Ok so here is the thing, I am buying either the Play or the Arc cash in about a week. So 3 Questions:
1. Is the Play screen Mineral Glass under the "Shatter proof sheet"?
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2. Should I buy this over the Arc? I am thinking about all the great Emulators and a few PSone games (FF7 anyone?)
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3. How is the build quality in your opinion? I was thinking the White Play would look Nice but is the finish nice and in your opinion does it look high end or cheap?
Thanks guys, I have been struggling with this decision for over a month : /
Afaik, it's mineral glass. I use a screen protector to reduce fingerprints and glare though.
Personally, I am loving the emulators, and the non-emu games are nice too.
However, if you don't reeeally love gaming, the arc is a better overall choice.
Edit: forgot to mention that the back cover feels a bit thin, but overall build is good. Has a fair bit of weight, slider is well made. Build quality of the gamepad is superb. I chose black.
Lots of ppl on the street have commented
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my bro has arc and i have play. both are super amazing good looking phones! its hard to decide actually!
in terms of built quality play is very well built, feels nice in hand and the back looks amazing.
arc is slim and more business looking. but still play ahs some advantages over arc. screen in arc is bit better. play has tereo speakers, and you can use gaming buttons in 99% applications(browsing, msgs, yourtube, maps etc..) so thats a huge advantage. and games are awesome! youtube backstab, its a 1.5gb game! go for play!
arc is good too. but play has everything that arc has(-the screen .3 inches smaller) and a lot more.
First when I got the play it did feel a bit cheaper than the htc desire hd I had before. Now about a month later I've grown into it and really like the design and the feel of it. Not bulky at all when in your pocket. I went down android alley to get better gaming and this device just gives the best and at the same time has a very smooth and fluent UI.
My wife still got the DHD and when I pick it up I don't mis it one bit cause this gives me exactly what I want.
About the slider it's well made but can't compare with my Nokia N900 wich is the most solid slider phone i've come across, still the play feels very good sliding in and out.
If you're a big gamer and can't live with touchscreen controls only then choose the play and if you are alright with only touchscreen controls then go for the Arc.
Regards Dousan...
Ohh and for me this is by far the best smartphone i've ever had cause it gives me all what I'm looking for in a smartphone.
Thanks so much for the replies everyone.
I think what it is coming down to is will I play that many games on it...and I honestly think I will. I am a pretty huge gamer, spending around 2-5 hours a day playing 360 (Mostly Black Ops really but doing some Boarderlands Coop recently)
The thing is I have some gaming gear that I simply do not use. Like my PC for example, its the following: CPU i7, GPU Ati 5870, RAM 12gb Trichannel, HDD 1tb, Bluray burner....and I use it for facebook : /
I remember when I had my Galaxy S Captivate though and used to play the hell out of its games. I would play a lot of Genesis and SNES and LOVE the 16-bit era of consoles so I am thinking I will use the Play a lot, hell even when I get a new phone later I would just keep it for a very nice emulation machine!
I think its going to come down to the screen. If I can confirm its glass then I am sold. I would just have a hard time buying a phone in this day and age with a plastic screen >: (
I think I can live with the Auto brightness, but I do hope they patch the phone to let you control it.
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Thanks so much for the replies everyone.
I think what it is coming down to is will I play that many games on it...and I honestly think I will. I am a pretty huge gamer, spending around 2-5 hours a day playing 360 (Mostly Black Ops really but doing some Boarderlands Coop recently)
The thing is I have some gaming gear that I simply do not use. Like my PC for example, its the following: CPU i7, GPU Ati 5870, RAM 12gb Trichannel, HDD 1tb, Bluray burner....and I use it for facebook : /
I remember when I had my Galaxy S Captivate though and used to play the hell out of its games. I would play a lot of Genesis and SNES and LOVE the 16-bit era of consoles so I am thinking I will use the Play a lot, hell even when I get a new phone later I would just keep it for a very nice emulation machine!
I think its going to come down to the screen. If I can confirm its glass then I am sold. I would just have a hard time buying a phone in this day and age with a plastic screen >: (
I think I can live with the Auto brightness, but I do hope they patch the phone to let you control it.
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ofcourse the screen is glass, not even the idiots at sony would make a plasic multi-touch screen a capacitive touch screen wouldnt work if it was made out of plastic.
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ofcourse the screen is glass, not even the idiots at sony would make a plasic multi-touch screen a capacitive touch screen wouldnt work if it was made out of plastic.
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Plastic wouldve worked fine its more liite weight. Companies should stop copyin apples designs
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Plastic wouldve worked fine its more liite weight. Companies should stop copyin apples designs
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i think you'll find apple copied E.A. Johnson who made the first glass capacitive touch screen
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Plastic wouldve worked fine its more liite weight. Companies should stop copyin apples designs
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yeah you right sorry, i though the screen had to be made out of a conductive material, but its the oposite lol
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ofcourse the screen is glass, not even the idiots at sony would make a plasic multi-touch screen a capacitive touch screen wouldnt work if it was made out of plastic.
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Plastic multi touch phones are still coming out. High end phones of course use glass
doesnt matter if its glass. sony puts on a shatter proof layer so you will always feel plastic.
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i think you'll find apple copied E.A. Johnson who made the first glass capacitive touch screen
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i don't give a F*** about what does apple and don"t even need to know if they do something then it's apple the precursor and the very first one who did it ?.???
Hey apple made the first Isucks years later after many companies like htc and sony... apple made tablet years later after fujitsu and others company... Apple is not the inventor of the phone nor the tablet !
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doesnt matter if its glass. sony puts on a shatter proof layer so you will always feel plastic.
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I would be removing the shatter proof film like I did with my x10. Screen felt so nice after and I never got a scratch the whole time I owned it (Over a year)
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i don't give a F*** about what does apple and don"t even need to know if they do something then it's apple the precursor and the very first one who did it ?.???
Hey apple made the first Isucks years later after many companies like htc and sony... apple made tablet years later after fujitsu and others company... Apple is not the inventor of the phone nor the tablet !
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I would be removing the shatter proof film like I did with my x10. Screen felt so nice after and I never got a scratch the whole time I owned it (Over a year)
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how do you remove it?
sticky back plastic, egg carton and blu tack.
then when youve finished you can make a tracy island
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how do you remove it?
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I used a needle to gently lift a corner. Once it was up just a bit I gripped it and just pulled. Came off nice and clean, no residue left behind.
After having it removed I have no clue why SE insist on putting these films over their screens. They are so much nicer with the thing removed! Image is sharper, screen is smoother, and touch sensitivity goes up a lot.
You took a pin to your screen?!?
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You took a pin to your screen?!?
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Oh yeah. It took a steady hand not to scratch the screen but I just poked under the screen and tilted the needle upaway from the screen and the film lifted. But I will say you need a pretty steady hand (Tattoo artist here, so mines rock steady lol)
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Oh yeah. It took a steady hand not to scratch the screen but I just poked under the screen and tilted the needle upaway from the screen and the film lifted. But I will say you need a pretty steady hand (Tattoo artist here, so mines rock steady lol)
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im so skeptical about this.... need to see a video tutorial.
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First of all excuse My English. its far from perfect.
So yeah. my friend works for Samsung. and i got my hands on the Galaxy S 2 and the new Tab.
i will post pics of the Tab later. kinda busy @ work " and honestly dont care about the Tab at all. i found the ipad 2 is better for me but thats just me
back to the Galaxy S2.
in short. its light. very light. the iphone 4 is heavier.
the device has edges. so its not smooth as say nexus S.
in terms of software, i didnt find any slowdowns or lag. which is a very good thing. because the Atrix used to lag alot even though its a dual core phone too " wtf was up with that ?? "
the Screen. ok.. its same as super amoled. i didnt notice anything different in terms of colors and blacks. HOWEVER. i can no longer see the pixels like Nexus S and Galaxy S screens. its very hard to notice now. sure its no iphone 4. but its damn good. think of as clear as super LCD screen. but with Super Amoled colors. i say its best of both words.
the sound was very high. very clear.
again this phone is so light at one point i really thought its a toy. i am not sure many people like that. its as heavy as galaxy S 1.
personally i like the phone a little heavier " say desire HD or iphone 4 type of heavy " ., it kinda makes the phone more expensive. " but thats just me "
oh and for the people who are wondering, there is NO cracky noise when you hold the phone tight. no sqeeky sound whatsever, its firm . which is a good thing.
i just REALLY didnt like the back of the phone. the plastic look of it is cheap. but on front ? its amazing.
so smooth and when its off. it makes you feel the whole front is a screen " its not ofcourse "
as for the Tab. honeycomb in it. didnt like it much. the theme was all black and blue. was very sweet. the way menus move was nice. laggy a little i dont know why. specially when i opened gallary. it has a nice interface but thats about it.
Gd Review, very usefull info.
Thank You
your welcome
Thanks for the great review. Say we drop the phone by mistake..u think it will cause a considerable amount/permanent damage to the phone in itself..since the back esp. is made out of plastic?
Overall, are u happy with the build quality?
Nice info etc - but that is not a retail model! Apparently the back has changed on the retail model, making it ever so slightly heavier too....
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k87 said:
Thanks for the great review. Say we drop the phone by mistake..u think it will cause a considerable amount/permanent damage to the phone in itself..since the back esp. is made out of plastic?
Overall, are u happy with the build quality?
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yes. if you drop the phone, it will get damaged. think of it as galaxy S 1 really. the problem is if you drop it in the edges, thats where it will suffer the most. that being said. i dont think if you drop it like 2 meters high on a carpet will damage anything. but on the floor or the street? 1 meter and the phone is a goner.
as for the build quality. not really. on the front. yes its very beauitiful. the way the screen is presented and how its smooth with almost no edges on the side " the screen it self is very close to the edge. "
but the back is just horrible ugly thing. i am slapping this phone with a nice non see throu cover as soon as i get my hands on one. because its not an eye candy for sure.
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Nice info etc - but that is not a retail model! Apparently the back has changed on the retail model, making it ever so slightly heavier too....
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the way the phone is designed. there is no way to get a heavier back cover.
the cover it self is really very stupid. its very cheap. makes you wonder what the hell samsung was thinking when they decided to put that cover.
you have to know that the back cover isnt something like nexus S or Galaxy S where it takes the whole back of the phone.
the back cover is just a big square box that you pretty much just slap it to the back of the phone.
say for example if you drop the Nexus S or galaxy S and the back cover got damaged, all you do is change the back and your good to go like a brand new.
on the galaxy S 2 if you drop the phone on the edges, and you want to replace the damaged part. you have to take off the whole phone apart. " think of it as motorolla droid " which i think is a big -ve thing IMHO
actually you have the NON retail unit.
in the retail unit the phone back case is DIFFERENT.
CASE CLOSED.
I hope its not too light...Im imagining a very breezy day and the phone is not held tightly in the hand..and because of its low weight the phone falls from the hand.. lol I really want this phone!
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actually you have the NON retail unit.
in the retail unit the phone back case is DIFFERENT.
CASE CLOSED.
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I dont think i said they are a retail unit. I was posting my review on the build that the company is showing to carriers so they can partnership with them.
The phone it self was super fast regardless how it looks or what i think of it.
Also for the gamers here like me. This phone is your dream come true for the emulators. The n64 was super smooth and fine with almost all games i played ( zelda. Mario 64. Mario kart. Golden eye was amazing)
it can play super smash bros? the 1 with zelda kirby mario and etc?
god I missed that game..
Screen and touchpad isnt as close i want- look at iphone.
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it can play super smash bros? the 1 with zelda kirby mario and etc?
god I missed that game..
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yes. but not as smooth as 60fps. i think more about 30 fps. it was playable.
i also tried killer instect. that game wasnt playable at all on nexus S. when the phone was over clocked to 1.5, it was playable but with laggy. on the Galaxy S2 the lag way less than than the over clocked 1.5. which is amazing really.
however. i dont think the phone has the power to play Dream cast emulators tho.
now when it comes to the playstation emulator. was super smooth and super nice. some games the sound wasnt very synced. so i put the option in the video settings to skip frames to the max " 10 " and it played so smooth i felt like i am holding a PSP with me lol "
nice device really.
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Screen and touchpad isnt as close i want- look at iphone.
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as i agree, the screen is more closer to the edges on the iphone.
like i said, as hardware design. the galaxy S2 isnt really a loooker. its no Arc for example or Nexus S. its a blocky phone that has 4 years old look back. and honestly it look cheap.
under the hood. its a beast. i honestly think people should cover the phone. specially in the back. its ugly
HEY
dont forget you had a non retail unit
maybe a retail unit , which also has 1.2ghz processor, could run 60 FPS n64 emulator
OHDUSER said:
HEY
dont forget you had a non retail unit
maybe a retail unit , which also has 1.2ghz processor, could run 60 FPS n64 emulator
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every thing is possible. i am just posting my feedback on what i had in my hand. and specs wise. i am impressed. this is hands down the :
- fastest android phone i ever used " including Atrix "
- Best Screen for an android device " including Atrix/Nexus S " but not the iphone screen " wont go on Vs here between the 2 screens as its personal taste and i like the iphone 4 screen more "
- Gaming heaven for all emulator fans. i still remember trying to play N64 " Mario 64 " on my iphone 4 and the that **** couldnt run @ 10 fps even though its almost the same GPU/CPU as Nexus S but what gives. hell they were missing buttons too " and couldnt change that "
all in all. this is one great device.
however. i think it needs voodoo color fix. as the screen had yellowish white. like someone pissed on the screen. this issue happened on both galaxy S and NExus S. voodoo will fix it. but ofcourse it has to be rooted/unlocked boot loader as well.
odd.. the samoled+ is supposed to be WAY better than iphone4..
then again, idc, its iphone 4 XD
I love toying around with my phone.. not being stuck on same crap.. even jailbreak doesnt help that much..
Well I had an Xperia Arc for two weeks and the back cover was even cheaper than my Galaxy S, it has cracky noise when you hold the phone normally and that looked cheap as hell. The sharp edges were un-ergonomic , the back button wasn't reachable easily... I got rid of it very quickly
And for the design it's a matter of taste, for me the GSII is definitely a looker and that's one of its strenghs and the iPhone 4 is the one that have a 5years old design (just look at the difference between the first gen...)
but thanks for the litle review anyway
Agree on the looks, i think that the SGS2 is far more beautiful than both HTCs phones and the Iphone.. I find HTC designs a bit dull and not that interesting.
Although i really liked the old backcover on the SGS2, which had that silvershine pattern opposed to the new plain black one. But i might get a case for it so it won't matter all that much.
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again this phone is so light at one point i really thought its a toy. i am not sure many people like that. its as heavy as galaxy S 1.
personally i like the phone a little heavier " say desire HD or iphone 4 type of heavy " ., it kinda makes the phone more expensive. " but thats just me "
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funny, the only reason i replacing htc inspire (desire hd) with galaxy S2 cus it' freaking heavy, like a brick!
i like to surf internet in bed, after holding inspire (desire hd) for 15 minutes, your hand will get sore!
(You don't got retail model - no Samsung Logo so probably another back cover(as we saw, retail version got another back cover). You don't have any photo of your back cover btw.)
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Hey all, hope someone can help. Two things,
1) gorilla glass, how good is it? Is it worth using a screen protector as well or if it not needed?
2) gaming, I'm big on gaming except on my phone, poor old hero struggles with angry birds. One of the things I'm looking forward to when I get my upgrade is being able to play cool games, is there any that are must haves?
Thank you
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1) I'm taking my chances (if you want to call them that) without a screen protector. That trust is coming from videos and other user experiences, not from my own previous phones, so to each his own.
2) I came from a Hero too, where most of my gaming came from SNESoid and GBAoid. I'm a little disappointed to confirm my previous worries about GPU compatibility. The high quality 3D games that were released with the first wave of dual core phones (Tegra 2) are not currently compatible with the SGS2. I imagine this will change as this phone gets into more people's hands, but just a fact you'll have to deal with until then. All older games work fine though, including everyone's standard of measurement, Angry Birds. Personally I've
There is a thread in the Apps section that is keeping tabs on what games do and don't work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057199
slice77 said:
1) I'm taking my chances (if you want to call them that) without a screen protector. That trust is coming from videos and other user experiences, not from my own previous phones, so to each his own.
2) I came from a Hero too, where most of my gaming came from SNESoid and GBAoid. I'm a little disappointed to confirm my previous worries about GPU compatibility. The high quality 3D games that were released with the first wave of dual core phones (Tegra 2) are not currently compatible with the SGS2. I imagine this will change as this phone gets into more people's hands, but just a fact you'll have to deal with until then. All older games work fine though, including everyone's standard of measurement, Angry Birds. Personally I've
There is a thread in the Apps section that is keeping tabs on what games do and don't work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057199
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Thanks for the reply (can't find thanks button on xda app?!) n the link
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1) It is only a matter of time until you scratch gorilla glass, it WILL happen. I do not trust gorilla glass at ALL. This is from experience of my previous Galaxy S and the amount of scratches it received. Best bit of advice is keep the phone in a empty pocked, and ALWAYS check your pocket before you put the phone in. Also DO NOT EVER drop the phone, though its bound to happen at some stage.
2) The games front isnt so good, as the previous poster said. Also running emulators to me is POINTLESS until we can get some bluetooth control pads working on this thing, i.e. the wii remote. This however is very unlikely to EVER happen. The original Galaxy S still doesn't work with the wii remote. So if you bought this phone for gaming its the wrong choice im afraid.
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1) It is only a matter of time until you scratch gorilla glass, it WILL happen. I do not trust gorilla glass at ALL. This is from experience of my previous Galaxy S and the amount of scratches it received. Best bit of advice is keep the phone in a empty pocked, and ALWAYS check your pocket before you put the phone in. Also DO NOT EVER drop the phone, though its bound to happen at some stage.
2) The games front isnt so good, as the previous poster said. Also running emulators to me is POINTLESS until we can get some bluetooth control pads working on this thing, i.e. the wii remote. This however is very unlikely to EVER happen. The original Galaxy S still doesn't work with the wii remote. So if you bought this phone for gaming its the wrong choice im afraid.
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Hi. Thanks. Just wondered about the glass, will prob use a protector anyway, just in case . Iv not got the phone yet, upgrading in few weeks, gonna try sensation as well but I'm swaying heavily to the sg2 @ mo gaming isn't the be all for me as far as phones go, it wasn't enough to get me on a winmo 7 phone it'll just be nice to have something better than a lagging angry birds
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Never scratched my SGS 1 but have a Vikuiti screen protector .
Along with a leather case phone just sold in perfect condition .
Likewise after a new case a new battery is part of the requirements .
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JJEgan said:
Never scratched my SGS 1 but have a Vikuiti screen protector .
Along with a leather case phone just sold in perfect condition .
Likewise after a new case a new battery is part of the requirements .
jje
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Where did you buy?
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Where did you buy?
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bassmonkey said:
Hey all, hope someone can help. Two things,
1) gorilla glass, how good is it? Is it worth using a screen protector as well or if it not needed?
2) gaming, I'm big on gaming except on my phone, poor old hero struggles with angry birds. One of the things I'm looking forward to when I get my upgrade is being able to play cool games, is there any that are must haves?
Thank you
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1. Ask yourself this... You paid over $700 for a phone, is an extra dollar or two really gonna kill you for an added peace of mind?...
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1. Ask yourself this... You paid over $700 for a phone, is an extra dollar or two really gonna kill you for an added peace of mind?...
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The glue from the protector may damage the coating that has been applied to the screen...
The screen has a really awesome feel to it, and screen protectors usually feel nasty. I had an SGS1 without a screen protector for a year without a scratch, so no way am I going to put anything on this one.
I've been using my SGS2 for a few days now, and it has no scratches of any kind anywhere. Has been sitting in my pocket and shown around the whole time too.
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1. Ask yourself this... You paid over $700 for a phone, is an extra dollar or two really gonna kill you for an added peace of mind?...
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Lol, not sure if u read all the post, its not about money, never had phone with gorilla glass before n was wondering if the hype about it being scratch proof was true whether I get sgs2 or sensation it'll be a choice I have to live with for 2 years so ill be doing my best to keep it safe
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it's not scratch proof. but its pretty rare.
ive a scratch on my sgs1. its tiny. its annoying cause i know its there but most wouldnt see it ;-) Not sure how this happened either, but it did a few month ago. I have no other scratches and never had a protection.
I'm not going to use a screen protector, I didn't on my SGS and that didn't get a single scratch. My daughter dropped it which dented the chrome bezel, but the screen was perfect.
I think the biggest risk is dropping it - just get a decent case or silicon bumper.
Is Gorilla Glass better or worse than the glass on the Nexus One? Becuase I never maganed to scratch that.
I think this video answers most of the discussions here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1VgsO-LC8&feature=g-u-u
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great video! thanks for sharing.
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
iphone smooth browser scrolling
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anyway, great video, flash performance is amazing
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I think I won't need any third party browser anymore.
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.
the device dosent shows any sign of pebble blue in the whole video and no symptoms of brushed finish too!! nice...
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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He says it in the video too - lol
Fairly annoying but he was honest in the review.
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Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.
It's good to be ambidex ^_^
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ANNOYING
If you want to be really annoyed, watch their HOX vs iphone test.
Obviously this guy has to learn how to operate a man sized phone.
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Yeah this guy is rearly a hardcore Iphone fanboy, I dont like his reviews and tests cause he is not objective at all. He was trying rearly hard to find something to criticize on and than mention that every minute, he seems very annoyed that this device is better than the Iphone...
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His problem is that he's a lefty and is used to a 3.5" screen.
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im a lefty. i used SGS2 and had no issues.
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Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.
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I agree,
He sounds very condescending at times, lots of "obviously" and "of course". And his tone is terrible. Surely they can find someone with more ability than this dude?
JD
Killa357 said:
Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.
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stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!
Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
vasp3690 said:
stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!
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I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.
Very annoying. Love the phone. Plastic back is better for radio signal. Drop a plastic backed phone and you will get back a scratched but still very much working phone not like a glass backed device. Very easy to tell an I-Phone fan boy. Could not watch or listen to entire video due to the annoying Fan Boy.
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tolis626 said:
Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.
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phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S
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notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
iphone smooth browser scrolling
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I do not think that because something else will change with the camera
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phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S
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This was John V or something.
Well,they are a really good site in fact.They may not have all the stuff Anandtech does,nor do they publish everything new instantly like SlashGear,Engagdet etc,but they do it all and do it well(Does that sound somehow...? ).I prefer them for my everyday mobile tech news reading.
EDIT:****,I must have my ears checked.He is Ray.John isn't the fanboy.I confused the voices and thought John was the annoying one.
Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.
Not seen anyone with a black HTC One yet on these forums but if they exist I am sure they will let you know.
There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.
dimgl said:
Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.
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paulobrien has one you can ask him.
Or you can ask the reviewer from CNET also.
Andrew Hoyle
Black is not released yet but we have been assured it is anodised. The iPhone5 was a joke arriving with chips in the paintwork out of the box! While it is VERY hard to produce things perfectly and there may be a slight flaw somewhere on the phone, some of the iPhone 5s were shocking.
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There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.
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This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.
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and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
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I thought I was the only one. :highfive:
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I thought I was the only one. :highfive:
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Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:
Bunch of crazy people here
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This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.
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Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.
Cnet.co.uk review got it wrong, it's not painted. It's anodized for sure.
Op, can you change the topic to: .... does not scuff?
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Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.
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iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.
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iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.
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While I'm not trying to start a war here, because I don't know this stuff as well as some others, I do know that the iPhone is anodized.
A large part of an anodizing process (and it's overall resistance against scuffs/scratches) comes down to the type of metal and its hardness (tempered vs. non-tempered) along with depth, dye, and the finishing process itself. Anodizing is quite a bit different than just spraying some paint on something and moving along - however, it does have the ability to chip/scuff almost just as easily (depending on the process and materials used).
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Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:
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that is crazy. :d
jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
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this guy doesn't understand what anodized means...
"Now, after using the phone for more than a week, I can say it’s surely one of the best phones out there, if not the best. It’s got issues, for example, with the pretty finish chipping off, but I’m been very impressed in other areas like battery life and camera."
this is from one of the reviews. do not trust the video on youtube.
Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.
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Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go
to be fair i make a point of never putting anything in a pocket that my phone is in.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go
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I don't. Never did, and the time I went to a show and put my SII in a zippered pocket I got nasty scuffs, when the taking out.
But the pocket with the phone, is always the phone alone...
Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
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Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
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Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
perez6991 said:
Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
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Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
gagan313 said:
Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Thanks very much for that... Really helped.
I just ordered a case that's designed for the HP slate extreme. Cost me $12. Its a stand and cover and should fix the uncomfortable ergonomics. I'll post a review when it gets here tomorrow.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
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Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
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I think I understand where you are coming from from the fingers side... However i dont really think NVIDIA though the case through properly lol....Only for watching movies and drawing etc.. (Hands free sort of thing.... Although I play on it everyday xD)