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guesses? rumors? news? anyone? lots of hype about this. but it kinda seems like vibrant is gonna get left in the dust seeing as how we are still on 2.1. from what i have been reading, 2.3 (gingerbread) will be out within a week! so us vibrant users will be 2 versions behind! (wtf tmo and samsung?) my thoughts are maybe they didnt update us cuz they where just waiting for 2.3 to come out and wanted to get all the updating done at once. but i do kinda live in a fantasy world (drugs are bad mmmkay) so what are the thought from the fine folks here at xda on this matter?
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guesses? rumors? news? anyone? lots of hype about this. but it kinda seems like vibrant is gonna get left in the dust seeing as how we are still on 2.1. from what i have been reading, 2.3 (gingerbread) will be out within a week! so us vibrant users will be 2 versions behind! (wtf tmo and samsung?) my thoughts are maybe they didnt update us cuz they where just waiting for 2.3 to come out and wanted to get all the updating done at once. but i do kinda live in a fantasy world (drugs are bad mmmkay) so what are the thought from the fine folks here at xda on this matter?
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Lol JK2 was leaked. We will have an official froyo soon seing as that. And we will be able to port 2.3, don't worry
not sure what jk2 is. i am still kinda a noob. but that would be nice to get an official 2.2 update. i kinda want flash so i can watch southpark. haha
djkozdefantastico said:
not sure what jk2 is. i am still kinda a noob. but that would be nice to get an official 2.2 update. i kinda want flash so i can watch southpark. haha
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Jk2 is a build number of the most recent (and most important since its specifically for vibrants) froyo. Before this all the froyo roms out has been built off of other variations on diff models/carrier.
The fact that jk2 was leaked means the official ota for all tmobile customers is real and immenent.
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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It doesn't matter if they do or not. Like I said above, "We can port it"
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3. Samsung will probably release 2.2 somewhere between 2-4 months behind the competition. That doesn't give me great hope that we'll ever seen 2.3. Figure that it took HTC/Motorola 2-3 months to turn 2.2 final into 2.2 custom versions to OTA, then we are looking at 4-7 months from now for 2.3 if all of the same timeframes hold. That's probably past the window that this phone will receive official updates.
well seems like the ported versions of the firmware updates have problems, like the headphone jack not working. or gps lagging ect. (not to say the developers didnt do a good job{ cuz they did an awesome job}) but i use that stuff lots. i agree with lex tho. i think that we will probly stop geting updates after awhile so that the newer more awesome phones can get bought up.
Akaskriller say he has an official 2.2 froyo ready for those who donates to his site.. I saw the vid it looks good
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Tough call. I would say 1 year till official release...
mmmm im thinkin honeycomb (3.0) will be out within a year. prob not for our phones tho. we will have to upgrade to the we will have to upgrade to the galaxy t hahaha
2.3 won't be that different
2.3 won't be that different It will change the resolution mainly to allow a bigger screen Right now 2.2 really can only function on a 7 inch screen without some mods so 2.3 will have that integrated. 3.0 will have real differences, but Vibrant has become the developers phone of choice so, you will see that on the phone as soon as it gets out.
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2.3 won't be that different It will change the resolution mainly to allow a bigger screen Right now 2.2 really can only function on a 7 inch screen without some mods so 2.3 will have that integrated. 3.0 will have real differences, but Vibrant has become the developers phone of choice so, you will see that on the phone as soon as it gets out.
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ROFL.
No, not really.
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Akaskriller say he has an official 2.2 froyo ready for those who donates to his site.. I saw the vid it looks good
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it is no more official than any of the others that are out.
I doubt it will take that long. Look, the Galaxy S took a while because these are the first phones using the Hummingbird CPU. People say HTC and Motorola are more on the ball, but they're using the same Snapdragon and OMAP cores since the beginning. Heck, Froyo was originally built for the Snapdragon--no wonder Froyo is easy to port to those phones.
Now they've got Froyo on the Hummingbird, I would think future releases will be easier to port based on the accumulated experience.
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I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3. Samsung will probably release 2.2 somewhere between 2-4 months behind the competition. That doesn't give me great hope that we'll ever seen 2.3. Figure that it took HTC/Motorola 2-3 months to turn 2.2 final into 2.2 custom versions to OTA, then we are looking at 4-7 months from now for 2.3 if all of the same timeframes hold. That's probably past the window that this phone will receive official updates.
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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You don't visited the developer section much or what?
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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No. Froyo was pushed to the nexus one in late june.
HTC/Motorola pushed it 2-3 months after that and samsung will wind up another 2-4 months after that, depending on when they finally push it.
2.3 will be pushed any day now to the nexus one, so you can do the math from there if you assume the same timeline. My guess its that pushes 2.3 out of the window for the upgrade.
Guys.. Froyo should be out before Christmas. Team Whiskey and Eugene already got it. And tmobile is sending OTA to people with JI6 to downgrade back to JFD. They're preparing peoples phones.
Okay, we have froyo, now we are set... OH WAIT GINGERBREAD IS COMING OUT I AM NEVER HAPPY OTHER PHONES WILL HAVE IT BEFORE ME CRY CRY CRY CRY.
Seriously, I can assure you gingerbread is not going to come out this year.
And the N1 is the dev phone so of course it's going to be first to snatch up the latests firmware.
Heck, samsung or tmobile DIDNT PROMISE YOU ANY UPDATES. You bought the phone and that is it. They have your money, what are you going to do know? Didn't you check on the behold? I think they are stuck on 1.6 same as the Cliq. BE HPPY you got froyo.
I don't care what anyone else says, I happy with my froyo.
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Heck, samsung or tmobile DIDNT PROMISE YOU ANY UPDATES.
I don't care what anyone else says, I happy with my froyo.
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actually when i bought the phone i got ****in played man. haha the people at the t-mo store told me i would get all the updates as soon as they came out, and that i would get 4 g on my vibrant. thats when i didnt know much about the phone, or phones at all. but now that im doing my research, im finding out that none of that stuff is true! im liking t-mo. but dont like how they lied to me to buy the vibrant. i was even looking right at the g2. like 'what about this one?' 'na man! you want the vibrant' i love my vibrant. but i also am gonna want 4g and firmware updates in the future.
Just looking at Dailymobile.se and came across:
http://dailymobile.se/2011/01/08/android-2-3-ported-to-iphone-3g-video-demo/
Seems that the we N1 owners really are having to wait
Dude I am running Gingerbread on my N1 for to weeks now...
i'm pretty sure he means OTA
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Dude I am running Gingerbread on my N1 for to weeks now...
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Exactly! if you are so desperate for gingerbread, root your phone , install micromod's gingerbread and your good to go.
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i'm pretty sure he means OTA
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Well the iphone certainly didnt get it over the air either. Just root and install it already. There are plenty of fine versions to choose from with features the ota certainly will never have.
Pathetic
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Check the dev section much? N1 has had Gingerbread roms for a while now.
And if you're talking about an OTA... I didn't realize the iPhone got an OTA?
Not going to happen...
I'm imagining (okay, praying) there was a 30-day exclusive on GB given to the Nexus S. Release date for NS was 12/16, so that'd delay the N1 OTA until about 1/16. So that's the end of this week...
great thread we've got here
yeah man... growing long bear waiting for GB...
I hope google takes it upon themselves one of these days to get the damn update process together and get official updates out to non vanilla phones at least a month or 2 after the update is available (stock phones should have had this from day one). I should be rooting my phone out of fun and not necessity to get the latest update (well this doesn't actually apply to me because I did do it out of fun with the old command prompt back in march, but to some folks it's necessity or not even an option at all).
what a useless thread.... iPhone's Gingerbread is a mod, just like the ones for the N1.... geeeeeeezzz
Lemme know when Apple sends out an OTA update of Google Gingerbread to all iPhone users.
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what a useless thread.... iPhone's Gingerbread is a mod, just like the ones for the N1.... geeeeeeezzz
Lemme know when Apple sends out an OTA update of Google Gingerbread to all iPhone users.
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+1
This is ridiculous.
And I don't even know why you're all still waiting for the damned official release.
Who gives a f****? Root, flash amon_ra 2.2.1, flash CyanogenMod 7 nightly et voilà.
I think either these people are trolls or insane 10 year old brats.
We've all been running Gingerbread for quite some time now, and they still feel the need to complain when there is a hacked port to the iPhone?
There are a few trolls around here lately...easy to ID by their posts!
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I hope google takes it upon themselves one of these days to get the damn update process together and get official updates out to non vanilla phones at least a month or 2 after the update is available (stock phones should have had this from day one). I should be rooting my phone out of fun and not necessity to get the latest update (well this doesn't actually apply to me because I did do it out of fun with the old command prompt back in march, but to some folks it's necessity or not even an option at all).
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I agree.
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For your information
Bell will be releasing the update early summer for our dearly beloved device!
Link
woo hoo!
Good to hear that they are going to keeping the phone up to date. I switched to custom ROMs months ago and haven't looked back. ;-)
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I'm on JVP but I will switch back to stock for I9000m when it's out.
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Ah, this is what I've been watching for. I would like to know what they mean by "early summer", though - we're already 2 1/2 weeks into summer.
Would have been nice if they'd ever released the 2.2.1 update, but anyway, I guess I'll probably stop pursuing FW flashing for now, since updated stock was mostly what I wanted. Then again, I would like to root and do so other stuff...
Thanks for the heads-up.
Thanks for letting us know! The wait since official release of Gingerbread for Galaxy S was rather long and I was tempted to just go for Cyanogen Mod, but the advantage of stock firmware is the full hardware support.
Besides some of the apps from Samsung such as the music player, video player, the camera... are pretty good (and not available for CM7). Also I quite like that a Canadian version of swype is included in the stock fw (can we get that on CM7?)
Of course I don't like the bloatware that Bell includes, and there's a lot to like about CM7 such as the wiimote support, lots of small improvements & settings, the original gingerbread look & feel...
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I hope it's 2.3.4 so we don't suffer from the battery drain.
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom is the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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Awww... I was about to give up waiting for it and flash Faryaab's F1 Galaxy S2 V6 ... the video made it look amazing!
To wait or not to wait ... that is the question!
YAY glad i held of flashing for this long. Will go Official and see how it works. I want it mainly for drivers and CSC as i love using DOC's ROM. Hopefully he will add some of the new features to the kitchen if not already there.
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I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom it's the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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I think the same!
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Yea french canadian swype is must have, I don't want to see an azerty anymore!
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Nice I'll wait for this now as well, heck I held off GB for this long what's a few more weeks. Realized yesterday I have over a month of uptime right now with 2.2.1 JS8, so no hurry to switch.
What made me a bit nervous about custom GB is flashing the bootloaders. It doesn't seem like there's a problem with ones from other regions but with official release so close I might as well wait, go back to to a stock Bell 2.2 ROM and flash the GB bootloaders the 'right' way.
Also kernels and the like for 2.3 seem to be just maturing, I love speedmod with BLN and CWM on my phone right now. Seems like everything but BLN is in speedmod for GB now maybe it will come soon.
we're already in early summer...
i wonder though how much of an improvement it would be over JVQ if at all. I held out sooo long from flashing with ODIN but couldn't stand the lag of 2.2 and flashed JVP and then JVQ a couple of weeks ago; 2.3.4 JVQ seems much quicker than KC1.
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we're already in early summer...
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Well like I've read in some comments on MobileSyrup, summer is 3 months. Early summer is June 21 to July 20th, Mid summer would be July 21 to August 20 and late summer would be August 21 to September 20. We still have 2 other weeks of Early summer then.
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we're already in early summer...
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I wouldn't expect it before at least july 14th.
On that date, the SGS2 will be available at Bell stores ... with GB already loaded.
It wouldn't make sense for them to make GB available for the SGS before the SGS2 comes out IMHO...
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Also kernels and the like for 2.3 seem to be just maturing, I love speedmod with BLN and CWM on my phone right now. Seems like everything but BLN is in speedmod for GB now maybe it will come soon.
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See that's why held off going to GB, my phone is in the best state it could be in and having anything less is unacceptable. Gingerbread has come a long way since released by Samsung but still not like the Froyo we have today and all the features/enhancements the devs has made.
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I hope it's 2.3.4 so we don't suffer from the battery drain.
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom is the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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Yeah... I definitely worried about that too. It needs to be 2.3.4!
I can't wait for the update, but hopefully they do it right and not effff up things royally like the Froyo FW that killed many Internal SDs... (including mine)
Pfft, Im glad I didnt wait for official releases, takes donkeys ages to roll them out, I would have wanted to toss this phone if I was stuck on Froyo all this time
and we continue to patiently wait?
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I hope it's 2.3.4 so we don't suffer from the battery drain.
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom is the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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I modded a JVP rom with an updated Swype keyboard with fr-CA support if you are interested.
Samsung will start 2.3.4 updates over KIES in August for Galaxy S II.
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/95528275677413376
Soon so many people can download it from Kies or use Odin for it for Official one..CAN'T WAIT
I wish they just release the source code for the 2.3.4 kernels xD
Will it be available worlwide?
RayeEarth said:
Will it be available worlwide?
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Yes it will
Just read this on twitter, look forward to it
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Just read this on twitter, look forward to it
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same and Hope all bugs will be fixed
Sounds great, hope not "late august"
SiSL said:
Sounds great, hope not "late august"
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I hope it will be Early or Middle of the Month (I wish it is Early)
That's not official, so we will have to wait and see! I hope so, because then we can get 2.3.4 source for custom kernels
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I hope is August....2011.
Deja vu. We already saw the same message in June, saying "Samsung are going to release 2.3.4. in July". Maybe this time it will happen...or maybe not. Then we will see this for September. Sooner ot later, they will gues right.
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Deja vu. We already saw the same message in June, saying "Samsung are going to release 2.3.4. in July". Maybe this time it will happen...or maybe not. Then we will see this for September. Sooner ot later, they will gues right.
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Was thinking the same, plus they seem to be miles away from a good fw release, since day one the major issues have been the AOS bug, the pink spot camera, the gradients, all still present in KG3, which even added more bugs like the fc while playing flash content...
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Deja vu. We already saw the same message in June, saying "Samsung are going to release 2.3.4. in July". Maybe this time it will happen...or maybe not. Then we will see this for September. Sooner ot later, they will gues right.
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Keep in mind the tweet's from samfirmware, not Samsung. Since May, he/they have posted about five "X is coming by X" messages and they've been wrong all five times. With phone's already shipping with 2.3.4 in some parts of the world I'd say we'll start seeing updates soon. Maybe I should tweet that - it would be as accurate a guess as samfirmware's.
Why doesn't Samsung tweet official ETA's ?
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Why doesn't Samsung tweet official ETA's ?
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Why should they? They've committed to nothing at the time we bought the phone and publicizing dates and then potentially not hitting them would just piss people off. Besides, this way, it's kind of like Christmas.
Now August, it was July first. Ehh..
Can't wait !!!
I was talking with Samsung today and I asked "so we can expect the 2.3.4 in next 30 days for sgs2" and Sammy guys told me it will be before but they dont know exactly when still no information... They dont know the date ...
Also they said that they are planning to release Ginger for SGS next month (or this for some countries dunno) and 2.3.4 version in september - October
which firmware KIES need detect to make the 2.3.4 available?
2.3.3 with 2.3.3 kernel and 2.3.3 CSC??
i am interested in the answer to that last post also.
i updated my s2 to KE7 through odin as KIES wasnt offering it to vodafone handsets quick enough. will kies even offer it to me when it is available?
Danny D from Sammobile
Hopefully a good answer by insiders tomorrow. till now nothing.
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expect the leak to happen soon!!
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3389&page=23&p=22904&viewfull=1#post22904
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Danny D from Sammobile
expect the leak to happen soon!!
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3389&page=23&p=22904&viewfull=1#post22904
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if it is true then god bless sammobile and note
Awesome News an ICS leak will definately bump NOTE sales.
Not to spoil the party or anything, but from what i read, he says that he will get an answer as to when the ICS leak will arrive. Not that it is arriving tomorrow. Either way, good news for us
says nothing about a leak tomorrow, it says hes waiting for info from an inside source tomorrow.
i think everyone is forgetting that the full ics is due to be pushed out to our Notes by Samsung before the end of march anyway, they still have a deadline of first quarter, so id see no point in installing a leak, id sooner await the official version as thanks to the great team of devs we have here theres some awesome gb roms with ics customisations anyway, once you go ics its gonna to be another long wait b4 we start seeing custom roms.
Hope that the ICS fix the rendering issues.
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says nothing about a leak tomorrow, it says hes waiting for info from an inside source tomorrow.
i think everyone is forgetting that the full ics is due to be pushed out to our Notes by Samsung before the end of march anyway, they still have a deadline of first quarter, so id see no point in installing a leak, id sooner await the official version as thanks to the great team of devs we have here theres some awesome gb roms with ics customisations anyway, once you go ics its gonna to be another long wait b4 we start seeing custom roms.
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Luckily I'm not you. I'm waiting for development of cm9. A true custom rom, not tweak stock rom. As long as nova works I'll be happy.
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says nothing about a leak tomorrow, it says hes waiting for info from an inside source tomorrow.
i think everyone is forgetting that the full ics is due to be pushed out to our Notes by Samsung before the end of march anyway, they still have a deadline of first quarter, so id see no point in installing a leak, id sooner await the official version as thanks to the great team of devs we have here theres some awesome gb roms with ics customisations anyway, once you go ics its gonna to be another long wait b4 we start seeing custom roms.
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We need this leak so we can finish CM9, which is a custom ROM. If you want to run a bloated TouchWiz ROM that's fine with me, but the current ROMs here aren't fully customized ROMs since they're only tweaked versions of the original ROMs. CM9 will push the development further since it's built from scratch.
And when CM9 is finished we might see MIUI since MIUI is based on CM.
pfff sgs2 got again ics leak,fuuuuu
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We need this leak so we can finish CM9, which is a custom ROM. If you want to run a bloated TouchWiz ROM that's fine with me, but the current ROMs here aren't fully customized ROMs since they're only tweaked versions of the original ROMs. CM9 will push the development further since it's built from scratch.
And when CM9 is finished we might see MIUI since MIUI is based on CM.
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+1 I really like finally see CM9 and MIUI for the Note
The SGS II has had over 5 leaks of the ICS Rom. They have all progressively gotten more stable with each release / leak.
I am thinking, the NOTE will also encounter a very buggy leak and start getting better as SamMobile starts "leaking" roms.
All in all, its a good thing since it allows the CM team to probe further with solutions rather than creating them from scratch.
Guys a new firmware shows up at sammobile right now... http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
N7000UBKK8 ...is this an ics version?
Yes they are supposed to release some info today hopefully a leak?
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Doubt it, it for Argentina, prolly just another maintenance update.
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Guys a new firmware shows up at sammobile right now... http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
N7000UBKK8 ...is this an ics version?
Yes they are supposed to release some info today hopefully a leak?
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You know, from the looks of it, when it was stated probably tomorrow, it seemed as if they were speaking of the ICS leak for the SGS II and sure enough, it was released when stated.
So it seems that we wont be getting one since it was in reference to the SGS II.
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Doubt it, it for Argentina, prolly just another maintenance update.
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Oh yes this is a gb one...hehe
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a lot of new firmware for all the country..
N7000UBKK8, N7000JPLA1, N7000ZSLA2..
most probably the last 2.3.6 for gb update for each country n carrier. maybe after that they can focus on ICS.
Our hardware with s2 almost the same except that digitizer so that why they testing it on s2 first than later on our note.
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+1 I really like finally see CM9 and MIUI for the Note
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Yes, miui gives me a semi
From the giant: Galaxy Note
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a lot of new firmware for all the country..
N7000UBKK8, N7000JPLA1, N7000ZSLA2..
most probably the last 2.3.6 for gb update for each country n carrier. maybe after that they can focus on ICS.
Our hardware with s2 almost the same except that digitizer so that why they testing it on s2 first than later on our note.
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Good Point
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Yes, miui gives me a semi
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Lol. I can't wait for it either!
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Our hardware with s2 almost the same except that digitizer so that why they testing it on s2 first than later on our note.
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It would seem so, but as has been stated in the CM9 Alpha thread some of the driver components are different, or at least the BLOBs are. This is the reason why the camera does not work there and Bluetooth is unstable. So it's not only the digitizer that has to be implemented anew. Also, if you look at the official teardown pictures from Samsung you notice that the chip manufacturer is stroke out. Many newssites speculated about whether or not this means it's not the Exynos chip working in there (or at least not the 'usual' model). But this is only a rumour, whereas the camera and the Bluetooth module are definately different.