Toggle cell radio independent from mobile data? - EVO 4G General

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jakeordie said:
I have an Evo running CM7 on the SRDO plan, my phone is very rarely used to make or receive calls. I would like to be able to turn the cell radio off while keeping the mobile data active, if this is possible. Please let me know if there is a way to do this, preferably with a toggle widget but I'll consider a more complex solution if need be. Thanks in advance.
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You can turn mobile data off and have the phone on but I've never heard of a way to turn the phone off and use mobile data.
Unless its pure wifi and which you CAN use in airplane mode.

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You can change how often it polls the towers but data and voice are done with the same radio. It just switches over to 1x instead of 3g to talk.

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4g-3g-2g save battery

Is there any way that you can turn off the 3g to save battery because on other android phones like the g1 it allows to turn off the 3g and seeing this is the first 4g phone EVEERRRRRR!!! i think it should have some way to turn off the 3g capability to save battery,,any suggestions
You are able to turn off 3G completely by going to Apps>Settings>Wireless Networks>Uncheck Mobile Network
yea but there gotta b a way without disabling the internet
No way because voice and data are 2 separate signals and cant be used simultaneously. The 3g is the thing that kills the battery because it is always looking for a better signal. If you turn that off, voice will stay at "1x", thus saving battery and you can still receive sms and mms

EVO gets stuck roaming

At my work I get 0-1 bars of Sprint service, and my phone often roams onto Verizon (we have dozens of Verizon repeaters in our building). The problem is that quite frequently lately it will get stuck in roaming mode and never switch back to a Sprint tower. I have 6 bars of Sprint service at home, but it will remain in roaming mode. I have the newest PRL (60670), and the old PRI (1.34_003).
Anyone else ever experience this? Any idea what I can do to fix it?
I have had this happen in the past as well. What I did was go into settings and change the roaming option to "Sprint Only" which forces the phone to switch back to the Sprint network. Then you can change the roaming option back to "Automatic".
I get this a lot as well. I've started to make a habit of turning on airplane mode, then turning it back off... when it scans for signal it will go back to Sprint.
Sorry if i'm stealing this thread. Is it pretty bad if my phone has to go in roaming to get signal in most my house? I've seen the threads about people getting a airwave because they get dropped calls, but since i have to roam in more than half my house, does it seem possible i could get one from sprint?
And my house is in the middle of town, if you go outside there's 4g, but not inside.
fastamx79 said:
I get this a lot as well. I've started to make a habit of turning on airplane mode, then turning it back off... when it scans for signal it will go back to Sprint.
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Same here, I just toggle airplane mode on and off.
Same thing on my EVO. It'll roam when it should but it won't switch back to Sprint when it should.
I chatted with Sprint asking why this happens. They just said I have free roaming. No reason why.
Yep, My Evo has been doing this as well. Been doing the airplane toggle trick. Thought about just leaving it, but was thinking that it may burn my battery faster? Anyone have any thoughts on that..
My PRL is also 60670, but I have the 1.71_003 PRI.
Guys if you have any type of active data connection the phone will not drop the roaming.
I roam at work too and if i turn on Aonline radio, tjen get in my car and drive, so long as the radio streaming is going iy will never drop the roaming.
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Messed with the phone again tonight. Got stuck roaming again. I was not transmitting anything, and even ATK'd everything to make sure. Who knows, not really a big deal, unless I am eating more battery.
v_lestat said:
Guys if you have any type of active data connection the phone will not drop the roaming.
I roam at work too and if i turn on Aonline radio, tjen get in my car and drive, so long as the radio streaming is going iy will never drop the roaming.
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That makes perfect sense. I sync with my Exchange server at work and the way EAS works is a constant connection between the client and server. One question though. Has your phone switched back to your carrier with no data connection?
Yeah just disable always-on data or cycle airplane mode to make it switch back. As long ad its maintaining a data connection it will wait to switch back from roaming so it doesn't unnecessarily disturb your connection if you're in a poor service area. It shouldn't be using any more battery.
Also, atk is bad.

STOP taking the Network Mode away AT&T!!!

I love my new Galaxy S III, but once again I have no way to force HSPA+ only. I need this option while my phone sits in my desk all day. If I can turn LTE off then I can save battery life and still get calls/texts/emails.
STOP IT AT&T, JUST STOP IT!!! Your really starting to really aggravate your customers by not allowing them to select their preferred network.
I want the network mode option in mobile networks:
GSM/HSPA/LTE (Auto)
GSM/HSPA (Auto)
HSPA (only)
GSM (only)
STOP taking this off all your phones. Every other GSM carrier in the world allows this except you!!!
I hope ALL developers add this toggle in all the upcoming roms.
Your best bet until this is added/fixed, is to turn on wi-fi mode and turn off the mobile data connection.
That way you still can make calls, and have the wifi as your data, and if its off it wont use as much power as HSPA/LTE.
mastarifla said:
Your best bet until this is added/fixed, is to turn on wi-fi mode and turn off the mobile data connection.
That way you still can make calls, and have the wifi as your data, and if its off it wont use as much power as HSPA/LTE.
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I think you kind of missed the point...
Let's say your at work all day and you don't use your phone much? Let's say your phone gets 1 bar of LTE and 4 of HSPA+. The signal constantly fluctuates ultimately leading to a dead battery much faster.
Wouldn't it be great to just turn LTE off? That way my phone gets a better signal and uses less battery life. Not to mention, I can still receive calls, texts, and e-mails, whereas airplane mode disables everything.
Wi-Fi isn't available everywhere.
PS: AT&T ain't adding ****, they released their first LTE device in November of 2011 and it also lacked this option.
I think you missed the point as well
The reason for turning on wi-fi is to direct the data connection to something other than the chip used for HSPA/LTE. I'm not looking to use the wi-fi connection as an alternative data source. I'm using it to prevent as much battery drain as possible whenever I am not using the phone.
It essentially IS turning off LTE, but it also is turning off your data, and if you don't have wi-fi then you wont have a data connection, but if you do then you will.
Airplane mode is just taking it a step further and blocking calls as well.
So there's no way to turn off LTE? Even via a 4g/3g toggle from the app store?
916x10 said:
So there's no way to turn off LTE? Even via a 4g/3g toggle from the app store?
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Nope, that's not how it worked on the HTC One X... even dialer codes would just reset on exiting. LTE stays on for some stupid reason with ATT.
A bet a toggle with root requirements will come out later./
mastarifla said:
I think you missed the point as well
The reason for turning on wi-fi is to direct the data connection to something other than the chip used for HSPA/LTE. I'm not looking to use the wi-fi connection as an alternative data source. I'm using it to prevent as much battery drain as possible whenever I am not using the phone.
It essentially IS turning off LTE, but it also is turning off your data, and if you don't have wi-fi then you wont have a data connection, but if you do then you will.
Airplane mode is just taking it a step further and blocking calls as well.
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Ok? What if you don't have Wifi and your in a very spotty LTE area with fluctuating signal?
Nevertheless, we need the toggle!!!
What about an APN switcher, would that work?
916x10 said:
What about an APN switcher, would that work?
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Nope, many have tried this but it doesn't stick. We need AT&T to add the option under mobile networks.
MattMJB0188 said:
Ok? What if you don't have Wifi and your in a very spotty LTE area with fluctuating signal?
Nevertheless, we need the toggle!!!
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Then it would be best to turn off the Wi-fi and the Mobile Data connection, the only reason I have the Wi-fi on is if I'm in an area that has it (home, work, at&t hotspot) otherwise it is automatically turned off (I think?).
And I agree completely, I would love that feature, but until that time we have to make due with what we have, this is my solution, it isn't perfect but it works for me.
mastarifla said:
Then it would be best to turn off the Wi-fi and the Mobile Data connection, the only reason I have the Wi-fi on is if I'm in an area that has it (home, work, at&t hotspot) otherwise it is automatically turned off (I think?).
And I agree completely, I would love that feature, but until that time we have to make due with what we have, this is my solution, it isn't perfect but it works for me.
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Yes, but like I said turning off mobile data completely turns off the data connection, whereas with this toggle we can change it to EDGE or HSPA+ only, still having a data connection.
I agree I like turning on edge only when I'm at work and home
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I'm just hoping developers starting adding the GSM toggle via Mobile networks in their custom roms.
AT&T NEVER WILL!!!
It could be the sim card. I have a SIM card from 2007. The network toggle still works on my Thrill. Someone put a newer SIM card in their Thrill and the network toggle is gone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326760 post 27
cproaudio said:
It could be the sim card. I have a SIM card from 2007. The network toggle still works on my Thrill. Someone put a newer SIM card in their Thrill and the network toggle is gone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326760 post 27
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And you hit the nail on the head. It's actually a mix of SIM Card and Radio. What we need is the canadian version of our radio and we will have it back.
Erm would juice defender not fix this? I still get texts and calls but it turns off my data.. plus its free! ( i bought the ultimate though)
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benefit14snake said:
Erm would juice defender not fix this? I still get texts and calls but it turns off my data.. plus its free! ( i bought the ultimate though)
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i guess technically it could since it turns off everything (Except calls) and turns it all back on every 15 minutes to check if anything was received on Att servers.
But if hes waiting for an important text or something, it would come delayed until juice defender decided to retrieve it.
not a bad idea though.
Here's an idea, since your at a desk all day, invest $1.32 on monoprice into a USB cable and charge your phone...
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doctorTJ said:
i guess technically it could since it turns off everything (Except calls) and turns it all back on every 15 minutes to check if anything was received on Att servers.
But if hes waiting for an important text or something, it would come delayed until juice defender decided to retrieve it.
not a bad idea though.
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I believe it just turns off 3g and 4g on verizon. My calls and texts are instant. Also, if you buy the app you can change frequency. Mine syncs every hour or two. It may be different with att since verizon handles their 4g in kind of a silly way.
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bloodrain954 said:
Here's an idea, since your at a desk all day, invest $1.32 on monoprice into a USB cable and charge your phone...
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You mean cycle it twice as much as necessary since AT&T has removed the functionality that's needed? :good:

[Q] any way to kill the gsm radio, but keep data?

I don't call, and when I do, I voip. Is there any way to leave the HSPA/EDGE on while killing the battery consuming radios that take cellular calls? I wondered this while looking at the *#*#4636#*#* menu.
oldarney said:
I don't call, and when I do, I voip. Is there any way to leave the HSPA/EDGE on while killing the battery consuming radios that take cellular calls? I wondered this while looking at the *#*#4636#*#* menu.
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It's the same radio so no you can't save power by disabling it.
I'm not sure how cellular works, but I can imagine that having push call notifications would require my phone to scream to the towers often. I wonder then, could we make a program that enables radio only when programs try to connect, like airplane mode on sleep.
If you need battery life, look for it elsewhere. The solution you are looking for isn't possible
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zephiK said:
If you need battery life, look for it elsewhere. The solution you are looking for isn't possible
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Doesn't the nexus 7 3G already do something nifty to cut the power consumption of data? It has the same battery and it lasts just as long as the WiFi model.
oldarney said:
I'm not sure how cellular works, but I can imagine that having push call notifications would require my phone to scream to the towers often. I wonder then, could we make a program that enables radio only when programs try to connect, like airplane mode on sleep.
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I haven't used it in a while, but I think juice defender ultimate is able to do that. It is a couple dollars from the Play Store for the ultimate version.
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oldarney said:
I don't call, and when I do, I voip. Is there any way to leave the HSPA/EDGE on while killing the battery consuming radios that take cellular calls? I wondered this while looking at the *#*#4636#*#* menu.
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Both data and voice use the 2G radio and/or the 3G radio. (LTE is data only.) So, you can't just "shut off" voice and keep data (unless you use LTE).
The N4 essentially has 3 radios: a 2G radio (GSM/GPRS), a 3G radio (WCDMA), and an LTE radio. What you can do, is turn 1 or 2 of them off so that you are using only 2G or only 3G, or only LTE (if you are in an area where your service provider uses LTE on the AWS band). Turning off the LTE radio (off by default) certainly saves battery, but I don't think you will get that much more savings by turning off the 2G radio.
As mentioned before, it's all the same. That's like wanting to save gas by turning off the engine but still get where you are going. There's no seperate radio for data/voice. Basically WIFI is your "turn off voice but still have data" only option.

data roaming wtf charged

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/azn_dan/Screenshot_2013-07-31-19-04-31.png
any ideas what data roaming feature does if it doesn't switch data roaming off?
ripped85 said:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/azn_dan/Screenshot_2013-07-31-19-04-31.png
any ideas what data roaming feature does if it doesn't switch data roaming off?
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Considering you're on Wifi, you're not on cellular data at all. You would otherwise have a second symbol shown that would tell you the data connection type (i.e. 4G, H+, H, E, or G).
In this particular screenshot, I would say that you are on voice roaming with WiFi data.
I totally got charged for data even though I was on wi-fi. no one called me and i didn't get any text messages. Fido has told me that in order to not get charged for data both data services and roaming would have to be off which makes no sense to me.
Aou said:
Considering you're on Wifi, you're not on cellular data at all. You would otherwise have a second symbol shown that would tell you the data connection type (i.e. 4G, H+, H, E, or G).
In this particular screenshot, I would say that you are on voice roaming with WiFi data.
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ripped85 said:
I totally got charged for data even though I was on wi-fi. no one called me and i didn't get any text messages. Fido has told me that in order to not get charged for data both data services and roaming would have to be off which makes no sense to me.
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Sounds pretty bogus to me.
I guess somehow the device is still using data while WiFi is on? If so, that's silly. I guess if you want to be certain, you could indeed turn off mobile data. At least there's a toggle for it on the notification bar. *shrug*
Aou said:
Sounds pretty bogus to me.
I guess somehow the device is still using data while WiFi is on? If so, that's silly. I guess if you want to be certain, you could indeed turn off mobile data. At least there's a toggle for it on the notification bar. *shrug*
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oh well i guess i won't trust the stupid phone i'll just use airplane mode when i'm gone on vacation so i don' t come back home with a FAT bill lol
I believe texting uses data over the network when checking for incoming texts as well, even if one was never received.

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