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Each day i have the XOOM my disappointment grows a little. (not looking for fights, just giving my opinion)
Some of my disappointments are:
1) No USB charging (Yes, I am kicking myself for not noticing this info leaked a coupe days early when the manual came out online) But just for a standard design consistency Motorola really makes no sense using yet another plug. It feels like a pointless attempt to tack on a new car charger or other accessories.
2) The power button. Just not getting used to it at all, and when the tablet is sitting flat on a table and i want to power it up it just gets very annoying having to stop and lift it to unlock. I know the button placement "kinda" (being nice) works naturally if your holding it with two hands at the time you want to unlock, but it's just another example of no design consistency across products.
***These first two are mainly gripes that just don't understand how a company of engineers make some inherently bad design choices. I could live with these minor annoyance probably even though they just keep sticking their ugly head up. The following two points are where I may have to use my return policy***
3)Tegra 2 can't play **** for HD video. I guess this was public information, but it's pretty sad that this chip that will be powering many devices this year can't handle HD video worth a damn. So kind of kicking myself for not catching this prior. Really though, dual core and their new GPU and they can't handle some standard video profiles that are years old, just sad. I don't care flash was delayed, but it makes me wonder if this hardware accelerated flash is even worth waiting for over the last when the hardware cant handle these basic things.
4)Sluggish...... Clearly Honeycomb wasn't ready yet, at least for dual core tablets. No doubt just rushing to get a product out to market before the next round of competition. Not trying to flame anything here, but my iPad which I was never fond of just cause iOS is last years tech 1ghz and smoother 10 out of 10 times over this XOOM tablet with Honeycomb which is extra insulting when you add in it's 256 ram. From lagging in keyboard input, other lags , not crisp smooth animations, and other ridiculous slow stuttering behavior such as MP3 playback hiccuping cause you want to load up something as simple as a book to read. Gmail force closing gets old too, but that's a simple app update (I only have honeycomb apps and stock apps, so don't try the crap line "well they prolly have tons of crap not for the device installed"). It just wasn't ready and feel poorly rush out to sell. I know an update will come along to clean this up (looking forward to slow rollouts from carriers yay haha) hopefully something like froyo was for phones. Just still really saddening with its specs it performs horribly.
So that's where I am at. You can use the whole "early adopter" line if you want to try and make yourself feel better, but that's really stretching. I see the great potential in Android on tablets and am very excited for it. Things such as lack of apps I can live with since we know apps will come. No early sdk time just comes from the whole rushing this product anyway I am happy I have another 10 days or so to decide if I should just return it and wait for the other manufacturers tablets which will obviously have minor smarter hardware design and by that point maybe honeycomb will be updated once or twice to make performance on par with single core devices. Even with that I am still not very optimistic with the whole Tegra 2 and HD video though. Just a lot of money on a device that isn't delivering on the most basic of expectations.... yet.
I believe Tegra 2 and HD video is a software problem caused by Honeycomb. nVidia showed at CES that Tegra2 can play HD video, but the Xoom doesn't have right codecs and is sluggish at the moment, but I think an update is coming for that soon. Only speculation on my part though.
redbullcat said:
I believe Tegra 2 and HD video is a software problem caused by Honeycomb. nVidia showed at CES that Tegra2 can play HD video, but the Xoom doesn't have right codecs and is sluggish at the moment, but I think an update is coming for that soon. Only speculation on my part though.
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I really hope so... just keep reading the same information about tegra 2 and HD though so it's discouraging i haven't read any confirming it would be a simple update... we will just have to wait and see
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I really hope so... just keep reading the same information about tegra 2 and HD though so it's discouraging i haven't read any confirming it would be a simple update... we will just have to wait and see
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Let's hope so
Download "no lock" from the market. It will enable you to unlock the xoom with volume buttons as well. I agree the placement of the power button is ridiculous, but this helps out alot.
Hank
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Each day i have the XOOM my disappointment grows a little. Some of my disappointments are:
1) No USB charging (Yes, I am kicking myself for not noticing this info leaked a coupe days early when the manual came out online) But just for a standard design consistency Motorola really makes no sense using yet another plug.
You totally missed the point here, Motorola HAD to use a different plug. The Xoom requires more than the 5V that power over USB allows. Also, the Motorola adapter can supply up to 16.5W, versus the maximum 9.45W allowed in the USB Charging standard, allowing the Xoom to charge in a fraction of the time that would normally be required. I was stunned at how fast it charged. Motorola claims it can fully charge from empty in under 3hrs. That's fast for a battery this size
2) The power button. Just not getting used to it at all, and when the tablet is sitting flat on a table and i want to power it up it just gets very annoying having to stop and lift it to unlock. I know the button placement "kinda" (being nice) works naturally if your holding it with two hands at the time you want to unlock, but it's just another example of no design consistency across products.
***These first two are mainly gripes that just don't understand how a company of engineers make some inherently bad design choices. I could live with these minor annoyance probably even though they just keep sticking their ugly head up. The following two points are where I may have to use my return policy***
When I pick up a tablet, I pick it up with two hands, both on the sides. When I do so, the power button is positioned perfectly under my index finger. If it was on the top or sides, you would have to move your hands into awkward positions to hit the switch (iPAD). Yes the top mounted button is better for when the device is sitting flat, but you can't have it both ways. I like the Moto solution better.
4)Sluggish...... Clearly Honeycomb wasn't ready yet, at least for dual core tablets. No doubt just rushing to get a product out to market before the next round of competition. Not trying to flame anything here, but my iPad which I was never fond of just cause iOS is last years tech 1ghz and smoother 10 out of 10 times over this XOOM tablet with Honeycomb. From lagging in keyboard input, other lags , not crisp smooth animations, and other ridiculous slow stuttering behavior such as MP3 playback hiccuping cause you want to load up something as simple as a book to read. It just wasn't ready and feel poorly rush out to sell. I know an update will come along to clean this up (looking forward to slow rollouts from carriers yay haha) hopefully something like froyo was for phones. Just still really saddening with its specs it performs horribly.
I couldn't disagree with you more here. My Xoom is blazing fast, with almost no perceptible lag. I would suggest to you that what you are experiencing may be due to software that you are using. Either it doesn't like Honeycomb, or doesn't like Tegra. I guarantee within a couple weeks, most of the more popular apps will be optimized for Tegra/Honeycomb.
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Each day i have the XOOM my disappointment grows a little. Some of my disappointments are:
1) No USB charging (Yes, I am kicking myself for not noticing this info leaked a coupe days early when the manual came out online) But just for a standard design consistency Motorola really makes no sense using yet another plug.
You totally missed the point here, Motorola HAD to use a different plug. The Xoom requires more than the 5V that power over USB allows. Also, the Motorola adapter can supply significantly more current than the standard USB plug, allowing it to charge in a fraction of the time that would normally be required. I was stunned at how fast it charged. Motorola claims it can fully charge from empty in under 3hrs. That's fast for a battery this size
2) The power button. Just not getting used to it at all, and when the tablet is sitting flat on a table and i want to power it up it just gets very annoying having to stop and lift it to unlock. I know the button placement "kinda" (being nice) works naturally if your holding it with two hands at the time you want to unlock, but it's just another example of no design consistency across products.
***These first two are mainly gripes that just don't understand how a company of engineers make some inherently bad design choices. I could live with these minor annoyance probably even though they just keep sticking their ugly head up. The following two points are where I may have to use my return policy***
When I pick up a tablet, I pick it up with two hands, both on the sides. When I do so, the power button is positioned perfectly under my index finger. If it was on the top or sides, you would have to move your hands into awkward positions to hit the switch (iPAD). Yes the top mounted button is better for when the device is sitting flat, but you can't have it both ways. I like the Moto solution better.
4)Sluggish...... Clearly Honeycomb wasn't ready yet, at least for dual core tablets. No doubt just rushing to get a product out to market before the next round of competition. Not trying to flame anything here, but my iPad which I was never fond of just cause iOS is last years tech 1ghz and smoother 10 out of 10 times over this XOOM tablet with Honeycomb. From lagging in keyboard input, other lags , not crisp smooth animations, and other ridiculous slow stuttering behavior such as MP3 playback hiccuping cause you want to load up something as simple as a book to read. It just wasn't ready and feel poorly rush out to sell. I know an update will come along to clean this up (looking forward to slow rollouts from carriers yay haha) hopefully something like froyo was for phones. Just still really saddening with its specs it performs horribly.
I couldn't disagree with you more here. My Xoom is blazing fast, with almost no perceptible lag. I would suggest to you that what you are experiencing may be due to software that you are using, either it doesn't like honeycomb, or doesn't like Tegra. I guarantee within a couple weeks, most of the more popular apps will be optimized for Tegra/Honeycomb.
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Ya i edited because i knew that generic what apps your using line would come up. I am using stock apps and a couple honeycomb apps... nothing in a mix... it just lags, don't know what to tell you, just does
The power button, well it's personal preference, seems you would rather have power button on back of your phones too?
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Download "no lock" from the market. It will enable you to unlock the xoom with volume buttons as well. I agree the placement of the power button is ridiculous, but this helps out alot.
Hank
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Thanks, I'll check it out
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I believe Tegra 2 and HD video is a software problem caused by Honeycomb. nVidia showed at CES that Tegra2 can play HD video, but the Xoom doesn't have right codecs and is sluggish at the moment, but I think an update is coming for that soon. Only speculation on my part though.
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It's no better on froyo on the gtab or adam... but I believe that you're on the right track that it's software, but more of a driver problem than Android itself.
nVidia's sticking to their h.264 1080p main-profile in their "official" specs...
Beyond that: come one, the Tegra 2 tablets are just SO MUCH snappier than the cortex-a8, ARM11, and ARM9 tablets...
Back to video for a second: BEST by FAR video playback that I've seen on Android devices have been those with Telechips TCC89XX SoCs... ancient ARM11 CPU but they've got some kind of hw video encode/decode block awesomeness...
USB charging: not going to happen with the batts in most decent performing tablets. Just look at the voltage/current specs then look at USB specs. They'd've had to make a custom USB interface like B&N have with the Nookcolor to charge over USB. It's just easier to have a separate power port, and likely more robust in the long run.
Also, just random, am I the only one scared that the charging pin is so thin that I will accidentally snap it off one day?
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The power button, well it's personal preference, seems you would rather have power button on back of your phones too?
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No, because I don't hold a phone with two hands.
Imho, I agree with paradox that the tablet power button can be in a different location than phones and still make sense (given the two hand approach). I also agree with the OP that the could have found a better location for it...or frankly even have two different ones. I've been looking at third party cases for the ipad, and some of them fit 'fairly' well, expect of course, none of them have a hold in the back for the power button. Given the OEM moto portfolio case is my only option, I really not satisfied.
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Imho, I agree with paradox that the tablet power button can be in a different location than phones and still make sense (given the two hand approach). I also agree with the OP that the could have found a better location for it...or frankly even have two different ones. I've been looking at third party cases for the ipad, and some of them fit 'fairly' well, expect of course, none of them have a hold in the back for the power button. Given the OEM moto portfolio case is my only option, I really not satisfied.
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ya i know that it is kind of a natural placement, but i use by tablets with thenmlaying flat on a table and holding in my hands 50/50, so having to pick up to unlock it my annoyance
Not trying to argue either but I don't see any problems, my xoom definitely doesn't lag but I am rooted. The power button is in the perfect place if you ask me, I love the design and how its hidden.
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Thumb Keyboard
If the keyboard is lagging, try thumb keyboard. I haven't had any issues with it. Plus it has directional buttons to make it easier to go back in text
Nice review Jimmy
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Looks like I won't be getting one of these
USB charging is out of date for tablet for long time due to the high capacity of batteries. Just imaging charging netbook via USB? That is ridiculous.
I don't like the placement of the power button too.
While I was using XOOM, I had never felt any lagging.
Most of the OPs points are moot. The power button, is AWESOME. I am so used to my EVO where i have to hold the phone very hard to push that power button which is both in a stupid place, and hard to depress.
The lag I get so far is from apps not coded for 3.0 yet. I just make sure to force close them when I notice a slow down and I get my speed back. Every once in a while I hit a sluggish patch for about a minute that quickly clears up
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Nice review Jimmy
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Looks like I won't be getting one of these
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I don't think you will ever get a tab if that made your decision for you. Personally I've used almost every tab including my ipad and this device out performs them all by leaps and bounds. Ipad lags waaay harder then this device and I'm not even going to get into the nook or galaxy tab
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I don't think you will ever get a tab if that made your decision for you. Personally I've used almost every tab including my ipad and this device out performs them all by leaps and bounds. Ipad lags waaay harder then this device and I'm not even going to get into the nook or galaxy tab
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That is just untrue. The iPad's UI is smooth as silk. Now if you are talking about web browsing or something like that, the Xoom destroys it as it should. Take a look at the Notion Ink vs Xoom video posted on here. I have never seen an iPad or Galaxy Tab lag like the Xoom does in that video. Its obviously something that will be fixed, but just more evidence that Honeycomb is more like a work in progress at this point.
Edit: Oh yea, if you want a tab that solves at least some of the OP's gripes, look for one running a TI OMAP4430/OMAP4440 with Powervr SGX540 clocked at 300mhz. Destroys the Tegra 2 in benchmarks and will play ANY video you throw at it. As far as I know no tablet exists with this SoC in it, but we can hope. Its in the new Optimus 3d I think.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
First of all I'm sorry if you regard my thread as just filling up the general forum. But I wanted to counter my experience thus far with the TF to those that are bashing it.
I sold my ipad 1 to buy the TF
This OS is definitely in beta; however I'm impressed with how fluid everything is including menus and screen transitions and the Widgets that are available. I've had almost no issues other than some light bleed and a backlight bug.
Thumb keyboard is so awesome on here and I enjoy it much better than my ipad.
Gaming on this is a treat; there is something truly amazing about pulling a portable N64 or PSX out of my bag and gaming with a WiiMote. Not to mention FF1 with a gba emulator. This doesn't account for the android games available in the market either including monster madness and Riptide GP that I'm loving right now. Oh and the flashed based kongregate arcade with its 400+ flash games.
Browsing the web is beautiful; putting this beast in portrait and viewing a webpage is amazing. Browsing for something to buy on amazon or Google shopping is awesome when I can view such a long list of the products. Flash is something that I have unknowingly been missing and is now rediscovered with my Transformer.
I have experienced a few force closes and 1 or 2 restarts but my device is rooted and running a custom rom and kernel and clocked at 1.4ghz.
Right now I'm on graveyard shift at work; the work computer goes into a deep freeze at midnight so I can't use it and we have no wifi. Solution? Tether my TF to my Droid X and watch Hulu or megavideo which are both silky smooth and beautiful on this screen.
Ipads are good devices but this thing is an outstanding device.
I'm a happy owner.
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I've been patiently waiting until paychecks come in to be able to pick one of these lovelies up, teasing myself by reading here and there in the forums but I didn't realize I could connect a Wiimote as a controller for the emulators. I'm going to have to track down that thread soon, thanks for mentioning this possibility! Tuesday can't get here soon enough, hoping my local Fry's will still have one when I'm ready. Wooooo!
Don't feel sorry mate I've used the IPAD 1 & 2 the galaxy tab and the zoom....... this tablet is a clear champion over all of them......I love my tf a lot too
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Yeah, loving mine now that I've got one without lightbleed and dead pixels.
I'll have to take a look at overclocking at some point...... (or just wait until TF201 with the Tegra 3!)
I just sold my iPad 2 last night (For full price) because since I have had a Transformer, my iPad was never used.
Much has happened since we got our phones - awesome time, news, updates, hopes. But those things started to fade away and XPlay started to slowly be left behind. I consider we should draw a line up until now and reflect to what might happen afterwards. I'll list a few talking topics in which we should ask ourselves some questions.
1. About the ICS update
The ICS update promise and then denial surely was a great dissapointment for us all. I, for myself, somehow did manage to lose interest in the phone, the main reason being this old version. I wanted something new, something interesting for the phone so I can enjoy it even more. Although ICS was cancelled on purpose, I still feel that the main reason was laziness. Moving on...
2. Future GB updates. When?
So after the ICS dissapointment, we were promised the phone would receive some new GB updates to make up for it. But when? After 2 years when nobody is gonna use the phone anymore? I want GB 2.3.7, I want the new XPlay launcher seen on ICS beta, but not after the device will be long forgotten.
3. The future of XPlay. Is it bright?
Considering the two aspects above, who would want to buy XPlay anymore these days? Would actual XPlay owners consider keeping the device any longer? Until when? Consider the subsections below:
Xperia Play 2 not to be expected
Fewer XPlay optimised games by the day
No ICS, no new updates
Ouya to influence Android optimised games?
4. XPlay users past 6 monhs or one year
I would like to hear the current feedback of the device from other "veterans". From my perspective, it was an awesome year, although I'm starting to get a little bored by the device. Luckily, no buttons are scratched or fell off, although I could say my case isn't looking that good (it's scratched).
Let's discuss about this matters and see what is to be done with XPlay from now on.
I think it's been abandoned. I would upgrade to a different device when your contract allows it to.
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5. As a gaming device. I don't think it has future since the modern games (batman - spiderman - Asphelt 7) run with a huge lag, future games will not run.
Xperia-Play said:
5. As a gaming device. I don't think it has future since the modern games (batman - spiderman - Asphelt 7) run with a huge lag, future games will not run.
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Cant speak for Spiderman/batman but Asphalt 7 plays smooth on mine...... then again I am running at 1.2ghz and supercharged. I will snag batman/spiderman some time later and test out
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who would want to buy XPlay anymore these days? Would actual XPlay owners consider keeping the device any longer? Until when?
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The people who will want it will be the only people who wanted it in the first place, Gamers. The problem is you're thinking of the Xperia Play as mostly a phone. I don't know about anyone else, but the main reason I bought this phone was because I wanted something that could emulate all the old retro consoles after my PSP broke. The fact that I needed a new phone and the Play was cheap as hell was just a very nice bonus.
However, on the other hand, this is a phone, and it is running Android. And seeing as it's running Android, who the hell was expecting to use it as a phone for a long time in the first place?
I'm already looking for a new phone(The Play is too slow, the keyboard is ****ed now that it's summer, and I can't play and text all day from the same device at the same time) but i'm definately keeping the Play, it will always have a place as a dedicated emulation console.
Having owned mine for over a year it has not aged well in comparison to some handsets! But yeah when my contract is up looking to see what Samsung have on offer! But will be keeping my Play! Simply as an emulation engine! Even if it died! Still think I would pick up another along side a new handset! Just carnt beat the REAL controls!
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The people who will want it will be the only people who wanted it in the first place, Gamers. The problem is you're thinking of the Xperia Play as mostly a phone. I don't know about anyone else, but the main reason I bought this phone was because I wanted something that could emulate all the old retro consoles after my PSP broke. The fact that I needed a new phone and the Play was cheap as hell was just a very nice bonus.
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^ Actually that's my main reason aswel for buying the XPlay. I'm just saying how the majority of the consumers think nowadays.
This may sound odd but I'm getting a brand new XP tomorrow. For a hefty price too. Went through several ones, always regretted selling them. Don't ask me why I do this,it's some kind of a disorder probably But the last one was the worst - immediately after I sold it new games started appearing on the Store - Lara Croft, Dead Trigger, Broken Sword, FF 3. Well they are not 'new' but are sort of new to Android. I don't care if the support is waning (I don't see it that way) it's still a pretty decent device/smartphone and the emulation possibilities are awesome. I especially like how many PS1 games I could try on it, while my former PS Vita was still waiting for PS1 support. So, er, I hope one year from now they still make most Android games compatible with this awesome device. I am of the opinion that it must have sold more units than the PS Vita (so far), so it should be worth it to the developers.
I have now got myself a Samsung Galaxy S3 since my upgrade was due. Funny thing is that even though the S3 is much more powerful than the play, and has a much nicer screen, plus ICS on it is great, I don`t feel quite the love I have for my Play.
I have tried playing games using on screen controls and hate it so much! The S3 is great for other games such as Asphalt 7, Super Monkey ball, Broken Sword, Demolition Inc etc, but any games requiring a gamepad just don`t do it for me on the S3, I miss the feel of a true gamepad, the touch of real buttons, the feeling of a real directional pad.
My S3 is now king of media, net and games designed for touch screen, but when it comes to the crunch and I feel like playing some genesis, snes, N64 etc games my Play will always be with me, it will always rule for beat `em ups too.
As long as onlive is around, there should never be a reason to ditch the play.
I'll take emulation and onlive over any android game any day of the week.
Have had mine since launch, but didn't find the XDA scene til like January.
But yeah, it's failed. Especially the Verizon one. They updated it twice, and ****ing broke it in the 3rd update. Go die Verizon.
The custom ICS roms are the only thing making this phone bearable, was really upset when games like Mass Effect weren't optimized for this phone. But I was kinda disappointed from the start due to the average processing power for a phone that was meant for gaming. And the promised updates are still not here.
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The people who will want it will be the only people who wanted it in the first place, Gamers. The problem is you're thinking of the Xperia Play as mostly a phone.
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Ditto. People wanna pretend that the lack of ICS is the ultimate omen of disaster for the Xperia Play when there's so much more truth slipping under the radar.
I bought the Xperia Play because it was the only phone on the market that had real gaming potential, and actually worked with a large amount of this-generation games (as opposed to everything else that fails from having sub-par touch controls, or fails because it's only good for emulation). For that purpose, it's been great. Sales are another story, but through some form of paradox, Xperia Play managed to get software support that's far above and beyond what we would expect with so many (non-owners) claiming it's commercially failed. It's software support has actually been so strong and diverse that I constantly question if I really needed to buy the PlayStation Vita I got some months back.
When it was revealed that ICS wasn't coming to Xperia Play, it seemed all too easy to jump on the bandwagon instead of actually paying attention. And those who actually pay attention have already realized that, from a gaming standpoint, Xperia Play's capable of getting all of ICS'es major features without dealing with the general higher memory consumption and crippled game compatibility that we've already seen in action on ICS beta & unofficial ICS roms.
Sure we'd be able to prance around clamoring about having 'the new thing' but pay attention and you realize we still have the cream ofvthe crop for tactile smartphone gaming. I'm still getting buttery smooth performance on stock 2.3.4, and as the person whose taken it upon myself to actively database Xperia Play's game releases, I can say with 100% confidence that the release schedule has not slowed down one bit. The phone's never demonstrated any level of falling behind or becoming too slow to handle any benchmark game thrown at it.
Furthermore, we've got to a point in which software options allow us to manually add controls to games, so all of the 150+ charted developers could hypothetically ditch the Xperia Play and we'd still be able to play future games.
Not to say anyone is right or wrong, but it's all about perception; if you want to believe Xperia Play's a sinking ship, there's a good chance that's something you've psychologically drilled into your mentality beyond a point of negotiation...and likewise the people who are copiously attentive to Xperia Play's news are swamped in more quality material than they can handle...and more importantly, they realize that ICS (or a lack thereof) isn't gonna stop their fresh, new Call of Duty: Black Ops.
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if you need ICS 404 on Play
i recommended CM9 Stable
My friend flash this rom it's work
Tounchpad is work too
but i still use Gb becuase i don't backup my phone
I just went from g2 to the xp. I don't know if any phone will be next or if there will be something in the future to replace the xp.
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eventhough the SGS3's awesomely attractively big screen almost always makes me drool whenever i see it displayed in various malls, i'm not ditching the play anytime soon.. i just cant live with touhscreen gaming no matter how powerful a phone is..
you're a gamer and no physical gamepad? then your phone's lame..
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eventhough the SGS3's awesomely attractively big screen almost always makes me drool whenever i see it displayed in various malls, i'm not ditching the play anytime soon.. i just cant live with touhscreen gaming no matter how powerful a phone is..
you're a gamer and no physical gamepad? then your phone's lame..
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The SIII is a great phone, but you are right though. Games made for proper controls just don`t feel right on it, this is the same for any device that does not have true physical controls. It is for this reason I got the SIII, it`s great for media and photo`s etc, but my Play stays by my side for dedicated gaming.
narflynn619 said:
eventhough the SGS3's awesomely attractively big screen almost always makes me drool whenever i see it displayed in various malls, i'm not ditching the play anytime soon.. i just cant live with touhscreen gaming no matter how powerful a phone is..
you're a gamer and no physical gamepad? then your phone's lame..
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Yep, that's about the way I feel too.
I've ogled the Galaxy Note, Galaxy S2 (and all it's variants), SIII, HTC Rezound, Nexus as well as quite a few others. All wonderful, wonderful phones!!
... and when I use them, it's quite amazing to see bigger, better screens with larger resolutions and all the wonders that come with NFC. Can't say I'm too fond of how "soft-hardware" keys have become the norm because that makes a rested thumb near the home key exit me out of a game, but there's a lotta beastly phones out there.
Yeah, I'll admit to getting to a point where I'd wanting them (mostly due to my previous lifestyle where I'd go through about 5 phones a year). But then we get to fluidity/smoothness and I notice my Xperia Play's already got that handled... while also having that bonus of a built-in gamepad. There's all kinds of external controller support to be found throughout various Android devices, but a not a single one that can touch how much developer support Xperia Play has under it's belt.
Ideally, that's the only needs Xperia Play needs to fulfill... games and developer support. ICS would've been nice and all just so we didn't get loads of (non-Xperia Play owner) troll communities going on about how we were "dropped," but realistically, the decision to oust Xperia Play from getting ICS proved a level of consideration and integrity that Sony typically does not exhibit...
...and when you look at the general consensus, we all see the recurring theme that all these awesome ICS roms are always followed by the people "in the know" telling us that GB is the best choice for Xperia Play owners who actually care about gaming.
You gave everyone a nice read again TLR. Nice one!
BTW, mind if I asked, you're on stock ROM right? Any fancy tweaks on your phone? Like OC? Just curious.
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BTW, mind if I asked, you're on stock ROM right? Any fancy tweaks on your phone? Like OC? Just curious.
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Yep, as of a couple days ago, I'm officially off TrueAncestor and back on stock 2.3.4 (no disrespect for Jikkyu - he's the man for that rom and all, but it was crippling my memory and eating my battery life alive)... and to be totally honest, I don't know the first thing about tweaks
I did root and debloat it, but that's about it unless we count "child's play"-level stuff like pushing a SystemUI that has toggles.
Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Wow, you're just spoiling for a fight. Perhaps you'd find one if your post made sense?
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It make plenty sense buddy I've just grown up and gotten tired of the slow laggy unresponsive way behind the times that is the xperia play. Maybe you should wake up also. And to the people who are hoping, wishing, dying for an xperia play 2, you really need to give your head a shake and snap out of that dream your locked into cause it won't happen
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Exactly the opposite for me... but then again my experience with the Xperia Play hasn't really left a lot to be desired.
First of all, there's a bit of irony here that kinda makes me grin... and it's that you're a huge part of the reason I've been getting nothing but flawless performance out of my Xperia Play. Do you remember being the creator of this topic? All since you posted that, I've been using, re-using and referring people to that particular ROM because it gave me level of consistent smooth function that can be described as nothing less than 'perfect'. Sure it's not Ice Cream Sandwich, Jelly Bean or whichever bundle of already-existing abilities that people decide to call new for whichever fad update people go wild over... but since these android updates are generally repackaged abilities that any owner of >2.1 Android can get, there's not much reason for me to sacrifice the polished stability of my GB build for anything else. Don't need to upgrade to ICS/JB for notification toggles, because we can already get something that includes far more customization than anything ICS/JB's stock options offer (LINK). Don't need JB's Project Butter because the performance was already silky smooth... we can the look of ICS/JB (LINK), we can get the data monitoring/data management of ICS/JB (LINK), the camera (LINK) and gallery (LINK) of ICS/JB, and even the power management (LINK)... all without ICS/JB.
The idea that this phone *died* because of slow-ness, lag or unresponsiveness always sounds odd to me because my Xperia Play hasn't really ever been slow or unresponsive. Like you though, I was always open to the idea of something better... which is why I reached out to more powerful phones like the Atrix, Evo 3D and Galaxy S3 - thinking that a paired PS3 controller or MOGA would give me a superior experience. Know what happened? The Atrix pretty much self-destructed, the Evo 3D's gaming worth ended up being a trainwreck with loads of games sacrificed the moment it was upgraded to ICS and the situation for GS3 gaming ended up being a frustrating mess. First off, having to pair the MOGA to it alone turns what should be quick and seamless into a chore - and that holds true regardless of whether we go through the MOGA App itself or the "alleged" universal IME. If the quotation didn't make it clear, there's a lot about the universal IME I dislike.
On paper, that should be the clear-cut killer app that totally makes the Xperia Play obsolete... yet it does everything but. It'll make the MOGA ideal for emulators, but by far and large - the appeal of the Xperia Play has been that it's so good at present-generation gaming that it doesn't need to piggyback yester-decade's antiquated games. Not only is the universal IME a ***** to set up, but there's so much sacrificed when trying to pretend the MOGA+uIME replaces Xperia Play. The lack of a d-pad automatically compromises it's practicality for many games where analog locomotion feels weird, and if we want the MOGA Controller that does have a d-pad, we'd be sacrificing portability even more than the existing MOGA (which is easily the bulk of two Xperia Plays even before a phone is put into it)... but for the sake of getting into just how horribly off it is to say MOGA > Xperia Play, let's pretend it isn't automatically on a lower level because of it's cumbersomeness.
Just as an example, let's cite Eternal Legacy. Eternal Legacy is natively a touch-only game that got a special edition for Xperia Play that makes it completely optimized... and by complete; I mean the physical gamepad can be used to manipulate the entire game from menu navigation, map navigation and combat. While it would seem like an RPG should be okay for a touch-screen, having physical controls is still much more precise and much faster way to perform multi-menu operations... so a gamepad is definitely the superior option. First of all, finding a working version of the damn game for the GS3 is annoying in itself... and since it was only truly prime with Xperia Play's gamepad, we have to resort to the only half-ass usable MOGA+uIME+GameKeyboard (or JC6) combination which requires tons of setup, and outputs an experience that's only half-workable (it really only works for field navigation... nothing else). We can plug any phone of any specs into that equation and get the same result, and plug many different games into that equation to also find games in high masses that are only half-playable.
If you see where this is going, you see that I just stepped up to the most well-known of the "steroid phones" and actually ended up making sacrifices... and for what? Fluidity? My Xperia Play experience has already been smooth... and on a stock ROM. We could revive the note that I'm a heavy supporter of GameKeyboard (which also delivers the same sense of half-playability to native touch games)... but Xperia Play's already got over 450 Android titles stacked under it's belt with the count still growing... so it's not only the most heavily supported physical gaming solution, but it's software support is very much so alive... and as the person who's taken on the tooth-gritting (often overwhelming) task of databasing Xperia Play's software releases, I can say from a very strong stance that it's support hasn't faltered.
From here, we could cite the Xperia Play's low internal memory... and to that I'd note how that's become a non-issue with MiniTool Partition and Link2SD. With that combination, I've amassed over 340 installs and I still have 85.4% of my phone storage free.
From here, we could note that Xperia Play's only rocking half a gig of RAM and a single-core processor with it's only real saving grace being an (outdated) Adreno GPU... yet we can have our minds blown as we see beefier phones like the Atrix struggling to run N.O.V.A. 3 as well as the Xperia Play does.
Of course there's stronger phones out there, but I've already got the prime for gaming. MOGA's doing quite well in it's own right and I love to see it getting out of the "only good for emulating old-ass games" category that so many other BT controllers tend to quickly fall into... but it doesn't compare to or replace the Xperia Play at all.
Another thing worth mentioning is just how far it's evolved. Look at any of the old reviews for Xperia Play, and we find that a lot of the original complaints aren't even valid anymore. It records in HD now, the prior complaints of auto-dimming have been handled, and while everyone loved to complain about the lack of integration into Sony's official gaming ecosystem - look at how quiet they've become now that it's been resolved.
Honestly, what puzzles me is exactly what one would be doing to get their Xperia Play to a point of being sluggish, slow or unresponsive. When people see my videos, I'm consistently bombarded with questions about what magic tweaks/kernels/whatnot I used to get my Xperia Play so smooth... and the answer's always the same... nothing. It's a simple stock ROM that I debloated through Root Explorer, paired with a carefully-chosen launcher that's optimal for fluidity and battery life... and it's been VERY smooth, fast and responsive.
Xperia Play's definitely not in the limelight, nor is it burning up the media... and from that it's easy to perceive that the Xperia Play's dead, but for anyone in the know... it's software support and fanbase are still stronger than any other physical gaming medium in the entire world of smartphones. This is why all my stronger phones have been sold or given away so that I can go back to my Xperia Play. No point in having a dual/quad core with as much memory as a desktop computer when my phone's already eating up any software I throw at it with ease.
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Woww.. Just woww..
Regards,
Sdojoin
It's the best gaming phone and multiple-use device by far.
I've recently upgraded to an HTC One X for my daily use phone because it's faster for everyday tasks, but I keep my Xperia Play close by at all times, switching sims if necessary, because it's just so good for gaming.
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I would Luke to add to TL's comment that I too have had the chance to play with (for about 2 days each) a GS3 and an HTC one x and yes they are sweet devices in their own right. But when push came to shove I bought a unlocked xperia play r800at. And have absolutely no regrets. Especially now that I am on or will be in three weeks a GSM phone, all these choices of roms. I've had a pre opus phone two years ago where I used a gamepad overlay for the phone hardware keyboard and sold it on a heartbeat to buy the Verizon xperia play. There too.... no regrets, except thy it's CDMA. But that's a other story. All in all I feel the play is the best multipurpose phone/gaming device out there. Yes its hardware is dated but that hasn't stopped of from still getting game dev love. And lets not even talk about the thousands of roms for emulators. Especially if you have the emus that have been modded to show up in the game launcher.
On a side note. TL what launcher you use on your phone ? I use an older version of go launcher before it became memory hungry. And my phone is super smooth and fast.
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How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
To each their own...
It all come's down to personal preference. I prefer Android gaming on my Galaxy Nexus or Kyros tablet with a Dualshock 3 and the Sixaxis app, but that doesn't mean i don't like my R800x or that the phone has some sort of "problem" or considered "DEAD". In fact I never had a problem with my R800x and it run's like a champ. There's ton's of great game's that are xp optimized, plenty of custom ROM's, and some awesome theme's. My son love's it and use's it all the time.
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BensJammin said:
How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
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This is so true
My xplay is a saviour in all the clothes shops or waiting outside a dressing room as she takes about a hour in on shop it crazy
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Whenever someone say this should go to the HD2 forum and say it to get flamed.
Also my brother have an iPhone5, but I got an R800 for him and the first he said was: COOL!
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I feel like I should get rid of it, but then I just can't. I love this phone.
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TLR owned the OP sooooo bad.
I agree to every word he says.
+1 to you TLR.
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. I can vouch for this and it's actually the reason my brother got rid of it once his contract expired. You shouldn't have to modify or custom install anything for your device to run smooth. Sure, stock GB is good, but it is not perfect or flawless like some are claiming. The PLAY is a fun and enjoyable gaming device, but its performance is not superb, it's tolerable. I do not think TLR's or some of these other guys' opinions are applicable to 100% Pure stock Xperia PLAY. One thing that pissed me off when I was pure stock was the internal memory running out. Come on guys and/or gals, stop practicing fanboyism and call a spade a spade.
In regards to the OP saying they're looking for something better. If you still wanna give Sony a second chance, check out the Xperia Z. It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
Well said TLR and ozzmanj1
Without repeating the flawless statements they have already made , :good: to you guys, right on point!
Is the Xperia Play dead? Do XPlay owners need to grow up and move on? No and No, Im 26 and just got an R800at , ditching Verizon and went to Tmobile. I never found my Play to be slow , sluggish or un responsive. Im running a rooted stock debloated rom with holo launcher and I couldn't be happier, it does everything I need and then some (still to this day) and if were ever in discussion about "you have to root and debloat the XPLay to use it" I honestly root and debloat every android device I own, my entire family uses Droid branded androids and I rooted/debloated all of those as well. Rooted = Liberated !
The developer community here is strong, their are some great minds working on stuff for this device still. Cheers to all of them !
I just also built my 20yr old sister an XPlay and she loves it, she took it over the SG3 for the pure gaming factor (smart choice, especially since SG4 is in the works you would be a fool to buy a SG3 now, and of course I built it for her for free) and I even built one for my 7yr old nephew one, I of course removed and possibilities to make phone calls or text and its not in service, he is just gaming away on it. Hands down, the Xperia Play is a great device and I for one and damn happily to own / use it.
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Whilst I'm not disagreeing with you (the xperia play is not a great phone in stock form, too much bloatware, Sony's stupid habit of low storage on every phone etc) I have to say that it does come into its own when modded, even just rooted. The thing is that most phones feel redundant after 6 months or so now and it seems to be a trend. Apple know it, which is why they release an iPhone every 6 month's. The difference is that some people with buy the new, others will mod the old and make it new again. When I had my iPhone 3g years back it was made redundant early on but after jailbreaking it did multitasking, background wallpapers, folders, everything apple said it couldn't!
The thing is that this is xda developers and the main use for this forum is modifying their phones so if someone criticises then it is obvious that other people will tell them to mod.
Talking of criticism, I have been on this forum for years modding various phones, but have never seen so many people criticising a single handset as they do the XP. It's such a shame as for me it is what I have wanted for so long, something that my N-Gage years ago never managed!!
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well, my first dissapointment was Gameloft games. Standard GL games like 9mm and shadow guardian run on low graphic while galaxy s get the normal version.
I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I couldn't agree with this more ! :good:
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. .... It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
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You are comparing a 2 years old phone, one with single core old CPU technology against a newer gen quadcore device with highend GPU and 5 times the amount of ram.
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.