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This is under the dev part of the forum because I was going to see if someone could unpack the angrybirds.apk and remove the ad's from the game or if someone could post a early release download before the ad's were implemented. I love this game and I don't want to wait for Rovio to produce a non ad version...anyone?
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AdFree, one of the best apps for a rooted phone.
That is stealing!!! Ads are there to supports the developers hard work! They deserve to make money and honestly they are even letting you download it for free, so either you wait until there is a paid version or just dont play at all.
You can just put your phone in airplane mode and the ads won't pop up.
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AdFree, one of the best apps for a rooted phone.
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Thanks that works great
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That is stealing!!! Ads are there to supports the developers hard work! They deserve to make money and honestly they are even letting you download it for free, so either you wait until there is a paid version or just dont play at all.
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You consider that stealing?....not really since they released the game without ads and then made ads for people to click on which I will never do and if you wanted to really think about "stealing" consider yourself a thief since you hacked your phone and are using apps that aren't approved from the manufacturer and running "illegal apps"...so w/e dude..I've been downloading music and apps off sharing websites like rapidshare since I was like 12 dude...they are stealing from us. These things shouldn't cost as much as they do ie: windows os and microsoft office its just ridiculous and everything else in the world and if that's what you think, like I already said you shouldn't root your phone.
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Regardless, I dont think its legal for this forum.
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You consider that stealing?....not really since they released the game without ads and then made ads for people to click on which I will never do and if you wanted to really think about "stealing" consider yourself a thief since you hacked your phone and are using apps that aren't approved from the manufacturer and running "illegal apps"...so w/e dude..I've been downloading music and apps off sharing websites like rapidshare since I was like 12 dude...they are stealing from us. These things shouldn't cost as much as they do ie: windows os and microsoft office its just ridiculous and everything else in the world and if that's what you think, like I already said you shouldn't root your phone.
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You're not furthering any cause by being cheap. Also rooting one's phone is not piracy. Voiding your warranty won't land you in jail.
Didn't mean to cause such an uproar. The only reason I mention adfree is because you can download it straight from the market. And no you are not stealing the game is free. Period. Like someone said putting your phone into airplane mode gives you the same effect. I am not taking anything from the devs if there is no paid version alternate.
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Cnet just put up a review of the Motorola Atrix, one of the most anticipated smart-phones. AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps . "You can't install third-party apps" and goes on to say "No change of heart on third-party applications, as that feature is disabled on the Atrix."
Google's(andy rubin) response is to say let me market decide. I truly agree with this statement but when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work. General consumers dont know know the difference between android phones. Consumer assume since they are getting an android phone, all android phones are the same. This blocking of 3rd party apps creates a bad user experience and users will blame android and not the carriers.
( http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-atrix-4g-at/4505-6452_7-34468396.html?tag=rvwBody )
Moved to Atrix General
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ITA.
Looking on the slighter brighter side, CNET also said this (emphasis added):
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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It's not enough, but it's a start.
Side loading apps is such a trivial issue on any device, including devices on AT&T. Root not even required. So for the tiny percentage that want to do this (like rooters) the option is there.
No Third party software? No "FREE" bootloader? No reasonable laptop dock price? It really destroyed the purpose of open-sourced software.....I guess AT&T kills the fun of having an Android phone.....I went from "must have one" to "might have one"...sigh.....
My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
I've been considering switching to a different provider because I find it very expensive to buy unlocked phones just to get them in their enabled state. I know I would lose the flexibility of using the phone around the world, but I don't travel that much.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
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AT&T restricts third-party apps, which means you can download only from the Android Market - which is not AT&T's store, btw.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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As far as I know, AT&T is the only one of the 4 major carriers that blocks 3rd-party apps. As previously mentioned, getting around that restriction is extremely simple and does not require rooting the phone. The Sideload Wonder Machine, for one, is very easy to use.
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
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has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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i know what your saying.but considering this is one of atts top o the line phones minus the bs tethering plan for laptop dock(totally ruined that for me by the way). im just hoping that the bootloader isnt crapped up im gonna wait a little bit on buying this till i know theres a way to custom rom the crap out of this phone so ya thats what im waiting on before i decide i want this phone or not if not owell there will be better ones later on this year im sure so guess we will see how this all works out
note to everyone i like grammatical errors and run-on sentences thats what makes life fun
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AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
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No kidding. Do you really need to get your panties in a wad about sideloading? That's like complaining that it doesn't come rooted from the factory.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
i agree it shouldn't be an issue, it is and its an easy fix so I don't worry about it. Efuse is a bigger issue to development that this. If it does have efuse I won't buy it out of principal and I'll get an inspire.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
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Agreed. Anyone who wants to sideload can figure it out. Its probably the easiest hack you could possibly do on your Android phone.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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And the Cappy always needs more! Here's to hoping the Atrix doesn't.
At least in the performance realm, it doesn't seem too need much help from hacks. Although I'm looking forward to seeing what can be accomplished...
This phone is a powerful machine to begin with. I will be happy once I can root just to delete any bloatware that I can't delete out the box. Sideloading will be nice too..
I just don't like the Motorola interface, launcher pro will be my first install..
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I have decided pass on the Atrix due to pricing tech concerns. I am looking forward to the samsung i9100.
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sooooooo all this talk of vz limiting & suspending accounts due to data usages & this new "rooted phones hunter" from vz & moto talk...
has anyones account been limited? or are there any official news articles or actual announcements from vz or moto on the web?
just curious
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As to my knowledge, the only tethering app they can track is the 3G Mobile Hotspot app preinstalled into your phone. There is a hack that allows people to tether using that app for free.
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I've seen throttling but that's all. Nothing else yet.
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havent seen or heard anything
have no doubt eventually the possibility exists....doubt the sky is falling though....
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news with a reputable source sure would be appreciated....
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As to my knowledge, the only tethering app they can track is the 3G Mobile Hotspot app preinstalled into your phone. There is a hack that allows people to tether using that app for free.
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I"m pretty sure that any type of tethering will get you in trouble from what a lot of P3droid's writing states... Esp. since google can remote wipe/remove apps from your phone...I would assume carriers have some insight as well to what a customer is using.
Google's insight is from what you've downloaded from the market I believe. I still can't believe how blown out of proportion this rumor has become.
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sooooooo all this talk of vz limiting & suspending accounts due to data usages & this new "rooted phones hunter" from vz & moto talk...
has anyones account been limited? or are there any official news articles or actual announcements from vz or moto on the web?
just curious
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There is already one thread about this topic don't need two
sorry didn't see the other thread... but how can they track an unrooted easytether app vs. the rooted wireless tether app? I don't doubt eventually one day this will all be true but I still think they have better things to do than to hunt rooted phone users down...
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You guys apps have nothing to do with it, you can download tethering apps, they just don't work, therefore they cannot bust you on this.
What they will bust you on is the IPs you are accessing, easy ones will be like Windows Updates servers, firewall/anti virus update servers, Steam will be another big one...
There is IPs that you will be accessing on your PC that some of you guys can't deny will be definitive proof you are tethering, and I guarantee as hard as you try they will always have a way of figuring it out and there is nothing you can do, its a service you are required to pay for and they are going to make you pay for it.
see that's coming at it from a different angle & I totally get that... but I paid for easy tether & I'm not rooted I use it on my personal com... & it works perfect I just think that if there was a true issue w/tethering why not remove easytether or pdanet from the marketplace? just my 2¢
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and I know someones going to say something along lines the lines of its a google vs. vz issue... well then if vz starts blocking apps I think there would be an issue w/google...
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see that's coming at it from a different angle & I totally get that... but I paid for easy tether & I'm not rooted I use it on my personal com... & it works perfect I just think that if there was a true issue w/tethering why not remove easytether or pdanet from the marketplace? just my 2¢
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They cannot do this because no matter what Verizon, or any other carrier for that matter, wants us to pay for or does not want on the market, it is not their market. The market is controlled by Google and they will only remove apps that go against their policies.
Anyway we should all be aware that the android market is not the only source of apps for android. There is the Amazon market which certainly has different rules that Google's market, and there is Applanet which simply does not have rules or at least none that would keep tethering apps out (or a large quantity of others either). Also, the developers could simply post the apps on their website if removed. Therefore it would not be at all effective to remove them from the market
for once I agree w/jmoney... and we have yet to see evidence of any account suspensions our cancellations due to tethering... still waiting on some proof & tired of all the "talk" of this rooted hunting sprees...
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What I have heard is that Verizon is not going after rooted users and to my knowledge are still taking the same stand against rooters as they have in the past. What they are going after are the people who use tethering without a tethering plan. They are only doing this because there are certain members of this community who use tethering for obscene amounts of data. These are the people who use 150gb or more a month and yes there are people who do that.
We need to remember that just because we can tether large amounts of data does not mean that we should. I saw the following analogy on an article online and I think it is an excellent way to think of this.
If you are in a supermarket and you notice that they are giving out free samples of something, there are two things you can do. You can just take one and everyone else can have one and there is no problem at all and they will continue to allow the free samples. Or, you could, since it is all free, take all of the samples for yourself and no one else will get any, and the store will stop providing them and everyone loses because you were greedy.
If we all just use a small amount a month, I'm very sure that there will be no problem with the carrier and we all can enjoy the exeperience
only had my DVP for a day and its my first windows phone.....
i have subscribed to the zune service paying each month for the service...i thought this would give me the eqivilant to spotify that i had on my android device However, when i click on albums to either stream or download (from the handset) it asks me if i want to buy...i thought i was paying a subscription for free unlimited streaming or download same as spotify.
can anyone advise me please
also is it possible to get spotify on my phone
thanks
I think you have to tap and hold on the album/song to get a download option, here's a video: http://www.wpcentral.com/how-get-zune-pass-work-on-the-go-windows-phone-7.
As for Spotify, that was announced as coming with Mango but not sure which countries.
When I hold the only option I get is to buy the item. Seems odd considering I am paying for it.
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When I hold the only option I get is to buy the item. Seems odd considering I am paying for it.
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Did you watch the video? That didnt work?
Could not seem to view it on my phone :-/
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I wonder if its a subscription issue as I can't play tracks also, all I get is the first 30 secs
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That sounds like your zune pass subscription is not active. Are you logged in with the email associated with your Zune pass?
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I wonder if its a subscription issue as I can't play tracks also, all I get is the first 30 secs
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When you setup your phone, the login must be the same one used for Zune. Not the second or third...the first.
If you have done it any other way you must hard reset and start over.
If the phone login is the same as your Zune login and it does not work, call Zune support to help you.
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When you setup your phone, the login must be the same one used for Zune. Not the second or third...the first.
If you have done it any other way you must hard reset and start over.
If the phone login is the same as your Zune login and it does not work, call Zune support to help you.
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thanks for your help
the problem was that i had signed into zune on my phone with a different account to the one on my computer.
very annoying though that the only way to resolve it was to completley format the phone and start over again....lucky i guess that i have only had it a few days.
thanks to all of you who had helped me to sort it though.
i am sure there maybe a few other questions i need help with also..
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thanks for your help
the problem was that i had signed into zune on my phone with a different account to the one on my computer.
very annoying though that the only way to resolve it was to completley format the phone and start over again....lucky i guess that i have only had it a few days.
thanks to all of you who had helped me to sort it though.
i am sure there maybe a few other questions i need help with also..
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Annoying? This is the way it has been since day one. Its mentioned in the startup guide. Efjay pointed you to the video. All the MS documents online point to this. All the Zune docs point to this. For problems of this nature, how to's, keep WindowsPhone.com in mind. Phone setup, configurations snd how to documentation is great. XDA is great for the more difficult problems.
Sorry for raising a thread on what was clearly quite 'simple' issue to some...it was annoying the gell out of me! I pay as a 'premium' user on here and wanted to make use of all the great knowledge on here rather than trawl the internet or spend hours on the phone. I will however come up with a more challenging problem fir you next time=P
Thanks anyway
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Sorry for raising a thread on what was clearly quite 'simple' issue to some...it was annoying the gell out of me! I pay as a 'premium' user on here and wanted to make use of all the great knowledge on here rather than trawl the internet or spend hours on the phone. I will however come up with a more challenging problem fir you next time=P
Thanks anyway
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Don't be like that. Annoying and Challenging are 2 different things. XDA is a great source of issues, resolutions, work arounds, and challenging problems. On XDA you will find great ideas, fun experiences, and, a sound kick in the butt if you don't do your research before posting a problem. If you search and do NOT find what you're looking for, there are dozens of people ready to help. But....if you do not do the search before posting....there are dozens of people ready to remind you of that before they help.
Thats just the way it is...and it makes no difference if you're a premium user, or just a bum like me. The same rule applies for us all.
How MS, or any other company, designs their solutions, is always open to debate. Annoying and irritating simply cloud the issue. Android and Apple require a login on their phone for their services. If you do not use the same or correct login, you will not get your apps restored, or access to many of the histories saved with those services....to include backup and restore, and Music. Thats just the way it is. XDA premium users have little influence on those design methods.
Sorry if I offended you with my reply. That was not my intent. Reminding you that a little research would have allowed you to find the answer, and see that the resolution was not clouded, hidden, or designed to cost you a premium subscription to XDA, was my only point. If you're annoyed at the way things are...I'm afraid there is not a reasonable resolution available on these forums.
BTW..how does one become a premium subscriber to XDA?
your response seemed a little 'sharp' and in my opinion was not really necessary...i received good advice on here, it solved my problem, and i thanked those concerned.
By 'premium' i mean i pay for the app to support the cause and not just use the free downloaded one
Anyways moving on....
Point made.
@alodar1 using the XDA Premium app from my G2x
sorry, I'm using zune paying
I just saw this news and I am floored by this. I am a firm believer in my right to privacy and this is just absurd.
http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-and...u-do?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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No. Only affects US carrier-supplied phones from what I've read elsewhere.
If you bought the phone outright and it's loaded with non-carrier branded firmware you wouldn't be affected.
I haven't used a carrier-supplied phone (esp one that wasn't wiped with a custom rom) for years so I can't comment if such practices are also common by Operators in countries other than the US.
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I just saw this news and I am floored by this. I am a firm believer in my right to privacy and this is just absurd.
http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-and...u-do?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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That's disgraceful.
I hope the mainstream press makes a fuss about it.
I couldn't believe it when I read about this and watched the video this morning. First thing I did was check if it was on my Note. Thankfully not!
Wow thats worse than apple
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Currently 141 MILLION and a third phones on their Carrier IQ network??? OMG
Let them look. I've got nothing to hide!!
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Let them look. I've got nothing to hide!!
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That is your first mistake.
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Well there is some evidence its on samsung devices as epic 4g as its HTC made. Now reports are it was included in 3.1.3 iOS but disabled only working in debug mode. Now I wonder if its just a debug mode thing since in order to capture we need debug. Also worried its called something else on the phones. What's tracker in our apps??? I'm not fresh loaded but maybe someone else can research now that this cat is out of the bag.
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Can someone here who is rooted and running the original Note firmware install the Logging Test app and check if CIQ is on the Note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
edit: It looks like CIQ is not installed on the Note.
Guys before u take up arms just think about all the apps that you install.
Most, if not all have access to your personal info.
I am sure every carrier will use the info to do study how the general popluation is doing ( not true always though ) but what about the the people who get all ur contacts and email info...
If u use internet , forget about all privacy... its not there anymore
Really? Have you even read what's going on, and watched TrevE's video? The thing here is that we can't opt-out, we didn't know that CIQ did this, the logs are not encrypted and it also logs your web history and passwords.
If you are OK with this i feel sorry for you. This is spying.
But again, it doesn't look like the Note has this.
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Really? Have you even read what's going on, and watched TrevE's video? The thing here is that we can't opt-out, we didn't know that CIQ did this, the logs are not encrypted and it also logs your web history and passwords.
If you are OK with this i feel sorry for you. This is spying.
But again, it doesn't look like the Note has this.
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We are right to be concerned. If you don't speak up about privacy concerns, even when they don't directly affect you, then we will come to a time when these types of apps and disregard for personal privacy are so prevalent that there will be nothing we can do.
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Homeland Security...
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Wow thats worse than apple
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how so? It was in iOS and Apple has a much better control over their firmware than any other manufacturers who bend over backwards to US carriers.
Also read what apple said carefully.
We stopped supporting CarrierIQ with iOS 5 in most of our products and will remove it completely in a future software update. With any diagnostic data sent to Apple, customers must actively opt-in to share this information, and if they do, the data is sent in an anonymous and encrypted form and does not include any personal information. We never recorded keystrokes, messages or any other personal information for diagnostic data and have no plans to ever do so.
what the hell does it mean by "most" and does this mean all iOS4 devices will have carrier IQ builtin?
I'm pretty disgusted by this Carrier IQ. Whether they do or do not review the information but they have no right to collect personal information without our consent
iPhone 4 still running Carrier IQ:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-4-but-we-dont-read-your-e-mail-and-texts.ars
It really comes down to the carrier is where our privacy is dug into by the contract we sign. I do not agree about this and will only buy in contract phones or switch to ios in the future. Shame on the carriers!
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This seems a fairly balanced article (surprisingly from CNN):
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/01/technology/carrier_iq/index.htm
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A good reader comment from the Washington Post:
Do you perform online banking on your mobile device? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your Login ID and Password despite being securely protected via HTTPS.
Do you carry your mobile device everywhere you go? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned where you family lives, where you work, where your daughter or son goes to school, where your relatives live during the holidays, and where you take your daughter or son to the park, etc..
Do you share your private and secret information through text messages across your spouse, your son or your daughter? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned all about them and you thought no one else would ever know.
Do you use secured data storage apps on your mobile phone? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your social security numbers, all bank account numbers, all credit card numbers, secret security codes, and all your login IDs and Passwords you use for work and at home. They also know the server location or name and know how long they have left before your passwords expire.
Do you store all the contact numbers of your family members and relatives on your mobile device? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your spouses contact number for both mobile and work, your daughter's or your son's number, your grandfather's or grandmothers, your sisters and brothers, your office mates, your employer, and everyone else you've entered into your mobile device.
Now, can you imagine the kinds of illegal and unlawful activities this kind of power and information can do to harm you, your family, your children, your employer, your coworkers, your loved ones simply by using social engineering methods to connect the dots to find all of your weak spots and personal vulnerabilities?
So when Apple says they stopped suppirtung in most iOS 5 products is that because its not installed on ipod nanos and touches...just the iphone 4 and 4s...right? See i think they were very sneaky with their wording... Its not like they said its installed on this this and this, is it.
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The Verge have a great Story stream page on Carrier IQ for anyone interested in a general overview or dig deep on this topic.
personally I found it unacceptable to have a key logger rootkit installed on my smart phone. I use my phone to do online purchases, access my work emails and check my bank accounts.
I'd not buy a computer with rootkit installed, so should a smart phone perform similar functions be any different.
Carrier IQ so far have not answered even the basic questions of what information is being tracked, how the information is stored and if our personal information is being kept safe.