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Wow, talk about confusing, the A7 is a whole new world to me.
I've had computers for years, currently I have two running XP & 7, plus I have two laptops running XP & 7. I understand a lot when it comes to computers, but the A7 is so different.
I've downloaded & printed the User Manual and I have read it several times. I've read numerous posts on this forum and now I'm confused. I feel so dumb. Too many words that I don't understand. I want to learn everything I can about running every aspect of this tablet, but it's like just as I learn one thing, the next time it doesn't work that way.
I need more reading material. Whether it be links to posts, books to read, anything to help me understand what I am doing. I make notes of things I have read so that I will remember what to do next time. Post something to help me, PM me or even email me.
I will be so greatfull for any help given.
Thank you
The user manual you can download on elocity's site is useless because there is a lot of things that were never edited out to match the actual release version of the tablet.
As far as computer knowledge and relating it to the a7 or android in general, windows knowledge will not get you very far. A good working knowledge of Unix/Linux will give you a much better idea of what's going on behind the scenes since android is based on Linux (loosely, in my opinion) but still functions very similarly.
If you have any programming or web design experience, I would recommend downloading the android sdk and do some playing around with simple programs. Also with the sdk you can make a virtual android device to monkey around with without fear of messing up your new $300 toy I use eclipse as my development environment in Linux, not sure what a good windows alternative would be, but the structure of an android app is pretty easy to follow. There are example programs and source available on the android developer site developer.android.com if I remember correctly (same place to get the sdk). And the language itself tends to be pretty similar to writing a Java app.
I've probably missed the mark completely on the information you were trying to find, but if you are anything like me, you'll find hours (years if it gets you going down the Linux/Unix path lol) of obsession with just this info.
Hopefully it gets you on the opensource band wagon (the reason I love Linux/Android)
Wow...where to start? Well, you got that you turn it on and slide the lock to the dot to unlock. Then you are in a "home page". There are 5 of them. there are dots at the top of the screen showing which home page ur on. Usually the center one. Touch the screen and slide one way or the other to move the home pages.
If you touch the square whitish pad at the right of the screen with a bunch of darker squares in it, it takes you to your apps - the programs that do what you want.
If you touch an app it runs. Touch the return arrow just to the right of the screen to close the app and go back. It always takes u back.
You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
The home button at the right side of the screen always takes you to the center home page. - It DOES NOT close the app you have open at the moment.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
Based on Linux ... now I understand why this is confusing to me. I've never worked with it before, but I understand from fellow users, they like it better than Windows OS.
I've never done any programming or web design, but maybe it's not too late to learn something new.
I thank both of you for your info and appreciate everything you have said.
mrpete2u I really appreciated the details of your instructions. I know I'm a dummy at this, and I'm sure there are more of you guys out there to help.
Thanks
mrpete2u said:
You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
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Another newbie jumping in....and trying to figure this out. To "root" the machine do I need to update the firmware from the elocity site or can I jump to Dexters right away. If so, where do I find that?
Thanks for your advice.
your a7 is rooted already with dexters mod or elocity firmware.
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
koalaw said:
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
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You are one version in the rear, version now is 2.0133, most member her are running Dexter Mod 1.41 include myself an entirely different beast, stock Roman won't let me load Asphalt5 game so Dexter it is...A7 come from factor rooted Don't think any other tablet come out already root...
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
koalaw said:
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
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look here for Dexter mod forget about the stock rom ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042
I have now updated to 2.0.0133
Now I need to figure out how to get the market icon so I can start looking for more apps & games. Tried downloading earlier and it keeps telling me that I have downloaded to my phone? I don't have a fancy phone to download to.
Here I am again confused, but what's new about that!!
There is a thread in the device section on adding market to stock rom.
Or you could just run elocitymod by Dexter.
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
koalaw said:
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
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Yes, yes you are lol
For all intents and purposes (as far as Google is concerned at least) your tablet is a phone.
Install market enabler on the a7 and fake a cell provider. The a7 should show up on the Google market website after that.
You didn't install dextermod and then apply eLocity update over it did you? Just want to be sure.
Your laughing at me .... that's ok ... right now I'm so new at this, I really don't care, in fact I am laughing at myself for being so dumb.
I went to dexter's site and downloaded a file called elocitymod1.41 and renamed it to update.zip and that is what I installed.
OK I will install market enabler
Thank you again for helping this dummy .... LOL
From the perceived tone of the post prior to my last one, I thought you were already at the laughing stage. I thought I was just laughing along, sorry for the mix up.
Sounds like you are doing everything right. I just wanted to make sure that we were dealing with a clean install of elocitymod, and not something mixed together by trying to ally another update on top of it.
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
koalaw said:
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
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Why not just use market from the tablet? I wouldn't stress so much about trying to get it to work and remotely install from the web site.
Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
koalaw said:
Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
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So are you hitting the Market icon (opening the Market app) or are you trying to open http://market.android.com/ in the web browser?
I have a couple of quick questions. Firgive if already asked.
Why are the markets so different? Many of the appa I use on my phone are not there. For instamce I can't find words with friends. I did some google searching but could not fine the apk.. any help with that, I would be thankful.
I like the tablet just lots to get use to.
If I wanted to read about rooting this device what's the best site? Instructions. The only reason I would want to root is to get the real market ..
Sometimes it is because the apps aren't compatible. Other times the reason is hard to figure, because they work fine as they are.
One thing that you might try is to grab the app (.apk) from your phone and move it using something like a Dropbox app, or a simple file transfer through your pc would work too.
first things first. I need to find the apk. Do you happen to know where i might find it? There must be a repo of some sort somewhere?
I relly like the device tho. Seems a little disorganized ... maybe thats true of android as a whlole. Not Android s fault but manufacturers not sticking to the spec?
Anyway. Thanks for the help
if your phone rooted, u can install the app and grab pk from /data/app
could think of a few ways
Most devs have a web page for their product out there somewhere - a lot of them will offer the .apk for you to download there. You can also try browsing the android market via web browser or trying one of the many external markets available (Appbrain/Amazon are great!)
Hope that helps.
Hmm... I have words with friends, and it coordinates with my account on my Droid, up to date... I have no advice, but wanted to say it works great.. was on the market for the tablet for Me... still is I just checked.
I find the web version of android market to be wayyyy better than the app...
I currently have Cyanogen7 on my nook color and it looks amazing so far, but I have a few questions that will ultimately decide whether I keep it rooted or revert it back to normal.
1.) How do I read all my books? I downloaded the Nook for Android app and I see how to read all the books I downloaded but I don't know how I can read the books that I have from my previous e-book collection that I have on my computer. I don't even know how to connect the nook to my computer because the cord is plugged in but nothing is showing on my computer. This is the most important question for me because I have about 500 books that I didn't get from BN and if I can't read those then this is worthless to me. I'm sure there's a way I just don't know how.
2.) How do I put Gameboy and NES emulators/ROMs on it? Can I put the ones off of my computer on there or do I have to download them off the market.
I guess the biggest thing for me is not knowing how to make it show up on my computer. If you can help me with that then that'd be great. Thanks!
Edit: If I have to go back to nooter then that's fine, because with that I still have all the stock BN apps and stuff like that, but if there's a way to do that on the Cyanogen then that'd be awesome. Again, thanks.
Not sure about the books, but to connect to computer, after you plug it in, a notification will come up in the bar, when you swipe up it will say "USB connected" or something to that effect. if you press on that, a screen will come up that allows you to mount it.
You will need to download Android specific emulators, but the same roms that work on your computer should work in an android nes/snes emulator.
EDIT: reread your post. If you mount the SD card through the usb cable, you should be able to put your ebooks somewhere and read them with an e-reader, i don't know if the nook app will do it, but i use alkido for all of mine.
I found how to hook it up right after I posted, but thanks anyways. So you use a different app for reading? Is it free and does it support ePub? And I'll have to look into emulators a little more when I get home. But do you know if I'll have to pay for them? I'd rather not but don't mind dishing out 5-10 bucks for two emulators if I can at least put my own roms on it.
I'm really excited about all the possibilities with my nook being rooted now but I still love to read and that is my primary concern ATM.
frownifdown said:
I found how to hook it up right after I posted, but thanks anyways. So you use a different app for reading? Is it free and does it support ePub? And I'll have to look into emulators a little more when I get home. But do you know if I'll have to pay for them? I'd rather not but don't mind dishing out 5-10 bucks for two emulators if I can at least put my own roms on it.
I'm really excited about all the possibilities with my nook being rooted now but I still love to read and that is my primary concern ATM.
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Alkido is a neat e-reader app, its free and has a nice UI, it does accept e-pubs.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aldiko.android
As for the emulators, some guy had a bunch of decent emulators, that were recently pulled from the market, he violated the GPL and put a bunch of open source emulators in a java casing and sold them as his own. You may be able to find them around the place somewhere.
frownifdown said:
I found how to hook it up right after I posted, but thanks anyways. So you use a different app for reading? Is it free and does it support ePub? And I'll have to look into emulators a little more when I get home. But do you know if I'll have to pay for them? I'd rather not but don't mind dishing out 5-10 bucks for two emulators if I can at least put my own roms on it.
I'm really excited about all the possibilities with my nook being rooted now but I still love to read and that is my primary concern ATM.
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If u love to read like me ...u might want cool reader as well as it supports HTML mobi PDf....also when i downloaded the nook app it automatically synched all my books to the app once I signed in with my b&n account...I even still get my magizines...I run on cm7 as well...also make sure to buy root explorer off the market...you can use it to access anything u have in the emmc storage (books u have on nook...they are still there...but like I said they already synced with the market app...at least that's how it all worked for me.....enjoy cm7... its awesome...I never looked back to stock and I'm a reader.(.PSu now have a kindle as well!!)...
Mainly, an answer to your emulator question.
Everyone seems to have addressed the usb problem. All you have to do is pull up the notification bar and turn on usb storage. From there you could just transfer your book files onto the nook (I'm assuming your books are on your computer). For the emulators, yonghz has amazing apps that recently got pulled from the market. He transferred them over to SlideMe.com. I can't post links yet but just go to google and type in "slideme yonghz" and the first link will be the link you want. I'm using Snesoid right now and it works great!
hi there
i just bought a fire runing on 6.2.2
i cannot download anything as i dont have a us credit card
anyone can teach me how????
thanks
Get a US credit card and you don't have a problem. The Kindle Fire is supported/distributed for the US only right now.
You can use it other places but you have to go through hoops to use it for media etc... there are other threads you can find out that information from.
Search is your friend...
you actually can download books and magazines using a canadian credit card but you need a USA address
also, you can download ANY app on the android market by going to:
goodereader .c0m/apps on your kindle fire browser
that way you can download apps from the google marketplace without having the market on your actual ereader!
its pretty smart
You may be able to get a US prepay card, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work. Try contacting Amazon support too. You never know what they'll say...
Guyz,
I joined this forum a couple days ago. As an intro, I’ve been building and maintaining desktop computers since 1997 for self and family, and my wife’s salon and spa business website with old Frontpage. My main computer is a water-cooled Intel 6600 (I think) go stepping cpu and GTX 8800 vid card, six bay case, 800 watt PSU, dual boot with two removable drive bays, one for main drive and one for game drive, upgraded in 2008 when I was heavy into gaming City of Heroes. Built it for fun. Overclocked and all that jazz. I have a laptop but haven’t gone into it yet.
I got my first smartphone a year ago, Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. With only 8gb of storage It’s useless for as app krazy as I need to be and they are just useful apps like banking, shopping ect, no gaming. I was luving it till I ran out of room even with a 64gb SD card! I found you can’t move very much to the card and I don’t do photos and video much at all so I was very disappointed to say the least. The Samsung rep at Best Buy where I got the phone told me that the local Verizon store should have never put me in the phone to begin with as it’s considered a prepaid. My luck! Some of the sales peeps at the Verizon store are a joke. The dood wanted to wipe my phone until I stopped him. Like that was going to solve something! I was pissed he didn’t know any more than that about the phones he was selling! I went home looking to root the dang thing, hehe. So that’s what brought me here to begin with. I managed to install SKD and did a backup of the phone via Titanium Backup’s site instructions. I bought the pro version but it’s almost useless unless the phone is rooted (sweet app though from what I’ve seen). I found a root for it on this forum but stopped messing with it when I decided to go with the S7. I’d have to have help with the instructions anyway. The posters talked in advanced terms that I didn’t understand so…..
I gave the phone to my wife with Hangouts installed. We moved our landline to Google Voice a year or more ago so with it she can dial using it with wifi. Pretty kewl. There’s lots of Time Warner and Verizon hotspots around so she could use it pretty well where we live. Now trying to wean her off the little flip-phone, hehe. Still have to root it down the road to be useful though.
I went to a Samsung noob class at Best Buy and found that they had the S7 for $100 bucks for a two year contract and thought the 32gb would be plenty with my SD card. Wrong! Even my new S7 has a third of the 32gb space taken up with bloat and what few apps I’ve installed about 4, and I haven’t even installed about 10 or more apps I want. I’ve had it since Apr 1 and I need to root it already, dang! I know, no root available yet. Besides, I want to use the phone for a little longer to make sure it works well while still under warranty.
Now for my noob questions….and I did my homework as best I could. I’ve read all three pages of the threads on this forum looking for answers and can’t find them (I learned lots of other stuff while reading them so thanks guys for that). I’ve looked all over Google search too and just can’t put my finger on the issue.
I want to install apps directly onto my SD card and am looking for a way to do it. I was following a video on YouTube to install apps directly to my SD card via SDB. The video is titled “How to install Android Apps onto SD Card By Default” but the command “adb shell pm set-install-location 2” resulted in a Java error: “java-lang SecurityException: Package Android does not belong to 2000”. (much cussing followed)
Is this really a good, workable method or should I look in another direction? How do you guyz handle this situation?
Off Topic: Anyone using the Ceton 6 channel cablecard and extender system? I’m looking at that to get rid of these two Time Warner DVRs and haven’t quite figured out how to get the signal to older CRT TVs with an Xbox 360 as extender.
Much appreciation for your time looking at this harangue.
Mac Cauley said:
Guyz,
I joined this forum a couple days ago. As an intro, I’ve been building and maintaining desktop computers since 1997 for self and family, and my wife’s salon and spa business website with old Frontpage. My main computer is a water-cooled Intel 6600 (I think) go stepping cpu and GTX 8800 vid card, six bay case, 800 watt PSU, dual boot with two removable drive bays, one for main drive and one for game drive, upgraded in 2008 when I was heavy into gaming City of Heroes. Built it for fun. Overclocked and all that jazz. I have a laptop but haven’t gone into it yet.
I got my first smartphone a year ago, Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. With only 8gb of storage It’s useless for as app krazy as I need to be and they are just useful apps like banking, shopping ect, no gaming. I was luving it till I ran out of room even with a 64gb SD card! I found you can’t move very much to the card and I don’t do photos and video much at all so I was very disappointed to say the least. The Samsung rep at Best Buy where I got the phone told me that the local Verizon store should have never put me in the phone to begin with as it’s considered a prepaid. My luck! Some of the sales peeps at the Verizon store are a joke. The dood wanted to wipe my phone until I stopped him. Like that was going to solve something! I was pissed he didn’t know any more than that about the phones he was selling! I went home looking to root the dang thing, hehe. So that’s what brought me here to begin with. I managed to install SKD and did a backup of the phone via Titanium Backup’s site instructions. I bought the pro version but it’s almost useless unless the phone is rooted (sweet app though from what I’ve seen). I found a root for it on this forum but stopped messing with it when I decided to go with the S7. I’d have to have help with the instructions anyway. The posters talked in advanced terms that I didn’t understand so…..
I gave the phone to my wife with Hangouts installed. We moved our landline to Google Voice a year or more ago so with it she can dial using it with wifi. Pretty kewl. There’s lots of Time Warner and Verizon hotspots around so she could use it pretty well where we live. Now trying to wean her off the little flip-phone, hehe. Still have to root it down the road to be useful though.
I went to a Samsung noob class at Best Buy and found that they had the S7 for $100 bucks for a two year contract and thought the 32gb would be plenty with my SD card. Wrong! Even my new S7 has a third of the 32gb space taken up with bloat and what few apps I’ve installed about 4, and I haven’t even installed about 10 or more apps I want. I’ve had it since Apr 1 and I need to root it already, dang! I know, no root available yet. Besides, I want to use the phone for a little longer to make sure it works well while still under warranty.
Now for my noob questions….and I did my homework as best I could. I’ve read all three pages of the threads on this forum looking for answers and can’t find them (I learned lots of other stuff while reading them so thanks guys for that). I’ve looked all over Google search too and just can’t put my finger on the issue.
I want to install apps directly onto my SD card and am looking for a way to do it. I was following a video on YouTube to install apps directly to my SD card via SDB. The video is titled “How to install Android Apps onto SD Card By Default” but the command “adb shell pm set-install-location 2” resulted in a Java error: “java-lang SecurityException: Package Android does not belong to 2000”. (much cussing followed)
Is this really a good, workable method or should I look in another direction? How do you guyz handle this situation?
Off Topic: Anyone using the Ceton 6 channel cablecard and extender system? I’m looking at that to get rid of these two Time Warner DVRs and haven’t quite figured out how to get the signal to older CRT TVs with an Xbox 360 as extender.
Much appreciation for your time looking at this harangue.
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Not to sound foolish, but just covering the bases....Are you aware you can move the apps the SD card from the system itself?
From your settings Select:
Applications > Application Aanager > select the app you downloaded. It'll show you the "Application info".
From there select "Storage", it'll show where it is stored (internal or SD card).
If it can me moved press "Change", then the pop-up comes up with "Change storage location" for "Internal" or "SD card", sounds like you'd want SD card.
It will show an "Export" screen, then you hit "Move" at the bottom.
The "Transfer" screen shows up, when it is done it'll show the the app page info page again listing "Storage" and show where you moved the app too.
That should help free up some space.
If that's not what you're looking for, then you could try the adoptable storage option, where it lets you use part/all of your sdcard for use as actual internal storage...but there's caveats to that...like you won't be able to use the card outside of the device....you really should read up on it before you attempt it for sure.. Though, I'd recommend trying the first suggestion to see if it suits your needs before moving on to this:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
hope that helps.
I had already tried the first suggestion. I was able to move maybe five apps to SD. I also found a few videos on adoptable storage but the command like location2 didn't work. Some of those guys you can't understand what the heck they're saying, hehe. I'll have to try it again. I also used Debloater and didn't find even one app that I hadn't already disabled in Applications. There were 21 disabled before I did anything, probably by Verizon. Besides, there's not too much bloat on my Verizon. I had disabled nine apps myself so not too bad.
One problem I wish I could solve off topic is the Play Store apps I don't want keep showing up. One is Google Talkback. I can't find the app on my phone anyway and can't find anything on the net to get rid of it or hide it. Any suggestions on this issue? To this point almost half of my system storage is used. All my photos and documents have been sent to SD and then to Google Drive.
Mac Cauley said:
I had already tried the first suggestion. I was able to move maybe five apps to SD. I also found a few videos on adoptable storage but the command like location2 didn't work. Some of those guys you can't understand what the heck they're saying, hehe. I'll have to try it again. I also used Debloater and didn't find even one app that I hadn't already disabled in Applications. There were 21 disabled before I did anything, probably by Verizon. Besides, there's not too much bloat on my Verizon. I had disabled nine apps myself so not too bad.
One problem I wish I could solve off topic is the Play Store apps I don't want keep showing up. One is Google Talkback. I can't find the app on my phone anyway and can't find anything on the net to get rid of it or hide it. Any suggestions on this issue? To this point almost half of my system storage is used. All my photos and documents have been sent to SD and then to Google Drive.
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probably old news, but thought I'd follow up, just in case....
The Talk back app is there, you just have to toggle system apps, otherwise it won't show.
Check out the screenshots attached....you'll find talkback in "Applications Manager" > "More" (top right) > "Show system apps".
Scroll down and you'll see it. From there, you can press on it and enable/disable at will.