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Galaxy Tab official reveal at IFA Berlin

In case no one had seen this yet:
http://gizmodo.com/5627498/samsungs-galaxy-tab-takes-on-the-ipad-just-like-android-does-the-iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
Includes hands on video in the Engadget link. Gotta say, very impressed. Only let down might be that they didn't manage a SAMOLED screen, but the one they chose looks good so far.
Also, conflicting reports on the CPU. Gizmodo and that press sheet say A8, Engadget says A9. My money is on the same Hummingbird that's in the Galaxy S though.
The Samsung GALAXY Tab (GT-P1000) Product Specifications
Network
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G (HSUPA 5.76Mbps, HSDPA 7.2Mbps) : 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
OS
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Display
7.0 inch TFT-LCD, WSVGA (1024 x 600)
Processor
Cortex A8 1.0GHz Application Processor with PowerVR SGX540
Camera
3 MP Camera with Auto-Focus and LED Flash
1.3MP front camera for Video Telephony
Value-added
Features
Android Market™ and Samsung Apps for more applications and contents
Readers Hub, Media Hub* , Music Hub*, Social Hub
*Availability will be decided by market preference.
Adobe Flash 10.1 player support
Full HD video playback, Thinkfree Office, Swype, Hybrid Widget
Connectivity
30 pin connector
WiFi 802.11n / Bluetooth® 3.0
Sensor
Gyroscope sensor, Geo-magnetic sensor, Accelerometer, Light sensor
Memory
16G / 32G internal memory with up to 32G external memory slot
RAM: 512 MB
Size
190.09 x 120.45 x 11.98mm, 380g
Battery
4,000mAh (7 hour movie play)
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I just want to know the price.

If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!

rmanaudio said:
If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!
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how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...

matty___ said:
how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...
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If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.

yea $399 seems like a fair price..

Apparently a finnish press release (by email) set the price to 949€ (~$1200)... Which is somewhat higher than the "fair" price you wish for... I doubt they will sell very many if that's accurate. And it pisses me off that they didn't toss in a 1280x720 screen... I don't care if Android doesn't support the resolution.. It's not like it's impossible to make it support it, it's OPEN SOURCE.

rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100

matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.

I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.

MORE IMPORTANT:
- This equipment is very similar to our SGS and will be updated to Gingerbread (Android 3.0)
- Someone from Samsung mentioned they're working already in Honeycomb (Android 3.X)!
Long life to SGS is garanteed!
BTW: Did someone find any benchmark figures from the SGT?

Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
Samsung Galaxy S Series
----Galaxy S General & News
----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk
----Galaxy S Android Development
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
-----------------Galaxy S [model ID pending] Tab [T]
----Galaxy S Accessories
-----------------Galaxy S International [I9][I9B][I9M][I9C][K]
-----------------Galaxy S USA models [F][C][V]
-----------------Galaxy S Epic 4G [E]
----Galaxy S Applications & Themes
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i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already

matty___ said:
Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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Samsung Tablets: Gingerbread, Honeycomb, a 'full portfolio' in 2011:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-tablets-gingerbread-honeycomb-full-portfolio-2011

rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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No, iPad is $640 range sans for the 3G, (there are some reports there will be a wifi-only but I happen to believe the reports that all will have a cell radio, even if coming disabled by default unless sold by a carrier...end part my speculation):
a camera, let alone two
dual band wireless N
expandable storage
pixel density (sacrficing screen size, but increasing holdability and portability)
flash support
...no point in going on, they are going all out, Apple held something back
form factors & OS to be argued, but I think Apple-Central (Engadget) themselves said they like this one for it's one-handed possibilities, better for e-reading due to the pixel density, weight and form factor
I can tell you that it's main competitor in Korea is coming in at less than $300 US without a contract and free on contract (less than $30/month wi-bro contract). This is definitely a better device, but if we can see other non-Apple's doing cheap then we can see this having great options as well.
I definitely expect this in the 400-500 range, $500 is a bit of a shame for people that will go without a data plan, but it is what it is and adds future flexibility.
matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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They won't price these based on exchance rates, that's not how the market works, they price these to what the customers can bear. For example, in England the iPad starts at 429 pounds, in Germany and France the iPad starts at 500 Euro, in the U.S. it starts at $500 USD. Expect Samsung to price according to market as well, and for this to be 400+ Euro.
rmanaudio said:
Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.
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The iPhone costs more than the base iPad, you are looking at subsidized pricing versus non-subsidized pricing...there's a difference. Again, comparing this to an iPad isn't correct on many levels. First, some people have never been interested in the iPad even if they are mildly or majorly tickled by the idea of having a tablet device. Next, for those who want the GSM version, $400 would be more than $200 cheaper than the iPad, the iPad would be priced more than 50% higher than this! They don't need to undercut them that much, look above and feel free to comment back.
As far as "teethering" goes I swear I've read teethering like 3 times in 2 weeks, is this a new internet meme (anyone can answer and sorry for being slightly off-topic, I'm not the grammar police, just trying to be educated on what's hip )
AllGamer said:
not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already
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I think many, many of us knew. At least those that read the webblogs, this thing has more leaks than the Bush Administration (eh, probably could've done better, but hey).

INeedYourHelp said:
I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.
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Ooo, now I get to ask my question. I love the Galaxy S, but how many people with a Galaxy S are in the market for this device? I'm really curious, I'd be more tempted by their other offerings in 2011 which will be more feature packed and give me more screen real estate (read, less redundant). I do think the device is sexy, but right now I don't see myself buying one, but am open-minded and want to hear opinions on both sides.

i'll be a nice companion for our phone, to replace a laptop

Cool maybe for the galaxy as well then
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The screen is based on TFT, instead of AMOLED, which Samsung uses on some of its smartphones. The concession was made to lower the cost of the product and improve battery life, which should last up to eight hours, according to Samsung.
On the front is a 1.3-megapixel camera for video calls or conferencing, and on the back a 3-megapixel camera with a LED lamp. The Tab weighs 380 grams, and measures 19 centimeters by 12 cm by 1.2 cm.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9183318/Update_Samsung_launches_Galaxy_Tab?taxonomyId=15
with that screen and camera short coming, i think i'll stick with the Phone version better

If it had Super AMOLED display + 1GB RAM and got 2G+3G removed, I'd be very interested.
However, I think tablets should get cheaper. I mean... netbooks are getting cheaper day by day and you can buy a decent one with $250-300. I know that tablets are more portable and time-efficient since they don't need booting, but the pricing isn't attractive at all.

eLocity A10 pre-order on Feb. 15th.

Check out the whole story:
http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/04/elocity-a10-pre-order-begins-feb-15th/
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

Few things, it looks as only 3 of the 7 models are up first.. the 4GB at $399, the 32GB at $599, and the 64GB at $699. True multi-touch this time, for all of you
Also, they look to be debuting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) and not Android 3.0 (Honeycomb).
Still the hardware is top notch... I am sure the developers here will have fun with it..
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

I think they can't sell devices with Android 3.0
Google approved sellings to Motorola Xoom and T-MOBILE G-Slate. Then top companies will go. Other companies must wait till May or June
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5[Strogino] said:
I think they can't sell devices with Android 3.0
Google approved sellings to Motorola Xoom and T-MOBILE G-Slate. Then top companies will go. Other companies must wait till May or June
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I had to go back and look at the press material I received at CES 2011 about the eLocity A10. It actually does state that it would be released with Froyo and upgraded to Honeycomb once it is made available to them....
I agree that Motorola and LG seem have been working with Google awhile on Honeycomb and will be the first out of the gate with Honeycomb tablets, then we will see it available on the lesser known brands.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

I am watching this one VERY closely
I have two requirements for my next tablet - a Tegra 2 CPU (or better) and an IPS screen. So this one sounds like it fits the bill, assuming it doesn't get delayed into the summer.

I'm tempted by true multi-touch and IPS, but I really like the 7" form factor. It fits in my coat(s) pocket and I can thumb type like a madman. I would like a bigger screen, but you can't have it both ways.
I don't get the 10" form factor. Everybody I know who owns an iPad bought a case that you can prop it up with. I asked why and the answer was it's it's too heavy/akward to hold in one hand and you need to set it down to type on it.
I say don't try to compete with Apple in the 10" range, make an 12" version (8.5 x 11?) and include the prop case with it! To me once it doesn't fit in your pocket and it's too heavy to hold, you really just have a touch screen laptop. It seems that is what every iPad owner I know is turning their's into.

roebeet said:
I have two requirements for my next tablet - a Tegra 2 CPU (or better) and an IPS screen. So this one sounds like it fits the bill, assuming it doesn't get delayed into the summer.
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My guess will be in customers hands before the end of March...
I think they would be wise to make sure this is the case.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

5[Strogino] said:
I think they can't sell devices with Android 3.0
Google approved sellings to Motorola Xoom and T-MOBILE G-Slate. Then top companies will go. Other companies must wait till May or June
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Now that Motorola Xoom is priced at $799 and I am sure the LG G-Slate will sell for more with its 3D screen and cameras I am sure people wont mind waiting a few months to have Honeycomb on a nice dual-core unit with a 10inch IPS multi-touch screen with the highest resolution on the market.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

cpg716 said:
Now that Motorola Xoom is priced at $799 and I am sure the LG G-Slate will sell for more with its 3D screen and cameras I am sure people wont mind waiting a few months to have Honeycomb on a nice dual-core unit with a 10inch IPS multi-touch screen with the highest resolution on the market.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com
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Yep. I just notice, that over "approve sellings" i mean Android 3.0 out-of-box.
Google can't deny other companies sell tablets with Android 2.2 and it's a good trick to start sellings before top-companies will go. And promise upgrade, like Notion Ink did.
If Stream TV Network will sell new tablets when Motorla will start Xoom's sellings - people will get choice:
Tablet with 2.2 today for 400$ and upgrade in future
or
Tablet with 3.0 today for 800$
Good business struggle - satisfied customers

If roebeet is signing up for this sign me up to.

5[Strogino] said:
Yep. I just notice, that over "approve sellings" i mean Android 3.0 out-of-box.
Google can't deny other companies sell tablets with Android 2.2 and it's a good trick to start sellings before top-companies will go. And promise upgrade, like Notion Ink did.
If Stream TV Network will sell new tablets when Motorla will start Xoom's sellings - people will get choice:
Tablet with 2.2 today for 400$ and upgrade in future
or
Tablet with 3.0 today for 800$
Good business struggle - satisfied customers
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I agree. Just hopefully it won't be Christmas by the time we see it..
CPG
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Google's Android love and hate!
Funny you mentioned the 3.0 release.
I can see things a couple ways. Like Apple Google wants people to see their OS on a device that can actually use it so they are working with those companies to do so. I can understand they want people to get a good user experience and therefore are pushing to the best retail partners. It helps them and helps the companies by having a release before anyone else.
What I do not understand is the price point. I mean I can get a really nice laptop with a quad core, good graphics, huge hda, etc for $800 so why would I buy a tablet that will do a lot of what I want but not as much as I can with a real pc. Since the masses really only know iPad then wouldn't it make sense to start with 3.0 at a price slightly less than Apple? Offer better equipment or at least just as good and sell for a little less. That way when people try it they will be more apt to buying it. As it is now I paid $300 for my a7 and I could have gotten a Apple iPad for $429 refurb which I think is a really fair price for the unit with its hardware plus a feature rich environment and apps galore and Apples OS is very good. Now comes the xoom for $800??? What. I mean if Honeycomb had been out for a year or so and it was a proven OS with features Apple does not have then I could see it but really they should have at least come in around $500. Personally for me I had a hard time justifying my purchase above $300. I wanted a device I could use to replace a mp3 player with additional features. I already have a laptop and desktop so there is no need for the tab except I do need a portable media player and that is where the A7 and its size fit so nicely.
Add to all of this the system that Google has which is very confusing for a consumer who does not know much about android and not having regular updates from Google but through the manufacturer is a horrid choice!! I think Microsoft got one thing right and that is update the OS without manufacturer involvement. I mean any other OS, MS, Apple, Linux all update their os's independent of what machine it is installed on. Then because Google does not have any control the manufacturers will put out what ever version of Android they have slap it on the device and sell it and if you want a new os you have to buy a new tablet??? Apple iPad does not do this. I can get ios 4.2 for free. This is the same way it should work for Android. Instead you have a huge array of devices for sale all running different versions of Android some of which are outdated before they even start selling.
Because of this situation and the fact Honeycomb seems impossible for the a7 I was seriously thinking of a net book. I mean I can get a 250gb hda, 1.6 ghz 455 atom processor, 1 gb ram, incredible screen for $29 more than my elocity and it will have a full OS with a full browser, not a mobile version, and I can do a lot with it. I could install honeycomb on the netbook!! I did it on my laptop before. I could also install Linux which would run nice and have all I need. Problem again is portability. Netbooks are much better than laptops but not as convenient as the tablet and I find the touch screen interface more intuitive. I think as time goes by it will be the future. However, as things are now with Android and not having it on a phone but strictly for tabs the experience is not what I thought it would be. For a linux based os I do not have much control and that is not good.
Just my 2 cents
Robert

I completely understand the "why not just get a netbook / laptop" argument.
But I think tablets have / will sell for a variety of reasons. Part of it is the "cool" factor, having the latest and greatest. And partly because tablets can do things that laptops cannot (I am in the latter category).
Example for myself: I use my R10 for reading comics -- it easily beats a netbook / laptop in this one function. It's relatively fast, its got great battery life, it's light, generates very little heat and has a better screen. The netbook/laptop kills the R10 in other areas, but it all depends on what you want to use your device for.

roebeet said:
I completely understand the "why not just get a netbook / laptop" argument.
But I think tablets have / will sell for a variety of reasons. Part of it is the "cool" factor, having the latest and greatest. And partly because tablets can do things that laptops cannot (I am in the latter category).
Example for myself: I use my R10 for reading comics -- it easily beats a netbook / laptop in this one function. It's relatively fast, its got great battery life, it's light, generates very little heat and has a better screen. The netbook/laptop kills the R10 in other areas, but it all depends on what you want to use your device for.
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Agree totally on this.. Also. People forget unsubsidized cell phones cost $400-$600. Mobile parts are not the same as laptop etc which are much cheaper. Right now even tablets are relying on mobile components. These prices will come down over the next year just as other electronics do. And margin on Laptops/netbooks is horrible. With a new product like tablets companies don't think they need to sacrifice margin yet as these are a "geek" product and we geeks are willing to pay to have the latest and greatest.
The cool factor is a part of it also, and the bleeding technology factor.. I don't think $799 is overpriced for the Xoom, but I do wish it would have started at around $599...
If the eLocity A10 shines, then the $399 price tag will be amazing.. I think StreamTV has learned alot from the A7 release and I am confident they wish to put out a product that will really be a great value.
CPG
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I happened to be on the J&R website today when, to my surprise, the pre-orders for the A10 opened up!
I bought mine right there - shipped, the cost is $439 - and of course no clear indication when I'll actually get it. Still, the timeline seems firm now, and hopefully I'll see my unit in a few weeks.

Just checked out jr.com and it is there for preorder, but it does not say ips screen. The res is higher than gtab or xoom though. Other than the screen res, it is very similar to gtab. Can someone confirm the screen? is it a ips screen?
It has a sim card slot? can we ue a sim card like tmoblie to make calls or data?
thanks in advance.

tyy10002 said:
Just checked out jr.com and it is there for preorder, but it does not say ips screen. The res is higher than gtab or xoom though. Other than the screen res, it is very similar to gtab. Can someone confirm the screen? is it a ips screen?
It has a sim card slot? can we ue a sim card like tmoblie to make calls or data?
thanks in advance.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/216184/hands_on_with_the_streamtv_elocity_a10.html
The CES models had an IPS screen. Everything I've read (so far) mentions an IPS screen. Of course that could have changed, but I guess we'll find out soon.
I'm also not sure if all models will have a SIM slot, so J&R's info could be faulty.
EDIT: From the source, here you go: http://www.elocitynow.com/docs/pr_2011_0204.pdf
It's an IPS screen.

Yes. As the press release says it has an IPS screen.
Now, about the SIM card slot. In the materials I go at CES 2011, it said they would have one, but no mention is made in the press release. I am going to find out on this one.
About JR.com preorder. The device is supposed to be $399 for the pre-order. So they are charging about $30 more. But also, it wasnt supposed to go live until Feb. 15th. I wonder if the price will drop then.
CPG
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I doubt the price will drop, but I hope I'm wrong...tho' I myself sprang for the $439 tag.
B&H Photo lists it at $428 plus shipping, so it seems the pre-launch buzz was off.

zahir32 said:
I doubt the price will drop, but I hope I'm wrong...tho' I myself sprang for the $439 tag.
B&H Photo lists it at $428 plus shipping, so it seems the pre-launch buzz was off.
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Well, the price should drop. As it was stated in the press release that those who pre-order would pay only $399 for the 4GB model.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

Play.com (UK) - Price and Order date now showing

Pfffffttt ... what the!
I've been keeping an eye on Amazon UK and Play UK for the Galaxy tab, well Play now have a price and release date for the 16GB version ..... are you sitting down?
£899.99 Free delivery Due for release on 04 July 2011.
Edit: The spec isn't right either.

899 GBP for 16GB???? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No way ... too damn expensive ...

They are either mistaken or they're taking the piss, Amazon.de are advertising it at EUR 637,98, that's about £563.
I've just emailed Play.com asking why the price is so high and they've just responded with:-
Dear Customer,
We are pleased to inform you that 'Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 / Dual Core 1GHz / 16GB / 10.1 inch Touch Screen / Android 3.0 Honeycomb / Tablet' is now available to order. Click on the link below to pre-order now!
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At that rate it would be better to order from Amazon.de although Amazon UK may announce a price soon? What are the implications of buying a German unit, it is just classed as a European unit, warranty wise etc?

Yes,
in this regard EU is treated as one so id does not really matter where you buy.
The only difference might be a posting cost.
I have bought stuff from Pixmania (FR) when I was living in the UK with delivery to Poland. (no problems). I have just bought (now being in Poland) Sapphire Xtreme HD 5850 - also no problem.
So... if amazon.de is first to send them away you do not risk anything.
In the past I bought Vaio form Sony Outlet in Holland - fine as well.
Having that in mind... I wonder if Apple isn't breaking the law (EU law) by offering only 12 months of warranty???
As far as I know all manufacturers selling their products in EU are supposed to offer 2 yr. warranty at minimum (no less).
And again on a different note... I am quite grateful for EU being regarded by manufacturers as one country/market. In the past we would wait ages in separate countries for lunch of devices, prices, updates, etc... it is without a doubt better than before we were all completely separate.

I called Play.com and they are looking into it to see if it is a pricing error. They will email me when they know more.
In the mean time, we need to find the best place to get this device in the UK, even if that means ordering from elsewhere in Europe.

I will let you know ass soon as they are available in PL. With Polish Zloty loosing ground because of Greece it might actually work out cheaper for you .
At the moment you are looking at approx. 625 EURO (predicted price, dont know about delivery).

Another issue is, although Samsung will honor warranty in Europe, if the product is faulty when it arrives I will need to send it back to the retailer and they might be abroad. Postage and a language barrier might cause some hassle.

hshah said:
Another issue is, although Samsung will honor warranty in Europe, if the product is faulty when it arrives I will need to send it back to the retailer and they might be abroad. Postage and a language barrier might cause some hassle.
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That was my concern with getting stuff from USA (Motorola does not have a worldwide warranty and again - if you buy in USA, you only have 12 months ).
With buy in in EU it is not a problem - buy in Poland, UK, Greece - and you can get it repaired or exchanged through your local representative/service/etc.
It is very nice that it works this way.

UKseagull said:
I've just emailed Play.com asking why the price is so high and they've just responded with:-
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Actually I think that was just an automated email as I'd signed up to be notified of availability, it can't be the response to my WTF email re the price on their site.
Folks, thanks for your input ref European warranty.

Thanks for the heads-up up on that, but that price must be a provisional one, much as happened with the initial pricing of the GS 2, which saw its price gradually drop down as its release approached to a much more reasonable level.

I have had my "hands on" today with Transformer.
As I treat this as "tablet for a while" I also want to be able to sell it easily in future and loose as little as possible.
SG 10.1 as much as it is sexy is too limited.
My choice will be Transformer 16GB + keyboard dock - and than I will wait for Kal-El or something else (light, with sd slot that plays mkv and other formats and has sexy look and great batt. life) - this will keep me going for a while.
At the moment I am only thinking... buy now (and use netbook as well) or wait till netflix app will show up as it should have a better price by that time... (I hope non of you think it - netflix app - will not show up).

Super Chimp said:
Thanks for the heads-up up on that, but that price must be a provisional one, much as happened with the initial pricing of the GS 2, which saw its price gradually drop down as its release approached to a much more reasonable level.
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You're most likely right about it being a provisional price, but what happens if a buyer orders it at the over inflated price and it then reduces by say £300, would they get it at the reduced price?
I'm weary of Play, they tried to pull a fast one on me a few months ago.

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You're most likely right about it being a provisional price, but what happens if a buyer orders it at the over inflated price and it then reduces by say £300, would they get it at the reduced price?
I'm weary of Play, they tried to pull a fast one on me a few months ago.
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If I recall correctly Play don't charge your card until the item is ready to post. I've found they are rubbish when emailing, so I just call them and they are fine on the phone.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy S II

The model on Play has the 10.1v specs, not the 10.1 specs -- be careful.

Right, I received the correct reply from Play.com, ref my enquiry as to why the price is so high on their web site. They're investigating.
Hi there,
Thank you for your email regarding Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 / Dual Core 1GHz / 16GB / 10.1 inch Touch Screen / Android 3.0 Honeycomb / Tablet and for bringing this to our attention.
Due to the nature of your concern, please allow us more time to investigate the matter. Rest assured that your issue is being dealt with accordingly and we will send you an email once a resolution has been provided.
Please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused you and thank you for your patience and valued custom.
Kind Regards,
Customer Support Team
Play.com
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Safest thing to do is buy it from Currys or PCW. Then return it if u aint happy. Think i would wait, of course it would be nice to have it have it first but...

Where is the 32GB version?

darrenjdoc said:
Safest thing to do is buy it from Currys or PCW. Then return it if u aint happy. Think i would wait, of course it would be nice to have it have it first but...
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Yes that's what I did with the Transformer, I do prefer to be able to walk in and get it sorted straight away.

Called up Play.com and now they are looking into the specifications.
It probably didn't help that I got pissed off at the guy because he was giving me generic answers, so when he asked me how I knew their website was wrong I said I work in the IT sector and carry out the necessary research rather than spend all day talking to customers in a monotone and boring voice.

A galaxy tab for a down to earth price...
When the Transformer wasn't widely available, Carphone Warehouse had it. I ordered and it came the next day. I returned it to my local CPW (because of a screen gap), they refunded my card straight away.
Thinking about it though, the Galaxy Tab is expensive compared to the $499 that the US is being charged...so tempted to order it from Amazon.com using viaddress. I haven't used them before, but I'm thinking worst case scenario, I have to pay import duty so that'd put it near the price of Amazon.de - but if it works out, I could get one for about £350. Either way i'd probably get it in a week...

Would you recommend this?

Hi guys. I am a graduate student and I've been wanting to buy a tablet. Most out there are expensive and in terms of battery life, my 14" laptop with an SSD beats them all. Only problem is, of course, the size of the laptop.
So I have some questions regarding this kinde fire. Looking at the interface, it looks like a constricted version of android and as Besos said, its more of a multimedia device.
The main functions I'm looking for my tablet are: email, reading, viewing videos of PPT lectures, web browsing, watching movies occasionally. Without the tablet being rooted, would all this be possible or is it just for games, web surfing, and videos/music? I would like to leave my device unrooted for as long as possible.
Plus, looking at the specs, this thing would make an excellent android tablet.
Also, how does this GPU compare to the nVidia Tegra?
Thanks!

Get a reading device. A kindle (not Fire) offers quite a lot for a low price.
That's for the reading. For the other stuff, I would not know what to reccomend.

theomni said:
Hi guys. I am a graduate student and I've been wanting to buy a tablet. Most out there are expensive and in terms of battery life, my 14" laptop with an SSD beats them all. Only problem is, of course, the size of the laptop.
So I have some questions regarding this kinde fire. Looking at the interface, it looks like a constricted version of android and as Besos said, its more of a multimedia device.
The main functions I'm looking for my tablet are: email, reading, viewing videos of PPT lectures, web browsing, watching movies occasionally. Without the tablet being rooted, would all this be possible or is it just for games, web surfing, and videos/music? I would like to leave my device unrooted for as long as possible.
Plus, looking at the specs, this thing would make an excellent android tablet.
Also, how does this GPU compare to the nVidia Tegra?
Thanks!
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From what I have read the AF is built to be first and foremost an ereader. Games probably secondary especially with only 512MB of RAM (unless they are from Amazon App Store.) I could be wrong though.
If I were you, I would look harder at other REAL tablets and not closed garden ereaders like the AF appears to be. The dual core CPU would be great on an android tablet. It already is on many. And, by many accounts, quad cores are not too far away. Tabs that are tablets first though.
Price is important. Desired functions are more so. IMO.
Would I recommend? No.

I've been hearing that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus might be coming out with a price near $250. If that is the case, I'll get that instead. Luckily, I will have until the end of October to decide, since that's when the Samsung Tab will be releasing. However, I'm assuming/hoping that we will know its price by next week or so.
Hell, I'll be willing to pay upto $300 for it. I preordered the Kindle Fire with a leather cover for a total of $250.

theomni said:
I've been hearing that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus might be coming out with a price near $250. If that is the case, I'll get that instead. Luckily, I will have until the end of October to decide, since that's when the Samsung Tab will be releasing. However, I'm assuming/hoping that we will know its price by next week or so.
Hell, I'll be willing to pay upto $300 for it. I preordered the Kindle Fire with a leather cover for a total of $250.
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Wise move. A lot of new items will be released and I suspect many (if not most) in your price/needed specs range will far exceed the AF.
Wish I had these options in grad school!

You cold do this all on the NC for $150 or less, unrooted. Also, the NC can be rooted and custom ROMs are available.

I would say yes. Both quick office and documents to go are available in the amazon app store

A couple of people at work have mentioned the Amazon Kindle Fire in passing. I've looked at the specs, it looks pretty poor.
Several people have shown me their iPad 2 or HP tablet - huge 10.1" things.
One person has compared his iPad camera with my Galaxy Tab 7's camera and said the Galaxy Tab comes out better.
I can fit my Galaxy Tab in my pocket. It has Kindle for Android on it.
I chose my device carefully out of some really budget budget devices, and larger & more expensive devices.
Here you can now pick up a Galaxy Tab 7" 3G (GPS, Wifi) 16Gb for £399 from Tesco's Electronics dept, £349 from BestBuy, £299.99 from Tesco Direct (24hr wait, but the desk is in the store!) or £299.98 from PCWorld. I got mine from Tesco Direct, because it was a weekend and the nearest PCWorld that stocks them is over the road from work.
If you don't need 3G (I understand the Fire doesn't have 3G) I believe you can now pick up a 32Gb Wifi-only model from Asda (Walmart) for £249 ($387) and it will be an order of magnitude better than the Fire. There's also a heap of cheap things on eBay from China (that Maplin (Radio Shack) buy & resell with enormous margins)

When people ask me about it, I reply with:
Do you want a next gen Kindle, or do you want a tablet?
That seems to get them into the right frame of mind. The Fire is no more or less a next gen Kindle. It's aimed to compete against the Nook Color and the iPod Touch, being a portable media device.

thanks a lot guys! I actually just cancelled my preorder for the KF and bought the HTC Flyer.

FWIW smart move!
Now take a look at the adonit jot stylus. Amazing.

I've been looking for a pen/stylus to buy.
Would that work with the HTC flyer or am I better of buying the HTC scribe pen for it?

Gotta say I am not familiar with the stylus scribe for the HTC. One would presume an item custom made for a dedicated device would be preferable. I can say the adonit jot performs amazingly on the Transformer on SuperNotes!
You might try it out. If it doesn't work for you, return it. It would appear their Return Policy is liberal enough here.

[Q] Nexus 7 really for me?

Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.

jeong747 said:
Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
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First your comment about the limited "content" of the Play Store will apply to all Android devices. Since they all share the same market. You also have the option of obtaining content via Amazon and GetJar...
Second, I am not 100% sure, but I think the market is not as robust for the world outside of North America (includes Canada), don't quote me though. I am sure other's in your region will chime in soon.
At $200 USD it's IMO the best bang for the buck. I am not sure if you have any other devices currently, but I would really take inventory of how much content you require to carry with you at all times. I assume what ever you are considering buying at that price point will be limited to wifi as the N7 is. You have quite a few cloud storage options. If you feel so inclined, there are also more options on additional storage hardware if you decide to root as well..
Hope that helps,
-CC
EDIT: Compare specs; http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3351&id2=3641

While I do wish you could expand the nexus 7 storage you need to ask yourself......are you really going to use over 16 gigs? I mean how often do you need to have 15 movies on your tab? You're probably going to be by your computer everyday at some point so you much crap do you realistically need on it on a day to day basis? If you are going on a flight plug in a flash drive with the OTG cable. The nexus 7 hardware is equivalent or better than the grab 2 7 and the software/dev is going to be amazing. Just my. 02
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Clienterror said:
While I do wish you could expand the nexus 7 storage you need to ask yourself......are you really going to use over 16 gigs? I mean how often do you need to have 15 movies on your tab? You're probably going to be by your computer everyday at some point so you much crap do you realistically need on it on a day to day basis? If you are going on a flight plug in a flash drive with the OTG cable. The nexus 7 hardware is equivalent or better than the grab 2 7 and the software/dev is going to be amazing. Just my. 02
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I didn't think the N7 supported OTG? Does it?

Questions go in the Q&A section

As he said, you need to take inventory of all the stuff you'll have on the tablet at one time. Music can be several gigs, depending on your collection (and that's not really something you want to copy back and forth) and whether or not you use google music.
Remember that you don't actually get 16G, only 13G.
USB OTG is (probably) also possible if you root.

jeong747 said:
Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
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Hi, I have the grab 7.7, the nexus 7 and I just bought the gtab 7.0 for my niece. If I were in your situation with a budget I would do the gtab 7.0 for 2 reasons 1- storage sounds like you need as much as you can get. 2- I think the N7 has some production, build quality issues and my experience with the transformer prime tablet, also made by ASUS was not great.
If you can't wait then get the 7.0. If you CAN wait, I am sure they will work out the kinks - overall the N7 is the better device but the 7.0 is a solid device no issues lots of accessories and does have ice cream sandwich OS
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

jrpbulk said:
Hi, I have the grab 7.7, the nexus 7 and I just bought the gtab 7.0 for my niece. If I were in your situation with a budget I would do the gtab 7.0 for 2 reasons 1- storage sounds like you need as much as you can get. 2- I think the N7 has some production, build quality issues and my experience with the transformer prime tablet, also made by ASUS was not great.
If you can't wait then get the 7.0. If you CAN wait, I am sure they will work out the kinks - overall the N7 is the better device but the 7.0 is a solid device no issues lots of accessories and does have ice cream sandwich OS
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Thanks. Now I am really considering the gtab2. But in Canada would I be able to cancel my order because this is what they told me via email:
"Hello,
We wanted to send you an update on your Nexus 7 pre-order. We’ve had incredible demand for the new tablet and are shipping them as quickly as possible. Your tablet will ship in 1-2 weeks.
Thanks for your patience. Your Nexus 7 will be on its way soon.
The Google Play Team"
This is clearly a bs, since I paid 20 for 2-day shipping, have to wait 1-2 more weeks.
They haven't charged my credit card yet, so would I have a better chance if I call them personally? (I tried last night, gave up after 50 min on the phone waiting)

jeong747 said:
Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
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It's true it really isn't as enriched as the USA store, you can still rent movies at least (haven't gotten my 7 yet to check out what's in the store). I don't see myself gaming really that much either (I have a PS3 for that) so I'll be doing pretty much the same as you.
For Music: I uploaded all my music to Google Music and I gotta say, it is well worth it if you haven't done it already. Really handy and streams really quickly.
For Movies/TV Shows: I have my own dedicated server (Dell running Ubunutu) from which I stream my content from so in my case I'm not too worried about storing stuff on the tablet (except for maybe a trip where I'll save some). If this does interest you or you are home quite a bit, you could even create a share folder on your computer or laptop and access it from your tablet.
As for cancelling, from what I understand you can refuse delivery and they will give you a refund, but I haven't personally checked on that. Honestly, I have my doubts you'll get offical JB and if you do it will be ages before you ever get it.
Which one did you order from the GP Store, 8GB or 16GB?
PS. This will be my first tablet so I'm excited :laugh:
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jeong747 said:
Thanks. Now I am really considering the gtab2. But in Canada would I be able to cancel my order because this is what they told me via email:
"Hello,
We wanted to send you an update on your Nexus 7 pre-order. We’ve had incredible demand for the new tablet and are shipping them as quickly as possible. Your tablet will ship in 1-2 weeks.
Thanks for your patience. Your Nexus 7 will be on its way soon.
The Google Play Team"
This is clearly a bs, since I paid 20 for 2-day shipping, have to wait 1-2 more weeks.
They haven't charged my credit card yet, so would I have a better chance if I call them personally? (I tried last night, gave up after 50 min on the phone waiting)
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Ya I got that exact same email, 30mins after I got my tracking number...lol Also mine says UPS Standard which is around 4 days shipping...not happy

adamskub said:
It's true it really isn't as enriched as the USA store, you can still rent movies at least (haven't gotten my 7 yet to check out what's in the store). I don't see myself gaming really that much either (I have a PS3 for that) so I'll be doing pretty much the same as you.
For Music: I uploaded all my music to Google Music and I gotta say, it is well worth it if you haven't done it already. Really handy and streams really quickly.
For Movies/TV Shows: I have my own dedicated server (Dell running Ubunutu) from which I stream my content from so in my case I'm not too worried about storing stuff on the tablet (except for maybe a trip where I'll save some). If this does interest you or you are home quite a bit, you could even create a share folder on your computer or laptop and access it from your tablet.
As for cancelling, from what I understand you can refuse delivery and they will give you a refund, but I haven't personally checked on that. Honestly, I have my doubts you'll get offical JB and if you do it will be ages before you ever get it.
Which one did you order from the GP Store, 8GB or 16GB?
PS. This will be my first tablet so I'm excited :laugh:
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Ya I got that exact same email, 30mins after I got my tracking number...lol Also mine says UPS Standard which is around 4 days shipping...not happy
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Sadly, Google Music is not available in Canada, only available in the U.S.
And I ordered 16gb version, I know 8gbs have shipped already, but 1-2weeks for the 16gb one.

clockcycle said:
Second, I am not 100% sure, but I think the market is not as robust for the world outside of North America (includes Canada), don't quote me though. I am sure other's in your region will chime in soon.
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I kinda lol'ed when I read this. If Canada isn't included in North America, that only leaves US.
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For Music: I uploaded all my music to Google Music and I gotta say, it is well worth it if you haven't done it already. Really handy and streams really quickly.
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Google Music isn't available in Canada yet.
And at OP, you're gonna be using the same Play Store on the N7 and the Galaxy Tab, so I'm kinda confused about your statement. Do you mean because it's running jelly bean? If so, it's only gonna be a short time for developers to edit those apps to be fully compatible.
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jeong747 said:
Sadly, Google Music is not available in Canada, only available in the U.S.
And I ordered 16gb version, I know 8gbs have shipped already, but 1-2weeks for the 16gb one.
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Ya I know but you can get it like I did (I live in Canada as well) using Tor to setup an account and then your free to access it while still in Canada. I used this guide, super simple and again you only need to setup using a US IP, you can still access using a Canadian IP
Ohh that sucks, I ordered a 8GB from GP but decided to sell to a friend and ordered through Futureshop, much cheaper (cost me $294 w/ tax for 16GB FS, $256 w/ tax GP in Ontario). Hopefully they do ship them soon though

I got mine yesterday and I think it's the best tablet experience. I have a Transformer (Tf101); and I think I almost like this more. It's smooth, fast and extremely portable. The Nexus 7, along with my Chromebook, will go to school with me. I think this will be the ideal combination.
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I live in Canada and my 16gb got shipped, I have no clue if I should keep it, or return it for a refund.
I also bought galaxy tab 7.0 plus and will get a sdhc card.
Should I keep my nexus 7?