[Q] Full restore mt4g? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When i restore.. Isn't it supposed to bring back exactly what i had before?
I just was trying to flash a few new fonts. i didn't like one. and the others weren't flashing over.
Before i did this. I backed up.
Now. When i try to restore that backup. It backs up. But it makes me relogin to my gmail. doesn't have all my apps. and isn't set up the way i had it.
Help?

Frankasaurus said:
When i restore.. Isn't it supposed to bring back exactly what i had before?
I just was trying to flash a few new fonts. i didn't like one. and the others weren't flashing over.
Before i did this. I backed up.
Now. When i try to restore that backup. It backs up. But it makes me relogin to my gmail. doesn't have all my apps. and isn't set up the way i had it.
Help?
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Well when you do a nandroid back up it takes a snapshot of your entire OS and the fashion that you left it. If you are trying to do a "restore" by selecting factory wipe from Recovery or hBoot it will wipe everything. including the Log in and the applications. It brings the phone back to a like new status.
If you are wanting to go back to a previous font that you liked, including applications you need to restore from a Nandroid backup.

So i can still do it with the backups that i have? i just have to do it through a nandroid backup? or do i have to start all over and next time. do a nandroid backup?

Frankasaurus said:
So i can still do it with the backups that i have? i just have to do it through a nandroid backup? or do i have to start all over and next time. do a nandroid backup?
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If you have a previous nandroid backup yes you can restore it. boot into recovery > factory wipe > backup/restore > restore > select the package that you want to restore.
before flashing anything serious you should do a nandroid backup anyway
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boot in recovery > backup/restore > backup
, and keep the newest one. They can take up a chunk of room so you might want to delete the older ones.

What i mean is. Before. I've been backing it up through clockwork. Going into the actual app. they hitting backup current rom.
That wouldn't be a nandroid backup. so those are useless except for bringing it to brand new with the rom on there?
Sorry. haha. just trying to be clear.

This thread just confused what was supposed to be a simple one-two process.

Frankasaurus said:
What i mean is. Before. I've been backing it up through clockwork. Going into the actual app. they hitting backup current rom.
That wouldn't be a nandroid backup. so those are useless except for bringing it to brand new with the rom on there?
Sorry. haha. just trying to be clear.
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That is preforming android back up. i just hate using the application it's just as easy to boot into recovery and do the same thing.
so those are useless except for bringing it to brand new with the rom on there?
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I have no clue what you are asking. on this one.
A nandroid restore will put you back to the exact point where you made the back up.

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Nandroid + Titanium: Strange result

Before upgrading to the leaked 2.2 ROM, I did a full Nandroid and Titanium backup. After playing with the new ROM, I decided to go back to my old setup: 2.1 + leaked OTA.
I restored using Nandroid, expecting everything to look exactly the same as I left it - meaning all my apps, scenes, widgets, emails, SMS, etc from my last 2.1 setup would be in tact. Instead, what I got was 7 empty home screens, Swype no longer installed (or at least checkmarked to run in settings), and a bunch of apps that wanted to be reinstalled. I thought Nandroid was supposed to fully restore your system to the exact same appearance and function as when the backup was performed? What happened?
Luckily (or so I thought), I also had a Titanium backup. I had it reinstall all my apps + system settings, but again: my homescreens were still blank and my Swype still wasn't working. Most of my apps got their data back, with the exception of Touchdown, which said it was corrupt. I finally was able to restore some, but not all of my homescreens (sans widgets) by manually going through Titanium and clicking on a system file called: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.0.
My questions are, why didn't Nandroid fully restore everything? And, why did I have to manually click on that file in Titanium to get it to restore my homescreens, even though I'd already told it to restore all apps+system files? Makes me wonder what else I'm missing and need to manually click on.
I have to say, this is the one drawback of the Android system vs Blackberry. It seems nearly impossible to get a clean, full restore.
I likewise did a nandroid backup, reverted to stock, updated radio & applied the 2.2 leak. Tried it out and nandroid restored back to my 2.1 install. Everything was as it should be, fully restored.
Not sure what you did wrong.
elborak said:
I likewise did a nandroid backup, reverted to stock, updated radio & applied the 2.2 leak. Tried it out and nandroid restored back to my 2.1 install. Everything was as it should be, fully restored.
Not sure what you did wrong.
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I didn't do anything wrong. I simply went into Titanium, hit "Backup all apps + settings," then restarted into Clockwork recovery and used "backup" through Nandroid.
When I restored, I hit "restore" in Nandroid. Then I hit, "Restore all apps+settings" in Titanium.
I don't trust the Android system's backup applications and fail-safes, largely because they're anything but.
elborak said:
I likewise did a nandroid backup, reverted to stock, updated radio & applied the 2.2 leak. Tried it out and nandroid restored back to my 2.1 install. Everything was as it should be, fully restored.
Not sure what you did wrong.
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Did you revert back to stock 2.1 or stock 2.1 + leaked OTA? I did the latter.
I havent had any problems with Nandroid. Even went right from the crap 2.2 back to the OTA in one click. I also used titanium backup...but just for my apps. Try only backing up your apps+data...leave the system alone. Then nandroid then install just the apps. I would maybe reroot if it persists.
Stockmoose16 said:
I didn't do anything wrong.
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Not trying to be insulting, but I've seen many reports of folks doing nandroid restoring after trying out 2.2 and no one else (that I've seen) has had the issue you are having. The obvious conclusion is...
When I restored, I hit "restore" in Nandroid. Then I hit, "Restore all apps+settings" in Titanium.
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Why did you do a Titanium restore? You do know what a nandroid backup/restore does, right? The Titanium restore should have been harmless, but it was also 100% unnecessary.
The first time I did a nandroid restore, I wasn't paying attenttion and just asumed the backup file listed first was the most recent, (i.e. in descending order by date/time). But later found out (by taking the time to look), that the latest backup was on the bottom of the llist.

Is Nandroid 100% original backup ?

Asking because I never had reboot before and after restoring with Nandroid I get reboots and some errors in navigation
nandroid doesn't change kernel, recovery, baseband or radio.
it does restore everything else.
zaduma said:
nandroid doesn't change kernel, recovery, baseband or radio.
it does restore everything else.
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I didn't change any of that....just applied lag fix and then did nandroid restore. Never had a reboot issue before......I have to say that restore point was NEW flash odin install with root, before I had original unflashed phone.
kolyan said:
I didn't change any of that....just applied lag fix and then did nandroid restore. Never had a reboot issue before......I have to say that restore point was NEW flash odin install with root, before I had original unflashed phone.
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Can you clarify what you did there? Not sure I understand.
I'm trying to determine whether or not a lag fix (ext2 loopback file) will survive a nandroid backup/restore onto a new stock phone. I'm thinking that the safest thing would be to backup with Titanium, undo the lag fix, make a nandroid backup and restore onto the new phone. THEN, apply the lag fix to the new phone.
Perhaps I should leave this nandroid backup out of it altogether with these lag fixes. It seems we are asking for trouble. At least with Titanium, most everything will be backed up anyway. And then, they can be restored onto a bare, lag fixed phone.
EDIT: It appears there are several who are having problems restoring a Tit backup after a lag fix, which really makes no sense as to why that would happen.
Installed fresh rom with odin. Did one click root. Installed all my apps from market and removed bloatware. Backedup. Then done lag fix and then undone it, but just in case also done nadroid restore.
Personally and I do mean personally before I do anything out of the ordinary like Lag fixes or hacking away at any of my files I create a Backup via Clockwork. Of course they live on my SD card, but I also back them up onto a PC at home. With my G1 it would trash the SD card all the time for some odd reason so it was smart to rebuild the partion via RA_Recovery and then just copy over the Nandroid backups and flash away.
Always inportant to tag each backup with a quick discription to make sure you know what is what because dates do get confusing.
2010-08-09-Time-BFR-Lag = 2010-08-09-Time-Before Lag Fix
So if I screw things up I can easily restore to that point because one reason or another I'm not going to be happy. Heck if I decide I'm not to sure about a fix I create another backup 2010-08-09-Time-AFR-Lag = 2010-08-09-Time-After Lag Fix
I now can test before and after and restore back and forth constantly until I decide what I want or where I want to stay.
Heck the first thing I did after I installed ClockWork was a backup, which would put me right back at Stock minus some of the bloat apps.

Compete Android OS Image restoration / backup?

Hey all,
When I had my Windows mobile phone, I could use Sprite Backup to make a backup that basically acted as an image that I could store on the SD Card. I could then do anything possible to my phone, and then I could simply restore the image, and it went back to the EXACT state it was when i took the image - registry, ALL apps, messages, icons, etc..., just like a 100% hard drive image.
I have Sprite backup on my Samsung Epic now, and was wondering if it acted the same way?
That is, if I install a custom rom, I would like to be able to factory restore it, then apply the backup to take it back to the exact state it was.
Is this how it works?
Thanks,
Matt!
It's called a nand backup and one of the benefits of rooting
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Great,
I'm rooted, so I'll. Check it out....
Thanks!
Get the one click root and recovery. Once you have clockwork mod you can do a full backup. Also you can do an "advanced restore" and just restore your /data.
I have found that sometimes a restore doesn't work correctly and I have to reflash the rom and just restore /data to put my apps and settings back.
A word of warning, sometimes when you flash an old /data to a new rom it causes issues with programs. Personally, I have had very few issues doing it, even when moving between 2.1 and 2.2.1, but ymmv.

[Q] No nandroid on Clockwork 3.0.2.4?

Is there a reason that I don't have nandroid backup on ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.2.4? My backup and restore menu only has "backup" and "restore". I'm being picky but the word nandroid is nowhere in these menus.
tinpanalley said:
Is there a reason that I don't have nandroid backup on ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.2.4? My backup and restore menu only has "backup" and "restore". I'm being picky but the word nandroid is nowhere in these menus.
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Back up is what you are looking for. No recovery has the phrase Nandroid Backup
Oh, ok.. Weird. I could have sworn the clockwork version I used to use on my 3G Slide actually said "nandroid backup" in the menu.
Just wanted to make sure I actually did the right kind of backup. Then, no matter what I flash now, as long as I restore this file, I'm back to where I am right now, correct?
Affirmitive. Saved my bacon many times now...
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yep, just make sure you store your backup on a harddrive and or offsite storage to make sure you dont lose it.
And two more things to confirm:
1. Will the Titanium backup I did for my apps and settings will reload in any new ROM flawlessly?
2. Do I really not need a stock T-Mo ROM to go back to? The backup will restore perfectly as though my phone had never been flashed to being with?
LewsTherin006 said:
yep, just make sure you store your backup on a harddrive and or offsite storage to make sure you dont lose it.
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Drop box works wonders for this.
tinpanalley said:
Oh, ok.. Weird. I could have sworn the clockwork version I used to use on my 3G Slide actually said "nandroid backup" in the menu.
Just wanted to make sure I actually did the right kind of backup. Then, no matter what I flash now, as long as I restore this file, I'm back to where I am right now, correct?
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Let me rephrase that. Clockwork ROM doesn't use that phrasing. some other developers might...
tinpanalley said:
And two more things to confirm:
1. Will the Titanium backup I did for my apps and settings will reload in any new ROM flawlessly?
2. Do I really not need a stock T-Mo ROM to go back to? The backup will restore perfectly as though my phone had never been flashed to being with?
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1. As long as there is not an issue with the ROM, or a bad download or something, Titanium will restore your apps and data.
2. If you do not have a ROM backed up at all, it is a good idea to make a backup of the stock just in case something goes wrong. After you have a couple backups, there is really no reason to keep the stock ROM...

[Q] From custom to stock again

So I haven't really used any custom ROMs due to the huge work needed after flashing one, I have too many apps installed and save games that I don't wish to lose.
Well I've decided to check out a few of the ROMs today and see which one I will like best, but I would first like to ask how I would back up my stock ROM is the first place. Now as far as I know you can do a nandroid backup using CWM and so I did that, it made a backup of my stock ROM along with data files off all the apps.
Now let's say I've been with this custom ROM for a few weeks and I'm sick of it, and I would like to return to the stock one. Can I restore stock by flashing CWM again, going to the backup menu and choose restore and then browse to the backup I made? Will it restore my stock ROM + data without problems?
Another thing I'm curious to know is, what's the best way to backup all of my apps along with their save games so that I can restore them to the custom ROM once I've flashed it? I've read about Titanium Backup but I do not see a "Select all" option, backup one after another would be a pain.
I hope I didnt confuse anyone with all these questions.
Use batch operation in TBackup
It allows u to backup n restore all apps+data
You can restore ur backup
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alkesh95 said:
Use batch operation in TBackup
It allows u to backup n restore all apps+data
You can restore ur backup
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Stupid me, how could I have not noticed that option. Thanks I have just started backing everything up, I suppose the correct option is "Backup all user apps + system data"?
As for the stock ROM backup, will it work as I said? I've read that CWM has bugs when it comes to restoring such nandroid backups. Also do I need to wipe cache and data before I can restore my stock nandroid backup?
Mitko said:
Stupid me, how could I have not noticed that option. Thanks I have just started backing everything up, I suppose the correct option is "Backup all user apps + system data"?
As for the stock ROM backup, will it work as I said? I've read that CWM has bugs when it comes to restoring such nandroid backups. Also do I need to wipe cache and data before I can restore my stock nandroid backup?
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1) Yes, its the correct option. It even backups save games and the entire data
2) It doesnt matter if you wipe data or not. But its fine if you dont do that. I dont wipe data at every nandroid restore and had no problems. Either way its the same, no need to worry about this. CWM backups wont restore or give some problems only when you restore a backup with different kernel. For restoring to work perfectly , the present kernel(before restore) and to be restored kernel must be the same.
hitme987 said:
1) Yes, its the correct option. It even backups save games and the entire data
2) It doesnt matter if you wipe data or not. But its fine if you dont do that. I dont wipe data at every nandroid restore and had no problems. Either way its the same, no need to worry about this. CWM backups wont restore or give some problems only when you restore a backup with different kernel. For restoring to work perfectly , the present kernel(before restore) and to be restored kernel must be the same.
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Great, thank you.
For now I have transfered all the files from my TitaniumBackup folder to my computer. I am planning on transferring them back to my SD card once the ROM flashing is complete. After I put the TitaniumBackup folder on my SD card, I install Titanium Backup again and it will read the backups right? Then all I do is choose the option to restore them all and it will work with no problems?
Sorry again for too much questions but I always like to be on the safe side when doing such things, :angel: I crapped my pants when I ended up with a bootloop on my old phone :laugh:
Mitko said:
Great, thank you.
For now I have transfered all the files from my TitaniumBackup folder to my computer. I am planning on transferring them back to my SD card once the ROM flashing is complete. After I put the TitaniumBackup folder on my SD card, I install Titanium Backup again and it will read the backups right? Then all I do is choose the option to restore them all and it will work with no problems?
Sorry again for too much questions but I always like to be on the safe side when doing such things, :angel: I crapped my pants when I ended up with a bootloop on my old phone :laugh:
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Yes, It will detect. Restoring should go fine
Thanks. I will let you know with results.
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Thanks it worked.
Good luck to your new custom ROM
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Good luck to your new custom ROM
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Thanks I'm already enjoying it.

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