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Stock browser just cannot compete.
should I even bother downloading firefox?
Not a huge fan of Firefox, not all that great and way to big of an app for a browser IMHO
It's a shame that if you should use something else besides the stock browser, you can't change out the stock browser icon in the dock. It feels like dead weight to just have it there. Given Google's propensity for open-ness and customization, not sure why Android stock doesn't let you change these dock icons. Unless I'm mistaken?
Firefox for mobile(aka Fennec) is really slow for me right now. It might be great eventually, but right now it's super slow and has alot of bugs.
Dolphin Browser HD, to me, is like Firefox. Alot of extension, alot of addons, alot of enhancements but still kinda slow. Dolphin Browser Mini is more like Chrome in that it has a few extensions/addons/enhancements but it's extremely quick.
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Firefox for mobile(aka Fennec) is really slow for me right now. It might be great eventually, but right now it's super slow and has alot of bugs.
Dolphin Browser HD, to me, is like Firefox. Alot of extension, alot of addons, alot of enhancements but still kinda slow. Dolphin Browser Mini is more like Chrome in that it has a few extensions/addons/enhancements but it's extremely quick.
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gotta remember it has a Beta tag for a reason
its come a long way, from when it was a 60 meg install
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gotta remember it has a Beta tag for a reason
its come a long way, from when it was a 60 meg install
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Yes, sorry! Meant to mention in my post that I have hopes it'll be something nice eventually hehe.
Try skyfire. feels like stock browser, is much smoother and faster and has way more options.
Is the Dolphin mini like Opera mini which uses an external server to render webpages?
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Is the Dolphin mini like Opera mini which uses an external server to render webpages?
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No, it renders on the device. The difference between Dolphin HD and Mini is that the first is based on the stock Eclair browser and the second on Donut.
for me the best one is the opera mini.
I use stock and xscope.
To me dolphin is extremely slow even when loading Google. I'm using the stock since it gives me what I need. When it comes to video I use dolphin
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A not very interesting article, but I did gloat just a bit.
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Blaze Software conducted a ridiculously comprehensive browser speed test between Android and iPhone to determine which platform has the faster browser. After 45,000 tests, they found that in terms of straight line browser speed, the Android browser smokes the iPhone.
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(and of course the comments are a riot, filled with the usual "arguments" and trolling.)
sweet, android fanboys have another flag
As a web developer I can tell you that iOS is faster in terms of JS performance, over twice as fast (iPhone 4 vs. Nexus S). They said that iOS's new javascript engine doesn't help load times - well... um, that's not the point. If I develop a Javascript intensive (think animations, etc) web app, it will run smoother on iOS than on Android.
I've always thought that load time tests are crap shoots too. Way too many uncontrollable variables - WiFi or 3G connection, ping times, server response from the site you're requesting. Testing rendering time (local file) or actual JS performance is a way better indicator of browser peformance - otherwise just test data connection not browsers for load times.
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As a web developer I can tell you that iOS is faster in terms of JS performance, over twice as fast (iPhone 4 vs. Nexus S). They said that iOS's new javascript engine doesn't help load times - well... um, that's not the point. If I develop a Javascript intensive (think animations, etc) web app, it will run smoother on iOS than on Android.
I've always thought that load time tests are crap shoots too. Way too many uncontrollable variables - WiFi or 3G connection, ping times, server response from the site you're requesting. Testing rendering time (local file) or actual JS performance is a way better indicator of browser peformance - otherwise just test data connection not browsers for load times.
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I like browsing on my iPad 2 more than my Evo. I think Safari is quicker when I'm using it.
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Faster dosen't always make a web browser better... I'm not a huge fan of the stock CM7 browser.
iPhone/iPad browser = webkit
EVO browser = webkit
How is this a browser comparison?
Edit: now that I have already posted, I'll actually read the article lol
They weren't testing with the safari browser
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-iphone-in-real-world-web-tests-says-firm.ars
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Faster dosen't always make a web browser better... I'm not a huge fan of the stock CM7 browser.
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I don't like the stock browser either. I've found Xscope to be the fastest browser I've ever used.
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iPhone/iPad browser = webkit
EVO browser = webkit
How is this a browser comparison?
Edit: now that I have already posted, I'll actually read the article lol
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Just because both are Webkit doesn't mean they are the same.
For example, iOS has more supported HTML5 standards than Android. They may be both Webkit but one can support older or newer standards/features of Webkit. On top of that, Javascript engines are something else entirely. The one in iOS is currently much faster. If you remember back in 2010, Froyo used to be the fastest. Altogether it's perplexing why Google didn't bring in Chrome's engine (or some scalable variation of it) into Gingerbread. I use Chrome exclusively because of it's JS speed (among other things).
eh dont care either way
BrianDigital said:
eh dont care either way
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So, your contribution to the conversation is "I just like to hear myself talk."
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I think it matters. Faster REAL browser performance, not this unreliable load time BS, will bring what I really want: true open HTML5/JS web applications with great user experiences. You could have super impressive apps that no longer require the App Store or Android Market and that are cross platform as long as your browser is compliant. Just go to the website, create a shortcut on your homescreen and have full on and offline access.
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this +1
although sometimes I switch over to dolphin because xScope seem to have issues with a few sites...
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They weren't testing with the safari browser
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-iphone-in-real-world-web-tests-says-firm.ars
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I heart Ars.
and completely unsurprised by this, something smelled fishy about the claim.
Android web browser isn't that bad, but compared to my dads 3gs that he had, and even his iphone 4, Safari did not load faster than what the Android browser did, but it was a hell of a lot smoother even with flash uninstalled off my Evo. Apple may not have had the fastest hardware and doesn't have the fastest right now, but they sure know how to optimize it.
the stock browser sucks. i only use opera mini or miren.
ok, never mind
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. Altogether it's perplexing why Google didn't bring in Chrome's engine (or some scalable variation of it) into Gingerbread. I use Chrome exclusively because of it's JS speed (among other things).
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Amen to that. I sort of shrugged when it didn't make into GB (figured it was a phone thing) but I was genuinely shocked to see it not make it into the HoneyComb tablets. That still seems like a major face-palm to me.
The browser on the MIUI rom is smooth as mess.
Though MIUI is known to copy a lot of stuff from iphone, I still make my phone look different... but it is good to get the smoothness that the iphone achieves.
I believe the reason the gui of Ios is smooth because unlike Android, it's hardware accelerated.
I know the stock is not as smooth as IOS but what about hardware accelerated browsers like dolphin and opera? Is it silky smooth like the ipad?
Mine stock seems pretty damned smooth. It renders text quickly and once everything is up it scrolls with no hesitation. Of course I have plug-ins set to "on demand" so normally its like the ipad, no flash.
Even with activated flash it's smooth.
As an owner of both an iPad (1st gen) and a TF (Stock and Dolphin) my experiences are:
Websites optimised for tablet/mobile - No difference worth noting
Full desktop websites with lots of pictures - TF faster to render, Ipad a little smoother to scroll
Websites with flash and lots of dynamic content - TF wins hands down.
At the end of the day both of these devices look awful next to Chrome on win64 but they are starting to feel like decent browsers.
Completely subjective: All in all the iPad always "feels" a little smoother to me at everything. Web, just using the OS and everything. But it's a funny comparison - It's quite clearly not as good at any of the individual tasks and slower in general but somehow feels more graceful at the same time. I geuss that's the whole thing with apple though. Personally - I prefer the functionality of the TF.
With the latest update of opera I don't see how it can be smoother
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If you turn off the open GL rendering the browser is extremely fast. The rendering isn't even needed.
With the new Opera Mobile 11, I could finally go back to the 2010 mode instead of the classic mode on xda.....
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Websites optimised for tablet/mobile ...
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Oh, that reminds me, that I forgot to mention, that my stock browser is set to desktop instead of mobile ... the later makes no sense on a WiFi-only tablet in my opinion ... except when tethered to a cell phone maybe.
Also worth mentioning is, that the stock browser doesn't render some bad designed sites correctly ... e.g. golem.de
As a good alternative for such cases I use the tablet version of Maxthon, which is realy great, but also has two downsides ... it doesn't have a fast scroll button and it has problems with popup content like the player of accujazz.com radio. The stock browser does a better job here though not perfect.
Maybe a third browser is needed
I didn't try Opera so far because it's said, that flash implementation is still Beta state.
Personally - I prefer the functionality of the TF.
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As all others here too
As long as you aren't a professional photographer, who needs the more accurate colours & higher colour depth (real 24 bit) and RAW image conversion iPad is the worse choice.
Hackers might be the second group of people who might prefer the iPad ... I noticed, that WiFi hacking tools e.g. are available there, but not on android ... astonishing fact, isn't it?
I find HC browsers faster than the iPad one (I only tested iPad 1) on most sites. On some with a lot of flash they can be slow. Smoother? Didn't notice, didn't care.
eli.kennedy describe the differences quite accurately to what I experienced.
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Mine appears smoother with it on.
The iPad2's browser is much faster and smoother than the iPad 1's. It renders about 4 times faster.
I find the ipad2 browser much smoother than anything on my transformer. If browsing is the reason to have a tablet, AND you do not care about flash, than the iPad2 is a great choice.
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The iPad2's browser is much faster and smoother than the iPad 1's. It renders about 4 times faster.
I find the ipad2 browser much smoother than anything on my transformer. If browsing is the reason to have a tablet, AND you do not care about flash, than the iPad2 is a great choice.
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Really, I can't understand why anyone smart enough to hangout on XDA would be recommending a locked-down, locked-in turd like the iPad2 (which is basically the default choice for people either too stupid, or too lazy to explore alternatives).
Sure there may currently be a lag problem with the Transformers browser when docked with the keyboard, but there are plenty of workarounds, like using the vastly superior Opera 11 browser, and it's doesn't affect page rendering speed, which blows the iPad2 out of the water.
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... lag problem with the Transformers browser when docked with the keyboard, but there are plenty of workarounds, like using the vastly superior Opera 11 browser...
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I didn't know this is a known problem. I just got my Eee and dock and have been trying to fix this lag on a browser issue, but no go.
I tried changing the browser (Dolphin HD), change the Keyboard (Uses Asus and Android).
What is the workaround?
Heavily embedded java severely slows down the browser which is not an issue on other HC devices, or in fact, on the TF with Opera 11 so it should, and will get fixed.
Other than that, the browser is really zippy. As zippy as the Ipad 2. When your on par with speed, plus chrome bookmark syncing, tabbed browsing and flash, its no contest whose the winner.
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Heavily embedded java severely slows down the browser which is not an issue on other HC devices, or in fact, on the TF with Opera 11 so it should, and will get fixed.
Other than that, the browser is really zippy. As zippy as the Ipad 2. When your on par with speed, plus chrome bookmark syncing, tabbed browsing and flash, its no contest whose the winner.
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I have tried accessing website with little Javascript embedded and still see the lag in both stock browser and Dolphin HD. So are you saying, currently, ONLY Opera 11 does NOT exhibit this problem?
Opera 11.1 seems to be the best, smoothest, most fluid browser yet. I prefer it over the stock, firefox, dolphin, etc. It just is so damn near-perfect.
What we'd like I'm sure is a full desktop port of Firefox and Chrome so we all have access to those delicious addons and extensions.
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I have tried accessing website with little Javascript embedded and still see the lag in both stock browser and Dolphin HD. So are you saying, currently, ONLY Opera 11 does NOT exhibit this problem?
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For me at least.
This page here:
http://proximityone.com/demographics2020.htm
was lagging for me in the stock browser, and works perfectly in Opera. I also can type in XDA easily while in Opera but in stock I cannot. Goggle instant works well in Opera but in stock it does not. Google apps such as reader, gmail, etc.. within the browser works well in Opera while the stock does not. This is the pattern I am making an assumption on.
All of which are non-issues in the stock browser for the Xoom. So, something has to be up with the stock browser.
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This page here ... was lagging for me in the stock browser ...
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Strange, it works nice in my Stock Browser and scrolls pretty fast and smooth.
I also can type in XDA easily while in Opera but in stock I cannot.
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I currently write this answer in the stock browser without problems, except a slight keyboard lag. Btw ... the Android keyboard seems to work better in the stock browser than the Asus one.
Very strange, why do we have such different experiences? You Run Android 3.1, don't you?
Yes, I am running 3.1 in stock ROM, rooted. No any other customizations
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Yes, I am running 3.1 in stock ROM, rooted.
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Mine isn't rooted so far. Can the rooting play a roll?
It's like the stock browser on steroids. I gave up on this browser month's ago and never thought i'll go back affer the countless FCs and lag. What did they do differently this time?
I tried the HD a while back and then uninstalled it, after it kept FC'ing me in Google+ trying to read Yegges post. Has it improved that much?
Opera is still faster. I used to love dolphin HD, but one day I installed every browser I could find and ran some tests. The conclusion, opera was blazingly faster. I also downloaded this new Dolphin and still prefer Opera.
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Opera is still faster. I used to love dolphin HD, but one day I installed every browser I could find and ran some tests. The conclusion, opera was blazingly faster. I also downloaded this new Dolphin and still prefer Opera.
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Can't figure out how to force opera to display deskop settings.
Opera button-Settings-advanced-user agent
You better make sure you have the right opera also, because they have an ultra fast one that only displays in mobile views.
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The problem with opera is that the fonts are too small compared to stock
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The problem with opera is that the fonts are too small compared to stock
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So just change the settings
how do you do that? there is just zoom
and if you use zoom on websites with tables, the tables will also become bigger, requiring an excessive amount of horizontal scrolling. which makes it pointless
klau1 said:
how do you do that? there is just zoom
and if you use zoom on websites with tables, the tables will also become bigger, requiring an excessive amount of horizontal scrolling. which makes it pointless
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The stock browser fonts are bigger because it uses what it refers to as a "wide viewport." Basically it just enlarges the page to make the fonts and other UI elements match the rest of the Android OS, which are huge compared to the standard fonts and UI elements of desktop operating systems. For instance, the typical task bar on a desktop OS is 24 pixels tall, while Honeycomb's notification bar is 48 pixels tall. If the fonts appear small on your tablet screen, it's because the tablet screen has a much higher DPI than a typical desktop monitor, and current websites are not designed for such a high DPI. Opera is simply displaying the pages as they were originally intended to be displayed on devices of 1280x800 resolution. The problem is that 1280x800 screens used to be 14-15" instead of 10.1".
where have you found v7?? I only see dolphin HD v6.2, dolphin mini 2.2 and for pad v1.0 in the market...
It's not going to be stupid fast, it's going to be the same speed as the stock Android browser, BECAUSE DOLPHIN IS THE STOCK ANDROID BROWSER.
How hard is it to understand that DolphinHD is justa skin on the standard browser, using the same rendering, the same javascript engine, just with a different UI.
Opera Mobile will smoke dolphin, as it's the only mobile browser to use hardware acceleration (not even stock one does), and it very fast anyway.
Tried all browsers. I like Opera best because of the GUI and because it's the fastest IMHO.
Browser, browser, all I want is one with a good working ad blocker.
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Browser, browser, all I want is one with a good working ad blocker.
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Firefox + adblock plus works as good as the desktop version in terms of ad blocking. Sucks in all other terms though.
It can be downloaded from Android market? It seems I only get Dolphin HD 6.2 when I search browser.
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It's not going to be stupid fast, it's going to be the same speed as the stock Android browser, BECAUSE DOLPHIN IS THE STOCK ANDROID BROWSER.
How hard is it to understand that DolphinHD is justa skin on the standard browser, using the same rendering, the same javascript engine, just with a different UI.
Opera Mobile will smoke dolphin, as it's the only mobile browser to use hardware acceleration (not even stock one does), and it very fast anyway.
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Opera mobile does not use hardware acceleration hahaha. Scrolling websites on opera is like 15 frames per second while default browser scrolling is silky smooth like iPad.
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Opera mobile does not use hardware acceleration hahaha. Scrolling websites on opera is like 15 frames per second while default browser scrolling is silky smooth like iPad.
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Then there is something wrong with your opera. Scrolling in Opera is silky smooth on all but the most intensive web sites.
the only reason I keep Dolphin installed is because the Flash Hardware Acceleration fix does not work on Opera, when that is finally fixed, dolphin will be gone too.
3.2 was suppose to bring hardware acceleration for stock browser, but I don't think it did.
For those looking for an ad blocker... Search the market for AdFree....
Seems to work great for me....
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Then there is something wrong with your opera. Scrolling in Opera is silky smooth on all but the most intensive web sites.
the only reason I keep Dolphin installed is because the Flash Hardware Acceleration fix does not work on Opera, when that is finally fixed, dolphin will be gone too.
3.2 was suppose to bring hardware acceleration for stock browser, but I don't think it did.
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open gl rendering is built in to the browser since honeycomb was released, Opera mobile does not have open gl rendering, disable open gl rending in default browser and it will scroll just as bad as Opera.
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open gl rendering is built in to the browser since honeycomb was released, Opera mobile does not have open gl rendering, disable open gl rending in default browser and it will scroll just as bad as Opera.
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Opengl and other technical assertions aside.... You are in the absolute minority of users who actually has a better experience with the stock browser. In there lies the truth. If everyone was experiencing the same performance as you seem to be saying your getting, then threads like this and other browsers in fact would not exist! It's simple supply and demand.
Stock browser blows for the vast majority of users, whether on stock or custom roms /kernels.
What browser do you use? I am trying to find the a browser that has the following features:
1. Smoothness. Must have hardware acceleration enabled. I find that UC Browser HD is good in this section.
2. Has good HTML5 support (tested from html5test.com). I find Dolphin has the best.
3. Has fast javascript.
4. Supports gestures.
5. Supports proper fonts as set by site. For example UC Browser uses system fonts and it sucks..
6. Supports flash.
From my findings so far with Exynos (P600):
UC Browser is the smoothest because of hardware acceleration, has gestures, has flash, html5 support is good but not good at rendering fonts.
Dolphin with jetpack is close in smoothness but swiping up and down is too fast and the page goes to its top or bottom by a slight touch. Has the best html5 support and the gestures are not so great as UC.
Chrome beta is a bit behind in smoothness, great html5 score but lacks in gestures and no flash. I don't even discuss Chrome (plain), it is very jerky.
Firefox is a big dissapointment. I think however that Note 3 is great with firefox. I need some opinions from the Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon users for Firefox (P601, P605).
Maxthon sucks bigtime. Your opinions please and if there is a dev that can suggest a speedup for a browser is welcome.
PS: I use a SM-P600 and have CleanRom and Bindroid kernel.
Dolphin with JetPack is a very good combination for html5 support but without jetpack is far from Opera Browser...
i have tested a lot of web browsers and the best browsers i found were Opera Browser, Boat Browser, and UC Browser (this one always freezes with no reason)
Opera, for overall smoothness. I use Outlook. Com to check my emails and Opera does the best rendering for that site too. Only gripe is the tiny fonts.
Opera the best for me .
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I use different browsers for different things but my list in no particular order
Chrome
UC Browser HD
Opera
Firefox
Dolphin w/ jetpack
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Opera is perfect for me..I was using Chrome .
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You guys might wanna try Habit Browser (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ddo.pigsty.HabitBrowser). It is fast&smooth and extremly customizable. Probably the most feature packed browser in existance.
It takes some time to set it up and the menus might overwhelm at first but once you're done its amazing.
UC might become my primary browser in the future, but there are some issues (like font size) that need to be worked out first.
I use the aosp browser on this tablet and all my devices I find it fast enough and I like the quick controls
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Boat browser for tablets
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Boat browser for tablets
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with floating windows is the best!!!
Naked Browser is the fastest.
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Boat browser for tablets
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with floating windows is the best!!!
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After reading your post I decided to give Boat a try. I must say I am impressed. So impressed I deleted Dolphin
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I am using different browser. They are: Chrome, Firefox, Stock Browser and Skyfire Web Browser.
But I use Chrome most often because it is synchronized with my PC chrome and it supports pages translation..
You got the right man here.... uc browser ftw dude xD..... i contacted the developers several times and they listened and added my features .... like the scrolling button which appears when you scroll very hard ... that comes from me telling them haha xD im their nr 1 tester xD.... I tested like almost every browser .... some come close but fail at smth....
And dude I advise you dont upgrade to kitkat... because you will have to stick with dolphin which freaking sucks your battery dry by playing flash.... 10 percent in 1 minute no lies happened to me.... if you have trouble with font size try ...exposed module "app settings" its awesome...you can even enable fullscreen mode which hides the status bar.... i am all about that stuff.... if you have more questions contact me... ill give you some advise.... those previous comments really have no clue what browsers to use ...... uc is the best ... i kinda would have wished for a decent firefox browser... but that thing is just so bad...... Uc browser dude there is nothing better... i even use an older version of it on my note 2 .... i wanted a browser which comes close to firefox on desktop.... uc is the choice.... other browsers have issues that casual user dont notice but there are there.... these ppl will recommend you any kind of random browser .... uc nails it for a great UI ... adblock and widget buttons... and much more.... it comes closer to perfection every update ... try contact the devs for the font issue..... it doesnt bother me ... so....
I use Firefox Beta because I can syncrhonize it with my desktop-firefox and it's the only browser that does not corrupt downloadsand websites of my university.
i use aosp brower
so so fast
Floating boat+lecture notes = no lag while writing and using web.
If anyone has used boat, and found something better then I'll try it .
I use boat browser on all my devices as my default.
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I use boat browser on all my devices as my default.
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I tried it and love it, especially how fast and fluid it is, but is there any way to sync chrome bookmarks? Chrome has broken me bad in that regard.
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There is no point just saying which browser someone uses without mentioning their model. The P600 is exynos which behaves differently than the P601/P605. Please state your browser along with your model as smoothness is subjective to the processor.