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T-Mobile Galaxy Tab is WebConnect Data Plan *ONLY* - Verified

Story:
Last Saturday (11/13/10), I had gone into my local T-mobile store with the intention of purchasing a galaxy tab. The idea being that with a whole lot of help from the great devs and everyone on here that I would soon have a fully functional phone. The only way to achieve this is to use a plan that has voice/txt/data. I currently have the unlimited even more plus plan with my G1. The representative that I had spoke with on saturday assured me that all I would have to do is pull the sim from my G1 and use it in the tab. So I proceeded to purchase the tab *at full price*.
Got home, changed sims out. The only website that I could go to was the t-mobile site and the main google page. I could send/receive txt msgs. Wifi worked fine.
Today (11/15/10), I had called and set up an appointment with the same representative to help me fix the data issue. Got there after work. They were trying to help me when the manager stepped in, told the sales associate to go in the back and that he would take over. From that point on I was verbally berated and talked down to by said manager. Ending in the manager saying that everything that I was told by the sales representative was a miscommunication or that things that I was told, in front of other sales reps, never happened. At that point, I calmly said that I was well within my period to return the Tab at full price. The manager said fine in a huff. That went smoothly until he told me that there would be a return/restocking fee. And I'll admit it, that would be when I lost it, said somethings I shouldn't have. Finally paid the fee, got my money back, and jumped on here. Suffice it to say I am still furious. And I will never use T-mobile again, none of my family will ever use t-mobile again, I will tell everyone I know not to use T-mobile.
Good luck on getting the phone option to work. The webconnect data plan is the only option you have for a plan and t-mobile is actively blocking voice on it.

That's too bad because someone on here from T-Mobile claims that non-contract $600 T-Mobile Samsung Tab with Even More Plus plan with data portion provisioned for Android works. Save me time and money as I was about to go this route.

Unlocking doesn't help
Confirmed. Also, to my experience, unlocking doesn't help. If you unlock, you can use an AT&T card, but a T-mobile SIM card with an "Even More Plus" plan (voice + unlimited data) will only go to Google and T-mobile. What is wrong with T-mobile?

Well, the real question is, does a SIM from SimpleMobile (on the T-Mobile network) work. I thought I'd seen a report that it did, and only the software was a problem currently.

yes, if your tab is unlocked, and you flash the euro firmware, it works fine, other than running on edge. i am using it myself.
ResonanceZero said:
Well, the real question is, does a SIM from SimpleMobile (on the T-Mobile network) work. I thought I'd seen a report that it did, and only the software was a problem currently.
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That manager is a jerk!!! You should not have to pay the restocking fee. I know it says so on the receipt but I returned mine/full refund with no question ask!!!
Call Tmob up if you want that fee back!

Thats why i returned my tmobile tab for an att tab, now i have voice and 3g life is good! By the way tmobile does charge a $10 restocking which is no biggy.
Fuc$&@$$k u tmobile hello at&t.

What plans are you guys getting with the att tabs?
mywingtophone said:
Thats why i returned my tmobile tab for an att tab, now i have voice and 3g life is good! By the way tmobile does charge a $10 restocking which is no biggy.
Fuc$&@$$k u tmobile hello at&t.
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Sent from Jt's Samsung Galaxy Tab!!

Wondering if the Euro flash would allow 2g w/o webconnect data plan? I have Android data currently w/T-Mo.

Using my ANR plan ($0) with my at&t tab ($0) and everything works... data, sms, voice, mobile hotspot, etc. Sweet.

TMobile Galaxy Tab Calls DOES Work
FYI All. I have tested and currently use the TMobile Galaxy Tab to make and receive calls. No Problems at all. As a matter of a fact...It Works GREAT!!! Follow the directions to install the Phone tab. Insert a TMobile SIM card with a data and phone plan on it....and Boom. Works Awesome!!!

Manipul8r said:
FYI All. I have tested and currently use the TMobile Galaxy Tab to make and receive calls. No Problems at all. As a matter of a fact...It Works GREAT!!! Follow the directions to install the Phone tab. Insert a TMobile SIM card with a data and phone plan on it....and Boom. Works Awesome!!!
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So your saying both voice and 3g is working? if yes please share...

Manipul8r said:
FYI All. I have tested and currently use the TMobile Galaxy Tab to make and receive calls. No Problems at all. As a matter of a fact...It Works GREAT!!! Follow the directions to install the Phone tab. Insert a TMobile SIM card with a data and phone plan on it....and Boom. Works Awesome!!!
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what data plan do you have?
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I love t-mobile and the guys down here in salt lake city have been awesome for me.
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Greenarcher707 said:
Using my ANR plan ($0) with my at&t tab ($0) and everything works... data, sms, voice, mobile hotspot, etc. Sweet.
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What is the ANR plan?

Geesh ill be more then happy to open an account for you with android data, just stop by my shop. Austin,TX
The one thing I advice you to do is have direct comms with your knowledgable rep. Ask him when he works with no managers. That way he can work your account and have no one to question what he is doing. Its your device, its your money! Just dont ask the rep to do anything crazy.keep in mind too if there are alot of customers,let them go so you can have more time for hacking.
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BertoJG said:
What is the ANR plan?
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anr means approval not required, and how can I get one on a tmobile galaxy tab?

mypd1991 said:
anr means approval not required, and how can I get one on a tmobile galaxy tab?
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read the post wrong sorry

Confirmed.
I just got off the phone with T-Mobile Customer Service.
Without providing alot of detail to the Rep. giving the IMEI, He confirmed that they only allow tablets for data only.
to the respect that it is 'their' Infrastructure, and they can do what they like. There really isn't any sensible reason to even have this line of separation unless you consider they are trying to control 'phones' and 'tablets' as seperate commodity.
The recent post from a Store 'rep' pretty much confirms this. It's a manual human intervention. Which now recently looks like they have all known IMEI of certain tablets to filter for people trying to use their tablets as a phone.
Still lame. This adds another notch to jump ship in November to Sprint.

To WhiteBeau, i can confirm that i have a regular phone plan on my device (GALAXY TAB GT-P1000). The way I was able to acquire this was by not providing them with my IMEI # (the less info you give them the better), and I JAILBROKE my table to totally REMOVE MY TMOBILE SECURITY PAGE (SPLASH PAGE) that pops up asking for your info. However the downfall to this is that it wipes out your IMEI #, but this is something I can deal with. Now i get with my $30 a month plan is 100mnts talk, unlimited text (pics & vids) and unlimited internet (first 5gigs @ 4g speed). So now i dont feel like Im getting molested by Tmobile... lol.......

4G Plan Email from AT&T

Any one get this email?
When I got my Atrix from AT&T in the mail it did come with a new SIM card, but it wouldn't activate, so I just used my old one from my iPhone 3GS days and then used it for a whole year in my Nexus One without issues.
A. I didn't think you needed a different SIM to get [fake] 4G service.
B. What plan are they talking about...I thought I could continue to use my iPhone UNLIMITED plan.
I smell BS. Thoughts? Should I go into the local store and see what this is all about??
Dear *****,
We hope you are enjoying your 4G Smartphone!
We value your business and want to ensure you're set up with the right data plan for your Smartphone. If you have recently swapped a SIM card from your 3G handset into your 4G Smartphone, your data service may not work properly. Please call us at 1-800-331-0500 (or 611 from your wireless phone) and our team can help you establish service with an AT&T 4G Data Plan.
Our team is ready to help you activate data service with the right plan. We look forward to your call.
Thank you for being an AT&T customer.
Sincerely,
AT&T

You don't need a 4g sim, the 3g is the same thing. Now they do have an unlimited 4g plan if you were on another 3g unlimited plan. I had to go to a corporate store to switch it over, I tried online but it errored out. This obviously didn't give me any faster speeds but I might as well have it.
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You will be able to continue your grandfathered unlimited plan. But the iphone has a different plan in regards of voicemail etc.
It's no BS. Just make sure they catch it that u have the unlimited data already, which they have to activate.
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spielnicht said:
Any one get this email?
When I got my Atrix from AT&T in the mail it did come with a new SIM card, but it wouldn't activate, so I just used my old one from my iPhone 3GS days and then used it for a whole year in my Nexus One without issues.
A. I didn't think you needed a different SIM to get [fake] 4G service.
B. What plan are they talking about...I thought I could continue to use my iPhone UNLIMITED plan.
I smell BS. Thoughts? Should I go into the local store and see what this is all about??
Dear *****,
We hope you are enjoying your 4G Smartphone!
We value your business and want to ensure you're set up with the right data plan for your Smartphone. If you have recently swapped a SIM card from your 3G handset into your 4G Smartphone, your data service may not work properly. Please call us at 1-800-331-0500 (or 611 from your wireless phone) and our team can help you establish service with an AT&T 4G Data Plan.
Our team is ready to help you activate data service with the right plan. We look forward to your call.
Thank you for being an AT&T customer.
Sincerely,
AT&T
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No bs you can get the unlimited 4g plan nothings gonna change in terms of speed but your phone will be ready for when they turn it on
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No more unlimited
They want you to sign up for a capped plan. I want to know how they can tell. I would happily accept 3G data plan performance. I am just occasionally using the phone with SIM for testing, so I really don't want that...
Maybe the default APN is different for 4G phones from ATT. I wish I had an old Android that I could check settings from.
I see AT&T US and AT&T HSDPA as options. I am think of switching it to AT&T US, I think this might put us in "stealth" so to speak.

Like you, I swapped my sim rom an older 3g phone, namely the vibrant unlocked, to the attic and my data didn't work at all. What's worse is that when I go to the at&t store, they told me that they could put data back on it but it wouldn't be unlimited ( I grandfathered in ) . I told them that I don need their *fake* 4G . I just need my regular good o' 3g . What I had to do was file a request to them and waited about a week before someone called and finally gave me the unlimited plan that was promised in my contract. Quite an experienc eh?

I still have my old Cingular SIM card, and it works fine for me.

A 4G sim is not needed for the Atrix. It is for when they have LTE later this year. Do not let the reps lie to you about anything. The HSDPA+ that the Atrix uses is just a better 3G, that's all.

Clienterror said:
You don't need a 4g sim, the 3g is the same thing. Now they do have an unlimited 4g plan if you were on another 3g unlimited plan. I had to go to a corporate store to switch it over, I tried online but it errored out. This obviously didn't give me any faster speeds but I might as well have it.
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I think you *do* have to use a newer 4G SIM. Either way the phone usually comes with one.
If you need one you can literally walk into any AT&T store and get one for free in like 2 minutes without a hassle.

hotleadsingerguy said:
I think you *do* have to use a newer 4G SIM. Either way the phone usually comes with one.
If you need one you can literally walk into any AT&T store and get one for free in like 2 minutes without a hassle.
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The new sim cards they are giving out are just 3G sim cards with a 4G printed on it. Trust me, that's the only difference.

They just need your new IMEI
Turns out that there is nothing sneaky going on at all. I bought the phone without them knowing about it, so their system doesn't have my new IMEI number recorded. I'm in an area with HSPA+, so I guess they see that there is an unknown IMEI on there logged in with my SIM, so they texted/email me. In any case, I called them up and they just asked for the IMEI and updated my plan to work with it. I had an iPhone 3G w/Unlimited before, and I still do now. The customer service rep was really nice and just figured out how to get me the exact same features (unlimited, messaging, etc) without me even asking.

[Q] Question about AT&T data plans.

So I'm on a 3g android smartphone with AT&T right now and if i got a 4g off contract would i have to pay for the 4g service which is really expensive or could i just stay on my good Ole 3g service i am currently using?

I think you can keep your current plan, but don't hold me to that. It may have changed since I've asked about it.
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This is the latest thing I've found regarding you question. I asked a little while after that. xD

Since when did they start offering a 4g plan?

I know with my AT&T Sony Ericsson Xperia X10a that when I unbranded and updated to 2.1, my mobile data automatically increased from 3G to "H" or HSPA which is like 3.5G without any rate changes.
I am guessing with AT&T that 4G will be more money, so I am happy with HSPA at 3G rates. Especially since the competition is limiting the speeds of their unlimited data plans.

i thnk the 4g prices will be the same as 3g then 3g prices will drop down.

But will using "4G" route you through a different WAP? If not and it's all a matter of wording and phrasing, I say root/rom and use unlimited data as if you were on a non-smartphone. They don't have to know, you don't have to throw your $ away.

Skv012a said:
But will using "4G" route you through a different WAP? If not and it's all a matter of wording and phrasing, I say root/rom and use unlimited data as if you were on a non-smartphone. They don't have to know, you don't have to throw your $ away.
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The fact is that with AT&T data is measured in MB or GB, not speed or time. Regardless of how fast or slow you download or use data, it is metered.
However, I do agree that it could be as easy as changing your settings to access 4G, but it won't save you any money.

AT&T's "4G" technology is technically 3G according to the standards committee that oversees these technologies. However, when AT&T starts deploying real 4G, LTE, the prices have a good chance of changing. For now, "4G" plans cost the same as any other.
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jonandkym said:
AT&T's "4G" technology is technically 3G according to the standards committee that oversees these technologies. However, when AT&T starts deploying real 4G, LTE, the prices have a good chance of changing. For now, "4G" plans cost the same as any other.
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Exactly, it is based on volume of data used, not on speed of use.

I personally plan to switch to verizon once they allow data roll over and family-plan sharing.

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I personally plan to switch to verizon once they allow data roll over and family-plan sharing.
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Verizon also limits data speeds on unlimited plans. Either way you are going to pay for data in time or money.

I have a very similar question. Hopefully someone can shed some light.
HERES WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW:
I am currently using a Rogers HTC Dream, unlocked rooted and running Gingeryoshi on AT&T. On my line, "Line A," I have the $10 unlimited dumbphone data plan and AT&T thinks I have a Samsung A737 (ancient slider phone). When I bought the phone on ebay, I just put in the APN settings and off I went.
Thanks to a contract renewal discount on "Line B" on my account, whose user does not need a new phone, I recently purchased an HTC Inspire 4G.
HERE IS THE QUESTION:
When I receive the phone, AT&T told me that I can use it on Line A, even though it was purchased through Line B. However, they said I need to call in to activate it. They said that until I do the upgrade will be listed as "incomplete" on their end. Further, they said that I will have to bump up to at least the $15 200MB data plan.
I told them I just want to sell the phone and not use it. They told me I still have to call and activate it, but that I can then "remove" it from the account and "reactivate" my dumbphone, at which point I will be reverted to the $10 a month dumbphone plan.
The $1,000,000 question: when I receive the new AT&T branded HTC Inspire, can I just pop my existing sim that I'm using in my Rogers Dream into the Inspire, and use it without calling to activate?
**to be clear, I'm not talking about bypassing the Android activation screen. Seeing as how there was no "activation" process for my Rogers Dream, I'm unfamiliar with the process as to AT&T branded phones. So, I guess the questions is if it is any different. I am comfortable rooting and roming, so if either of those processes will get me an Inspire working with my $10 data plan I'm ready to pull the trigger.
ALSO: THANK YOU XDA FORUMS. I think this is my first real post here, but I have browsed the forums for hours and you all helped me along from tethering my A737 to rooting my first T-Mobile G1, to installing roms and the DangerSPL on my Rogers Dream, so hopefully you can help me with this!

okachowwa said:
So I'm on a 3g android smartphone with AT&T right now and if i got a 4g off contract would i have to pay for the 4g service which is really expensive or could i just stay on my good Ole 3g service i am currently using?
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jessehclark said:
I have a very similar question. Hopefully someone can shed some light.
HERES WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW:
I am currently using a Rogers HTC Dream, unlocked rooted and running Gingeryoshi on AT&T. On my line, "Line A," I have the $10 unlimited dumbphone data plan and AT&T thinks I have a Samsung A737 (ancient slider phone). When I bought the phone on ebay, I just put in the APN settings and off I went.
Thanks to a contract renewal discount on "Line B" on my account, whose user does not need a new phone, I recently purchased an HTC Inspire 4G.
HERE IS THE QUESTION:
When I receive the phone, AT&T told me that I can use it on Line A, even though it was purchased through Line B. However, they said I need to call in to activate it. They said that until I do the upgrade will be listed as "incomplete" on their end. Further, they said that I will have to bump up to at least the $15 200MB data plan.
I told them I just want to sell the phone and not use it. They told me I still have to call and activate it, but that I can then "remove" it from the account and "reactivate" my dumbphone, at which point I will be reverted to the $10 a month dumbphone plan.
The $1,000,000 question: when I receive the new AT&T branded HTC Inspire, can I just pop my existing sim that I'm using in my Rogers Dream into the Inspire, and use it without calling to activate?
**to be clear, I'm not talking about bypassing the Android activation screen. Seeing as how there was no "activation" process for my Rogers Dream, I'm unfamiliar with the process as to AT&T branded phones. So, I guess the questions is if it is any different. I am comfortable rooting and roming, so if either of those processes will get me an Inspire working with my $10 data plan I'm ready to pull the trigger.
ALSO: THANK YOU XDA FORUMS. I think this is my first real post here, but I have browsed the forums for hours and you all helped me along from tethering my A737 to rooting my first T-Mobile G1, to installing roms and the DangerSPL on my Rogers Dream, so hopefully you can help me with this!
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Ok, I work for AT&T and saw this thread and thought maybe I'd help clear some of this stuff up.
First, the 3G and the 4G plans are pretty much the same thing. You should be good using a 4g phone off contract. they are labeled different in my system at AT&T but I believe them to be the same plan because AT&T does not have a full 4G plan yet. But to be safe you can switch because the 4G plan smartphone plan costs the same as the 3G smartphone plan.
Unless you are saying you have a 3G "QMD" (Quick Messaging Device), or in lamest terms, a Non-Smartphone or "DumbPhone" haha. And that leads me to my next point. Pay attention here haha. As far as I've seen, if you have an ATT phone, the system will automatically detect if you've switched phones. Like if you went from a QMD to a ATT Smartphone, the system will auto-detect that you have a smartphone and will switch your data plan and notify you of it.
BUT, from what I've seen a few times, if you get a NON ATT Smartphone, the system doesnt seem to recognize you have a smartphone because it doesnt recognize the IMEI as a smartphone but instead as a Third-Party Device. Therefore it doesnt change your plan.
Now this does not happen to ALL non-ATT smarphones. Like my buddy who went from a QMD to an unlocked Tmo HD2 on his ATT plan. the system some how recognized his phone as a smartphone and switched him. He might have one of the phones that ATT has been able to recognize I guess.
As for getting the Inspire 4G and not activating it but using it on your other line, I would have to say that is a bad idea. If you dont activate it then after 30 days that additional line is cancelled and removed off your acct and ATT will then request the phone back. and if you dont return it, then ATT will charge the price of the phone to your acct. So no, dont do that.
As far as I know, the best way to go about getting a smartphone and not be forced to change your plan from the $10 QMD unlimited data plan to the smartphone plans is to get a non-ATT smartphone and hope they cannot recognize it as a smartphone.
My guess would be if you use 2 gb of data on that though, ATT might start asking questions as to why you are using 2gb of data on a non-smartphone though, haha. so be careful.
wrote a book but atleast I cleared some stuff up for you guys

thanks for the input chris-
you got at something that i had been wondering, mainly, whats the difference (in terms of detecting whether i have a smart phone) between my G1 or my Dream and the Inspire I just ordered. Is it that AT&T has the IMEI? I thought carriers could detect the IMEI of my Dream and discover that it was a smartphone, but they haven't...
As for the data, what's funny is that I've been using the Dream on that line with the $10 plan for 2 years, averaging 1 to 3 GB of data a month. I even had the rep pull up my account and, in the same conversation, verify that I had an A737 dumbphone (its just easier to say) and that I was using over 2GB of data. =) hahah
so, I guess I will need to activate the phone, tell them im selling it and using a razr, give them the razr imei (i have an old one) then switch the sim to the inspire and hope they dont catch it.
i wonder if anyone has tried this (maybe using an AT&T phone that they purchased on craigslist or ebay on AT&T) and how it went for them.
I guess this is sort of the even cheaper form of the UNLIM DATA 4 EVERYONE iPhone 2G trick!
PS chris I lold when you said you worked for AT&T but your info shows you're a Tmo customer. =) Maybe soon they'll be one in the same...

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thanks for the input chris-
you got at something that i had been wondering, mainly, whats the difference (in terms of detecting whether i have a smart phone) between my G1 or my Dream and the Inspire I just ordered. Is it that AT&T has the IMEI? I thought carriers could detect the IMEI of my Dream and discover that it was a smartphone, but they haven't...
As for the data, what's funny is that I've been using the Dream on that line with the $10 plan for 2 years, averaging 1 to 3 GB of data a month. I even had the rep pull up my account and, in the same conversation, verify that I had an A737 dumbphone (its just easier to say) and that I was using over 2GB of data. =) hahah
so, I guess I will need to activate the phone, tell them im selling it and using a razr, give them the razr imei (i have an old one) then switch the sim to the inspire and hope they dont catch it.
i wonder if anyone has tried this (maybe using an AT&T phone that they purchased on craigslist or ebay on AT&T) and how it went for them.
I guess this is sort of the even cheaper form of the UNLIM DATA 4 EVERYONE iPhone 2G trick!
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Glad I could help
But again I would strongly advise not actually using the Inspire because even if you give them the imei of a Moto Razr, if you put that sim in the Inspire, since it's an AT&T phone, They will probably recognize it automatically and sign you up on the smartphone data plan. The only way that I know of to get around it is to use a NON-ATT smartphone, therefore they dont know what the phone is.
Know what I mean?
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PS chris I lold when you said you worked for AT&T but your info shows you're a Tmo customer. =) Maybe soon they'll be one in the same...
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Yea, I love being a customer with Tmo. And I swear I'll be so mad if this merger goes thru

thanks again chris!
everyone's responses are always appreciated. thought i'd give you all a quick update:
today my inspire arrived. I called the automated activation line, entered some billing info, and accepted the terms and conditions. i did not use the new sim card sent to me at any point.
i called ATT&T just to be safe and confirm, which they did, that i had completed activation properly. my line wouldnt be canceled because i didnt put the new sim in the new phone, and i would not be charged the retail price of the inspire even though it was not registered on the line i used to order it. i told them simply that i wanted to sell the inspire, and they assured me it would work without further AT&T involvement if i put in a compatible sim card. seems like they are most concerned about 1) getting you to accept the contract in exchange for the phone and 2) getting you on a **&%*[email protected] data plan if they catch wind of you using a smartphone.
they also confirmed that NO data charges had been added to the line i used to order the upgrade, and that the 2 year contract was in effect. score.
inspire is charging, ill let you all know how it goes when i turn it on and put in my OLD AT&T sim (on the line with the $10 dumbphone plan). According to chris im rolling the dice here, so OPTIMALLY it will turn on, connect to sweet sweet 4G data, and AT&T will keep thinking I have a dumbphone. if so, chalk one up for shiftiness.

yes is it man

I have an unlocked Tmo HD2 on AT&T rooted to NexusHD Gingerbread. They think I'm still using a dumb phone. My data rate did not change.

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I have an unlocked Tmo HD2 on AT&T rooted to NexusHD Gingerbread. They think I'm still using a dumb phone. My data rate did not change.
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(Someone) should open a new thread on the whole various factors of unlocking non att phones or actual att smartphones but being able to trick att into thinking were using a crappy dumb phone haha (;
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I second that notion above me!
I'm thinking about switching to the Nexus One that works with the ATT 850 and 1900 bands but, after reading all these stories of people getting switched over to the $30 smartphone data plan I'm contemplating whether I should or not. It seems as though ATT is starting to recognizing and crackdown on more and more non-att smartphone imeis and switching them to the "appropriate" smartphone data plan.
Is there a list of phones that are still unrecognized by ATTs database?

[Q] AT&T user Trading iphone4 for sgs2**HELP**

I am new here so apologies.. i have been trying to get all my questions answered by searching.
It seems that the sgs2 is rad. im eligible for an upgrade at AT&T and found someone at t-mobile who also is. I will buy a white iphone4 and trade for his sgs2.
I think this is possible, is it not? any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
ps. i plan on rooting and and what not

The SGS2 doesn't exist on T-Mobile. The closest thing by name they have is the Galaxy S 4G which is basically just a SGS1 with T-Mobile U.S. AWS bands. Is it someone who bought an SGS2 from overseas and is using it on T-Mobile? Before you start screwing around with your AT&T contract I'd check out what you're actually going to get in the swap. If you end up getting a SGS2 it works fine on AT&T out of the box.

yea im retarded. i just learned that you literally cannot get this phone through any carrier. you have to buy it fresh for the 700 or whatever it is.
ive been doing a lot of research and ive decided on this phone .. but at this point i save 500 bux by renewing my plan and buying an atrix. any thoughts??

koryp924 said:
yea im retarded. i just learned that you literally cannot get this phone through any carrier. you have to buy it fresh for the 700 or whatever it is.
ive been doing a lot of research and ive decided on this phone .. but at this point i save 500 bux by renewing my plan and buying an atrix. any thoughts??
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Of all AT&T's phones, the iP4 in white is the most marketable on eBay. You could renew your contract and get one and probably sell it for close to $600. Then order the SGS2 from the UK or Expansys-USA for about $100-150 more. You could also use the dumb-phone unlimited data plan with the SGS2 for $10 a month which would eventually pay back the difference you paid. Good luck.

i have read about using the dumbphone plan. realistically it isn't supposed to last for much longer is it?

koryp924 said:
i have read about using the dumbphone plan. realistically it isn't supposed to last for much longer is it?
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AT&T has no auditing software on their network to know who is using what. They rely on a database of IEMI numbers for the phones they sell (the Nexus' being an exception). Since the SGS2 isn't an IEMI they recognize it flies below the radar. It could change at some point but its been this way for a while.

OK. so just to clarify. I would buy the iphone and a data plan. sell the iphone and buy a sgs2 online somewhere. call att when i recieve the sgs2 (put my sim card in it) and tell them i lost my iphone already and will be returning to a razr (or w.e dumbphone) and want a dumbphone plan?
edit: and worst case scenario i just pay for a data plan and the phone works fully??

there's no reason to tell them anything. when you put your sim in the new phone att's system will not be able to match the imei and will list it as an unknown phone. just go into your account online and choose data for dumbphones plan.
a word to the wise, make sure you read all the fine print where ever you get your new phone from. a lot of them have conditions where you have to keep the smartphone data for at least a certain amount of time.

He has to sign-up for a smartphone plan to get the iP4. OP, once you get the iP4 tell them it fell in the pool and you're using your Krzr until you can save up for a new one. After they make the switch, tell them you want the dumb-phone plan.

I'm pretty sure signing a new contract locks you I'm for a smart phone data(iPhone data). You can still get the SGS2 to work, you just have to call AT&T and tell them you need to change your iPhone data plan to a smartphone/Android data plan. You will need a new sim completely as well because the iPhone uses a mini sim card.

Illicit Hero said:
I'm pretty sure signing a new contract locks you I'm for a smart phone data(iPhone data). You can still get the SGS2 to work, you just have to call AT&T and tell them you need to change your iPhone data plan to a smartphone/Android data plan. You will need a new sim completely as well because the iPhone uses a mini sim card.
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i mean that would be pretty messed up if you actually broke your smartphone and still had to pay for a data plan for two years even though your using a dumbphone...

koryp924 said:
i mean that would be pretty messed up if you actually broke your smartphone and still had to pay for a data plan for two years even though your using a dumbphone...
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I started a new account with AT&T so I never had to change plans. Others have posted that what I shared with you has worked for them. Maybe someone else who's changed plans mid-contract can comment.

Will it work (SGS2) on Tmobile USA? or just 2G?

nraudigy2 said:
Will it work (SGS2) on Tmobile USA? or just 2G?
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It works fine on TMO USA it's just you only get edge speeds. But of the box it works no problem.

The truth of unlimited data

1. you only need an original iphone imei.. not a sim card
2. call and add the imie to the account (2things will happen, 1. they will add the imei and the billing system will allow them to add the $20 unlimited data or 2. a case will be submitted and within 48 hours the data plan will be added)
3. after it has been add your data most likely will not work.
4. call in the next day and tell them you have a new phone
5. be imperitive about keepin the data if the rep cant do it. do not change the imei you must call back different cal centers have different abilities depending on the billing system.
6. get it changed to the soc code is-HSDPBB (4G HSPA+) $30 data plan. and add your imie back
*** BE SURE YOU TELL THE REP THAT EXACT SOC CODE UP ABOVE (HSDPPB) ITS WHAT THE BILLING SYSTEM RECOGNIZES
****STARTING OCTOBER 5th ALL UNLIMITED DATA USERS IN THE TOP 5% WILL BE THROTTLED JUST FYI****
and yes i know that this type of thing is posted couldnt help myself to clear certain things up

is this the same as smartphone personal? when i did my upgrade i still have smartphone personal in olam.
and my upgrade was done at a cor store.

So adding an iphone IMEI will create a new line? OR do you decativate your atrix line?

HSDPPB is "Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device."
Once you have the iPhone unlimited data plan in place, any customer service supervisor should be able to change your data plan to HSDPPB because the iPhone unlimited plan is on the "gold list" of data plans necessary to be able to get HSDPPB. If the first rep you get says they can't do it, just ask to speak to his or her supervisor.

gammite said:
is this the same as smartphone personal? when i did my upgrade i still have smartphone personal in olam.
and my upgrade was done at a cor store.
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Log in to OLAM, then go to the Manage Features page for your account. If "Smartphone Personal" is your selected data plan, click on those words ("Smartphone Personal"). The last few digits of the URL for the Java pop-up window will be the data plan code.

did you really just re-post the same info as a thread that's been and STILL IS on the front page of this forum for months?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698

dLo GSR said:
did you really just re-post the same info as a thread that's been and STILL IS on the front page of this forum for months?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698
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He posted a different thread if you read it. He is telling people they don't need a SIM card to do this!
Next time read the thread you are linking AND the thread you are posting in properly before posting!

The thing is (I think) is the ime that is registered to your account. Walk in to a store with an iphone. Say you want to switch your account to that phone and get your $20 plan. Walk out and shove that sim card into your android phone and you are done. The imei of the iphone is still registered to your account.
Please correct if I'm wrong. But using this method with blackberry instead of iphone yielded me and a bunch of friends unlimited undetected usage in a blackberry plan. I have a blackberry bold that I just pass to my friends to use to register blackberry plans and then switch sim card.
Anyway that's it lol
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The thing is (I think) is the ime that is registered to your account. Walk in to a store with an iphone. Say you want to switch your account to that phone and get your $20 plan. Walk out and shove that sim card into your android phone and you are done. The imei of the iphone is still registered to your account.
Please correct if I'm wrong. But using this method with blackberry instead of iphone yielded me and a bunch of friends unlimited undetected usage in a blackberry plan. I have a blackberry bold that I just pass to my friends to use to register blackberry plans and then switch sim card.
Anyway that's it lol
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Would it matter what kind of blackberry I would do this with? I thought they did IMEI sweeps where they would find if you changed the device on the sim chip. Can you give me the details on how you did that?

I don't know how it works myself, but if I switch my SIM into any other phones my AT&T account shows the phone change very soon afterwards.
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CaelanT said:
I don't know how it works myself, but if I switch my SIM into any other phones my AT&T account shows the phone change very soon afterwards.
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The change meaning a text telling you to revert back to a "qualified 4g plan"?

CaelanT said:
I don't know how it works myself, but if I switch my SIM into any other phones my AT&T account shows the phone change very soon afterwards.
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You can do it with any gsm blackberry. Make sur you get a new aim card for the phone and put it on a blackberry plan. Then put that sim in your android phone. That simple.. For me anyway..
Now I'm on bell with an ATT phone, so bell don't recognize it. It still says blackberry bold in my bell account. But I got my brother to do it and he had a bell phone, so his bell account did pick it up and he still hasn't gotten charged for any data. We tracked our data the last 2 months. The account don't pick up any usage at all. Bell has yet to contact him for having the wrong plan.
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The change meaning a text telling you to revert back to a "qualified 4g plan"?
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It seems different providers may have different ways of handling this. Bell may just be too dumb to know the difference. Seems crazy to be that simple
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SolidHelix said:
It seems different providers may have different ways of handling this. Bell may just be too dumb to know the difference. Seems crazy to be that simple
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OH, maybe that's why. I was talking about att. Oh well. thanks anyway!

I have unlimited anyway, so it doesn't matter for me. Just interested in the subject.
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The supervisor is only needed to add the 20 dollar data plan. Once that plan is on, any csr can change it to the 30 dollar unlimited. I do it at least once a day.
Once any unlimited data plan is on, the billing system shows us all of the data plans available for that imei, 4g or not.
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HSDPPB is "Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device."
Once you have the iPhone unlimited data plan in place, any customer service supervisor should be able to change your data plan to HSDPPB because the iPhone unlimited plan is on the "gold list" of data plans necessary to be able to get HSDPPB. If the first rep you get says they can't do it, just ask to speak to his or her supervisor.
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ujmnz said:
The supervisor is only needed to add the 20 dollar data plan. Once that plan is on, any csr can change it to the 30 dollar unlimited. I do it at least once a day.
Once any unlimited data plan is on, the billing system shows us all of the data plans available for that imei, 4g or not.
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Not every unlimited data plan can easily be switched to HSDPPB unlimited. I had an old "SmartPhone Connect Unlimited" $20 data plan that pre-dated the iPhone. The data plan code was BNUN. It took me about 8 customer service phone calls, including 3 with supervisors, and ultimately approval and action by a senior level manager to get it switched to an unlimited 4G plan, because the billing system did not have that old plan listed in the system as one on the "gold list" eligible for HSDPPB. I had even tried going into an AT&T store to get the plan switched, and the rep showed me the system screen which did not have the option of making that switch.
My point is, in some cases you really do need to kick things up the chain of command to get it done.