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p3600 A2dp, crappy sound

The quality of music with A2DP is really bad, have much better sound with my qtek s110 with a2dp hack. I have been using the same sony ericsson ds970. Is there anything that can be done about it?

perhaps you can follow the instruction to turn on the stereo, then the sound will be better.

This is my experience to. I had a SE m600i before and the sound was way much better on that device.

The sound clearly suckes with the headset that is packet with the P3600.
The sound on the S100 was far more better.
Lets just hope the ATi chip get's activated on the rom-update, so that the Graphics and Sound get better.

guys, could you please be more specific? what exactly made you unhappy about the sound produced by HTC Trinity?
please define the problem. is it too soft, too loud, lacking bass or higher frequencies, choppy, etc, etc????
P.S. forget about stock standard wired headset supplied with your Trinity. it's bad.

Azamat said:
The sound clearly suckes with the headset that is packet with the P3600.
The sound on the S100 was far more better.
Lets just hope the ATi chip get's activated on the rom-update, so that the Graphics and Sound get better.
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ATI chip?

Guys try using the Hermes Registry Tweaker
I used the hermes registry tweaker to take BT Stereo sound from "Okay" to "Excellent" the tool has five levels of quality as well a tweak to enable true stereo rather than joint stereo.
It worked for me! You can unlock and mount EXTrom too.
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3311

It has a desturbing sound on the higher tones and the bas is muffled. I tried the fit4 program and changed to the best quality, it sounded a little bit better but it was hard to hear, beacuse now the music skips even more thnat earlier. You know you ger music for a while, it cuts of for a second and then comes back. Now it does this every 5 seconds.

CutePinkSox said:
I used the hermes registry tweaker to take BT Stereo sound from "Okay" to "Excellent" the tool has five levels of quality as well a tweak to enable true stereo rather than joint stereo.
It worked for me! You can unlock and mount EXTrom too.
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3311
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just tested it here. seems to work. The setting was on LOW on my trinity.
I also tried to turn on the GPS settings, which turned on a nice little menu for configuration of the GPS. Looks promising if this is what we get
does not look like the settings gets any gps functionality to be activated besides the settings.

Excellent
Made a big diference on mine too! Nice to know it worked for you.
Try this to disable joint stereo so you get REAL stereo sound, then you will see the difference.

..now the music skips even more thnat earlier. You know you ger music for a while, it cuts of for a second and then comes back. Now it does this every 5 seconds.
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please see this thread for details. There are good chances for this little gem to work on Trinity as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974

you guys might also want to check out the effort made to port the WIDCOMM stack onto the hermes (to replace the microsoft BT stack). the widcomm stack is superioir and the testers so far have indicated that sound on a2dp is great. the hermes and trinity are basically the same... so it might work.
the development thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419&highlight=widcomm+development
also consider a donation if you like here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284329&highlight=100+users

Last time I tried the Widcomm stack the stack started well, but I couldn't see any bluetooth device. The blue-led did not flash either.

Can't find any bluetooth device.
adewidt said:
Last time I tried the Widcomm stack the stack started well, but I couldn't see any bluetooth device. The blue-led did not flash either.
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Same here ....

3D surround configuration
On page 78 of Trinity's manual there is an instruction to set the 3D surround configuration at the headset by going to
Start> Settings > Personal > 3D Surround Sound
and enabling surround sound + setting levels.
I simply can't find the "3D surround sound" selection at >Personal tab...
Can someone help me to configure (eventually by using some registry configuration) how to make this command to appear?
Seems to me this could help to improve stereo quality at P3600...

low volume on p3600i
SecureGSM said:
guys, could you please be more specific? what exactly made you unhappy about the sound produced by HTC Trinity?
please define the problem. is it too soft, too loud, lacking bass or higher frequencies, choppy, etc, etc????
P.S. forget about stock standard wired headset supplied with your Trinity. it's bad.
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The problem with my new p3600i is that the volume is much too low. With volume control at max setting, I can just hear music in a quiet environment. e.g. an empty room. When there is any background noise, e.g walking along the street, on a train etc, it is almost inaudible. I am mainly listening to classical music, so the dynamic variation is greater than for rock etc., but nevertheless very disappointing.
I am using the supplied headset, but the sound is not loud enough to know what the quality is like.
Are there any setting I haven't found yet? All the talk about changing the ROM sounds like something which might void the warranty
thanks
John

I have used HTC_UseJointStereff.cab and HTweakC, it seems that the sound changes a little, i don't konw which helps, but they help....
Thank you all.

Trinity A2DP problems - Temporary solution

Well, I was unsure if I should post this under one of the old posts, but I decided to start it as a new clean post...
Many are having problem with "hissing" noise, joint-stereo and low bitrate(or bitpool). For my sake, I've tried "fit4cat - Hermes Tweaker", "Sleuth255 A2DP fix" and several other methods, but without beeing able to get the soundquality I want from my headset.
Now, this is what worked for me after tweaking around with the registry a while, and endless pairing sessions
Download a registry editor(I use PHM, http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ <- Download the PocketPC 2002/2003 ARM/PXA)
1: Turn off bluethooth on the Trinity
2: Unpair the Trinity with the headset(Delete the headset from the list!)
3: Change the following registry settings:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings
MaxSupportedBitPool=80
MinSupportedBitPool=40 (or more if you want)
(if these arn't there, add them!)
And DELETE:
UseJointStereo = 0/1 (depending on whatever you have put there before)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]
Priority256=149
(let the rest be as it is)
4: Reboot
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
So the solution to this, is to go to the device list on the trinity after you have lost connection with the headset(this is if you have turned of the trinity or the headset), and hold the stylus on it and choose "Use as wirelss stereo" and "use as handsfree"...
Thanks to all of you guys here who have posted solutions to the A2DP problems And if anyone have suggestions to other values that are better fit then the onces I've supplied, share them with us
And if all of this have been posted in another thread that I've missed out, the moderators are free to delete this one

Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.

Tiemen said:
Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.
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Hehe! The thing that made me going was that I was able to get perfect sound once or twice, and since I made it work those few times I just had to find out what I actually did that made this work (And paying 175$ for the headset also keept me fueled for a while ) hehe!
I think I've used about 5-6 hours total these two days sitting pairing, adjusting settings, rebooting(ARGH!), untill I found out that the problem actually occurs when you use the headset to pair instead of the trinity

I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?

meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?
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1: Well, I'm not sure on the bluetooth 2.0 specs, so If there is a spec limit on 64kbps, then this is new to me.
2: And the skippingproblem is not just connected to the CPU-usage.. But if you have some info on this issue, then please; do share it with us.
3: A2DP headset with minijack is available many places, even HTC has one. And if you take a look at DS970, you will see that it's the same as Sony MDR-series.
4: And well, the CPU usage is a issue, but that is the only part that I agree with you on..(but let us be frank, I've bought a pair of A2DP headset, so I do smell a bit "conflict of interests" here...)
And to the bottom line, I've bought the Trinity because it's one hell of a gadget, and so is bluetooth stereo So if anyone want to shoot me for that, well hell yeah, go ahead
Edit: And FYI meroupow: I do feel you are a bit rude in the way you wrote that response, or at least a bit arrogant when you post a comment like that. Trying to mock people who have bought A2DP headsets and are tweaking and fixing issues to make them work correct(this also goes for GPS on the phone, black coating comming off, improving camera quality, getting the ATI ImageOn to work correctly... etc) . And I must honestly say that yes, you do have some points there, but you should be able to present your views in a much more polite way...

Sound better but discontinuou. Impossible ear music. The sound goes on and off continuously. Why?. How can I do?

I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.

I've got a CB2530, hard to pair and I still don't know what do I do for the pairing to be successful, but I do manage to pair it after a few attempts, on the registry I just disable jointstereo, set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 320 and the quality is quite nice and with minimal skipping. High cpu usage of course, but if I set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 80 the quality is quite crappy and the device gets equally sluggish(gets worse when you touch on the screen, as K-Rally does even with the new ROM).
As for the pairing, I still haven't confirmed, but I think the registry setting that enables the bluesnarf option on BTCrawler has something to do with it(the bluetooth ISC mode thing), because right after setting it I managed to pair the headset right away, the thing is, I was also successful in other occasions when I hadn't set that reg. option.
Hearing the pairing sound from the trinity or headset doesn't indicate anything on my case, and I think I've already tried these reg settings you mention, but I'll try them again as soon as I get home to see if there's any difference and post the results.

meroupow said:
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
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Install the Widcomm BT stack. With that, you won't have complaints - neither have I.

meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
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Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.

neofix said:
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
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Does anyone know what is changed when you DO pair with the button on the headphones? With some models, you MUST do it because, otherwise, the music will be muted after about a second (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282008 for more info).
I've searched around in the Registry for changes, without any success. It's possible we could directly edit the headphone connection-dependent parameters set AFTER the headphone's initiating the connection to avoid sound problems. If we knew where they're stored, that is.

Menneisyys said:
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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On trinity?

meroupow said:
I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.
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BTW: is it the profile and software on the phones/PDAs that arn't handling it, or is it the standard itself that sucks? (or in other words, should I keep my headset for later usage or return it to the store)

I use Plantronics 590a and the skipping problem appears very rarely, mainly when I use volume/track buttons on headset. However, yesterday I also connected the headset to a normal stereo (via the 3.5mm adapter) and noticed the same occasional skipping. So in my opinion the skipping issue problem might be from headset, not Trinity.
I also tried a Nokia stereo bluetooth headset and noticed serious skipping problems - unusable.
PS: there is indeed a skipping problem if I open/close other applications while listening to music. It looks like the processor is very busy - system very slow etc.
PPS: any suggestions for a player that has equalizer? WMP doesn't and the sound is not that great (especially when compared to my old SE P900 which had an excellent player - best I've heard so far... )

Originally Posted by Menneisyys
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)

Stereo BT experience is very positive
Hi all,
As always, someone has to have a different view of the issue. I got my trinity a couple of weeks ago and went and bought a Plantronics Pulsar 280 stereo headset. Mostly because of the stereo jack. I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design. Even you may choose the actual headset of your dreams by using the standard 2.5mm jack. I have owned a "no brand" headset (still do) but it is not BT 2.0 and I think it makes a difference. The plantronics does not skip and it sounds great. Most of my MP3 is 128k and above so no limits with that. I have not checked my registry settings as they are default rom image set. I am using ROM 1.15.412.2 and Radio 1.20.00.11 (my trinity only speaks spanish for now, hope to change that soon).
Point being that the software and quality of the headphones makes all the difference, don't be so quick to blame trinity, just a piece of my mind. Keep it up guys!!!

baramuse said:
If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)
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Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.

danosimo said:
Hi all,
I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design.
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If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!

aZooZa said:
Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.
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Up to now, I haven't managed to do it; see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291605 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286094 . Sorry for telling you it might be possible - I assumed it would, as it is on most other HTC models.

anonimo said:
If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!
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set UseJointStereo to 0

A2DP skip : any solution ?

I am trying Touch HD with a Jabra 620s, A2DP (stereo headset profile), but I suffer occasional music skips.
I have read numerous thread about this problem, and habitual registery fixes like Priority256 etc.. doesnot seems to work with Touch HD.
With Bitpool=30 I have no skip, but sound is awful.
With Bitpool=40 I begin to skip. JOINEDSTEREO=1 helps a little.
I have not tried all Bitpool values below 40 (painful, softreset etc..) but Bitpool=40 is minimum quality IMO.
I tweaked Priority256 (/HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/BtA2dpSnd) down to 1, with not much improvement.
I noticed also turning Wifi off helps, but it is no sufficient.
Does anyone of you use A2DP ? Do you have problems ? Thanks for your help.

i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..

I get skips too. Haven't figured a solution yet.

I'm using Moto S9 stereo BT headset, I have the same problem......
And I noticed, when I start play music, and press the powerbutton make the HD enter the blackscreen mode, the quality is good, and music play very smooth, but if I press powerbutton again make the HD back to normal status, and screen on, big stutter occured, and after some seconds BT lost connect with HD......

It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?

i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...

Skipping?
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.

kareem9nba said:
It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?
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I've seen it, but not installed it for two reasons :
1) It isn't validated for WM6 nor for Touch HD
2) It seems to eat CPU time too much, according to certain posts
Thanks for the tips anyways. If someone more daring than me installs it on Touch HD, keeps up informed.

pzucchel said:
i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...
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A lot of people have problems with A2DP, but a lot too have none. I'm pretty sure problem comes from poor BT stack, not A2DP technology itself or BT broadcast / EMI problems. I've almost the same skipping rate with my headset 30cm from my HD, than 5 or 8m from my HD.
Your suggestion is wise, but I'm eager to make my Christmas present functionnal..

audscott said:
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.
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I've just downloaded it and tryied it. For now, no skip at all !!! (with BitPool=42) This application seems to be very optimized for A2DP.
I keep you informed in this thread if this resolves my issue. I want to increase Bitpool to 50 or more to have optimal quality (I listen classical), and I hope PP will handle this datarate.
Thanks for this excellent advice audscott.

tyronne1126 said:
i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..
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I also have had no problems using the HBH-DS980 except that I too can't get it to stay in 'standby mode'.
I started a thread on this exact same issue, but have had no joy up until now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462376
Any help or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Mav.

dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.

Where can one find these settings? I have looked high and low!
***Doh! Found them... HD Tweak is my friend!***

ruffruff said:
dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.
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I also have iTech BlueWhatEver and it works better, but still ones a few minutes sound skips
Also how to prevent phone from waking up from standby when I press pause/ff/rew button? Because it's ****ing annoying, I have to manually turn phone back off, so avcrp is totally useless if I have to touch the phone.

I suggest you lower the bitrate to 44100. 48k is useless since your mp3 are in 44.1kHz and you will save some CPU, bandwith
Jointstereo = 0 is prefered for quality purposes.
Then the bitpool ... this is where it gets tricky because every headset have their own limitations.
When i use it with my sony ericsson HBH-IS800 I can go up to 48.
If I use another device I need to lower it to 40.
The "CPU" of you headset needs to be taken into account.
The touch HD have no difficulties encoding SBC in realtime in high bitrate, the issue comes from the headset itself not able to decode SBC fast enough according to the bitpool you chose.
So there's nothing you can do except trying another BT Stack (that can have better SBC encoding algorithm) or changing you A2DP headset.

AD2P Audio

Any of you using the Desire HD with a BT Stereo Radio and/or stereo headset. The sound quality sounds really bad to me. I had the same thing on my HD2 @ default settings, but fixed that by changing the linespeed in registry. (bitpool on older WM phones)
Have been googling and can't find anything of the sort for Android. Is there a way to fix the audio quality?
My brother has the SE Xperia X10 and it has way better AD2P audio quality, even though it's still android 1.6. So it's not an Android bug, but rather a driver/setting somewhere.
Also the range the BT has is really small, I have a Logitech Pure-Fi Mobile speaker, which connects through BT AD2P, the quality is lower then on my HD2 (after tweaking) and the range is only 5-7m, while the HD2 managed to have skipless playback and higher quality at over 15-20m...
Apart from this I'm really loving the phone . And my car radio has full support for the other BT features. Like skipping tracks (in Spotify) and dialing numbers via the address book on my car radio instead of on my phone. And see who's calling on my radio's display.

danielpetrovic said:
Any of you using the Desire HD with a BT Stereo Radio and/or stereo headset. The sound quality sounds really bad to me. I had the same thing on my HD2 @ default settings, but fixed that by changing the linespeed in registry. (bitpool on older WM phones)
Have been googling and can't find anything of the sort for Android. Is there a way to fix the audio quality?
My brother has the SE Xperia X10 and it has way better AD2P audio quality, even though it's still android 1.6. So it's not an Android bug, but rather a driver/setting somewhere.
Also the range the BT has is really small, I have a Logitech Pure-Fi Mobile speaker, which connects through BT AD2P, the quality is lower then on my HD2 (after tweaking) and the range is only 5-7m, while the HD2 managed to have skipless playback and higher quality at over 15-20m...
Apart from this I'm really loving the phone . And my car radio has full support for the other BT features. Like skipping tracks (in Spotify) and dialing numbers via the address book on my car radio instead of on my phone. And see who's calling on my radio's display.
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Hi there, I'm really interested in that too. Would you say it's just a slight problem of the sound quality or is it merely unusable?

If you use Bluetooth headset you can forgive about good music quality. that's all
if you need good quality audio in bluetooth, buy this:
http://store.sleek-audio.com/earphones/sa1-in-ear-earphones-1.html

Demiourgos said:
If you use Bluetooth headset you can forgive about good music quality. that's all
if you need good quality audio in bluetooth, buy this:
http://store.sleek-audio.com/earphones/sa1-in-ear-earphones-1.html
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Won't really help at all, as I need to connect it to my car audio.
ramteid3 said:
Hi there, I'm really interested in that too. Would you say it's just a slight problem of the sound quality or is it merely unusable?
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You can compare the quality with 96Kbps MP3 which is really bad imho, but still usable. It's about the same on many phones though, allmost all are set to max 31 bitpool... But with windows mobile it was an easy fix.

As the source code is out, I hope the ROM builders can soon find a way to fix this.

Hi
I use a pair of plantronics 590e headphones over A2DP and the quality is brilliant! I have not changed a thing in the setup.
I wont play anything lower than 192kbs (most of my mp3 are 320kps) as i am a real fussy git when i comes to audio.
I have used the standard music player and tunewiki and both are perfect!
Are you atchaly using the A2DP or standard mic and mono sound protcal for calls?
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My MM200 Sennheiser work flawless. Music is rich and crisp!

You won't know the difference if you haven't heard the difference between bitpool 31 and bitpool 58, it's like night and day to me. Even 256kbps MP3 sounds bad to me tho.
Tried different audio files and it's not spotify causing it. As my brother is also plaything through spotify at HQ settings (which is 160Kbps OGG, comparable with 320+ Kbps MP3) ...
Eagerly waiting for an AD2P fix for android.

When I have my HD playing music through my Car's Bluetooth the quality is also pretty poor.
For some reason I can't choose any of the EQ settings? If I could just try and add some treble I think I could put up with it!

Just tried playing music via bluetooth to my sony head unit in the car and it became so choppy it was painful to even try to listen to it.
Great phone but really disappointed that there is a problem like this as one of the main uses of my phone is for audio in the car.

I use a Sony Ericsson mw600 and the quality is not good. The same headset with my sisters itouch and it sounds great. Is this a hardware or a software issue?
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You must be careful with the mw600 that it connects in the correct mode. As headphones NOT headset for music. If you get it wrong it will sound awful. You can check by tapping the Mic during playback, if you can hear it through the headphones you have it set up wrong

Endr1 said:
My MM200 Sennheiser work flawless. Music is rich and crisp!
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i had exact earphone, but it's just awful. first of all; htc doesn't make me choose any sound enhancements, other thing is, my 320kbps musics aren't different from 96 at all.
ps. i am an audiophile.

Imanaged to find my old iTech BlueBand headset yesterday and gave that a go. Sound quality was loud and clear and well balanced.
Shame about the delay though - it's worse than I'm used to. Video is pointless as the lag on the audio is far too much to be bearable.

Samsung S8 Crackling Bluetooth audio and Bluetooth Codecs

Hi Guys.
I've seen a number of posts on this subject so here's my story and my experience thus far.
I've been using an iPhone 7 since it came out. I've been very happy playing music in my car (Fiesta with SYNC2 system) all this time. My significant other has been using an S8 for some time, and her music always sounded 'crackly' (for lack of a better word) in the car. I thought this was just her Spotify or something.
2 Days ago I bought my own S8 and I had exactly the same issue.
Now from some research I've been able to deduce that this is down to the Bluetooth Codec the phone uses. I changed mine to aptX yesterday and the music quality was great. Didn't sound like a 200KB MP3 downloaded in the early 2000's anymore.
However...
Last night I had to reboot my phone for reasons, and the developer options reset completely, which I believe is normal behavior. But now I can't set my Bluetooth Codec anymore? I change it, the moment I close the menu, it reverts back to SBC. I tried this with Bluetooth off, Bluetooth on and not connected, Bluetooth on and connected, no joy. It keeps reverting. Same goes for all the other Bluetooth settings (i.e bitrate).
So gentleman I ask you humbly, wtf? Why does the settings not stick and is this normal behavior? Is there a way I can force it to use AAC or aptX once more? I really have come to enjoy this phone but playing music in my car is a very very big factor and since AUX and USB (can't seem to play Apple Music/Google Music via USB) isn't an option, I'm stuck with Bluetooth.
Thanks in advance,

Have you made sure dual audio is disabled???
If not, go to Bluetooth, turn it on, hit the tripple dots in the top right and tap on "Dual Audio"
Make sure it's off and now try changing to AptX or whatever codec works best for you.
Disable / re-enable Buetooth and see if it sticks. (Try rebooting too)
Also, Bluetooth codecs will automatically change if the device you're connecting to doesn't support your choice of codec.
Keep me posted

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Have you made sure dual audio is disabled???
If not, go to Bluetooth, turn it on, hit the tripple dots in the top right and tap on "Dual Audio"
Make sure it's off and now try changing to AptX or whatever codec works best for you.
Disable / re-enable Buetooth and see if it sticks. (Try rebooting too)
Also, Bluetooth codecs will automatically change if the device you're connecting to doesn't support your choice of codec.
Keep me posted
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Hi Corey,
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the above didn't work Dual audio was disabled, I enabled it and disabled it again. I tried changing the codec and bit rate but the result is the same, the moment I close the menu or turn on Bluetooth, it reverts back to SBC and Best Effort bitrate. I should mention that when I turn on the Bluetooth, it doesn't connect to anything, the only paired device at this point is my car.
Interestingly enough, if I don't close the menu but just hit the middle button, the settings will stay as is and the audio is great. What I haven't tried yet is closing the menu after a 'good' connection is made to the car. It may be that the setting sticks but the menu says otherwise. But I can definitely confirm that if I close the menu and then connect, the audio is garbage.
As for the compatibility of the car's Bluetooth, well it's a Ford SYNC2 system which from what I can see is actually quite basic. I am starting to this the problem isn't as much the codec, but rather the bitrate at which the phone is playing/sending music across the Bluetooth.

dxcza said:
Hi Corey,
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the above didn't work Dual audio was disabled, I enabled it and disabled it again. I tried changing the codec and bit rate but the result is the same, the moment I close the menu or turn on Bluetooth, it reverts back to SBC and Best Effort bitrate. I should mention that when I turn on the Bluetooth, it doesn't connect to anything, the only paired device at this point is my car.
Interestingly enough, if I don't close the menu but just hit the middle button, the settings will stay as is and the audio is great. What I haven't tried yet is closing the menu after a 'good' connection is made to the car. It may be that the setting sticks but the menu says otherwise. But I can definitely confirm that if I close the menu and then connect, the audio is garbage.
As for the compatibility of the car's Bluetooth, well it's a Ford SYNC2 system which from what I can see is actually quite basic. I am starting to this the problem isn't as much the codec, but rather the bitrate at which the phone is playing/sending music across the Bluetooth.
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I'm not gonna' lie, I'm not very impressed by the Bluetooth on the S8... or Bluetooth in general.
It's lousy most of the time, mine always distorts and especially around emergency vehicles... (Could be interference from their coms???)
If possible, just stick to good 'ol copper wire
I can't imagine wireless audio not ever being interfered with and will always stay wired.
Also, try a music app called Poweramp.
It has many settings involving latency etc. It has a trial for 2 weeks and is worth EVERY penny if you decide to buy IMHO.
Try the build version first, if that doesn't have settings that you need, try the alpha version.
It has lots of latency settings etc
I'm guessing higher latency = better results as it has more time to be pushed over BT before the sound is reproduced.
I'm probably wrong though.
Can't beat lots of settings tho aye.

CoreyOS said:
I'm not gonna' lie, I'm not very impressed by the Bluetooth on the S8... or Bluetooth in general.
It's lousy most of the time, mine always distorts and especially around emergency vehicles... (Could be interference from their coms???)
If possible, just stick to good 'ol copper wire
I can't imagine wireless audio not ever being interfered with and will always stay wired.
Also, try a music app called Poweramp.
It has many settings involving latency etc. It has a trial for 2 weeks and is worth EVERY penny if you decide to buy IMHO.
Try the build version first, if that doesn't have settings that you need, try the alpha version.
It has lots of latency settings etc
I'm guessing higher latency = better results as it has more time to be pushed over BT before the sound is reproduced.
I'm probably wrong though.
Can't beat lots of settings tho aye.
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Morning Corey,
Yeah so my situation at the moment is to have my old iPhone in the car at all times as a glorified bluetooth player. I've also gone out and bought an auxiliary cable for when the iPhone's battery dies on me (happens more often than one would think). And to have a charger for the iPhone, charger for the Samsung and aux cable for the Samsung all plugged in becomes really messy.
It must be something to do with the Bluetooth 5 feature. I don't know what version the iPhone is (cba to check) but it works like a dream.
Wish we had some form of backwards compatibility or a feature to force an older version with Samsung. Just sucks buying a phone which is really not cheap in ZA just to have the music sound like a 300kb MP3 played on Winamp with the treble bars turned up all the way.
I'll try out the app you suggested mate, thanks!

dxcza said:
Morning Corey,
Yeah so my situation at the moment is to have my old iPhone in the car at all times as a glorified bluetooth player. I've also gone out and bought an auxiliary cable for when the iPhone's battery dies on me (happens more often than one would think). And to have a charger for the iPhone, charger for the Samsung and aux cable for the Samsung all plugged in becomes really messy.
It must be something to do with the Bluetooth 5 feature. I don't know what version the iPhone is (cba to check) but it works like a dream.
Wish we had some form of backwards compatibility or a feature to force an older version with Samsung. Just sucks buying a phone which is really not cheap in ZA just to have the music sound like a 300kb MP3 played on Winamp with the treble bars turned up all the way.
I'll try out the app you suggested mate, thanks!
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No worries and if you are referring to a USB cigarette lighter charger/USB charger then try the multi-cables.
Try one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Poweradd-L...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=59QBSADVWM0NKGZGTQ4K

sorry to drag up an old thread, i have the same problem ( sync2 too) and it is same issues. I have noticed that even though its bad its tolerable bad. then i add my samsung watch and becomes awful.
did you ever figure the issue out? i feel its the sync2 causing some kind of problem

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sorry to drag up an old thread, i have the same problem ( sync2 too) and it is same issues. I have noticed that even though its bad its tolerable bad. then i add my samsung watch and becomes awful.
did you ever figure the issue out? i feel its the sync2 causing some kind of problem
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I dont know yet I have been using my s8 and bluetooth audio for watch speakers controllers everything and today for the first time my speaker was crackling under bluetooth
I will most def be trying to recreate this and figure it out cause it was very iratating...