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Thoughts on YOUR Atrix?

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i'm very happy with the phone. the only caveat i really have (which a lot of people don't seem to have) is battery life. i get about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display-on time, while others have been reporting double that.
as far as motoblur is concerned, if you just get another launcher and use Titanium Backup Pro to freeze motoblur Home and other services, then you won't even have to think about it.

rdubyah said:
I should be receiving my Atrix for AT&T tomorrow, this will be a HUGGGGGGEEEEEE upgrade from my measly HTC Hero (Sprint CDMA) that I have modified to the ends of the Earth. I'm in need of more power and amazed at the stuff you can do with the Atrix.
My question to you all, has this phone met or surpassed your expectations? Did it fail to achieve those expectations? Tell me what you think of this phone, I have been reading so many reviews about the phone I feel like I know all technological aspects about the phone as well, haha.
How fast were you to get rid of MotoBlur?
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I think I can speak for a lot of people in saying that, as far as the Atrix goes, I am in love with the "potential" this phone has. But as far as meeting those expectations, well, that's something to be debated. There are areas where the dual core shines and other areas it seems it is not harnessing the full power. Then couple that with AT&T's network restrictions and Motorola's lockdown on the device, I'm going to have to say that I am disappointed in the Atrix as of now. That could change if there is a break through in the bootloader or if AT&T gets its act together and starts offering the "High speeds" we were promised. Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".

Coming from a captivate I love this phone...everything works includi.g the gps. Most of motoblur is gone on my phone. The phone is amazingly fast but does have an occasional hiccup. An unlocked bootloader would turn this into the best available android phone but its one of the top
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live4nyy said:
...Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".
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I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...

bleuiko said:
I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...
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Yeah, I'm high up on the fence because if I do return it I am going to switch carriers as well.

I'm really enjoying it... coming from a Tilt2, it's a major upgrade. Straight out of the box, it's very enjoyable... I'm not dissapointed at all.. it's only going to get better once they get this beast unleashed
Camera is quick and decent.
GPS is amazingly fast...
Browser is snappy and loads everything great
WiFi is a little weak...
and I actually like the screen.. It's not best screen ever made, but it's actually a very nice display.
I was getting terrible battery life, but somehow a hard-reset solved that problem, and i'm able to get more than a day of heavy use no problem.
Just picked up a second one for the wife (coming from an iphone 3g) and she's really enjoying it a lot as well

I like the Atrix. I upgraded from an iPhone 3G. I realize that it's not the best it can be as far as unlocking right now, but it is better than what I had. I only wish I could afford the webtop dock right now for times I'm on the road. Nothing a netbook couldn't fix though.

as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.

cegna09 said:
as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
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Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.

I like my Atrix, the only problems i see is that the webtop is very limited, but some people over the developer section are working on that, and also the speeds which since T-Mobile was bought it definitely will become faster alongside with HSPA+ and LTE being utilized together. It has lots of potential to run REALLY great, but this is the first phone of its kind, it'll always have problems in the beginning.

bleuiko said:
Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.
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and that cuts the battery way down. powering all the radios is a large power drain. I never turn on a radio i don't need, so 90% of the time wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc are off. Mobile data is always on, and i i never try and tell it to revert to 2g.

cegna09 said:
as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.
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see... i wish i had that same kind of success.

It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
Based on my limited testing I can get about 4-5 hours of display on time with auto brightness. The absolute best I could squeeze out of my nexus S is almost 4 hours which is to be expected since it's 1930mah vs. 1500mah. I MIGHT do some battery drain tests before I return the Atrix but I'm not sure... those take time. I know the Nexus S can go about 7-8 hours playing a video while in airplane mode so I'm wondering what the Atrix could achieve.

dinan said:
It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
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We do have all those indicators in the Battery manager. I average about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display, unless i'm doing something like streaming March Madness via flash, then it drops to like 7 hours with 2-3 hours of display.

Love it.
Honestly out of all the phones i've had this is the main one.
Screen great looking.
Speed is unreal and I mean like lightening fast :O
The games and apps that work just look and run crazy good!
Camera imo is great not going to replace main cameras but great for stills and videos, would be nice to see the 1080p recording update out soon though
Motoblur stuff which I like :O lol can be frozen and a custom launcher introduced without you even thinking about the motoblur lag.
Battery life is very good I can get a whole day at college 8:30 until 6 heavy usage and still get home with 30-40% left which is great to me
Fingerprint reader is also a great little feature that gets yours friends a little jealous lol
Only thing I don't like is the battery door creaks, I know its nothing major but its just a little annoyance other than that the build quality is great very sleek device!

I'm really bored with my Atrix there's no developement community. You can't do **** with a locked bootloader. Even the iphone is more open than this pos. It's going back tommorrow **** motorola.
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@ Exador... Amen brother!!!!
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I'm a firm believer in the "garbage in, garbage out" philosophy. Yes this phone has one or two legitimate issues (touch screen acting up after x seconds continuous touch), but for the most part is good. How many apps do you have installed? How many do you actually use? Every month i clean out my phone of apps that haven't been used in a couple weeks. I usually see a little bump in battery life each time since less apps are itching to use the data connection or other resources.
how many widgets are you running? I don't really notice it on the Atrix, but on my aria when i had 5 home screens riddled with widgets, it was laggy and slow. Drop it down to 2 screens with a simple setup, and it was snappy.
My point is, most of the time, little issues are probably user generated. I see it all the time with computers. But it's way easier to blame the hardware and software than look for the cause of your problem. again, i'm not down playing the few legitimate issues.
next time i pull a 39hour run i'll post specifics of what i was using it for in the battery thread.

I'm very happy with mine. I don't have much of a desire to put a custom ROM on, so the locked bootloader isn't an issue. The speed of this device is just levels beyond my Nexus One. I can't remember a time so far where I've had any lag. Plus, I don't have to worry about app space the way I did with the N1.

What more could you want in a phone?

I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.

I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!

I love my vibrant had it since release....

Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!

I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.

A solid gps and a flash for the camera

I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.

muathib said:
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant

I want mine to do my chores

nomadrider123 said:
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.

Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.

jRi0T68 said:
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....

It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.

N8ter said:
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.

What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.

you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.

xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...

xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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Overheating

This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?

Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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steve228uk said:
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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Good point, where can I check the power intake?
Thanks

mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Mine got really hot the first day I used it (27/4)...I was just checking out features and installing a few apps. I rebooted it after the battery was fully charged and it's been fine ever since.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2

No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
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vimto25 said:
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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And i thought i was alone...
It gets really hot sometimes though, not to the extent of burnt plastic smell but it gets pretty uncomfortable touching around lens at the back.

I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
For example this was a ADB shell top taken while running Cordy downclocked to 800MHz in setcpu. The phone was a tiny bit warm but only by the camera (where the CPU is). Basically, this just shows that if you are playing a game, nothing else is going on so the CPU shouldn't be going up to 1200MHz. And it plays the same as when it isn't underclocked.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.

Fysi said:
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..

BoogWeed said:
My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
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Do you have root and Titanium/MyBackup Pro?
If you do, freeze anything that mentions wifi sharing, unless you are going to use wifi hotspot and kies air a lot.

mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.

hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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Find the nearest Apple store near you.

The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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SgtDutchyNL said:
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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Or with some specific games.

cmd512 said:
Find the nearest Apple store near you.
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LMAO
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hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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that's just not true.
Mine gets hot aswell .. it's random sometimes but usualy with playing games etc. I suspect it has something to do with the samsung drivers/software and not our tinkering.
Bugs bugs bugs...

Mine also gets fairly hot, which might be a little uncomfortable - but that's the sacrifice you make when you get such a high powered device in such a small space.

Well,amount of apps/tinkering/etc has nothing to do with the phone getting got UNLESS an installed app in messing something up.I have heard many such cases when a rogue app made the CPU run at 100% in different phones.If that's the case you have to find and remove the app.I'd suggest OS monitor for finding it.Never happened to me though!
What's more,it's normal for it to get more hot than your average phone,as it carries more power under the hood and has nothing to help it dissipate the generated heat,as it's plastic.The Desire HD does a very good job with managing heat and I have never exceeded 40 C,even when gaming with an overclock at 1.8GHz and performance governor.Not saying the DHD is better,but Samsung wouldn't have left something like this if it would damage the phone.So I tend to believe that it's designed to get hot.

Mine has overheated twice.
Both times, when trying to pair itself automatically to my car kit. The phone got really really hot (i noticed it warming my leg in my jeans pocket) and needed the battery pulling out to reset it. When it started back up, the running temp was nearly 50 degrees (in standby, it runs at about 27)
Hasn't done it since though, just keeping my eye on it!

[Q] Why the HELL is the Nexus 4 so BUGGY?!?!?!

What the hell is wrong with the Nexus 4? I thought it was Google's eldest son and would care to treat it to a few bug fixes once in a while. And stock Android? Biggest joke ever in the history of man. My bloated AT&T Galaxy S4 was 100x more stable than this piece of junk. Ever since I got my phone in August, the Nexus 4 is STRIFE with bugs. I can't remember the last time I used the phone without a major bug happening in a day.
-Randomly shuts off. This is F*CKING huge. I will press the right button to turn off the screen, and it won't turn on again. I have to hold the button for like a minute straight to restart the phone. What the hell is up with this?????
-CALLING DOES NOT WORK? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A PHONE IF YOU CAN'T MAKE OR RECEIVE CALLS? I HAVE RUN INTO THIS PROBLEM ALMOST EVERY TIME I RECEIVE A CALL. I have to restart the phone, wait for 2 minutes, then call back the person. This is EXTREMELY frustrating.
-The Youtube app works like 20% of the time. I am not even kidding. I expect the app to malfunction than work. It will spin on forever or it will give an error. And no, don't ****ing tell me to restart the phone. I'm not doing that for a video.
-I have a screen lock and I can reply to text messages without unlocking the phone. What the hell is the purpose of a screen lock if I don't have to input that in?
-The battery percentage is completely off half the time. Sometimes it goes 0-100% charge in like 2 hours and sometimes it takes 5 hours. The longer it takes, the longer the battery lasts. This is so frustrating when I have to go somewhere and my battery is 20% at noon.
-The wifi won't connect sometimes and the data won't turn on even if I have full bars. I would have to wait like 15 minutes for the data to turn on.
There is literally so many bugs, I can't remember them all right now. Stock Android my ass. Someone please direct me to a bloated ROM that is stable than this hunk-o-junk.

Do you feel good screaming at nobody? Got it off your chest now. Your phone has obviously seen better days, if your that unhappy with it then don't continue to use it. My nexus 4 still runs like dream no matter what version of android I'm on. The only bugs my device has either comes with stock Google issues or custom ROM bugs. Most bugs are from dirty flashing over and over I'm sure you know that. Wi-Fi bugs would be kernel related if not hardware, your battery sounds like it's gonna catch fire soon. I can't stress enough that these issues your having require your investigating to localize wtf is going on. I hope I've helped.

You bought a phone nearly 2 years after it was released? Was it new, or did you buy it second hand? What version of Android are you running? Are you rooted? Are you running Xposed or other mods? Custom kernel? What have you or the previous owner done with it? Have you done a factory reset?
Cuz mine is 2 and a half years old, and apart from the charging port being a bit touchy with a worn power cord, it's fast and stable.
I mean, if you're looking for a solution to problems, you have to tell us what's going on. Otherwise, you just look like a fool that likes to complain about crap that nobody else (for some reason) is experiencing.

Nope... My wife's been using her N4 for two and a half years and haven't experienced any of those.
Sounds like you have a faulty device, sorry.

seems like your current device has some issues, in general nexus4 very good and fast device

The nexus 4 is not buggy. You bought a broken phone that powers off and your screaming that the phone is buggy? Use your head.
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Lmaoo, it's only my device huh?
Random shut downs
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/LNEnfEnTJ3Q
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-random-shutdowns-4-4-4-t2804425
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-random-shuts-t3038926
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-random-shutdown-t2537584
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-randomly-off-intermittently-t2077148
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/2p6nyh/n4_randomly_shutting_downfreezing_after_50_update/
No sound in calls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/audio-call-nexus-4-cm11-t2924589
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/call-audio-problem-4-3-stock-sound-t2495331
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82949
Youtube app
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus7/comments/2laiqb/you_tube_app_not_working_there_was_a_problem/
Battery
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/RW1W1EDqf2k
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-shuts-randomly-battery-problem-t2202253/page3

pointystar said:
Lmaoo, it's only my device huh?
Random shut downs
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/LNEnfEnTJ3Q
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-random-shutdowns-4-4-4-t2804425
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-random-shuts-t3038926
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-random-shutdown-t2537584
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-randomly-off-intermittently-t2077148
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/2p6nyh/n4_randomly_shutting_downfreezing_after_50_update/
No sound in calls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/audio-call-nexus-4-cm11-t2924589
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/call-audio-problem-4-3-stock-sound-t2495331
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82949
Youtube app
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus7/comments/2laiqb/you_tube_app_not_working_there_was_a_problem/
Battery
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/RW1W1EDqf2k
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-shuts-randomly-battery-problem-t2202253/page3
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It doesn't mean the majority of people are having issues. Did you not notice that there are still lots of people on these forums that aren't complaining of such problems? I wouldn't put up with random shut downs, so if mine ever did that, I'd be done with it.
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I bought a used lg g2 and the LCD screwed up days after I bought it. Should I go into the g2 forums and tell all the people that are completely happy with their g2, that the g2 is junk?
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The random shut downs are annoying.. Although you'll probably find it hasn't shut down.. If it's anything like mine it will be on, but won't turn the screen in no matter what you try.
Try plugging it into a PC next time it does it.. 90% of the time it will be recognised, you can even get minimal log cat messages.. But nothing I have tried will awaken it.
Mine didn't do it from new but it's getting worse now.. Nothing seems to fix it, have reflashed many times.
The other problems aren't common on the nexus 4, but I've seen the shutdown one on a few different devices now. It's certainly not even close to all of them, but enough are starting to do it.

Sounds like you have something wrong, I am running 5.1.1 rooted, with the LTE hack, and it is fast and stable. No random reboots. You might try running a logcat and see what the issue may be. Clearly you are not looking for help, as you provide no information or detail as to your handset or specifics on the issues you are seeing. Do you feel better to vent? I would put my N4 up against any other handset, even 2 years later.

Let him scream to himself. Useless thread, it has no purpose but relieving his feelings. Here is not the place for that.

I can recreate a lot of issues OP mentioned. I also have the random shutdowns, enormous battery drains, no sound in calls, etc.. I got my phone on day 1 and it seems that these bugs get worse lately.. Unfortunately I don't have the money to buy a new phone right now, so I'll have to just live with it.. I spent countless hours trying out fixes but nothing really worked permanently..

Could all of this have to do with production batches or hardware revs? Mine is a rev11 bought new in Sep 2013, I never experienced any of these bugs (except for the sleep-of-death which I've only come across twice on KK, so not a reoccurring condition). Ironical that you haven't mentioned the ONLY widely acknowledged bug affecting the n4 (which 5.1 seems to have finally solved): the infamous camera reboot. Only Lollipop helped for me; as long as I was stuck with KK it was a feckin nightmare!
Sorry for the poem, just giving my 2 cents about what's an acknowledged bug and what is not.

MogoPips said:
I can recreate a lot of issues OP mentioned. I also have the random shutdowns, enormous battery drains, no sound in calls, etc.. I got my phone on day 1 and it seems that these bugs get worse lately.. Unfortunately I don't have the money to buy a new phone right now, so I'll have to just live with it.. I spent countless hours trying out fixes but nothing really worked permanently..
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Logs are free if you want some help. Could be the hardware, but without knowing details impossible to say.

I had the camera reboot once in the 7 months I've owned this phone. Happened when I went to take a picture in a message I was sending directly, which I dont do very often. That's the only reboot or crash I can remember ever happening to this phone. Nothing like my sisters s3 that freezes almost every day since she got it apparently.
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Note 4 Issues

Good afternoon,
I have a AT&T Note 4 and I am at my wits ends. When you try and restart the phone it will just shut down and then it will not power up for 10-15 minutes at all. The phone will also shut down randomly. It will lag and not unlock sometimes. It just seems to freeze. Sometimes on start up it goes to the Odin screen or gets stuck on restarting and never makes it to the colored SAMSUNG screen. I have replaced the battery to eliminate that possibility. The software is up to date also. I have trouble shot this thing to death. What am I missing? The GPS also way off and it started being off a year and a half almost after the phone was new. I am talking 250-500 feet off. It is mostly off while moving making navigation impossible.

BrtherSanders said:
Good afternoon,
I have a AT&T Note 4 and I am at my wits ends. When you try and restart the phone it will just shut down and then it will not power up for 10-15 minutes at all. The phone will also shut down randomly. It will lag and not unlock sometimes. It just seems to freeze. Sometimes on start up it goes to the Odin screen or gets stuck on restarting and never makes it to the colored SAMSUNG screen. I have replaced the battery to eliminate that possibility. The software is up to date also. I have trouble shot this thing to death. What am I missing? The GPS also way off and it started being off a year and a half almost after the phone was new. I am talking 250-500 feet off. It is mostly off while moving making navigation impossible.
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there are multiple threads on the first two pages of this forum section.
many others having same issue, please read the following ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/phone-functioning-badly-failed-ota-t3450091
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/note-4-sm-n910f-freeze-restart-issue-t3439111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/help-newly-acquired-note-4-boot-looping-t3448009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/phone-functioning-badly-failed-ota-t3450091
i wish there would be a way to make Samsung accept the fact that THERE IS something wrong with our Notes!!!
short verdict - it is dying. install wake lock application, add it to start up and set settings to #4.
accept the fact that your phone will eat the battery faster and one day WILL die completely

golden_m said:
there are multiple threads on the first two pages of this forum section.
many others having same issue, please read the following ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/phone-functioning-badly-failed-ota-t3450091
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/note-4-sm-n910f-freeze-restart-issue-t3439111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/help-newly-acquired-note-4-boot-looping-t3448009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/phone-functioning-badly-failed-ota-t3450091
i wish there would be a way to make Samsung accept the fact that THERE IS something wrong with our Notes!!!
short verdict - it is dying. install wake lock application, add it to start up and set settings to #4.
accept the fact that your phone will eat the battery faster and one day WILL die completely
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Thanks for the response. Yup that is what the issue is. I have been a Samsung fan for years. The fact that they refuse to acknowledge this may drive me away from getting another one. I have spent hours researching and trying to narrow down the issues and find the fix.

BrtherSanders said:
Thanks for the response. Yup that is what the issue is. I have been a Samsung fan for years. The fact that they refuse to acknowledge this may drive me away from getting another one. I have spent hours researching and trying to narrow down the issues and find the fix.
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you are welcome.
i am in the same shoes - liked the note, but considering switching to Nexus 6p now

golden_m said:
you are welcome.
i am in the same shoes - liked the note, but considering switching to Nexus 6p now
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Note7 already having issues. Seems like Samsung may have some serious issues going on. Ill have to get my hands on a Nexus and look at it.

Just finished switching to 6P, for better or for worse. Looks great, love the octa core, but the new Google phone is supposed to be announced in a month, and there's no expandable storage. But, I was ready to upgrade and the last few months with my note4 have been brutal. After hearing how many people were also having issues with Samsung (plus the note 7 exploding battery thing), I'm more than ready to come back to Nexus and leave the Note behind. Tbh probably just gonna thrash it until it completely dies lol