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... is a big waste of money.
1) No USB port(s)
2) No HDMI port
3) No power built-in (have to use the adapter that came with tablet. Aargh!!)
4) No SD card slot
5) No micro-SD card slot
Expensive piece of plastic for the price.
But, it does offer a remote control, and a headphone jack!!!
(ASUS messed up by not including a full-USB on the TRANSFORMER, but made it up in a big way with the features on their dock.)
Acer, are you listening? You can surely come out with a much better dock.
Save your money and don't buy this dock.
Actually, The Dock Is Quite Convenient
Nice and sturdy with two different positions. The mincluded remote lets you control a few things like Suspend/Resume and you can unlock the Iconia remotely. Volume/Pause, etc of course. And headphones out.
Charges nicely (need to get another power adapter)
ONE PRECAUTION: The dock automatically opens NemoPlayer so if you are rooted and have changed/deleted/renamed Nemo you must restore it or else the Iconia will not turn the dock on! Maybe some dev can figure a way around this.
Don't disagree with your assessment, but I still think this barebones dock is very pricey at $79.99.
> Charges nicely (need to get another power adapter)
Yes, and that costs another $29.99
So, dock plus power adapter costs $109.98 (before tax & shipping).
Let's compare this combination to the ASUS Transformer dock that costs $150.
- 2 USB 2.0 ports,
- an SD card reader,
- and a secondary battery that doubles the tablet’s battery life.
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If you want a stand to hold you tablet, try the Arkon Portable Fold-Up Stand ($12 at Amazon).
Ah, I see. I had ordered mine before Acer unfortunately raised the prices in the store so the dock was $46.50 and the power supply was $10! I would agree that $100+ is too much for what you get.
I'd like to see some clever and shady Chinese company come up with a keyboard dock for this using the port.
Yeah, I don't really understand why anyone would buy it. Rumor is that Acer is working on a keyboard dock, though....
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Didn't Acer announce a keyboard dock similar to the Transformer for the W500? I can't imagine the two docking ports being too different so hopefully the A500 will see something similar.
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Yeah, I don't really understand why anyone would buy it. Rumor is that Acer is working on a keyboard dock, though....
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I sure hope they do a keyboard dock like the one for the Transformer.
keyboard dock +1
If acer made a good keyboard dock I would love them
i just want a dock that:
1: is weighted and securey holds my a500
2: comes with it's own power
3: has HDMI. USB (multiple a plus)
and as a bonus any other useful thing they can come up with, like media card reader, ethernet, anything else would be icing on the cake
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Didn't Acer announce a keyboard dock similar to the Transformer for the W500? I can't imagine the two docking ports being too different so hopefully the A500 will see something similar.
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The W500 comes with a keyboard/dock. $549 for everything
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=186188&Sku=A180-101202
banksia said:
... is a big waste of money.
1) No USB port(s)
2) No HDMI port
3) No power built-in (have to use the adapter that came with tablet. Aargh!!)
4) No SD card slot
5) No micro-SD card slot
Expensive piece of plastic for the price.
But, it does offer a remote control, and a headphone jack!!!
(ASUS messed up by not including a full-USB on the TRANSFORMER, but made it up in a big way with the features on their dock.)
Acer, are you listening? You can surely come out with a much better dock.
Save your money and don't buy this dock.
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I use my tablet for movies. All the internet sites are telling me that de dock has hdmi. So its very usefull for me.
I like to know if the remote can control the mouse. So i can use the remote for controlling other movieplayers such as moboplayer.
Harm
sollie said:
I use my tablet for movies. All the internet sites are telling me that de dock has hdmi. So its very usefull for me.
I like to know if the remote can control the mouse. So i can use the remote for controlling other movieplayers such as moboplayer.
Harm
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all the pics i have seen of the dock show no hdmi at all, only power and a headphone jack.
seems expensive considering all it does if make movie playing on the device easier...
My opinion is Acer messed up a little with their dock, but
Why people want the ACER dock
- HDMI port, there is one on the tablet.... is there any kind of "i dont want see cable out of my tablet" style ? for me USELESS... to have such a port on the dock
- USB ... humm that is a 50/50 coz there is one on the table, but add one more as hub could be nice... still useless 50/50
- SD Card slot? for what ?
- MicroSD Card Slot ??? for what ?
why not asking also a battery support
what the hell really, comparing ASUS and ACER on their dock
compare all in a row
ASUS tablet only is kind of.... naked... you need a dock to add options... should be on the tablet rather than the dock (wich is a keyboard actually more than a dock for me)
don't miss understand me, I don t have anything against ACER nor ASUS.
but just stop to make some stupid comparison.
compare what should be compare.
DOCK with DOCK
KEYBOARD with KEYBOARD
TABLET with TABLET
kindly
PS:
ACER make a dock for stand on a desk
ASUS make a keyboard dock for mobility and TRANSFORMER a tablet to a "netbook"
cannot be compare
sanaell said:
My opinion is Acer messed up a little with their dock, but
Why people want the ACER dock
- HDMI port, there is one on the tablet.... is there any kind of "i dont want see cable out of my tablet" style ? for me USELESS... to have such a port on the dock
- USB ... humm that is a 50/50 coz there is one on the table, but add one more as hub could be nice... still useless 50/50
- SD Card slot? for what ?
- MicroSD Card Slot ??? for what ?
why not asking also a battery support
what the hell really, comparing ASUS and ACER on their dock
compare all in a row
ASUS tablet only is kind of.... naked... you need a dock to add options... should be on the tablet rather than the dock (wich is a keyboard actually more than a dock for me)
don't miss understand me, I don t have anything against ACER nor ASUS.
but just stop to make some stupid comparison.
compare what should be compare.
DOCK with DOCK
KEYBOARD with KEYBOARD
TABLET with TABLET
kindly
PS:
ACER make a dock for stand on a desk
ASUS make a keyboard dock for mobility and TRANSFORMER a tablet to a "netbook"
cannot be compare
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And most importantly the docking station should have its own 6 celled batteries so we can use our unit for 16,18 hours or more!
the dock is great, but is overprice
I've got the Acer dock for the A500. Once on in the dock all the remote does is control the nemo player. Left and right to choose between photos, music, and Videos. Enter to select. Back to go back a step. Select doesn't give you a list though, it just starts a slide show, a random song, or a random video from your selection. Power puts the tablet to sleep. Nothing but a headphone jack and a power jack on the dock besides the dock connector to the tablet. It is weighted and hold the tablet up fine, and in two positions.
You can press the Home button on the tablet itself (not the remote) to get out of the media player, and then use the tablet normally. But the only button on the remote that will work is the Home button to restart the media player.
Hopefully they have something better in mind. The user manual makes a reference to another dock WITH an HDMI passthrough, but I can't find any evidence of it on the web.
docks are a waste of money...agreed. if you just want to stand it up for something, the best way to do this is a very inexpensive art stand. these aren't expensive and it actually looks good on most furniture including your desk. this thing IS a waste of money
I have installed the Thor Rom 14.2.
Where I get the nemo Player back for that docking station?
I did a teardown of the dock in another thread (link) and found that the dock connector is, well, useless.
It has power, audio and a serial link (RS232 logic level). It is not possible to get HDMI through it though I'm guessing the other dock might give HDMI to the A100 tablets.
Also, custom kernels often don't include the driver required for the serial link on the dock so it's even more useless if you run a modded system.
Saw this bundle on Amazon http://www.amazon.ca/Skque-Premium-Protector-Earphone-Charger/dp/B006OIQC04/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&m=A3VAVEQC03JY97&s=generic&qid=1325865654&sr=1-15 and noticed that it included a micro usb car charger. Would this work with our tablets?
??? The manufacture says it will.
The a500 doesn't support usb charging, supposedly there will be an update to allow it.
~Sent from my Droid SuperCharge~
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The a500 doesn't support usb charging, supposedly there will be an update to allow it.
~Sent from my Droid SuperCharge~
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Do you have a link to a source stating that there will be an update to allow it?
It doesn't make sense to me, because the hardware physically can't support it (USB can only deliver 5V, whereas the A500 wants 12V IIRC)
It won't work like stated before a micro usb charger won't have the juice to do it. When you plug in the micro usb the charge light does not come on. Not supported and I don't know of any update that will change that.
Update: I just actually clicked on your link and the whole bundle is suspect. The wall charger is even a micro usb. Won't work, perfect example of a company throwing together a cheap bundle to entice the consumer that he is getting a great deal. I bet the chargers aren't even 1000ma which would be the minimum need to charge our tablet if it supported it.
charging and running a 12v device thru a 5 v port.. IF acer figures this out or any other company as in the one the OP is posting..
This company will RULE THE WORLD. BY SOLVING THE ENERGY demand crises in the world... Getting a bit over double energy as you put into something...
Sheesh even a Lame Blonde chic figured this out the day I BOUGHT MY iconia. it Says 12V 1.5 a on my charger... First thing i looked at so i could set my CAR INVERTER . for my tablet.. But with the battery life of the iconia I nearly never need it.. I can howerver charge my cell phone from the usb port in my tablet..
OP no offence but some companies will use popular device names just to trigger sales Read fine print and there exact specs. on any such device..
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Ok ..
Something just came to my mind.. .
I have a new notebook. that has a usb/sata port.. Now i know it required a special cable that is designed for a usb to sata hard drive to use it with a sata hard drive without a enclusure and it runs at the speed of a internal sata port.. when you connect a hard drive to this port . it shows up as a sata drive not a usb drive..
the drive i use is a 3.5 inch 2 tb hard disk that is 12v-5v..
so with this said. its actually pliable that this could work.. But im thinking our iconia does not have this type of usb port.. I will add the 12v usb /sata cable and hard drive will only work on that one usb port on my notebook. the others will not even register it.. If this is a device used in a usb/sata then connected to the Power port of the iconia.. there is a chance such a device COULD be created...
ok im rambling.. Because i DO NOT THINK THIS IS EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT.. most people do not even know this usb/sata shared technology exist....
LAME ERICA AGAIN.. sorry for stealing your thread op.. was just THOUGHTS
erica_renee said:
charging and running a 12v device thru a 5 v port.. IF acer figures this out or any other company as in the one the OP is posting..
This company will RULE THE WORLD. BY SOLVING THE ENERGY demand crises in the world... Getting a bit over double energy as you put into something...
Sheesh even a Lame Blonde chic figured this out the day I BOUGHT MY iconia. it Says 12V 1.5 a on my charger... First thing i looked at so i could set my CAR INVERTER . for my tablet.. But with the battery life of the iconia I nearly never need it.. I can howerver charge my cell phone from the usb port in my tablet..
OP no offence but some companies will use popular device names just to trigger sales Read fine print and there exact specs. on any such device..
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Ok ..
Something just came to my mind.. .
I have a new notebook. that has a usb/sata port.. Now i know it required a special cable that is designed for a usb to sata hard drive to use it with a sata hard drive without a enclusure and it runs at the speed of a internal sata port.. when you connect a hard drive to this port . it shows up as a sata drive not a usb drive..
the drive i use is a 3.5 inch 2 tb hard disk that is 12v-5v..
so with this said. its actually pliable that this could work.. But im thinking our iconia does not have this type of usb port.. I will add the 12v usb /sata cable and hard drive will only work on that one usb port on my notebook. the others will not even register it.. If this is a device used in a usb/sata then connected to the Power port of the iconia.. there is a chance such a device COULD be created...
ok im rambling.. Because i DO NOT THINK THIS IS EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT.. most people do not even know this usb/sata shared technology exist....
LAME ERICA AGAIN.. sorry for stealing your thread op.. was just THOUGHTS
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Dont be sorry, it is very interesting input. I am quite annoyed though because I was actually pretty stoked about having a USB charger. I agree the battery life is pretty good on the Iconia but there are always those days where you forget to charge the thing before going to work. (Thats what got me looking on Amazon in the first place)
I am doubly annoyed that someone might actually buy this and get a big disappointment when the product actually arrives.
Very curious about this SATA / USB port though. Time for some google fu!
i read the manual from HP with not much said in there other then its called a. USB/e-sata port.
I do also know its usb 3.0 standard this notebook is the HP dm1-us3020 model.I think the z version of this notebook does not have this port.the notebook is based on the and Fusion CPU.and gets 7 plus hours batterylife with moderate use.
Charging it is another story.its I think 9 cell li 19.7 v charging brick spent 125.00 for car inverter for this thing grrrrrrrr.
OK im at hair salon and its my turn.
wish me luck.
i believe what you're talking about is an eSATAp port. My (Toshiba) Satilite has one, I just use it as an extra USB port.
*Googles*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp
Some good stuff in there.
mtmerrick said:
i believe what you're talking about is an eSATAp port. My (Toshiba) Satilite has one, I just use it as an extra USB port.
*Googles*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp
Some good stuff in there.
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here is tthe cable I use .not sure if its the same brand
http://www.amazon.com/eSATA-Combo-P...LHVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325966252&sr=8-1
Yes that is the port.as I said above it will run a 3.5 hard drive connected with nothing more then a cheap USB to e-sata unmanaged.(no chips or resistores in cable) type of cable.for all I know all newer notebooks might have one.
I was just making a point that you could in theory charge your Iconia from this port to the Iconia power port.
As the hard drive requires12 vfrom my knowledge.but im not cutting my cable to try it.Don't ask Giggles.
erica_renee said:
here is tthe cable I use .not sure if its the same brand
http://www.amazon.com/eSATA-Combo-P...LHVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325966252&sr=8-1
Yes that is the port.as I said above it will run a 3.5 hard drive connected with nothing more then a cheap USB to e-sata unmanaged.(no chips or resistores in cable) type of cable.for all I know all newer notebooks might have one.
I was just making a point that you could in theory charge your Iconia from this port to the Iconia power port.
As the hard drive requires12 vfrom my knowledge.but im not cutting my cable to try it.Don't ask Giggles.
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Very interesting. According to wiki, laptop eSATAp ports deliver 5v and desktop eSATAp ports deliver 12v. Not sure where in the computer the extra v come from.
I don't have the charger with me so I don't know the specs but I'm wondering if a USB 3.0 to iconia power plug cable would hypothetically work?
Amazon item from op
I got very frustrated after looking around on amazon today for something diffrent.. Frustrated seeing this add for the product you talk about all over the iconia a500 searches on amazon.. So i emailed them about this product . giving them the specs of the a 500 along with a link to the required charger. I also did a review of the product warning anyone from buying this...
I suggest others do the same ITS JUST OUTRIGHT FRAUD...... the seller sent me a response stating the device will do what it says. well not for my iconia it will not..
Hi All,
I was searching for USB Dock for Note and found THIS on eBay.
for only $6.78 + Free Shipping :laugh:
I saw many of THE SAME docks going for $19.99 - $24.99 on eBay and Amazon,So this is definitely a good Deal IMO.
One Another Good thing is Economy International Shipping is also cheap on this.
only $1.99 to INDIA in my case. So gifted one to my buddy!!!
I dont know if I plug in MHL cable in back and use it as HDMI Dock
That would be awesome
-----------------------------------------------What Works and What Dose not------------------------------------------------
1. MHL Cable : NO (You can not connect MHL cable behind the Dock to do HDMI out )
2. Data X'fer : YES (You can simply attach your data cable to Computer to Transfer files to/from Phone)
3. USB OTG : ??? (Dont know why anybody would do this but i will check it tonight see if it works!)
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Thnx.
Thanks.
BTW I offered the seller 5.99 ea. for two,he gave me $6.49 for TWO.
So try offering him lower price. not a huge saving but hey dosent hurt to try!
MHL wont work
Well apparently, this dock is only good for charging / desk clock only.
you can not use MHL cable behind the dock and HDMI out.
It doses charges via MHL cable but dose not do HDMI out.
I know tht part sucks the most, but that is what it is.
Found a way to MOD the dock to work with MHL and USB OTG.
Stay tuned for [MOD] DIY Turn your SGNote Dock to do MHL & USB OTG.
With full guide and high res pics.
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Sorry folks I am too busy with LIFE. so I am not done with the full guide yet,
but you can find it HERE
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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I just came across this post and wanted to say THANKS. I was looking for exactly this information recently and you are so right, it is very difficult to find. So thanks for putting this up. I Guess I'm still not clear why you need a 5 to 11 adapter. Is the Note 2 micro USB either 5 or 11? And the power cable that comes with it, is it also either? But the HDMI powered unit requires 11 plus a plug in to power some power source. Rather confusing. Seems like Samsung didn't put the engineering time into this that they did into the Note 2 itself, which is an amazing piece of engineering. But this whole HDMI solution is rather clumsy IMO.
Meditating_Apes said:
I just came across this post and wanted to say THANKS. I was looking for exactly this information recently and you are so right, it is very difficult to find. So thanks for putting this up. I Guess I'm still not clear why you need a 5 to 11 adapter. Is the Note 2 micro USB either 5 or 11? And the power cable that comes with it, is it also either? But the HDMI powered unit requires 11 plus a plug in to power some power source. Rather confusing. Seems like Samsung didn't put the engineering time into this that they did into the Note 2 itself, which is an amazing piece of engineering. But this whole HDMI solution is rather clumsy IMO.
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Also a big thanks to OP for sharing. will be linking to this.
From my research (research doesn't = im right. Only confident) the Note II is an 11 pin micro usb. To achieve the best performance and functionality OTG and other adapters are best when 11 pin micro to whatever your going to. This means if you use a 5 to 11 conversion your only using a few available pins for a specific purpose. Essentially the Note II smart hub is taking advantage of the extra pin set on the 11pin micro that allows for in, out and multiple usb connections. The only thing it wont do is voltage out but that probably a good thing.
EPL-3FHUBEGSTA HDTV Universal Adapter (11PIN)
That is a direct 11 pin micro to HDMI from what I can tell . Sometimes voltage is used via HDMI to carry signal and smart control. I believe this is setup specific since some of the newer equipment doesn't rely on the extra juice. So in this case the need for a power supply is situational but not required 100% of the time. I would guess that its a good idea to use it when available though unless strictly not advised by a TV manufacture. The feed rating is usually in the user manual of your TV in the input details. Or simply ask the manufacture directly. Im sure a video/audio enthusiast has much more accurate data on voltages and HDMI so I wouldn't take any of this to heart until someone more official confirms or corrects this info.
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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I have an amkette 7 port usb hub powered by a 5 volt 2 amp charger. So if I connect the 11 pin mhl adapter to the note 2 and connect the supplied usb charger to one of the port, and plug in to the mhl hdmi adapter, I think it ought to work. Now my other query is if I plug in a few pen drives or hard drives, will it be detected?
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Manipur said:
I have an amkette 7 port usb hub powered by a 5 volt 2 amp charger. So if I connect the 11 pin mhl adapter to the note 2 and connect the supplied usb charger to one of the port, and plug in to the mhl hdmi adapter, I think it ought to work. Now my other query is if I plug in a few pen drives or hard drives, will it be detected?
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Unfortunately it isn't that simple. On the Note 2 and GS3 it's looking for a specific resistance value to determine if a MHL device or OTG adapter is plugged in. I'd you want to do both that's a smart hub. I'm midway threw my hack project of this now. It has been done already but using a 11 pin to 5 pin adapter hacking that then strapping a 41.2k resistor on it and some soldering. Let the usb hub do the powering and your good.
My version is just more complicated version of the above so not going to go in to it till its done
I made the mistake of buying the MHL HDMI 5 pin adapter that came with the 5 to 11 pin converter (ETC-EIA2BEGSTA)
I couldn't get it to work. Even with the 5 to 11 pin converter it wouldn't work? It would be a $40 waste of it doesn't.
Ron
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thanks dude thats what Im looking for.
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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Thanks for that advice - much appreciated. Now to take my 5-pin device back to Jaycar and look for an 11-pin version.
Cab121 said:
Unfortunately it isn't that simple. On the Note 2 and GS3 it's looking for a specific resistance value to determine if a MHL device or OTG adapter is plugged in. I'd you want to do both that's a smart hub. I'm midway threw my hack project of this now. It has been done already but using a 11 pin to 5 pin adapter hacking that then strapping a 41.2k resistor on it and some soldering. Let the usb hub do the powering and your good.
My version is just more complicated version of the above so not going to go in to it till its done
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How is it going with your project?
I'm really curious if it is possible to connect a TV, a keyboard and mouse "the cheap" way, without either buying a (in my opinion) very expensive smart dock, or bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Cab121 said:
Unfortunately it isn't that simple. On the Note 2 and GS3 it's looking for a specific resistance value to determine if a MHL device or OTG adapter is plugged in. I'd you want to do both that's a smart hub. I'm midway threw my hack project of this now. It has been done already but using a 11 pin to 5 pin adapter hacking that then strapping a 41.2k resistor on it and some soldering. Let the usb hub do the powering and your good.
My version is just more complicated version of the above so not going to go in to it till its done
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I am also following the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142357. But as you said, they use an 11 to 5 pin converter. I also do not want to use that (although it works and in last case, I´d rather that than the U$99 smart dock). So, if you have the specs I also wanna build one. Please post here you journey.
About the 5 and 11 ping controversy, I found this helpfull: http://www.galaxymhl.com/
So I've got this 5 pin MHL adapter for my SGS2 here.. I found a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter on ebay which I ordered. Will it work with my old MHL adapter on the note 2?
Menvaihelv... said:
So I've got this 5 pin MHL adapter for my SGS2 here.. I found a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter on ebay which I ordered. Will it work with my old MHL adapter on the note 2?
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I bought the 5 pin MHL with the 11 pin adaptor from Samsung and it didn't work for me
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I have this adapter that I purchased for my gs3 and it works fine with my note 2 as well. I watched a movie the other day with my kids using the adapter on my tv.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089VO86Y/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Manipur said:
I have an amkette 7 port usb hub powered by a 5 volt 2 amp charger. So if I connect the 11 pin mhl adapter to the note 2 and connect the supplied usb charger to one of the port, and plug in to the mhl hdmi adapter, I think it ought to work. Now my other query is if I plug in a few pen drives or hard drives, will it be detected?
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How do you connect the 11 pin MHL adaptor (HDMI out) to a 7-port USB Hub? Can you share your setup?
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Menvaihelv... said:
So I've got this 5 pin MHL adapter for my SGS2 here.. I found a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter on ebay which I ordered. Will it work with my old MHL adapter on the note 2?
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I have bought a 11-pin to 5-pin adaptor and it works. It save me from buying another MHL adaptor for S3/Note2.
Thanks for the info
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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Thanks !. I had looked for these info for a long time to choose the right MHL adapter for my GN2.
So I chose the official S3/GN2 MHL adapter and it works fine.
Note that the new GS4 adapter seems to be compatible with the S3/GN2, even if the new capabilities of MHL v2.0 standard are not usable on the GN2. So it's probably a good idea to go for that new one (same price), in case you plan to change for a GS4 (or a GN3 ?)
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
I am also interested in a split cable (USB OTG on 1 side and MHL on the other), which would be more practical than the big smart dock (that I have bought too )
I have solved my problem. My phone is a phone now and for my tv I have bought a Mk809 iii android tv stick. It supports all my hard drives even the ntfs ones. It plays everything. Now, if I can only find a way to root it...
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Hello,
I am also looking for a similar smart dock with USB-OTG, Charging and HDMI output for my potential buying of Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. I believe this tablet does offer the same via standard 11-pin micro USB connector (instead of the propreitary Samsung connector used in earlier models). Please see my thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566345
I was able to find a couple of smart docks, which are adverstised to work with GNII/III and Galaxy S3/S4, all of which I believe do have the 11-pin micro USB MHL connector. Please have a look at the following
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Multimedia-Dock-HDMI-USB-Dock-Station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-Galaxy-S4-I9500-S3/1439104485.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-High-Quality-HDMI-Smart-Multimedia-Dock-Charger-Station-Cradle-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-II/1405399957.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multimedia-Dock-station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-2-N7100-S3-S4-with-audio-out-and/1422156460.html
All of them are advertised to do all the functions simultaneously at the same time , that is "OTG + HDMI + Charging".
So based on the collective knowledge of the members on this thread, I need to know
1. Does any of you have tried this or a similar dock and found all functions to be working simultaneously and satisfactorily.
2. By a long shot, since S3/S4 also have an 11pin micro USB connector, have any of you tried or can comment on whether this dock would work with a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet. Theoretically and technically , i think it should but need your advice.
Thanks for reading and your feedback.
Important info
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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So Finally I got what I was looking for on internet. I was really disappointed for not finding a clear technical explanation for the new micro usb pin configuration of samsung devices, and its relation with MHL adapters and micro usb converters.
Just to make some points clear:
Note2, Note3, S3, S4 devices are all have 11-pin micro usb output, which means if you have an old MHL Adapter with 5-pin micro usb you should use a 11-pin - to - 5-pin adapter,
otherwise if you have MHL 1.0 (designed for s3 - 24Mhz refresh rate) OR MHL 2.0 (designed for s4 - 60Mhz refresh rate) you don't need pin converters.
For other samsung devices (Note1, S2, ....)supporting MHL feature but having 5-pin micro usb output, you can either use a compatible 5 pin MHL adapter (old versions...) without need of any pin converter, OR buy (MHL 1.0, MHL 2.0) and use 5-pin - to - 11-pin converter.
Summary
11-pin devices
S3,S4,Note2,Note3 <=> 11pin micro usb
MHL 1.0, MHL 2.0 <=> 11 pin micro usb
5-pin devices
S2, Note1, ... <=> 5 pin
Old MHL adapters <=> 5 pin
Mix and match between those two different pin configurations you need to use converter from 5 - 11 or 11 - 5
source of information
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
Sorry for bringing this post back from the dead...
But...
So I'm already aware of needing the converter for the 5to11 or 11to5 pin in regards to the MHL adapter. My question - is there any benefit to having an 11-pin micro USB cord (as in, should I begin to purchase 11-pin [if available] micro USB cords for all my devices to obtain such benefits [data, charging speed, etc...] or is the 11-pin fad only with Samsung and it's purpose is geared towards data transfer and the MHL adapter?
I'm a little confused on the matter.
-SlyG07
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slayer418 said:
Since I just can't find any definitive answer by searching on google, is it possible to mirror S8 screen to a monitor while also being able to use USB devices (such as Logitech Unifying mouse & keyboard) and maybe also while charging the damn phone?
If yes, where can I buy such an incredible dongle ?
Edit: This video make it seems like it'd exists but doesn't give a link to buy the dongle...
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Alibaba is your friend..
Type C to HDMI Adapter,USB C to VGA HD TV Converter For Apple Macbook S8 S7 Note 8 USB Hub OTG TV Adapter Charging Silver mini
http://s.aliexpress.com/mayiMJJj?fromSns=Copy to clipboard
(from AliExpress Android)
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B071NJWWXL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
tonime said:
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B071NJWWXL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Yeah I have gotten a similar one already which is working fine, thanks for the replies guys tho.