Just wanna let you guys know during google io today. When they were talking about 2.4 ice cream sandwich.The xperia play was shown to be one of the device to get the update!!
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V cool
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Does the xperia play qualify for that 18 months upgrade thing?
Would be awesome if we where a launche product.
*Sigh* And you believe the national oligopolies called "phone carriers" will agree with giving those timely updates?
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*Sigh* And you believe the national oligopolies called "phone carriers" will agree with giving those timely updates?
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not all of us have branded phones, thats why i refuse to go on a contract and saved up to buy a factory unlocked version off ebay
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not all of us have branded phones, thats why i refuse to go on a contract and saved up to buy a factory unlocked version off ebay
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Ya really I bought a branded phone and I wasted no time DEbranding it now I can't wait for all the updates that are sure to come much sooner than having rogers getting around to it
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If it debranded wouldnt it register as r008i instead of r008a? I thought r008a means rogers
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They were just using the Xperia Play as an example of the diverse device ecosystem that is Android, NOT on a list of what devices will receive Ice Cream Sandwich.
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If it debranded wouldnt it register as r008i instead of r008a? I thought r008a means rogers
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Im not sure why its like that but this is what I got now
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Ya really I bought a branded phone and I wasted no time DEbranding it now I can't wait for all the updates that are sure to come much sooner than having rogers getting around to it
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How did you de-brand it?
I paid for it check out www.davinciteam.com
yo yo emann56 you got to have 10 credits for that
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I paid for it check out www.davinciteam.com
yo yo emann56 you got to have 10 credits for that
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I dont understand the point of wasting money debranding it, your phone is still unlockeable from bootloader, and if we are based on the same terms, its likely that off any direct updates that factory unlocked phones will have.
A debranding on a carriers phone is only a makeup, but will not affect in any way SE updates or changes, because they are likely based on your IMEI
I just realized, I think that image is misleading I mean the HTC EVO and Droid 2 and even that cheap LG thing. I don't think they are getting icecream they don't even have android 2.3.
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I dont understand the point of wasting money debranding it, your phone is still unlockeable from bootloader, and if we are based on the same terms, its likely that off any direct updates that factory unlocked phones will have.
A debranding on a carriers phone is only a makeup, but will not affect in any way SE updates or changes, because they are likely based on your IMEI
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who really gives a **** about unlocking bootloader now there is nothing out there yet i did it just to get completely away from rogers bull**** and plus its only 15 bucks to give a try which i dont really care about.....but maybe you do
Just got the info that Xperia X10 will get gingerbread so why Xperia play wouldn't get ICS...
Of course it will
Remember defragmenting android and globalization tools, apps and games for any device!
All that to **** Apple Isucks
I'm a distrubutor and according to my sources in SE, they will update to ice cream - both neo, play and arc.
It's said that they won't do the silly mistake again in not having the newest os available to newer modells. (x10/mini/pro - 1.6)
in the OP picture, the Play was shown to illustrate the fact that there a variety of devices running different versions of android on different hardware, enforcing the necessity of one single version of the android API's to simplify development and reduce fragmentation.
There is no promise of ICS.
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I paid for it check out www.davinciteam.com
yo yo emann56 you got to have 10 credits for that
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You payed for someone to flash your phone, something you can safely do yourself for free ???
I hope you mean sim unlock
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You payed for someone to flash your phone, something you can safely do yourself for free ???
I hope you mean sim unlock
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dont be confused its not for you to worry about, you just go ahead anfd flash your phone with the free FW's and watch how fast you break it
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I emailed se customer support with various questions and reply below in screen shot.
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Erm..... Read a bit in Xperia X8 General - we already had this a few times....
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Erm..... Read a bit in Xperia X8 General - we already had this a few times....
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Oh the only one I could find is in polish. Well I just uploaded screenshot in English which is what they emailed me back. I'm really disappointed though as x8 is capable of alot. More than se give us. Real shame.
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But we have custom Floyo (and other roms) and soon a dualtouch/multitouch because bootloader gets cracked (<-I hope xD)
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But we have custom Floyo (and other roms) and soon a dualtouch/multitouch because bootloader gets cracked (<-I hope xD)
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I know I use mini-cm personally I think its great. I love x8 compared to my old wildfire. I really hope we get dt/mt so many games I want to play
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I emailed se customer support with various questions and reply below in screen shot.
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Sony's devs SUCK..Bigtime...It looks like XDA is going to make us software and also, crack that bootloader...Never gonna buy from sony....SHAME SONY, Cheers XDA
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Sony's devs SUCK..Bigtime...It looks like XDA is going to make us software and also, crack that bootloader...Never gonna buy from sony....SHAME SONY, Cheers XDA
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They said they would keep updating 2.1 but its so out of date what's the point. I would be satisfied with multi touch or dual touch but no! This is my first se for a while, and the only thing stopping me going back to my HTC wildfire is that x8 has better screen res, gpu and CPU
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Fuc&*%, thats bool****...
This can be read easier...
@greatapo... lol, +1 to what you said
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Fuc&*%, thats bool****...
This can be read easier...
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Sorry forgot to rotate it. Saved me a job thanks
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"X8 was made as a single touch phone and it will stay like this"...WTF??? What is it a tradition and they don't want to change it??? They have nothing to say... they only want money, they want us to buy their new phones with...oh my god... they will have multi touch!!!! Fuc*%^ers... SE has some nice phones. That's the only thing it has....
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"X8 was made as a single touch phone and it will stay like this"...WTF??? What is it a tradition and they don't want to change it??? They have nothing to say... they only want money, they want us to buy their new phones with...oh my god... they will have multi touch!!!! Fuc*%^ers... SE has some nice phones. That's the only thing it has....
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I replied and asked why they won't support either 2.2 froyo or mt/dt and awaiting response.
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Well all we can do now is reply to "No multiouch/no Froyo" e-mails with links to Gingerbread and multitouch driver development thread...
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Well all we can do now is reply to "No multiouch/no Froyo" e-mails with links to Gingerbread and multitouch driver development thread...
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It still wouldn't make them listen, once they have sold the product they don't care period. Look how long it took them to bring 2.1 eclair to x8
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It still wouldn't make them listen, once they have sold the product they don't care period. Look how long it took them to bring 2.1 eclair to x8
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I agree, that wouldn't force them to make official MT/Froyo updates but at least we can laugh in their face because we have something they don't want us to have on our phones and they can't do anything...
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I agree, that wouldn't force them to make official MT/Froyo updates but at least we can laugh in their face because we have something they don't want us to have on our phones and they can't do anything...
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well, i think SE want to lure the xda devs to crack the bootloader, so they can sue the devs, just like geohot.
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It still wouldn't make them listen, once they have sold the product they don't care period. Look how long it took them to bring 2.1 eclair to x8
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well i think its for us, the customer, because they dont want a buggy rom to be used by us, so they research the bugs in the new firmware for a long time. CMIIW
HTC gave up on updateing small HTC Tattoo long time ago, and now there is alot of GREAT roms that works way better then original HTC Sence rom. Froyo and Gingerbread. Hope that same thing would happen to X8 and we'll see few great roms based on Froyo or Gingerbread.
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well i think its for us, the customer, because they dont want a buggy rom to be used by us, so they research the bugs in the new firmware for a long time. CMIIW
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There is no reason not for them to make froyo for x8 other less powerfull hardware has had it a long time, se just can't be bothered. Look at mini-cm, floyo they run fine, yes they have bugs but remember they are ports from different handsets
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we've allready knew it lol ...but the X8 developer would make hard work for it
UPDATE
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 15th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN and you can see updates on my blog at http://goo.gl/KdpFr
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It is an nice intiative, but as already stated in other toppics, htc will for sure not unlock there bootloaders. It is just this what the economy is driving on: everyone has to buy new things as much as possible. It can be done in two ways: by making a crapy device or by constanly bringing out new devices. And since the first option will make people angry and go to other manufactures, the only thing left is to make sure that every device gets outdated. And thus to lock the bootloader.
But I signed the petition anyway, perhaps it will make them go searching for other options to make money.
Erwin
Well let's hope this can be as big as the Motorola one
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we can ask anyone to not to buy htc products for a while haha...
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we can ask anyone to not to buy htc products for a while haha...
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You're not afraid to get laught at aren't you ?
Well, I'm for sure not buying any locked HTC crap anymore.
+1 signed.
this is really a nice idea. But may not be successful unless if it affects the htc market.
Please share this - the more signatures the better
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Signed! - With locked bootloaders, the best phone maker may as well be making paperweights!
Signed
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+1 signed...
edit: never mind...
edit: pls add some description on the thread itself.
would do but havent had time - may do over long weekend. if anyone would like to write one feel free and i may use it
+ 1 signed
For those wanting it here is the logo I made in fireworks
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Bump we need more sigs
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"Most consumer complaint websites just talk the talk. We take real action for you. If this groubal receives enough signatures, we will take the complaint directly to the business on your behalf and demand action."
i really cant see this having ANY effect what so ever in my opinion, its gonna take at least a few thousand signatures before any thought of action will be taken, 52 signatures is laughable really. A new an better budget smart phone will be available by the time this is through and the Wildfire will be obsolete.
The reason i used that one is that the motorola one was on that site and that one did work
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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather interesting -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC< Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable.
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It's about time Google fixes this problem
Enough talking and on with the action Google. Proceed to punching T-Mobile in the nuts for their lazy ass.
Oh and Segnaro; HTC<Samsung
I hope that really happens...
I hope that really happens...
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It's Google, so it will happen.
All Google IO attendees are getting Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 God damn it. I knew I should have come.
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details are pretty scarce from what i've seen. What i want to know is if this is retroactive, and haw far back it applies?
but it does not say anything about how long the update will be pushed after release isnt it?
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but it does not say anything about how long the update will be pushed after release isnt it?
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18 months I believe
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18 months I believe
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18 months is the period in which an android device will get that promised regular update and support. Obviously.
I'll believe it when i see Vibrant GB source on my desktop
Best announcement of the Google I/O would be if they announced that Samsung is pushing GB to all Galaxy S phones.
I want this announcement. D:
Now the question is: Does this announcement apply to phone that are already released and sold. ex. Vibrant.
Now the question is: Does this announcement apply to phone that are already released and sold. ex. Vibrant.
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As long as the hardware allows it it will happen. We don't know if vibrant can handle the ice cream sandwich.
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still nothing about any sort of timeline or retro-active support.
would be GREAT if done correctly.
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As long as the hardware allows it it will happen. We don't know if vibrant can handle the ice cream sandwich.
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Well, at least Samsung can't say our hardware doesn't support GB, since their international version has it (i9000).
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Well, at least Samsung can't say our hardware doesn't support GB, since their international version has it (i9000).
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Yup, Vibrant can handle GB of course. Don't know about the ICS.
thts great news!! lets hope it happens and it sticks
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Yup, Vibrant can handle GB of course. Don't know about the ICS.
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ICS probably will need specs that are like the SGS2. So don't be surprised if we don't get ICS, but I'll be happy with GB, since Samsung has to update it.
yayyyyy 18 months left before we get GB now thats a direct date!
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ICS probably will need specs that are like the SGS2. So don't be surprised if we don't get ICS, but I'll be happy with GB, since Samsung has to update it.
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I wouldn't be too sure of that. The Nexus S is using the same SoC as the Vibrant and google is going to pass at least one major update to it, Ice Cream Sandwich. Plus our GPU is powerful enough to supply the holographic UI.
Look at the N8 for example. The CPU is weak but the GPU can still nicely support the UI along with no lag.
If Nexus S gets ICS and we don't.
I'm going to Samsung's store and saying HERE i dont want your phone and go back home and pick up some other great phone of that time.
their the same damn phones, both should get the same treatment, no?
www.talkandroid.com/68012-ics-in-the-works-for-the-xperia-line/
It's not too early to say that SE 's poor customer support days are over. They are working on ICS updates to their single core devices already. I am sure we've already been really satisfied with the bundle of updates being rolled up by SE, but this is incredibly good news.
Also added from the other thread.
http://m.engadget.com/default/article.do?artUrl=http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/&category=classic&postPage=1
Please stop posting old news about the updates. SE confirmed that they will start working on ICS After the source code was released.
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i honestly wasnt expecting ICS for SEX devices
I'm still mad about the face unlock thing. No James Bond retinal scan? Lame.
Good news though. It's about time SE got with it.
Awesome, Really gives me confidence that SE is not that bad after all, Never been a fan of using another ROM, As I love Sony Ericsson's, I will use another ROM once the Xperia Play is no longer updated or supported by SE which I hope never happens while I use an Xperia Play as my primary device.
I always had confidence in SE. <3 this company and their phone. Now, if only we could get it as stock ICS and not with their UXL overlay. Maybe with ICS it'll be much better looking, have to wait and see
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It's not too early to say that SE 's poor customer support days are over. They are working on ICS updates to their single core devices already. I am sure we've already been really satisfied with the bundle of updates being rolled up by SE, but this is incredibly good news.
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Which probably means Verizon Plays wont get ICS till 2014.
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i honestly wasnt expecting ICS for SEX devices
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It will be google pushing ICS, they will want most top end phones on ICS so they can start ending support for older OS version
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Which probably means Verizon Plays wont get ICS till 2014.
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Verizon version came as vanilla gingerbread so we might even get it sooner. Late 2013 or so seems about right!
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Yes, SE were very quick to release a statement about this.
Asus have also said that they will be upgrading the Transformer to ICS. This is all a lot different from when Honeycomb was released.
is this avaliable only in november?
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is this avaliable only in november?
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I would say December maybe, Maybe Jan 2012
I'm still waiting for an ota on the latest build, UK generic.
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From using Google the best I can work out is that in a Dutch language blog SE Netherlands said that they will be upgrading all the 2011 Xperia phone to ICS.
However, SE told Slashgear that no decision has been made
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...o-bring-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-devices/
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From using Google the best I can work out is that in a Dutch language blog SE Netherlands said that they will be upgrading all the 2011 Xperia phone to ICS.
However, SE told Slashgear that no decision has been made
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...o-bring-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-devices/
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My article was posted and confirmed a few days ago. They announced it after the launch of ics. Please don't link an article from almost two months ago saying it's not confirmed.
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My article was posted and confirmed a few days ago. They announced it after the launch of ics. Please don't link an article from almost two months ago saying it's not confirmed.
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I accept my timing error but I will link whatever article I think is relevant
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I accept my timing error but I will link whatever article I think is relevant
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Your timing error is what made the article irrelevant though. Your outdated article greatly contradicts the new one that SE made ... making people believe that there is no such ICS update when really SE confirmed the updates after the launch of ICS source codes.
It's like positing an article about the Samsung Galaxy Nexus telling people it's a 8mp camera and not 5mp but using a 2 month old article as reference....
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well played HTC, well played ...
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well played HTC, well played ...
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Quote!
I think that the next will be Sensation's series with Jelly bean!
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I think that the next will be Sensation's series with Jelly bean!
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you bet lots of dissapointments lately
Ohhhh the irony!!!! The Desire HD/Z were the devices that launched their htcsense.com service, a service that could backup all of the personal data on your phone into the cloud. Earlier this year they shut said service down and this has resulted in the death of the ICS update. They were born together and they died together. Very poetic or something...
My next phone will not be HTC made!!!
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I love HTC's hardware and design, but they screwing up the software side more and more. Can't they just release a 3.0 kernel for DHD for developers? I mean they're multi-billion dollar companies and can't even spend a few thousands to develop a 3.0 kernel? We have developers doing the same thing in their free time here . . .
I wouldn't have been this sour if they didn't say "We will release ICS for DHD next year" and went "Oh no, we won't, why? Because **** you that's why.". My next phone will be a Google phone and it will probably come from Samsung.
Bye bye HTC. Nothing more to say.
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I love HTC's hardware and design, but they screwing up the software side more and more. Can't they just release a 3.0 kernel for DHD for developers? I mean they're multi-billion dollar companies and can't even spend a few thousands to develop a 3.0 kernel? We have developers doing the same thing in their free time here . . .
I wouldn't have been this sour if they didn't say "We will release ICS for DHD next year" and went "Oh no, we won't, why? Because **** you that's why.". My next phone will be a Google phone and it will probably come from Samsung.
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They've already spent a bunch of time and money on it. They need to just "accidentally" leak their source as is. That's free.
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halfmanhalfmachine said:
Ohhhh the irony!!!! The Desire HD/Z were the devices that launched their htcsense.com service, a service that could backup all of the personal data on your phone into the cloud. Earlier this year they shut said service down and this has resulted in the death of the ICS update. They were born together and they died together. Very poetic or something...
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Looks like HTC is started to dying like Nokia or RIM..
Well I was going to get tge latest HTC pgobe in October, now I think I will look elsewhere.
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this is not explanation!
Atleast they can STILL PROVIDE UPDATE
because No one is FORCING U TO UPDATE if u fear to lost the data....
some people dont care about that so just give the update, those ho fear to lose some data, no one is forcing them to update if they fear!!!
Just hand it out to the devs, HTC...
How about they do it like samsung or iPhone via a computer where u can back up all u data and install what ever ics they provide and restore back u data? It's just a lame excuse from them not to do it. Probably its full of bugs and all dhd newer then a year will be returned. My 2 cents
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ogbrandon said:
Just hand it out to the devs, HTC...
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...or just 'casually' leak it, unofficially.
motherninja said:
Looks like HTC is started to dying like Nokia or RIM..
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I personally think the main reason this has happened to HTC is because of the whole Beats crap. Before HTC had an image of well built technically advanced handsets and focusing on the whole Sense thing. Over the last year and a bit this has turned into Beats by Dr Dre and all that kind of nonsense.
Chill guys, put down the pitchforks. We just need source for the Desire S or Incredible S and then it'll be fully working.
"Fitting all that Ice Cream Sandwich into the Desire HD would require repartitioning the internal space, and repartitioning risks overwriting personal content"
I think HTC forgot that we have something call the micoSD card...:silly:
With most apps, photos, videos, personal data can be backup to the micoSD card, how "much" personal content will we risk to lose?
well play HTC well play :good:
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Chill guys, put down the pitchforks. We just need source for the Desire S or Incredible S and then it'll be fully working.
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If you promise me you'll buy me a car and you don't but I manage to build one by myself, should I just say ok no problem?? It's a stupid example, but they said they would release it, so they had to release it.
I personally won't buy anymorew from htc, unless they do something awesome, and they haven't been doing it for the last year, so I have little hope....