use, streamed about 20 minutes of CNN via Slingplayer, Streamed about 10 minutes worth of music via last FM. Dolphin browser usage. About an hour of total usage was over 4G
No task managers (well Androids but that doesn't count), no juice defender.
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After all that it has been sitting at 3% for 20 minutes (after taking the ss) with no usage as I wait for it to finally die and write this post. Just over 5hrs straight of near pure 3g/4g data usage over various applications and multimedia is perfectly acceptable to me. This is WAY longer than the average consumer laptop would get under similar usage w/ an aircard.
If I didn't use the phone like a miniature laptop so heavily and just kept it to normal use and some phone calls with auto brightness on I'd guesstimate I'd easily get 10 hours or so if not a lot longer out of it.
Running: Andromeda Galaxy Rom 1.0.3

the reason your getting bad battery life is because it reset all your battery stats. it's going to take a couple days til your battery life gets better. try the bump charging method.

Battery after 2.3.4 and rooting

So I've rooted my first android phone yesterday!
I've noticed the battery is a bit better.
My battery is down to 67% after 1 hour and 23 mintues of display turned on. I've barely installed anything on the phone.
Is this okay? Should it be better?
Another thing: is there a way to "underclock" or reduce the voltage and save battery like that?
I want to get as much out of the battery as possible.
Thank you

33% drain in that time is pretty poor, I'd expect no more than 10%, but ideally less.

The phone automatically underclocks when youre not using the phone. I had system monitor installed and noticed that when im not doing anything on the phone, the processor goes to 200mhz, and as soon as i click around it jumps to 500 800 1200mhz depending on use.
As for your battery issue, i noticed some apps keep your processor busy at 1200, and then your battery drains even with the screen off. And no thats not normal, in one hour it should at the most go down to 90% on idle. The battery is actually impressive.
And sometimes, when you're on 3g networks and the signals are low, your phone will still drain the battery. And you will notice the back of the phone heating up, oth from running the processor at 1200mhz and using 3g
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Rooting has nothing to do with battery .
jje

My friend tell me root will cause battery run out faster, is that true?

No root is gaining administrators rights to a lower level of the OS .
jje

It's not 1:26 of idle, it's of screen time use.
I've got in my funning services stuff like, email, social hub, music, google+, juicedefender, google maps. Could any of these be draining my battery?
How can I keep some of these apps from not being in my running apps?
For instance, when I force close the google maps, it turn back on after a few seconds.

Google maps and gmail app never bugged me, but i did have issues with social hub and email. Use to drain my battery, so i just signed out because there was no way to stop the background services. Besides that i always have gmaps, gmail, gtalk, go chat for Facebook, Facebook app, whatsapp running in the background and no issues.
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Here are a few screen shots that I took with the battery and screen on stats. Can anyone tell me if it's normal or if I've still got a battery issue?
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Do you set the brightness to full often?
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Set automatic at the screen menu.

No, my brightness is almost always on the lowest setting. I turn it on fully only when I am in direct sunlight and need to use the phone for browsing etc (which doesn't happen often, mostly calls which I can do with minimum brightness).

I dont really know where the problem is, but it doesn't sound normal, the timing you say you are getting. Try to keep a black back ground and dark themes ( because in Amoled displays although low power consumption they use more energy to display white and colors rather tha black). And ley your phone turn off with low battery and charge it to full without disconnecting, to complete a cycle for better efficiency
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so 1.5 hrs for 1/3rd battery usage?
This means you'll get about 4-4.5 hrs of screen usage (assuming normal drainage during screen-offs). This is normal I would say.
On my undervolted phone, I usually get about 5 hours of display time + about 10-12 hours of screen-off time which carries me through the day quite easily.
You can Undervolt your phone using Tegrak's app. More on that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101355&highlight=tegrak
Also, you can freeze system apps etc that you don't use by checking this list (using Titanium Backup). (Credit to shanume)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html

What's your phone carrier?
If your are in Japan, You need to configure build.prop.
If your not in JP, I don't know.. Try flight mode. or running without SIM.
so that you can check if the issue related with signal or not. at least...
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I'm not from Japan, but you guys make it sound like something is wrong.
Is there an app that can monitor the usage so I can post results somehow?
Maybe monitor it for all running apps etc?
I did this little test yesterday:
I played a video on my phone (from the SD card) for 20 min with no sound. It took down around 4% of the battery. It was a 720p (1.4GB for 50 min).
Is that normal?
Edit: Just tested it again: 30 min of 720p video, with max volume took down from 25% to 17% (so 8% battery for 30 min 720p video from SD card).

matanc1 said:
I'm not from Japan, but you guys make it sound like something is wrong.
Is there an app that can monitor the usage so I can post results somehow?
Maybe monitor it for all running apps etc?
I did this little test yesterday:
I played a video on my phone (from the SD card) for 20 min with no sound. It took down around 4% of the battery. It was a 720p (1.4GB for 50 min).
Is that normal?
Edit: Just tested it again: 30 min of 720p video, with max volume took down from 25% to 17% (so 8% battery for 30 min 720p video from SD card).
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Again - both 4% for 20 mins and 8% for 30 mins sound normal. You can post these numbers on the Litening Rom thread (quick link in my signature) and other users can confirm.

this is poor... not sure what the hell original ROM doing with you.. in case you dont mind you might give it a shot to try litening or criskelo ROM..

aks1447 said:
this is poor... not sure what the hell original ROM doing with you.. in case you dont mind you might give it a shot to try litening or criskelo ROM..
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And what battery drain do you normally see if you play a video for 30 mins?

I'm using VillainROM 2.0 if I didn't mention it before

[Test] Battery Draining

Ok, I've been thinking about this for a while now so I'm going to make a test to decide if I really need a battery saver. I'm making this test for myself purely but I thought someone might wanted to see the results as well so here we go.
The gear:
Samsung Galaxy S2, non-rooted
2000 mah Samsung battery
The competitors
Phone on its own
JuiceDefender Ultimate
GreenPower Free
The settings
Prefer Wifi over data
Connect every 30 min to sync
No night settings (to be fair against the others)
Screen brightness: Auto
I know the battery savers are made to save battery when not using your phone so the screen will be locked the phone only used for a small amount of time between chargings.
The phone is unplugged at 100% and I will continue down to 30% before charging again. I will only be testing each one once, as of now at least.
We'll see how it goes over the next days so feel free to ask questions and such.

Many people I know with an S2 use battery saving apps but i really see no point in them, when we used to compare our stock phones running the same stock ROM there was minimal battery difference. Haptic feedback will be off or on? That makes a big difference.
You should put in a custom ROM to see how much better it is compared to stock.
i look forward to seeing the results of this test though

If I got it correctly haptic feedback is phone vibration on touch, right? That's off at least, never liked it. I'd like to put a custom ROM but I don't want to root the phone, yet.. Maybe in a few months or a year...
I will be updating this as we go along. At the moment we are at 96% with 3 hours of sleep time and only a few minutes of screen time.

Ermm, can I ask does task killer drain your battery? Sorry if I ask the wrong question.

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Ermm, can I ask does task killer drain your battery? Sorry if I ask the wrong question.
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task killer will drain battery if the programs you closed restarts, use advance task killer and ignore those that do,you may need it for those apps that didnt close properly
im interested in your trial, juice defender service was failing to run on my s2, it ended up eating my battery restarting the service.
im looking to save power as i lose 15% over night with flight mode while i hear people lose 1,2%

Yes Android is a bit different than computer OS. To start an app drains more battery than just pushing the "back"-button and let it be in stand by so don't use task killers.
Yea I have had trouble some times with the battery saver draining quite a lot over the night but usually it has been because I had a mail as a widget with push-notification so the battery saver wouldn't disable internet but almost push all my other accounts as well. That was my solution at least. We'll see how this goes.
4h in 93% battery
15 min scrren time

A little update. You see where we are.
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And does anyone know what can have caused this? This is a picture from a few days ago. It has happened maybe 10 times over the last 2 months. Simply the phone gets hot and the only way to unlock the screen is to remove the battery, refit it and then start it. And then it shows this massive drain.

Okay we got 1 day 13 hours down to 30% with 30 min of screen time. Next up is the Juice Defender Ultimate with night settings off.

An update for you all. As you can see JuiceDefender has already passed the "vanilla" time.

I had an odd problem. Sometime during night, the battery suddelny decided to drain at much faster rate and it took it only 6 hours or so to drain from 75% to 15%. I checked with BetterBatteryStats but there seems to be no app that has kept it awake. Anyway, I can't continue with this test spimply because I don't have time for reruns.
What I can say in previous experience:
Vanilla
Great that as soon as a message comes in you get notified immediately.
Unfortunately that's because wifi or data is kept on all the time, draining battery.
JuiceDefender
Usually gives my phone 3-4 days of battery.
It does take some time (up to 15 sec or so) when you unlock the screen to connect and that can be annoying if you are in a hurry.
When I have night settings on to set phone in no vibration, no sound but also have different night setting time for weekends the phone vibrates once at midnight between weekdays and what JuiceDefender recognizes as weekend.
Sometimes it doesn't feel like the apps are updating even though settings are set to allow "dumb apps" to update as well as plenty of time to do so.
GreenPower
I have only had time to use it for a few days and it is only the free version. I will probably buy the premium soon.
It has a better UI than JuiceDefender though not so many settings. I'm not really sure if I need those other settings.
Best thing, it connects instantly to data when I unlock the phone so I can get on to the web or viber or such to see messages directly.
If anyone wants to continue this thread you may do so but I won't make more test as for the moment. Bottom line is that the data turning off when phone's locked really do help with battery life.

[RESEARCH] Zenfone 5 1.2Ghz Screen On Time

As the title said, I'm gathering some information about screen on time (SOT) of Zenfone 5 1.2Ghz (from 100 to 1-5 percent)
I want to see how my battery is after years by how much time it can handle now. Hope you guys help me.
In comment section, please including your SOT plus:
- What rom are you using? (Kernel version if can)
- Most used network: Wifi or Cellular
- Network setting: Always on or Never (Manually)
- App ram usage (Running Service in Setting/Battery or Develop Options)
Thats all I want to know for now.
Thanks!

Using stock rom Kitkat newest version, cause it uses much less battery!
I mostly use more of the Wi-Fi on always on
what is mostly using my ram is the screen ( brightness) and android
I will send more information about RAM usage later, my phone is recharging

Using 1.6ghz variant.
rom- resurrection remix nougat. but channging of roms didnt had any great impact
only wifi always on.
ram- 40-50% or below free.
sot i get varies from 2hr- 3hrs. only texting and light stuff gives around 2hr 40mins.

im using latest kitkat on my 3 years old zenfone 5 single sim variant.
this one with 100% cpu usage all time + [ full screen brightness+ bluetooth + wifi+ gps on ] from 100% to 5%;
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This one has only wifi on with full screen brightness 100% to 5%
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zeetsu said:
im using latest kitkat on my 3 years old zenpone 5 single sim.
this one with full cpu usage + [ full screen brightness+ bluetooth + wifi+ gps on ] from 100% to 5%;
This one has only wifi on and full screen brightness 100% to 5%
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How long screen on time did you get? That's quite impressive battery graph with wifi and gps always on.

nheolinkin said:
How long screen on time did you get? That's quite impressive battery graph with wifi and gps always on.
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Screen was always on in both tests. i used battery drain app to make screen always on with full brightness and wifi in second test and i get 3h45m screen time.
in first test i pushed cpu 100% and activated all gps/bluetooth/wifi etc and i get 1h53m screen time. but phone was really overheated and i scare to do it again (it was burning my hand)
actually i was shocked myself when i saw 4 h screen time when i used my phone to only read ebook all day in home with half brightness and i decided to test my phone. Results were amazing i agree, i hope it keeps that way for one more year.
i tested overnight battery usage and it dropped to 85% from 100% within 7 hours with wireless open while android sleep. i guess it might be better to close all network overnights

zeetsu said:
i tested overnight battery usage and it dropped to 85% from 100% within 7 hours with wireless open while android sleep. i guess it might be better to close all network overnights
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I wish I still kept the screenshot on Mashmallow to show you.
wireless is not the reason but the google play service. After disable a list of unneeded services, I let wireless enable all the time, gmail and other notification still can be recieved and battery drained 1% per hour (screen off). For specifically, after 6 hours over night, it will drain 6%.
screen on time is normally 3 hours but of course I have to tweak a lot to get this result. If not, battery just drains like hell.

nheolinkin said:
I wish I still kept the screenshot on Mashmallow to show you.
wireless is not the reason but the google play service. After disable a list of unneeded services, I let wireless enable all the time, gmail and other notification still can be recieved and battery drained 1% per hour (screen off). For specifically, after 6 hours over night, it will drain 6%.
screen on time is normally 3 hours but of course I have to tweak a lot to get this result. If not, battery just drains like hell.
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i tried to close wifi yesterday , as you mentioned it does not effect the drain.
3 hours sot on marshmallow is great but unfortunately i cant use custom roms cuz i need Gps occasionaly and my simcard often keep loosing signal on thoose . i am considering to get a xiaomi mi or redmi phone by next year but until that i had to use asus zf5 with kitkat 4.4.2 and 3-3.5 sot is best i can wish for.

s10+ exynos: Battery life issues.

Hello there,
I am newbie here, so please excuse me if tons of threads like mine are found across this forum, but believe me when I say i've read 'em all and I can't really work out a solution that suits me.
I've seen that people having the exynos version of s10+ deal with huge battery life problems, and so do I.
On the contrary, I've also seen screenshots of people getting 10 to 14 hours of sot on their s10+ and I really wonder how they achieve it.
First of all, I'd like to say that I've already tried all the minor tweaks like decreasing brightness, screen resolution, animations etc..
I don't really know how to use the "put apps to sleep" thing, and I'd like an opinion to that.
Anyway, I've observed that when I'm on mobile data/4G, the battery drain is insane. Like 1% per 3 minutes or so. Not that good for a smartphone at the cost of almost 1k €, huh?
These are the battery usage stats I get:
-usage by apps
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-battery usage
-android system consumption setting
So...I don't know what's causing the android system to consume such large amount of battery.
-I didn't restore from any back up when I set up my s10+ almost 2 weeks ago.
-I wiped the partition cache yesterday
-I've optimized all apps (including facebook, messenger and instagram, although I use notification glimpse to get the screen to wake up when I'm sent a message)
-Always on Display is set to "off"
-Battery saving mode is set to "optimized" with adaption pattern set to "on"
-Almost 40% brightness during most of the day
-I'm running the latest software available
-animation frames decreased to 0.5x and also reduced via settings
-location and bluetooth permanently set to "off"
-I've already read the battery optimization guide, but I don't feel like turning all the features that drove me to buy this device to "off"..There has to be another way
Please take your time to look into it and enlighten me because it's so frustrating that a 1000 euros smartphone has to be so much tweaked to produce a decent battery outcome.

SaintJimmy7 said:
Hello there,
I am newbie here, so please excuse me if tons of threads like mine are found across this forum, but believe me when I say i've read 'em all and I can't really work out a solution that suits me.
I've seen that people having the exynos version of s10+ deal with huge battery life problems, and so do I.
On the contrary, I've also seen screenshots of people getting 10 to 14 hours of sot on their s10+ and I really wonder how they achieve it.
First of all, I'd like to say that I've already tried all the minor tweaks like decreasing brightness, screen resolution, animations etc..
I don't really know how to use the "put apps to sleep" thing, and I'd like an opinion to that.
Anyway, I've observed that when I'm on mobile data/4G, the battery drain is insane. Like 1% per 3 minutes or so. Not that good for a smartphone at the cost of almost 1k €, huh?
These are the battery usage stats I get:
-usage by apps
-battery usage
-android system consumption setting
So...I don't know what's causing the android system to consume such large amount of battery.
-I didn't restore from any back up when I set up my s10+ almost 2 weeks ago.
-I wiped the partition cache yesterday
-I've optimized all apps (including facebook, messenger and instagram, although I use notification glimpse to get the screen to wake up when I'm sent a message)
-Always on Display is set to "off"
-Battery saving mode is set to "optimized" with adaption pattern set to "on"
-Almost 40% brightness during most of the day
-I'm running the latest software available
-animation frames decreased to 0.5x and also reduced via settings
-location and bluetooth permanently set to "off"
-I've already read the battery optimization guide, but I don't feel like turning all the features that drove me to buy this device to "off"..There has to be another way
Please take your time to look into it and enlighten me because it's so frustrating that a 1000 euros smartphone has to be so much tweaked to produce a decent battery outcome.
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First of all. Your battery stats aren't bad at all. 20h on battery with 4 hours and 30 mins screen on and 32% remaining. :laugh:
You managed those stats with 4g only? That would be just perfect
10h of screen on is possible if you just stay on the phone after you unplug it.(did it myself) but only wifi and indoors brightness(@30%)

They are bad. Android systen usage is too high. Mine is about 7-8 % over 20 hours.
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Gogolakis said:
First of all. Your battery stats aren't bad at all. 20h on battery with 4 hours and 30 mins screen on and 32% remaining. :laugh:
You managed those stats with 4g only? That would be just perfect
10h of screen on is possible if you just stay on the phone after you unplug it.(did it myself) but only wifi and indoors brightness(@30%)
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I had 4G open (whether the phone was idle or active & messaging etc) about 5 to 7 hours in total. Can't be totally sure. The rest of the day I either used WiFi or no internet connection at all.
The battery since the last charge lasted 25h with Android system draining 22% of it. That fkn huge. I don't know what's causing it. I just tried to restrict it from running to background, but the adaptive power option keeps re-enabling it.. xD
vojopd said:
They are bad. Android systen usage is too high. Mine is about 7-8 % over 20 hours.
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Yeah, I've noticed, I'm asking if there's a way to fix it or find what's causing this and then fix it.

There is plenty of things to turn off because of android system high usage. Install battery gsam monitor, grant adb permissions then you will see what drains youe battery.
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So what app should I use to see what's draining my battery and what's causing android system to drain almost 30% of battery per charging circle?

I'm getting 4 hrs of average SOT on 4G with youtube, some browsing, calls with standby time of about 15hrs.
But on Wifi SOT is 7+ hrs.