Hi everyone!
I'm using some different android devices (Xperia X10, Galaxy S, HTC HD2, Motorola Milestone), and I noticed the HD2 was the SLOWEST of them, when playing games!
I'm usually playing some different games to try the device or specific ROM speed, usually it's Gangstar Miami Vice (this game needs a lot of power, then..)
And I wonder why my HD2 takes so much time to boot up the game, and why so many lag ingame (even with same microSD than my other devices!)..
Is it because of the ROM ? The recovery (partition layer)? (does the 150/250/400M changes some power?) Or I wonder what else..?
Thanks for your answers!
im guessing its the 'faulty' graphic drivers from htc dating back in the winmo days...
it may be something else though...
by the way, wrong section
Maybe I'm wrong, but is the gaming on WP7 not faster than Android?
Are not there other guys like me that have tried games on Android and think it's very slow??
Up, please!
I really would like to enjoy a efficient speed on my HD2. . =D
keep waiting and be patient... the devs are still working hard to port the phone to android, its not completed, yet
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zebra363 said:
Up, please!
I really would like to enjoy a efficient speed on my HD2. . =D
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Try overclocking your device. It does a trick with my phone.
hm my hd2 is realy fast and the actually roms are very nice too...
I don't know but just some examples:
When playing any games (Need for Speed Shift, Miami Vindication, Bruce Lee, Worms, Quake 3,.. ), all games are lagging, sometimes much, sometimes a bit, but always lagging. Some games are even freezing! (Miami Vindication).
Which overclocking software should I use with the HD2 ??
And what data should I enter?
Thanks!
zebra363 said:
I don't know but just some examples:
When playing any games (Need for Speed Shift, Miami Vindication, Bruce Lee, Worms, Quake 3,.. ), all games are lagging, sometimes much, sometimes a bit, but always lagging. Some games are even freezing! (Miami Vindication).
Which overclocking software should I use with the HD2 ??
And what data should I enter?
Thanks!
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Use search.
motionz said:
Use search.
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I used search, optimized to 1200 mhz (using CyanogenMod Options), but it does nothing..
Its still not "smooth" as on my Galaxy S, or iPhone 3GS! So sad
Judging from your results you only checked one result. Search again overclocking. Try some different tags. Most importantly, don't always rely on someone.
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I have tried a few emulators, example snesoid, nesoid, etc ... and all of the games is lagging, just unplayable .... when i don't touch the virtual keypad, or the screen ... all games run almost perfectly ... until the touch ... and the music, the screen starts freezen, lagging :/
i tried to modify setting, but nothing happened :S
I have a rooted wildfire, with setcpu...main max cpu rate: 691 MHz
i think this is enough to play games, like nes, or snes .. or am i wrong?
is that possible the emultors isn't optimizated to this hardwer?!
still sry for my bad english
lazlo
Nah dont think the phone is that powerful.
For me they working quite good, on stock rom, nothing modified
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hmm...thats a shame :/ ... i mean this games are really retro ... other phones has this emulators, and runs great ... example i think every windows mobile phone
i had an HTC Kaiser few years ago, and it ran this games perfectly like Nes or Snes Super Mario, etc without any lagg
Did you tried any of this?! .. nesoid, snesoid?! ... ran it well with CyanogenMod ROM?!
Any other wildfire retro gamer?!
Nesoid, Snesoid and Gensoid all work fine for me
Gurdjieff said:
For me they working quite good, on stock rom, nothing modified
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I've uninstalled setcpu, maybee it cause the problem ... but nothing changed ...
i can't believe it .... that you have the same hungarian, vodafone wildfire, like my ... and here, it isn't working very well :/
interesting
only one difference, i need to flash the kernel to use setcpu ... maybe this couse the problem
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Nesoid, Snesoid and Gensoid all work fine for me
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Good for you
Stock Rom?! ..., nothing modified?!
pazirez said:
Good for you
Stock Rom?! ..., nothing modified?!
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Cyanogenmod, SetCPU @ 710mhz max
Michealtbh said:
Cyanogenmod, SetCPU @ 710mhz max
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Okay, thx the info...
I think i will test Cyanogenmod, maybe it will solve the problem
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I've tested them on cyan, open, Vodafone branded and 1.37 debrand. All was slow and unplayable..
Also tested standard and clocked.
sad times...
*Sent from XDA on my Wildfire*
For me snesoid, nesoid and gameboid all run fine on stock rom with oc kernal nd cpu at 672mhz.I have not tried many games but pokemon ruby fire red and dbz Legacy of goku 3 run fine.
thank you for everyone to share your experiences about emulators
but is anybody have a clue what could be the problem for me and a lots of people?
also i'm looking for the original, stock kernel ... i'd like to test with that ... but nothing found yet
Just a thought, but maybe the lagging issue is to do with the speed of your sd card, since the emulators read the roms from there. I'm using a 4gb class 6 and everything runs fine for me
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Just a thought, but maybe the lagging issue is to do with the speed of your sd card, since the emulators read the roms from there. I'm using a 4gb class 6 and everything runs fine for me
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Yes, maybee .... but i think when i start the emulator, and a game ... the application reads the necesarry datas to the main memory, and it runs from them....not reading all the time from the SD card ....
..like in PC ... when you start a game, or anything else ... the data loading from the hard disk (winchester) to the RAM....
..but it cost nothing, i'll try it, from another SD card
thx the idea
Has anyone used psx4droid on their Desire HD? I can't help but notice choppy response and laggy gameplay, although it seemed to run much better on the desire and galaxy S. Any ideas? Has anyone tried?
The emulator runs horribly terrible for its V2 version, framerate runs at 30-40 fps and occasionally dips to 20ish. V1 1.7 runs much better but still the framerate seems to have more room for improvement.
Ratix0 said:
The emulator runs horribly terrible for its V2 version, framerate runs at 30-40 fps and occasionally dips to 20ish. V1 1.7 runs much better but still the framerate seems to have more room for improvement.
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Totally agree! I experience the the same frame drop.
But in my opinion the problem comes from the roms. I tried dozens of roms, they all make my HD slower, I don't know why.
The first rom 1.32 (when I bought the phone) was the best!
It runs great on mine. Have u got anti alias turn on? I found that Rele slows it down.
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It runs great on mine. Have u got anti alias turn on? I found that Rele slows it down.
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Where is that setting?? I see nothing about AA in options.
For me it runs quite crap aswell. I was looking at videos of other phones and it runs much better on SGS. Maybe it's not optimized for DHD?
Anyway, Fpsece has been announced and it will be released soon. This is a port of a WM6 PS1 emulator which is extremelly good on WM platform and looking at videos, this will be the one to play PS1 games on Android.
Check it out: http://pocketnow.com/android/legendary-fpsece-playstation-emulator-ported-to-android
When I ran the free / lite version, I actually thought it was somewhat playable ... but then I bought the full version and that seems to run very slow .....
Hopefully when we get the Playstation Suite / Store and Sony's official emulator, things will work fine. The Sony Ericsson Xperia Play runs the same Qualcomm CPU / GPU combo as the DHD ....
I also have the same problem, runs very slow.
We won'y have to use psx4droid much longer. A developer has been working on this:
http://pocketnow.com/android/legendary-fpsece-playstation-emulator-ported-to-android
runs pretty well on my DHD, as mentioned earlier turning off anti-aliasing helps alot and overclocking to 1.5ghz helps alot
I've tested this is on FFVII & MGS
runs pretty well on my DHD, as mentioned earlier turning off anti-aliasing helps alot and overclocking to 1.5ghz helps alot
I've tested this is on FFVII & MGS
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Where is this anti-aliasing setting?? I'm using v2 v1.0.8 and I see no such option...
dhiral.v said:
I also have the same problem, runs very slow.
We won'y have to use psx4droid much longer. A developer has been working on this:
http://pocketnow.com/android/legendary-fpsece-playstation-emulator-ported-to-android
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we wont need that when sony releases the playstation suit
AndroHero said:
we wont need that when sony releases the playstation suit
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Yes thats true, but until the playstation suite is actually released, we have to use an alternative.
i tried the v3.0.7 on my dhd with a bichon rom (v3.3). it doesn't run at all ! i tried .bin and .iso image, but nothing works. Is there anything to do ?
So schrtuck is porting his amazing PS1 emulator from WinMo to Android. There are some videos on youtube he posted and it seems to run really really well.
Finally an alternative to the busted PSX4DROID.
I'm pretty excited about it!!!
I'm really excited for this. PSX4DROID is not so good and Fpsce on WM ran really awesome so if this is just as good we can expect to be gaming PS1 games without much hiccups
I've tried contacting sctruck (the dev of FPSE) to ask him if there's a price yet and is it going to be available on the market but no response yet.
Also asking him if it's going to have GPU accel for those of us with a Droid/Milestone.
I have used FPSEce on the HD2, I had it for quite some time and it's superb I have literally just tried FFVII on PSX4DroidV2 on my Desire and it's terrible, it doesn't use the full screen, I can't force the resolution and it runs at about 15 fps despite it saying 50+.
Rollllll on FPSE for Android.
I can't wait for this
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thank goodness.. psx4droid = bad. i remember fpsece on winmo, it was awesome
Just a quick update. Schtruck has stated that A) if android's GPU API works well enough, Cortex A8 based devices (droid/milestone/droid x) are going to perform as well if not better than current gen Snapdragons.
(I might hope that if you're running 2.3 which has a better GPU API, it's going to run even better).
B) It's going to cost 5 bucks or maybe even less.
Any news on when it's arriving?
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B) It's going to cost 5 bucks or maybe even less.
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I'd pay double that if it works as well as it did on WM.
This is going to be super special awesome! Can't wait to see this.
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I'm very excited. I can get FF7 and CC running at 60 fps if I OC my Droid X to 1.25 GHz, but it lags on occasion and I don't like psx4droid's virtual keypad.
Think the save states and memory cards will be compatible?
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I'm not sure about stats, but memory cards should be compatible since psx4droid uses standard memory card files that are also recognized by ps emulators for pc.
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It's out
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Anyone tried this yet?
Feedback?
I haven't tried it yet...but here's the link for those who can't find it.
https://market.android.com/search?q=fpse
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Anyone tried this yet?
Feedback?
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Crash bandicoot 3 works SO much better than it did on PSX4Droid - no freezing bug. I've not tried any other games yet, so if anyone else has used the emulator please tell.
Also, the amount of customisation is brilliant!
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I haven't tried it yet...but here's the link for those who can't find it.
https://market.android.com/search?q=fpse
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The market webstore is brilliant for installing apps you can't see on your phone/tablet.
tried it on hd2 oced, it's super fast Almost no lag at all on crash bandicoot 3 ,with which psx4droid was veeery slow! Now if it wasn't for hd2's known multitouch issues, gameplay would be perfect
Has anyone tried it on a Vibrant/Captative/Galaxy S???
I feel like a big part of some of us getting the Epic was the fact it had an excellent Gpu and would make a great gaming device. Now that its out and we have our froyo, I think its a good time to start a thread about gaming on our phones. I think we should post vids of games running on our phones and share it with the world so they can see how powerful our phones really are. Im going to start getting a bunch of games and recording it, listing whether im overclocked or not and what rom i was running at the time. Feel free to add you own videos and comments
Heres a few to start off with: I will try to update regularly. Im also open to suggestions
Modern Combat 2: Black Pegasus - Midnight rom v5.1 - no overclock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGzkIQZAYoM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOPxQ7UJPl4
Mario 64 running on N64oid - ACS rom(dont remember which one ) - no overclock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3MxuzvZUdY
Zelda 64 OOt running on N64oid - ACS rom(dont remember which one ) - no overclock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2iTbSfte8
New Vids: 4-10-11
Metal Gear Solid PSX running on Fpse - Midnight rom v5.1 - overclocked to 1.3 ( runs the same at 1 ghz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FWnLncQ-c
Need for Speed Shift - Midnight rom v5.1 - overclocked to 1.3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RE6pJ_cHs
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Just Incase
I converted my phone to ext 4, I am able to play perfect dark longer without too many crashes, and goldeneye is smoother at 1.3ghz. still testing between kernels to see which is best..
You can probably use the video option of the shoot me app to record the game directly from your phone. Probably get better vid quality
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You can probably use the video option of the shoot me app to record the game directly from your phone. Probably get better vid quality
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really.. i was looking for a video capture app. ill check it out. thanks
just tried it.. it works ok.. but the videos arent smooth so you cant really get the full affect of the game
I think the way you are going it now is good, shows how the controls work with the on-screen controls.
ok so F Zero (n64oid) at 0 frame skips with SFR ext 4 and Vision Kernel 1.0 (set at 1.3ghz on demand, performance and 1.4ghz crashes on me) runs really well.
also, Goldeneye is now playable! , still choppy here n there, but much much less than before. it does depend on your rom, I tried a few other goldeneye roms from before. I dont think this site lets me post it up so...
the dump is located in this forum under Xperia Play, be sure to download it. Downloading mine right now, hopefully we can use their PSX emu, games, etc.
Also with Goldeneye and Pdark, the games tend to make the emu crash or become frozen. My kernel didnt like it either so had tons of data corruption I think, just switched back to twlight kernel. If your phone can handle the vision kernel, then use that for gaming..
Goldeneye doesn't really crash for me but it gets REALLY slow after a certain point.. as for psx, I've been using FPSE and it works pretty dam good. I've been playing metal gear solid perfectly.. controls are a little tricky at first though
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
The game "Sandstorm" on Epic is AWESOME.Is there some sort of an wrestling game for the android?
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The game "Sandstorm" on Epic is AWESOME.Is there some sort of an wrestling game for the android?
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Yah sandstorm is pretty good. Its the version of the game i posted. As for wrestling you best bet is getting the n64 emulator orbthe psx emulator and getting a wrestling rom. Granted the characters will be pretty old
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
Speedx3d is badass.
bump for some new vids
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Speedx3d is badass.
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Yes it is but Piggy Drop is my hands down favorite game in the Market. Call of Duty is very bad ass as well.
So do most of these games run smoothly?
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So do most of these games run smoothly?
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Every game I've played runs smoothly on my epic.. this thing is made for gaming I swear . Take a look at the vids in the first post if u haven't already
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
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So do most of these games run smoothly?
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Even half a year from now, the Epic will still be near the top tier of phone hardware. There are actually games out there that run well ONLY on phones with the Epic's specs. Market reviews will show you that pretty quickly.
I will build a gaming rom. Currently playing all high end games with my current set even no microlags. Dungeon defenders, gta 3, shadowgun, modern combat etc.. Better than most of dual core htc phones.
tell me more games for test.
And the first video:
ROM IS RELEASED
http://gamerzrom.blogspot.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441620
[BLACKLIST] What will cause lag on your games. + RAM friendly replacements
Sleepy Jack caused lag when there were lots of enemies. Also, when I played a few of the games you listed after a fresh reboot, there were no lags as well. However, if I kept the phone on for like 2-3 days and tried to play the same games again, they would lag. Are you running odexed or deodexed rom at the moment?
what rom exactly are you on? i hope there will be an ics cm9/miui for that.
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I will build a gaming rom. Currently playing all high end games with my current set even no microlags. Dungeon defenders, gta 3, shadowgun, modern combat etc.. Better than most of dual core htc phones.
tell me more games for test.
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What rom base are you using? 2.2.1 or 4.03? I left gingerbread out because it can't play games without lags.
And I'm looking forward to testing out your rom since GTA always lags regardless of what ro I use.
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What rom base are you using? 2.2.1 or 4.03? I left gingerbread out because it can't play games without lags.
And I'm looking forward to testing out your rom since GTA always lags regardless of what ro I use.
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You will able to play it better than froyo. It will be stock JVU value pack rom and I will update it insantly when new roms come.
And rom will be RFS and no EXT4 support because EXT4 causes CPU overheads and this producing lag on games.
JJustin said:
Sleepy Jack caused lag when there were lots of enemies. Also, when I played a few of the games you listed after a fresh reboot, there were no lags as well. However, if I kept the phone on for like 2-3 days and tried to play the same games again, they would lag. Are you running odexed or deodexed rom at the moment?
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Ok trying now I will make a video for all games. Rom will be odexed. You don't need to restart the phone for playing games.
Now trying a new script named "gaming mode" by me.
This script force closes most of things before launching game even status bar.
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Ok trying now I will make a video for all games. Rom will be odexed. You don't need to restart the phone for playing games.
Now trying a new script named "gaming mode" by me.
This script force closes most of things before launching game even status bar.
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that means it just focus on one app/game.
burakgon said:
Ok trying now I will make a video for all games. Rom will be odexed. You don't need to restart the phone for playing games.
Now trying a new script named "gaming mode" by me.
This script force closes most of things before launching game even status bar.
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Oye! Great idea. What about closing stuff like gmaps, gmail, gtalk with that scripts??btw, also can that script automatically move to some of the higher frequencies of the processor. Like 800-1000 when u r on stock kernel.
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You will able to play it better than froyo. It will be stock JVU value pack rom and I will update it insantly when new roms come.
And rom will be RFS and no EXT4 support because EXT4 causes CPU overheads and this producing lag on games.
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I've never noticed much improvement after converting to EXT4 anyway, apart from the higher but insignificant quadrant scores.
By the way, the JVU rom has very high ram usage, and that might interfere with the gaming performance.
Bang bang racing
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I've never noticed much improvement after converting to EXT4 anyway, apart from the higher but insignificant quadrant scores.
By the way, the JVU rom has very high ram usage, and that might interfere with the gaming performance.
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ram usage is about the same like it was on JVS for me...
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Oye! Great idea. What about closing stuff like gmaps, gmail, gtalk with that scripts??btw, also can that script automatically move to some of the higher frequencies of the processor. Like 800-1000 when u r on stock kernel.
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I'm trying all with terminal but looks like I need a big help.
I can close all apps with terminal even haptic feedback. But how can I restart them after closing game again with scripts?
I think we can make a interface that stores high end game list to launch.
With launching a game this will launch script too and after a few sec delay game will work.
And other problem is how can this program or script detect the game is closed to restart closed process.
If we can do this we can use all widgets live wallpapers and high end games on our phone!
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I'm trying all with terminal but looks like I need a big help.
I can close all apps with terminal even haptic feedback. But how can I restart them after closing game again with scripts?
I think we can make a interface that stores high end game list to launch.
With launching a game this will launch script too and after a few sec delay game will work.
And other problem is how can this program or script detect the game is closed to restart closed process.
If we can do this we can use all widgets live wallpapers and high end games on our phone!
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Hmmm.....need to do some research on that, but u can do one thing, specifically mention those games process names . And then the script can specifically get activated when any of these processes starts( we launch a game) and as soon as we KILL the process the script also gets deactivated.
U can take pikachu's help. I have exams so I am busy these days.
BHuvan goyal said:
Hmmm.....need to do some research on that, but u can do one thing, specifically mention those games process names . And then the script can specifically get activated when any of these processes starts( we launch a game) and as soon as we KILL the process the script also gets deactivated.
U can take pikachu's help. I have exams so I am busy these days.
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I will work a little bit more.
Tested bang bang racing and sleepy jack works perfect. No microlags.
You have to do the same like apple with ios. Not multithreading or multitasking, you have to make a script or rom or whatever, that concentrates only on one task/thread/or whatever it is called.
Someone posted it here already
Thats why fruit ninja is also laggy, if you slide with your finger, you arent as fast as on a ipod touch with 412mhz. Thats ****, but we have to live with that :/
Otherwise, get an iPhone
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You have to do the same like apple with ios. Not multithreading or multitasking, you have to make a script or rom or whatever, that concentrates only on one task/thread/or whatever it is called.
Someone posted it here already
Thats why fruit ninja is also laggy, if you slide with your finger, you arent as fast as on a ipod touch with 412mhz. Thats ****, but we have to live with that :/
Otherwise, get an iPhone
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Can you send me the post I want to see it!
burakgon said:
I will build a gaming rom. Currently playing all high end games with my current set even no microlags. Dungeon defenders, gta 3, shadowgun, modern combat etc.. Better than most of dual core htc phones.
tell me more games for test.
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Blood & glory lags big time on darky 10.2... See how this runs on your ROM?
Video is coming!
Just don't change the stock appearence of the rom.
Gta3 is the best app to **** up the phone with lags ( my opinion )