Sprint 4g in Detroit - Networking

When?!?! Does anyone have any idea if they even plan on having it here? I love how they advertise that they are the nations favorite 4g network, but they seem to have the least amount of coverage, and even their 3g signal here is pretty week. The only place in Michigan that has 4g is Grand Rapids, and that's almost 3 hours from Drtroit. Seems stupid to come to the state and not put it in the Detroit area. Verizon, ATT, & T-Mobile all have 4g coverage here. What is Sprint's major malfunction? Of course they have the weakest selection of phones too. Always seem a step behind everyone else.
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4G is basically at a standstill for Sprint right now. The company deploying the service only has funds to keep the lights on... No more building. Basically Sprint is suppressing them to get a better stock price and most likely buy them out.

Sprint actually does have 4g in a few places here in Detroit,they just dont advertise it yet because they don't have the network finished yet. Go to sensorly.com and look at the actual coverage maps. I was connected to 4g in warren yesterday on my evo.

You do know that sprint is supposed to be switching from Wimax to LTE. That will goof things up big time.
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msnuser111 said:
Sprint actually does have 4g in a few places here in Detroit,they just dont advertise it yet because they don't have the network finished yet. Go to sensorly.com and look at the actual coverage maps. I was connected to 4g in warren yesterday on my evo.
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Thanks for the site. I just looked at it and am disappointed. I am just outside the coverage on there also. If only I lived a few miles to the East. I would be all set.

I use clear.com/coverage. They also have an app.

Here is the Sprint WiMax tower which has about 6 mile radius. Clocked 3.5Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up 200 feet from it. You can see the two 180 deg dishes pointing in both directions in this street view.

Here is the other in Centerline on Chrysler grounds. I haven't confirm it but from the clear.com website radius, center location would be in this spot. And here is the dish from the street view.

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WTF!!! Calling anyone in CT that can connect to 4G

So today I was trying to kill my battery after wiping all data to rebuild the battery stats and randomly turned on 4G to help kill the battery, but found that it connected to Clearwire, rather than Sprint. Now I will have to drive around and try and locate the broadcast point.
I live in Wolcott, CT and small town in New Haven County that boarders Hartford County, next to Waterbury. This was a fluke that I turned on 4G but was surprised to see that it connected.
My speeds are crap but have gotten it up to 6mbps down, nothing better than 3G upload speeds though ~0.33mbps up.
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I live in stamford, no luck with 4g here.
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So today I was trying to kill my battery after wiping all data to rebuild the battery stats and randomly turned on 4G to help kill the battery, but found that it connected to Clearwire, rather than Sprint. Now I will have to drive around and try and locate the broadcast point.
I live in Wolcott, CT and small town in New Haven County that boarders Hartford County, next to Waterbury. This was a fluke that I turned on 4G but was surprised to see that it connected.
My speeds are crap but have gotten it up to 6mbps down, nothing better than 3G upload speeds though ~0.33mbps up.
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i see your 4g bars, dont seem to much!
Sprint and Clearwire
I thought Sprint used Clearwire's WiMax network. (i.e. Sprint 4G is really a rebranded Clearwire WiMax) Not to mention Sprint owns the majority interest in Clearwire.
In Orange County California I came across a small pocket of 4G coverage. The weak signal only allowed about 1.65 Mbs down and 0.48 up which is far below the 4G spec but better than the usual 3G (altho also below the 3G spec).
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I thought Sprint used Clearwire's WiMax network. (i.e. Sprint 4G is really a rebranded Clearwire WiMax) Not to mention Sprint owns the majority interest in Clearwire.
In Orange County California I came across a small pocket of 4G coverage. The weak signal only allowed about 1.65 Mbs down and 0.48 up which is far below the 4G spec but better than the usual 3G (altho also below the 3G spec).
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Clearwire is Sprint's 4G provider. I have just never seen Clearwire listed as the ISP while in labeled 4G areas thats all...
What I find funny is Clearwire does not list any active broadcast location in CT, so I wonder why I am picking anything up...
A quick google finds that Clearwire is hiring in the Hartford, CT area. Everyone from customer support to RF Engineers. Perhaps you were close to their Hartford location.
last time I was in hartford (at the club lol) I got like 3-4 bars of 4G, it was AWESOME! That's the only place I've ever had 4g, since I live in the springfield area (I wouldn't give my city, that's just stupid. Even though I use my real name as my username and you could easily find me via google. lol)
anyways I was getting like 8mbps down and 2-3mbps up
That's pretty cool and all, but do you really want to post a map to your home on the internet?
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A quick google finds that Clearwire is hiring in the Hartford, CT area. Everyone from customer support to RF Engineers. Perhaps you were close to their Hartford location.
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Hartford is about 20-25 miles away from Wolcott, but I have noticed that they were hiring here.
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last time I was in hartford (at the club lol) I got like 3-4 bars of 4G, it was AWESOME! That's the only place I've ever had 4g, since I live in the springfield area (I wouldn't give my city, that's just stupid. Even though I use my real name as my username and you could easily find me via google. lol)
anyways I was getting like 8mbps down and 2-3mbps up
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That's pretty cool and all, but do you really want to post a map to your home on the internet?
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I'm really not that worried, user name is my real name, and if you or anyone else really feels the need to come visit me have at it... Nothing a quick search on the internet wouldn't pull up anyways.
Im in manchester, I tracked down the tower...right in back of the sprint store...got nearly 12mbit on mobile speed test...at my house 1.5 miles away I couldn't even get a signal. I think its in low-power test mode. The signal drops like a rock as you drive away...what's wimax range? I thought it was many many miles, 20 to 30 if you still had a good line of sight....?
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Im in manchester, I tracked down the tower...right in back of the sprint store...got nearly 12mbit on mobile speed test...at my house 1.5 miles away I couldn't even get a signal. I think its in low-power test mode. The signal drops like a rock as you drive away...what's wimax range? I thought it was many many miles, 20 to 30 if you still had a good line of sight....?
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I will track down the broadcast point. There are a couple large cell towers in my area that I will start with.
I found the broadcast point, it was were I thought it would be, top of route 69. Was getting almost 11mbps down and around 1.5mbps up. Kind of weird that there is 4G in this area now.
I had 1 bar in new haven not to long ago and got a little over 4 mbps down and about 1 mbps up.
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Hello everyone. Found this post searching around and figured I would join this great forum.
I found out earlier today that 4g service was started up in Waterbury. I saw that the OP is in wolcott. Flip on ur 4G and give it a minute to set up.
With speedtest.net Im getting an average of 9.25 down and 1.75 up.
The internet flies on this phone at those speeds. Web pages load in a second or so compared to 10 secs on 3g.
Finally we get our 10 bucks out of the deal, lol.
4g is all over newhaven and hartford
It's also available in stamford, ct - there is a tower on the TOP of the new Trump building.
Just google "4g stamford" or "4g your town here"
download the sensorly app on your phone and you can see real time reports of it down to road level.
You have to zoom in on this link before it gets accurate
http://www.sensorly.com/Map/4G/USA/Sprint/wimax-sp
nobody tried sensorly?
That sensorly map seems to be inaccurate for me at my current location, it says I should have 4g coverage but I do not. Back at home in seattle though I do have 4g almost everywhere so I am used to having it.
Edit: I stand corrected by the fact that if you download the app and zoom in really close (better then you can on the website) it shows I do not have coverage.
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I get 4G throughout E.Hartford and Manchester. None in Glastonbury though. I get 5-8 Down in E.Ha.
There are pockets of 4g in Rocky Hill & Newington. Conveniently, the Newington Sprint Store has 4g coverage ;-)

Sprint EPIC "4G Service" Useless Indoors

At my home in Haverhill, MA it works like a charm outside....full boat signal and it flies speed wise.
Walk in the house and the signal drops to a fragile connection.
Assuming it was just a fluke at my house, I tried it this morning in Boston as well while going to a project meeting.
Same thing...wonderful signal outside with great up and down speeds....walk indoors and POOF...it's gone.
What good is it if it only works OUTDOORS?
Are others finding this issue as well?
I have started a thread on the SPRINT website about this as well since it seems that SPRINT actually does monitor those threads and gives them attention...
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/44204
That's because WiMax operates on a 2.5GHz band, which is terrible for penetrating structures and solid materials. This has to do with the wavelength being used -the waves are more likely to be blocked/absorbed by particles in the material than to diffract around them.
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That's because WiMax operates on a 2.5GHz band, which is terrible for penetrating structures and solid materials. This has to do with the wavelength being used -the waves are more likely to be blocked/absorbed by particles in the material than to diffract around them.
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QFT - they should have used a licensed band of radio spectrum. Oh well, I'll never see 4G at my house anyway.
Here in Las Vegas, the Clear 4G market has been active for over a year. I have full 4G bars at home, inside and out. I have 1-2 bars of 4G at work, inside and 3-4 bars, outside. I had the Clear service until Sprint came out with these Epic 4G phones.
Have you used the Sprint tool to monitor 4G coverage for your area? The green cloud is pretty accurate in showing exactly where you get only outside coverage and where you get inside building coverage as well. I can attest to it's accuracy. My home in Texas is barely in the outside green coverage and no inside coverage at all. My son verified that he cannot get the signal indoors, but can get it outdoors.
As the market matures in MA, you will see more towers "turned on" to provide better 4G coverage. That did happen here in Vegas!
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QFT - they should have used a licensed band of radio spectrum. Oh well, I'll never see 4G at my house anyway.
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2.5 Ghz is licensed spectrum. Perhaps you're thinking of 2.4 Ghz?
Ditto on Vegas being great on 4g coverage... I was out there for a week... stayed on the 12th floor and all the way down to the casino I had screamin fast internet... I just wish sprint would pick up the pace on LA - OC coverage... suppoedly wimax towers were going to be put on every walmart, wonder if that's still gonna happen
Awkwardly, the evo never had the issue.. I did notice one thing, the power of the signal is weak but that's cause it might not be an official band.
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I live in a "4G" city, and I am disappointed. According to Sprint's coverage maps I'm supposed to have 4G inside my home, but I don't. Also, driving even on freeways has dead pockets.
That forces me back to 3G, which on the Epic has well-documented poor performance, especially on uploads.
I do get decent 4G indoors in a downtown office. When 4G is hot, it's hot -- about twice the 3G speeds I got with T-Mobile's HSPA+ on a Vibrant. But T-Mobile's 3G service is more consistent, with better infill coverage and indoor penetration. Overall, I think I got better real-life service with the #4 carrier. I may go back.
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I live in a "4G" city, and I am disappointed. According to Sprint's coverage maps I'm supposed to have 4G inside my home, but I don't. Also, driving even on freeways has dead pockets.
That forces me back to 3G, which on the Epic has well-documented poor performance, especially on uploads.
I do get decent 4G indoors in a downtown office. When 4G is hot, it's hot -- about twice the 3G speeds I got with T-Mobile's HSPA+ on a Vibrant. But T-Mobile's 3G service is more consistent, with better infill coverage and indoor penetration. Overall, I think I got better real-life service with the #4 carrier. I may go back.
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Im getting the Epic today in the mail, and ive already been missing tmob. The vibrant did get great speeds and in a wider coverage area. If im dissatisfied with the service in two weeks, ill just get another vibrant.
I live in Vegas and the WiMAX service sucks the big one. You can't maintain a connection while driving and because data doesn't smoothly transition, you get horrible data service. It's the outdoors network. Suburbs, no 4G, buildings without a 4G tower perched up next to it, no 4G.. driving down the street, no 4G. It's really poor. Sprint 3G coverage is ok, but the 4G is just plain horrible and there are no signs of it improving soon. They've colocated on all of the towers they can, so they will be building new ones if they want better coverage and as of right now cash is low at Clear.
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Have you used the Sprint tool to monitor 4G coverage for your area? The green cloud is pretty accurate in showing exactly where you get only outside coverage and where you get inside building coverage as well. I can attest to it's accuracy. My home in Texas is barely in the outside green coverage and no inside coverage at all. My son verified that he cannot get the signal indoors, but can get it outdoors.
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I'm a little surprised the network is "launched" in DC, where it's so spotty I cannot get coverage at work (south of Dupont Circle) or at home (Waterfront) despite what the Clear map shows. Very frustrating.
even worse for me..im in an area that says "inside connection" and is dark blue..yet every time i turn on 4g.it will try to connect..then it may connect..and as soon as i pick up the damn phone..i get a "4g disconnected"..ish sucks man..very dissapointed
Here's a little one about how sprints gonna drum up a lil more money and help out good ol #4 in the process http://www.mobiledia.com/news/73500.html
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T-Mobile isn't doing anything 4G until 2012. They've already stated it. To help out number #4 you'd actually have to be the one able to give the help. Sprint isn't building a 4G network for a reason. They can't afford to. Sprint is only #3 because of Nextel, a horrible purchase.
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I'm a little surprised the network is "launched" in DC, where it's so spotty I cannot get coverage at work (south of Dupont Circle) or at home (Waterfront) despite what the Clear map shows. Very frustrating.
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DC isn't an official 4g market Sprintwise so don't blame them yet.. I know there's service and I am also from the area and felt comfortable paying extra because I knew there was some service, but no point in complaining if Sprint hasn't advertised your city.
Buyer beware! For some reason Richmond, VA is covered...
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4G in Gainesville, FL

So, upon visiting a local Sprint store to attempt to preorder a Nexus S 4G, I was waiting for a Sprint rep to not be busy. This gave me time to look at the EVO on display (mainly because I wanted to compare my awesome Gingerbread to stock Froyo ).
I looked at the statusbar, and I noticed a 4G icon with some service...I instantly enabled 4G on my phone and was stoked because I highly doubted Gainesville would ever get 4G, so this made me think that only the Sprint store was broadcasting a small 4G signal to demonstrate the speeds to customers (pretty unlikely, I know), but upon leaving, I drove a few miles away, and still, I had full 4G service. As long as I am not in an area with an excessive amount of trees, I have decent service...soo happy
I guess I am one of the few using this service, because I have some pretty decent speeds for WiMax (about 2x what I have gotten in Tampa).
www.clear.com/coverage and zoom in random towers are popping up all over the county. Its "Clear on the go" coverage...
awesome i never thought they would have it there i live in tampa so i know how gainesville is crongrats!
you just made my day, been at UF all this time with my EVO and no 4G
LMAO i cant believe you guys didn't even try it i usually test everything where ever i go to see what i can connect to lol.
After months and months of nothing, you sort of give up on it. At least that's how I have been. But that Clear coverage link jefbal99 posted says there might be some a few miles away (Peoria, IL area). I'll have to drive to that area and see what I can get. But, even with zooming in, no antenna icons ever show up on the map, just light green. Maybe it's not as hopeless as I had figured.
Which Sprint store were you at when you connected?
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After months and months of nothing, you sort of give up on it. At least that's how I have been. But that Clear coverage link jefbal99 posted says there might be some a few miles away (Peoria, IL area). I'll have to drive to that area and see what I can get. But, even with zooming in, no antenna icons ever show up on the map, just light green. Maybe it's not as hopeless as I had figured.
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The light green areas don't list the towers, just coverage. I can verify that every place I've been with light green gets 4G connection.
If you are on a Sense ROM, here is a good thread with info on making 4G connect with a weaker signal and stay connected longer. I used is successfully before my switch to CM7
Are you reporting 4G on the uf campus?
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I'm glad we finally got coverage in UF... what sucks is that they're using such a high frequency for the WiMax service. The signal just bounces off the walls and doesn't penetrate well into the buildings, especially the concrete UF buildings.
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Which Sprint store were you at when you connected?
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The one in Butler Plaza.
The best signal is south of campus, with strongest being on most of Archer. Haven't tried out towards Newberry yet..
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Are you reporting 4G on the uf campus?
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Campus is spotty with it...because of the buildings and the mini-forests we have, but slightly south of the Reitz, towards Hume, I was getting service.
Thanks for the info. Just checked the map and I have 4G in Palm Bay,Fl. Went outside my house and I connected to 4G. WOOHOO. Bout Damn time.
Nothing up on NW 13th street yet.
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The best signal is south of campus, with strongest being on most of Archer.
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This has also been my experience with 3G in Gainesville.
Edit: Just looked at Clear's coverage map. It looks like they're covering some of Gainesville, as well as Newberry and Ocala.
Saw Ocala on the map too. Haven't been able to get a lock yet.
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Nothing up on NW 13th street yet.
This has also been my experience with 3G in Gainesville.
Edit: Just looked at Clear's coverage map. It looks like they're covering some of Gainesville, as well as Newberry and Ocala.
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dude u made me have faith, i mean i live in ocala, fl but if gainsville gets it im hoping ocala goes next in line lol
I've got spotty 4G in Ocala, FL. 1.1M down 250K up
Gainesville 4G confirmed as well!
BOUT DAMN TIME, SPRINT! Great to see my $10/month going to use!
If you don't mind me asking -- whereabouts in Ocala are you seeing 4G?
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I've got spotty 4G in Ocala, FL. 1.1M down 250K up
Gainesville 4G confirmed as well!
BOUT DAMN TIME, SPRINT! Great to see my $10/month going to use!
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[Q] 4G Available In Your Area?

Because I've been noticing that 4G is popping up in different areas without any sort of notification, I was thinking that we could all post here of areas that have 4G but have not been announced to the public.
I've noticed 4G in Norfolk VA in the Ghent area, and near Portsmouth Naval Hospital for starters.
Check http://www.clear.com/coverage for where 4G (WiMAX) access is available. It's not always publicised when new sites are implemented, but they will show up on the map.
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Check http://www.clear.com/coverage for where 4G (WiMAX) access is available. It's not always publicised when new sites are implemented, but they will show up on the map.
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I checked that map, it looks pretty good, but I'm not really sure, it is showing areas that should be active 4g locations, but I'm getting nothing in those areas... So really I guess what I was trying to get out of this thread was a place that people can post known active 4g (well at lest known to the poster) locations to help others know if 4g is active near them. A map is nice, but we all know that those mappings can definitely be off.
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Understood, the coverage is spotty.
Works pretty good here in Jacksonville,Fl. Pretty big city so it is spotty in some areas though :/
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Theres coverage here in Green Bay Wisconsin where i live granted it is very spotty theres still hope!
There is coverage here in Gurnee Illinois but its very spotty. It's funny the clearwire and sprint coverage map shows 4G in/near my house, but I can't connect to it until I drive around 5-6 Blocks then it pops up but soon as you go further down the street its gone.
Ive gotten pretty good coverage here in burbank, ca for about a year. Also had decent coverage when i visited sacramento.
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I'm supposed to have 4g at my house in Columbus Ohio according to the maps but I take my Evo outside and guess what no 4g even standing in the middle of my street.
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yeah just check clear.com maps. They seem to be updated weekly. The plan is for a bunch of single towers in towns to show the FCC they are using their licenses.
The maps are geared towards the clear devices that have better antennas than the ones crammed into our handsets.
I've had excellent 4g coverage here in Vegas/Henderson for as long as I've had my Evo. I love it
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I will be visiting the Lakewood NJ area keenly this weekend, does anyone know if 4g is up in that area?
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I received that sprint premier email recently and it said 4g was in my area, sure enough it was NOT! I called sprint and the guy just kept telling me VERY soon. I asked him if there is a ETA or something like that and all he kept saying VERY soon! My zip is 11714.
I live in Roanoke, Va. And we don't have it and probably never will. T-mobile is the only on here with 4g and they have the worst coverage of the big 4...and they don't even have a store here...you have to go to wal-mart or radioshack to buy one of their phones...I hate Virginia...
Kalamazoo, MI has 1 tower near Western MI U campus....can connect to it for a 2nd near portage but it is very limited basically to the westside of town. But will be nice for Football games in the falls as it does cover the stadium.
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I live in Roanoke, Va. And we don't have it and probably never will. T-mobile is the only on here with 4g and they have the worst coverage of the big 4...and they don't even have a store here...you have to go to wal-mart or radioshack to buy one of their phones...I hate Virginia...
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There should be some coverage down by Mill Racer Dr. Soon, should be down by Cleavland Ave.
Just wanted to give you some hope.
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I live in Roanoke, Va. And we don't have it and probably never will. T-mobile is the only on here with 4g and they have the worst coverage of the big 4...and they don't even have a store here...you have to go to wal-mart or radioshack to buy one of their phones...I hate Virginia...
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I can't disagree about VA, I'm actually here from CA, and its like 2 different worlds, but just some advice, AT&T just bought T-mobile, sooooo, if you go with T-mobile, your service is going to get alot worse... Also the 4g in my area was in no way advertised, I just happened to find it, cuz my 4g was on, and all the sudden it connected.
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All major (VZ, AT&T, T-Mobile) wireless carriers in Phoenix, AZ (5TH LARGEST CITY IN THE US) are 4G except Sprint. Only about 4 sq. mi of 4G in the whole metro/valley area. SAD!
Says that I am supposed to have coverage in NW Austin, TX but only get 1 bar or so.. and only if i'm outside. No coverage in buildings
Sprint 4g in Hampton Roads!
Yes, I live near W. Mercury Blvd. Near Jefferson Ave. in Southern Virginia (Newport News, Va.) and I get a pretty good 4G signal. But once I leave that area......let's say 1 to 2 miles is goes back to 3G. Something is going on in the area. Hopefully all will be online fully in the coming weeks!

Memphis Has 4G! Its Official!

i think the downtown area has had it for a while, but finally i can get a (very low signal) right here inside my home (hickory hill area). There must be a second clearwire tower somewhere around here. The speed of course sucks, i got this speed when 3g was released 4-5 years ago. :\
myns rls 5 with PRI 1.90_003, PRL 01115, RADIO 2.15.00.11.19
i plan on trying the new leaked radio/rom to see if signal gets better, but i doubt it. is it worth the try??
Are you sure about this? I live downtown and I can't get a signal. Sprint doesn't list Memphis as covered. I know Clearwire covers here, but they don't sell plans here yet.
I hope so I will be back there in two weeks for the bbq contest
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update: i found the 4G tower.. its being broadcasted from my local sprint tower a couple blocks away.
heres screenshots of the max speeds i was getting at full/semi full bars
the location of the tower is at knight arnold and perkins, on top of the teachers credit union building.
CoolWaters said:
Are you sure about this? I live downtown and I can't get a signal. Sprint doesn't list Memphis as covered. I know Clearwire covers here, but they don't sell plans here yet.
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Go by Clear.com coverage map, Sprint only shows official cities and even then they rarely update it. Wimax is open, so wherever Clear shows coverage you can use it.
You're right. I get a very, very weak 4g signal in a few parts of downtown. It isn't consistent enough to use reliably and I don't get it at all in my condo.

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