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All S2 Applications development suspended... but...

As you all know, all S2 applications are freeware. That is, they cannot be sold for any purpose and it's stated clearly in the attached license file.
However, it's found some guys do repeatly sell them through eBay or their own websites. For eBay, I have to submit an individual email to eBay when a suspicious listing is found. That's really time-wasting.
Recently, I came across this website: www.iphonethemeforppc.com. I asked the website owner to remove S2U2, but he simply declined.
I'm totally sick of them.
So, I'll suspend the development of any S2 applications until there is any good sign of changes.
Anyway, thanks all for your support. Take care.
Update: 11-Sep
Got the reply from iphonethemeforppc
We do not sell S2U2! We offer it as an optional free download from our
site just as most of the other sites on the web.
When you purchase the iphone theme you will download a zip file that is
an html file and a Cab file with all the wisbar theme addons and a txt
file. This is NOT the S2U2 files and we do not sell your software. I
already said this once so get it straight!
We don’t believe in selling copyright software and we don’t endorse it!
Now if you want to know who I believe is doing it wrong look at this
site: http://www.web-resort.com/. They actually have it included in
their download package!
With that being said, We don’t have a problem re-wording our site if
that makes you feel better, but we are NOT selling your software.
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But up till now, S2U2 is still posted on this website with screenshots & wordings like "Features"...
Here is the reply from another beggar at web-resort.com:
we are not selling S2U2 as it is a free application as stated on our
website.
Please read the part of our Warranty Disclaimer relative to freeware:
"...THIS PACKAGE IS DEVELOPED MIXING TOGETHER FREE SOFTWARE. BUYING THIS
PACKAGE YOU BUY THE "KNOWLEDGE", "TIME" SPENT SEARCHING FREE SOFTWARE,
PUTTING IT TOGHETER, "TESTING" AND FINALLY "FINDING A RELIABLE SOLUTION".
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It's even worser that it's selling the whole series of S2...
So, I have to keep on suspending the development. Take care.
Update: 17-Sep
I must say thanks all for your support & feedback. I'll think seriously about every suggestion you've posted here but I have not made up my mind yet. So please forgive me for the lack of update of any S2 apps in the near future.
Take care... I'll be back...
Update: 3-Oct
I've just set up a website... http://www.ac-s2.com
I'm still waiting for some legal advice... so please stay tuned...
Update: 21-Oct
I'm back... http://www.ac-s2.com

Smh. This is terrible.

Oh no..
Some people really have no shame nowadays..

its really unfair that pple try to sell someone elses hard work....
but isnt there a copyright issue??? iphonethemeforppc cant just say no cuz its against the law

Too bad XDA doesn't have a pro-bono lawyer for **** like this.

Very bad News. :-(
I love your Applications
But on other side i understand your handling. It's hard work from you and other make the money.

For anyone who is doing this.. you should be ashamed. I hope if anyone finds these people in these forums to ban them and their IP.

Sad
Well, this is really sad, you had really something !
But I understand...

there must be a way to pursue them.. after all it's your product

i really hate those basta*d who make money on this great app. what a shame.
a_c, how about starting to commercialize s2 series? i'll buy lisence from you.

Banning is not enough. Anybody remember how Jay and Silent Bob handled the negative movie reviews?
**Music***How many people wanna kick some @$$***Music**
I make light of the subject, but really. If you're douchebag enough to steal someone else's work and sell it as your own, you deserve nothing betther than to have the 5#17 kicked out of you. No stupid sentencing, no community service or refund money, just hefty fines and ass-whoopin's. Simple as that.

This is ****. Many people do not remember what they havoc with what they do. But thank you for everything and I hope you change your mind yet.

hope this idot seen what he's done what is wrong with these people...sorry to see that you have stop A_c ....you made such great apps. for us ,now some jackass killed it .Hope he gets sued by some customer that comes accross a bug that i know he can't fix
BTW i noticed that the price is in $US again with the americans looking to make an easy buck... samething happened in the hearld fourm a while back with the touch IT roms and the guy apologized for doing it.... WTF how sorry can you be when your counting the money you made off someone elses work to hell with these guys ****ing basterds

burgertime said:
Too bad XDA doesn't have a pro-bono lawyer for **** like this.
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-1 VERY BAD

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
please dont stop A C..... i use all your apps religiously!!!!
its a shame that people will stoop that low!!!!!

Bad news,
but i would buy a license of you, too

wow..thats ****ed up!

cp_kirkley said:
Banning is not enough. Anybody remember how Jay and Silent Bob handled the negative movie reviews?
**Music***How many people wanna kick some @$$***Music**
I make light of the subject, but really. If you're douchebag enough to steal someone else's work and sell it as your own, you deserve nothing betther than to have the 5#17 kicked out of you. No stupid sentencing, no community service or refund money, just hefty fines and ass-whoopin's. Simple as that.
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+1 for this..

thanks for all You hard work A_C. I was really hoping for future developement of Your s2v app, but it is Your choice and I respect it.
see... this is situation without solution to be honest. If You would decide to sell Your apps, then they would become even more populare on warez sites.
crap. hopefully in next few weeks/months some failure @ CERN will put a definitive end to all this madness.
br
bro

Is this guy trying to sell crack copies of wisbar as well? if so lakeridge software may also have something to say about his $10 offer.
Thanks AC for all you've done, don't let the fools get you down, it's just because your work is so damn good!

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what's this have to do with the xda forum, htc, development & hacking?

I make custom programs, = Development...

DhaMajoR said:
I make custom programs, = Development...
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Good cause I'll donate.

you might want to put some restrictions.. cuz im guessing you wont be able to develop anything anyone thinks up (like a new dialer, new contact manager etc etc all at once (i dont know if yur capable but even if you are.. you wont be doing much else but developing for months haha))
its a very noble cause though! great idea and i love where your heart is

I hope i dont get any Crazy Requests, but i hope to Get some money in, Thanks.

htctoucher said:
you might want to put some restrictions.. cuz im guessing you wont be able to develop anything anyone thinks up (like a new dialer, new contact manager etc etc all at once (i dont know if yur capable but even if you are.. you wont be doing much else but developing for months haha))
its a very noble cause though! great idea and i love where your heart is
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Yea I agree I just donated and I was thinking of m request and it might take a while

Jokesonyou, did you donate on paypal?

DhaMajoR said:
Jokesonyou, did you donate on paypal?
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Yes sir a 20 USD donation

Jokes On You said:
Yes sir a 20 USD donation
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make sure it was sent out to [email protected], because for some reason, i have the same Balance... $130 Usd. Starange.

EDIT: Thank you Octavia Lopez, for your Donation.

galaxys said:
what's this have to do with the xda forum, htc, development & hacking?
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Agree
Same question here
What is going to make if all here is for free?
This forum is not for making money, is for sahreing knowledge, help others and enjoy the FREE ROM´s and apps from the real Devs.
If I´m donating will be to this site!
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.

orb3000 said:
Agree
Same question here
What is going to make if all here is for free?
This forum is not for making money, is for sahreing knowledge, help others and enjoy the FREE ROM´s and apps from the real Devs.
If I´m donating will be to this site!
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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Okay sorry

DhaMajoR said:
Wana Be MOD
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Show more respect or you´ll get banned newbie
Learn and respect the rules

orb3000 said:
Wana be somebody
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Okay orb300

orb3000 said:
Show more respect or you´ll get banned newbie
Learn the rules and then you can be somebody
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Thats mean.

MOD BREAK
please show respect for each other in this forum.....be nice!
thank you and have a nice weekend.
Liam

Who says that you'll really give the money to WorldVision? And who says that you'll actually develop the application? ...

DHA Major,
This seems like a very good idea, ie people donate to a worthy cause and they get a development back via you. You have several problems to overcome though to make this happen:
1) Credibility - people need to be convinved of your technical abilities and your ability to deliver.
2) Honest - you already have someone questioning whether the money will go to the cause. Not sure how you address this.
3) Apathy - Sadly a lot of people enjoy having things for free while not making any form of financial contribution. If you look through some of the threads on here from a while back you will see that some even demand things get developed and delivered even though developers are given their time, effort and technical abilities for free (search through some of the Schaps threads on XDA to see what I mean).
It might be a good start for you to develop and release an application for us to see what you can do (sorry, I have not been on here for a while so if you have already developed and released an app on here without me seeing it then that's great). Once that is in place then you need to find some way of ensuring that people donate and that there is evidence that the donations are heading off to the charity as expected.
I applaud your idea; just not sure how you get around some of the problems highlighted above.
Good luck.
WB

(ATTN)ROM Hosting(DEVS)

So for quite some time, there has always been issues and complaints about users not being able to download roms from the links posted by the devs on new releases and/or updates (4shared, Rapid share, Mega upload to name a few)
with that being said they are always complaining and begging for someone who gets a complete download to re-upload with a mirror, to make their lives easier...understandable. But if there's one thing I know, "Most" devs hate it when users fill their threads up with a bunch of links...why? well that’s simple:
It confuses others (especially noobs) as to which link is the correct one and the one intended for download by the OP. This means that if someone put a faulty link/mirror that contained a bad file, un-signed zip, or their own custom version of the rom/mod that they decided to play "dev" with and screwed it up rendering it full of bugs...the Dev and/or OP has to deal with the complaints when that user comes back to post. Leaving him confused and dumbfounded as to what the hell they are talking about because nobody else is reporting these issues.
Download count just so happens to be very important to a lot of devs. It gives them a general idea of how many users are flashing their work, which can not only make them feel appreciated and needed by the community because of all the attention...but also create a ratio of problems to success. Example, 300 users download, only 50 come back to report bugs, the rest either don't post at all (I call them ghost readers) or give good feedback. Now, out of that 50 only 7 reported bugs can be legitimately confirmed, which means the other 43 people either did not follow directions clearly, or already had some other stuff going on that effected their experience. Why are these numbers important? Because, if the numbers of bugs are high...the dev knows to update quickly and correct things, if the number of user errors are high...the dev knows he needs to re-adjust his instructions or make them more clear and descriptive so that nobody misunderstands. And if the number of successful flashes are high...well...you know. And all of this can be based on number of downloads...which other users screw up when they post their own links!
Lost and forgotten is what all these mirrors, linked threads/topics, and uploaded fixes by random users become when the topic is over populated (especially big named threads like Eugene, CM, Wes Garner etc). So if the thread has 105 pages and an important link was dropped by a user that proved to be helpful way back on say...page 23! How in the hell is anyone who hasn't been following the entire topic to know that? And nobody in their right mind, who has a life, is going to sit there and skim all 105 pages. So if you must, or feel, that you have a useful link pertaining specifically to the topic that can help others, the best resolution would be to PM it to the OP, so that they can update the first post where all users can easily refer back to if need be.
Now with the why covered, let's move on the the what. And the what is what I have to offer:
A hosting service that I paid for out of my own pocket. This is my way of contributing to the community, as I do not offer donations, sorry. But for the exchange of helpful information, resources, mods, and great roms! I hereby offer all devs, and I do mean DEVS ONLY (yes that includes themers) the use of this hosting service is at no cost to them.
How beneficial is this you ask?​
For Devs:
unlimited online storage space for all zips, rar's, and other files that are specifically related to the xda development (No personal storage like mp3's, movies, and family portrait please)
direct download links! No pop-ups, No ads, No human text box verifications
unlimited links- they never run out of time or number of downloads they will stay on the internet forever!!!! (or until you remove it)
Detailed info- keeps track of number of clicks, page views, downloads, you name it, you get your own personal page to view this statistics at any time
No size limit! Big or small, you upload it all (multiple uploads at once supported as well) I have not seen anything in any of these forums over 200mb...so if you're running up 1-2 gigs of use in a matter of days I will be investingating your usage!
For users
No more 4shared yay! Lol
No time wait (30 secs, 90 secs or whatever) Downloads start immediately after clicking the link!
No pop-up or separate browser pages to go to, download starts without the need to open a new page or tab, so you can easily continue on reading through the forum you are in
Links are never broken-they will always work until the OP removes it
No signing up, no memberships.. paid or free, just download. Same benefit as downloading links uploaded directly through Xda, except you don't have to be logged in to click these!
To keep things under control and fair I will only allow 3 request per week for access to this service. I'm not sure how many devs are registered and active but I'm quite sure there are a lot. Eventually all devs who are interested will have the opportunity, but for my own conveyance I will only take 3 request a week, because I will not be online everyday to take all request, this also give me the time to help each individual to get set-up and answer any questions they may have.
I do not discriminate by phone make or model. All devs are welcome to this offer regardless of what phone they developed for. However; I will only post this thread here in the Vibrant forums, well, because that's the phone I use. But Mods are more than welcome to sticky it or link the word to other locations so that all devs can read. My only rules are:
Must be and already have been a member of XDA for at least one year.
Must provide at least two links to their work contributed here in the xda forums
Must have a valid email address and/or twitter account. (simply so that I can contact and update you if any changes or problems occur)
Must only use this service for the development of roms/themes/mods. Please do not take advantage of my kind heart, and use this hosting service for your own personal purpose, I will know, and I will take away privileges.
How to sign up for this?​
Simply PM me if you are interested... with the above^^ requirements, and I will give you all the details and instructions you need.​
Unfortunately, I will not start taking request until Monday of next week, a relative has just passed away a couple of days ago, and I am closing a deal on a new home, trying to fit time for a funeral, and moving all in one week can be a headache. But you are welcome to start sending me request if you like, but as I said I will only deal with 3 at a time. So if you send a request and don't hear back, please do not continue sending me your inquiry. Your voice has been heard and will be responded as soon as I get to you. Thank you.

Wow, I'm not a dev or anything like that but this is real nice of you. Kudos to you sir.
Working in the er its nice to know when your help is appreciated. So thank you.
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bguzmanz2 said:
Wow, I'm not a dev or anything like that but this is real nice of you. Kudos to you sir.
Working in the er its nice to know when your help is appreciated. So thank you.
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+1
This will not only help the devs, but the forum community in general, making it much more easier on both ends, so i thank you for this. Kudos to you.

TL;DR
You might also want to post this in the Dev sub-forum too. It's over here --> Vibrant Android Development.
Thanks for providing the service.

I hope you have some serious monthly download allowences. I do some hosting not related to XDA and I'm easily pushing 30Gig a month, which spikes even more depending on releases.
What your doing is awesome none the less.
If you find that you are pushing some serious downloads you could always turn some builds into torrents and use your machine as the master seed and let others help out that want to help out. Lord knows my machine at home has been seeding many Linux builds over the past months.
http://burnbit.com/

Not to disrespect you in any form or way, I appreciate this thread to the developers but this idea has been made quite a while ago since the first-generation of Android phone (G1).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665957
AndroidSPIN has been around for a long time and has provided hosting for developers and their ROMs as well as a pretty organized database.

zephiK said:
Not to disrespect you in any form or way, I appreciate this thread to the developers but this idea has been made quite a while ago since the first-generation of Android phone (G1).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665957
AndroidSPIN has been around for a long time and has provided hosting for developers and their ROMs as well as a pretty organized database.
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Yes, I already know this. But please understand this is specifically for xda...androidspin is its own website in itself, also still has its limitations as well as ads and opens new pages/tabs for downloads. My service does not do that, and is without limits.
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That is very helpful, and I appreciate it. But no I have no monthly cap, and I pay for my services once per year.
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kizer said:
I hope you have some serious monthly download allowences. I do some hosting not related to XDA and I'm easily pushing 30Gig a month, which spikes even more depending on releases.
What your doing is awesome none the less.
If you find that you are pushing some serious downloads you could always turn some builds into torrents and use your machine as the master seed and let others help out that want to help out. Lord knows my machine at home has been seeding many Linux builds over the past months.
http://burnbit.com/
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Kudos to you sir
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant

try it and soon you will get email from your hosting company of over usage. Unlimited in your contract means nothing.
They might make you pay for overusage by saying that you abused their network.

Klyentel said:
That is very helpful, and I appreciate it. But no I have no monthly cap, and I pay for my services once per year.
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Congrats I wish I had an unlimited bandwith host. I can get away with gigs of storage, but they caped me around 60gig a month.
Anyways hope it works out.

good luck, ive tried this a few times but seems like devs like those crappy upload sites. i'm gonna take a guess and say you are on a site like hostgator or something with "unlimited" bandwidth, watch it cuz its only unlimited untill you use to much resources.

Just an idea.
Why don't we create a distributed system using available tools/software like torrent files.
We need one or more torrent server/tracker and list of volunteers to be reliable seeders. Once you sign as a seeder, you will receive a list of # files you'll seed 24/7 until you receive an updated list.
I don't mind seeding 5-10 files 24/7.
We can retire any file at any time if there is no interest and archive it.
By archiving i mean switch to more "standard" way of hosting it like http or ftp access.
And when a new release is out the downloading will be even faster.

Scam warning, please read

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083280
Please read and help fight! This guy is a thief and deserves to be shut down. Please help out the smartphone community!
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I agree this is extremely shady and should be discontinued...
Yes, there's a "but"...
The guy has no links, no information, no purpose for the money other than "it gets you full access". Once full access is achieved, presumably, one can then access the forums.
It seems as though he's charging money to allow access into a message board and not specifically to access ROMs.
Only a fool would purchase access to a forums which contains information freely available anywhere else with a little searching.

othan1 said:
I agree this is extremely shady and should be discontinued...
Yes, there's a "but"...
The guy has no links, no information, no purpose for the money other than "it gets you full access". Once full access is achieved, presumably, one can then access the forums.
It seems as though he's charging money to allow access into a message board and not specifically to access ROMs.
Only a fool would purchase access to a forums which contains information freely available anywhere else with a little searching.
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Agreed. It makes me really pissed because he has einherjar roms/mods/themes behind his donation wall. All of us at EDT put way too much hard work and countless hours into our work. And to have some punk ***** steal it, charge people for it, and claim its his own work by editing the build prop, really gets under my skin.This goes for all devs/teams. I speak for all of them.
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I support your cause, what this guy is doing is wrong. If he posts ANYTHING related to donation requirements on XDA then notify a senior mod and have his ass escorted to the door. Both promoting outside sites that are designed to compete directly with XDA and requiring donations is strictly against the rules. He's treading in waist high water here...
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Dan_Brutal said:
Agreed. It makes me really pissed because he has einherjar roms/mods/themes behind his donation wall. All of us at EDT put way too much hard work and countless hours into our work. And to have some punk ***** steal it, charge people for it, and claim its his own work by editing the build prop, really gets under my skin.This goes for all devs/teams. I speak for all of them.
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And you have every right to deny anyone distribution rights to your product. So I'm behind you on this and will spread the word as I can.
Is there anything in the licensing for open source (GPL?) that can be done to send this person a C&D letter prior to lawsuits?

Why this guy?? When you have things like Appl**et pirating every Android app, hes small time.

Why this guy?? When you have things like Appl**et pirating every Android app, hes small time.
**Sorry about the double post, cant delete a post i guess.

Don't know if anyone knows this but he's also using fake users to post positive comments on his YouTube site. I researched this. For example, the user 'sfanua42' was used to post the following comment 4 weeks ago,
"THIS GUY RIGHT HERE IS THE BEST YOUTUBER/ CUSTOMER SERVICE GUY EVER! I RATE ***** ."
Clicking on this user brings up a profile that was created 4 weeks ago and hasn't been used in 4 weeks. It's also devoid of any user information whatsoever. He's a scam artist right down to the dotted line. I'm truly disgusted by this and hope something can be done about it and I feel for the original developers involved in the works available on his site.

Roms we can't download featured here 1,500plus views struck a nerve

{Over a twentytwo hundred views- i seem to have struck a nerve. Alot of us had this problem- then I solutioned it out for us all}
Says [ROM] in the title but theres no rom to be had????
You had this experience lately? They make you Click here... click there. These guys make an XDA member play whack a-mole-look-for-the-rom link games?
Because of proprietary registration requirement some featured roms on this page cannot be downloaded by XDA members. Why is this being allowed?
XDA set up a perfectly reasonable system that worked JUST fine. WE DON'T NEED 50 websites to sign up for!!! - to get roms. All we need was XDA.
A few groups think they are entitled to change XDA(to its detriment) into their *****. Post links to these roms I'll put them here. We need to break these folks out of this habit. They say it isnt against XDA rules for them to do this- well then it wont be against XDA rules for me to post them
right in this post at the bottom of this post.
Its what ANDROID is all about. Open Source.
Mik and this Sac's Kingdom rom and some others cant be downloaded. (I like their roms- since I'm trying to download em-duh)
Has money changed hands? what is the deal?
Why are these roms --that we can't get unless we register on their crappy webpages-- featured on XDA Android Rom page? WTF?
And for all the sychophants, buttsniffer brigade and scene kids- racing to their rescue-:you see their troll comments in abundance: If every rom you ever download you need to sign up for their proprietary page- why do we need XDA then?
If this continues- XDA is cutting its own throat. I won't use a rom I have to sign up elsewhere to get it.
(So please post mirror links to Mik Roms and Sacs Kingdom Roms so the rest of us don't have to register)
XDA set up a perfectly reasonable system that worked JUST fine. WE DON'T NEED 50 websites to sign up for!!! - to get roms. All we need was XDA. This is a game changer.
I understand the sychophants and scenies will do what ever they are told.
But XDa had it right and these people are messing up a good thing- tryna make it their thing. And I call bull****!.
And this isn't a Q&A. This needs to be addressed by XDA- or we can just post links and nobody would be mad.
We just want straight-up Rom links!
If two guys do it- MIK and SACS to drive traffic for their own websites- it'll be prevalent in a week.
And XDA will not have any relevance.
The buttsniffers, sychophants and scene kids say- it only takes a minute to register over here, then over there, then here and here too! yeah! and there and...- blah blah blah.
What you gonna do when synergy or Kings or ACS or -take your pick- does this same thing?
And all the rest of them do it?
This needs to stop NOW.
here:
Hit thanks if you agree with me...

I agree completely so I am willing to give up this second post on the thread for what you guys need it for

No -rom development that doesnt lead to actual roms dont belong here
lui22 said:
hey bro
i know this is an important question but it belongs in the Q&A.
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Asking why XDA allows this isnt a Q and A- these lames are taking up space that actual developers offering real roms can use. This practice needs to stop and wont be put in a lil box elsewhere. All these guys are doing with tacit XDA approval- it seems- is promoting proprietary webpages that take people off XDA. To their site. They offer us nothing but a registration elsewhere. They are just taking up XDA space and tryingto get XDA members onto their own webs.

I agree.
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Damn it sounds like some folks got sour milk in their cereal. All of the sites you are complaining about are "FREE" to register on and do not ask anything or for any money from you to get access to their links. So if XDA admins don't have a problem with it why should anyone else. After all it only takes about 60 second more out of your day.
"Hell I don't know"

selders59 said:
Damn it sounds like some folks got sour milk in their cereal. All of the sites you are complaining about are "FREE" to register on and do not ask anything or for any money from you to get access to their links. So if XDA admins don't have a problem with it why should anyone else. After all it only takes about 60 second more out of your day.
"Hell I don't know"
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+1 completely agree.

i got no beef with signing up for something to download any of these roms. my phone is nothing without these devs, and i will get the roms from wherever they want to post them. if i had the time to sit down and tweek a rom to the way i like it i would but i dont. taking the extra 2 minutes to signup for another site is pretty ok with me

noirelion said:
Because of proprietary registration requirement featured roms on this page cannot be downloaded by XDA members. Why is this being allowed?
Mik and this SAc s Kingdom rom and some others cant be downloaded.
Has money changed hands? what is the deal?
Why are these roms that we can't get unless we register on thier crappy pages- featured on XDA Android Rom page? WTF?
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If you want the ROM take a couple of seconds and sign up for free on the developers site. Simple as that. Just be lucky they link there site here for us to get the ROM in the first place.

Both rom are my favorites!!
But never complain about how to download it..
Dont be lazy..
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Oh gee- we get to look around on each new proprietary website for 15 minutes to sign up for something we dont want! The way it was was fine- these people are making XDA irrelevant. I don't want XDA to become irrelevant.
I want it the way it was and these people need to change their practices. XDA people need to get their head out of their asses.

noirelion said:
Asking why XDA allows this isnt a Q and A- these lames are taking up space that actual developers offering real roms can use.
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Talk about taking up space. If your not happy here then feel free to move some place else. I've never had any issues downloading a rom on this site, 99% of the time I don't even have to go to the developers site to download the rom. They are doing this for us for free and your whinning about how to get the ROM?

Holly crap.. i was just thinking this today..
I want to download sacs new sense 3.0 rom but i have to register.. anyone have a mirror or straight link to his rom..
Great job to them for making this rom but cmon..

Haven't used a mik rom or any rom I need to sign up somewhere else.
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If you want the ROM take a couple of seconds and sign up for free on the developers site. Simple as that. Just be lucky they link there site here for us to get the ROM in the first place.
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Won't use a rom I have to sign up elsewhere to get it. XDA set up a perfectly reasonable system that worked JUST fine. We don't need 50 websites to sign up for- to get roms. All we need was XDA. This is a game changer.
I understand the sychophants and scenies will do what ever they are told. But XDa had it right and these people are messing up a good thing- tryna make it their thing. And I call bull****!.

when someone who built the rom and spent HOURS to do and YOUR complaining because he wants you to become a member on his site (WHICH IS FREE) where you can probably find more cool stuff about the rom you want. stop being lazy and selfish. #bad.

Oh no! Something different than i'm used to! The only response is rage!

Go elsewhere? Thats what I'm trying NOT to do
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Talk about taking up space. If your not happy here then feel free to move some place else. I've never had any issues downloading a rom on this site, 99% of the time I don't even have to go to the developers site to download the rom. They are doing this for us for free and your whinning about how to get the ROM?
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I like XDA just as it is. I DONT want to go ELSEWHERE: to someone elses website to sign up for their stuff. I want to stay at XDA in a system that worked just fine.
Kinda toolish to tell me to leave XDA "if I'm not happy"... thats kinda weird logic- I want to stay on XDA- not leave it to go to proprietary websites. You need to take your pills.

noirelion said:
I like XDA just as it is. I DONT want to go ELSEWHERE: to someone elses website to sign up for their stuff. I want to stay at XDA in a system that worked just fine.
Kinda toolish to tell me to leave XDA "if I'm not happy"... thats kinda weird logic- I want to stay on XDA- not leave it to go to proprietary websites. You need to take your pills.
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Your whinning!

Or you could just do what I do and not use the Rom. If they want to link to their hard earned site for their hard earned credit, let them. I don't want to register, I don't download, and I let everyone else be happy and merry and move on with their lives.

I think I want XDA to stay like it was and not become merely a quick cover page for 50 proprietary websites. I don't want to get in a troll/flame war with some nobody. I just want up and down links to roms(like its been). And i'm saying that if your frauding XDA just to post web page links for your own stuff- its you who need to "go elsewhere".

Please read the Forum Rules:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=642
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar/substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Do not post press releases, announcements, links to trial software, or commercial services. unless you’re posting an exclusive release for XDA-Developers.com.
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
Off-site downloads are permitted if the site is non-commercial and does not require registration.
Off-site downloads from sites requiring registration are NOT encouraged but may be permitted if the following conditions are met:
A) the site belongs to a member of XDA-Developers with at least 1500 posts and 2 years membership who actively maintains XDA-Developers' support thread(s) / posts, related to the download,
B) the site is a relatively small personal website without commercial advertising/links (i.e. not a competitor forum-based site with purposes and aims similar to those of XDA-Developers.com.)
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Given your recent posts in aamikam's MikRoms thread, prior to this thread, one can logically presume you are complaining about aamikam's posts.
aamikam has just over 2600 posts, joined in October 2008, and actively maintains a thread related to the MikRom download.
He is following the rules. YOU however, have disregarded them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695878