Friendly "rooter" advice - Acer Iconia A500

This is for people that are ADB shy and/or "low" level rooters:
For folks using Titanium, rather than uninstall most apps, it is probaby best to Freeze them, since this provides the same function, but an easier backtrack if any issues. You could uninstall an app, but then you need to make sure you back it up. "Freezing" is a more efficient process. Apps like Need For Speed and Sparta can be uninstalled, since will not hurt anything and will save about 1gb of total space- especially nice to zap those apps, since Honeycomb has issues with installing apps with less than a 1gb of free space in the internal storage (or is this a exclusive problem for A500)?
As far as using Rootexplorer or messing with root-only files in general, best to not do this at all until there is a clockwork/nandroid option.

I did a freeze to most of the apps that I do not use on a regular and that I'm able to do w/out any problems. I just froze those game apps as I just wanted to wait until we could get recovery working. This will hold me over until that time comes.
I really need to learn ADB though.

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Apps installed in SD card

I am in the process of deciding to buy a Hero. I found in various other sites that Android apps cannot be installed in the SD card. Is it true. Is this a major inconvenience ? What are the implications ?
If you use the stock ROM, it does not install applications on the SD card. This means it uses the on-board memory for storage. Since this is shared with the operating system (Android), things start slowing down as the system tries to make enough space to run portions of apps in memory if you have downloaded and installed a lot of apps. However, custom ROMs such as MoDaCo's have been tweaked to allow you to store apps on the SD, saving your precious on-board memory for running apps.
you will have to install tons of apps, probably loads of which you will never even use, before you run into memory issues. There is plenty of memory onboard for the average joe to tinker and play with. You don't have to root and load a custom rom on these handsets to make them good, they are pretty slick straight out the box.
crash_194 said:
you will have to install tons of apps, probably loads of which you will never even use, before you run into memory issues. There is plenty of memory onboard for the average joe to tinker and play with. You don't have to root and load a custom rom on these handsets to make them good, they are pretty slick straight out the box.
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Indeed. After installing tons of apps, I realized that I had 40mb of free space on board yesterday and of course it is frustrating. However, I went through all the applications in "Manage Applications" screen and cleared all the cache they have been using. Now I have like double empty space ~80mb. And of course I still have tons of applications and games.
Agreed. Dont believe the statement 'Things start slowing down', he doesnt know what hes on about.
There are two sections of memory, one for storing apps + os and one for running apps. If you install 500 apps and almost fill the apps + os part the memory for running apps is unaffected.
I'm sure storing apps on the SD card is fine, but remember that this was originally done for the T-Mobile G1 which had little memory for apps, the hero has a lot more.

[Q] Smallest On Screen Keyboard Wanted!

Hi,
Ive been using my Dream for some time, and have hit the inevitable lack of space for apps issue... Im running CM 6.1 Stable, so most of my apps are on the SD, but some, like widgeted apps etc are still on the phone memory. Along with my current on screen kayboard of choice, the excellent gingerbread keyboard. However, I very rarely use this, but do need it occasionally. Therefore, what alternative keyboard is the "smallest" ie will take up least memory on the phone? I use it very rarely, so I'm not too fussed over features etc.
Many thanks,
Harry
morseharry said:
Hi,
Ive been using my Dream for some time, and have hit the inevitable lack of space for apps issue... Im running CM 6.1 Stable, so most of my apps are on the SD, but some, like widgeted apps etc are still on the phone memory. Along with my current on screen kayboard of choice, the excellent gingerbread keyboard. However, I very rarely use this, but do need it occasionally. Therefore, what alternative keyboard is the "smallest" ie will take up least memory on the phone? I use it very rarely, so I'm not too fussed over features etc.
Many thanks,
Harry
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Least memory? Your talk about where you are installing applications to suggests that you are actually looking for the one that takes up the least *STORAGE*. Memory = volatile, and loses its data when you reboot the phone. Storage = non-volatile, and keeps its data when you reboot the phone.
If you are not already doing so, I suggest searching the dev forum for "MTD" to find scripts by firerat for getting more internal storage.
Second, ODEX EVERYTHING. Your dalvik cache is a huge waste of storage space. There is a script around somewhere called "dexopt-wrapper". Run that against each of your APK files (dexopt-wrapper name.apk name.odex), REMOVE the "classes.dex" file from within the apk (the "zip" command from your desktop computer will do this...), and delete everything from /data/dalvik-cache. It will save you a TON of space.

Any way to install stuff onto the system partition?

So... since i have cleared tons of bloat and stuff i don't use... i have like 20 meg free in the system 'partition'
I was wondering if anyone knew how to install stuff there... maybe titanium backup... or link2sd... or something important like that?
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Root Explorer
Yes, actually. I'm sure there are a variety of ways to access it, such as Google's own ADB shell and other file browsers and whatnot, but I use the app Root Explorer to move apps.
Keep in mind things in the system partition are open pretty much all the time, but it's good for large apps that are integrated or you use often, like Facebook For Android or Swype. While you're in there, it's a good idea to delete apps you KNOW you never use and don't want, so they aren't always running in the background and can leave RAM for the stuff you want to be doing. Mind you, you can totally screw up your phone deleting the wrong system apps.

[Q] Question about File Cluttering, Bloatware, Security and Updating Apps.

Well, I was streaming the net about the flaws windows-os, ios and compared it to chrome-os and android-os and why we use it.
Its customizable and almost every content we have on android/ nexus 7 can be gotten from the net or the play store.
windows have a lot of bloatware, the older the computer is the slower it gets also because of file cluttering from the prievious leftover files used from other software, i was told ios didnt have that problem. I was just wondering about a few things about android and chrome-os.
If chrome-os or android os have to deal with the same problem that i had with my previous desktops.
here are my questions.
1. Does Chrome-os/ Android-Os keep left over files from uninstalled apps?
I had that problem remedied on windows with Revo uninstaller although i did sometimes messed up with the drivers.
Does restore factory settings delete all those things? (for confirmation)
*For people who rooted their N7, how much bloat ware did you deleted? 32gb N7 has 27gb free space out of the box, that makes 5gb less storage from the start.
2. i have a habit of connecting my nexus 7 to my desktop and i sometimes wonder about viruses. i have antivirus installed and i am still skeptical if it even do anything worthwhile. Anyone here can tell if those apps (ex. avast) ever worked?
3. Is there any disadvantage on using apps that update frequently (file cluttering: question 1), as most of my apps needs frequent updates.
or does updating files also delete some parts from it, to consume less space?
4. Would anyone really recommend chrome-os (chrome book) vs ios, windows?
You really don't need to worry about any of that!
1. Things are removed from the /data partition but apps sometimes leave things on the sd card (you can see those folders like normal). A factory reset wipes data but not the things on your sd. It is normal to have less than the advertised storage, plus some is dedicated to certain things.
2. I don't worry about antivirus on Android. If anything, it wastes resources and creates a false sense of security. The best antivirus is common sense when surfing the web and downloading apps.
3. There's nothing to worry about with app updates. The app only gets bigger if the update makes it bigger.
4. Are you comparing desktop OSes? I think you mean OSx then. It's highly dependant on what your needs/wants are.
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korockinout13 said:
You really don't need to worry about any of that!
1. Things are removed from the /data partition but apps sometimes leave things on the sd card (you can see those folders like normal). A factory reset wipes data but not the things on your sd. It is normal to have less than the advertised storage, plus some is dedicated to certain things.
2. I don't worry about antivirus on Android. If anything, it wastes resources and creates a false sense of security. The best antivirus is common sense when surfing the web and downloading apps.
3. There's nothing to worry about with app updates. The app only gets bigger if the update makes it bigger.
4. Are you comparing desktop OSes? I think you mean OSx then. It's highly dependant on what your needs/wants are.
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I can be a little adventurous on experimenting on my n7, so I do take risks on downloads at times
on OS, I'm not sure but I was thinking of getting a chrome book when then time comes. I was comparing Is based on my experience. I'm used to using Windows on desktop and laptop, I like the feel of android so I won't mind using chromebook if the concept is the same.
thanks!

Will deleting most of the apps on my phone make it any quicker

I have an S8 Plus where I have proceeded to install a multitude of Apps when I initially got it and now have over 300 on the handset. It is correct to say that this will actually slow the phone down? or is the performance difference negligible? Should I perhaps go through and put my apps all the 'sleep' so that they don't run in the background and take up resources until I use them? I want to try and get a Antututu score similar to what I see on YouTube but at the moment even if a reboot I am not getting anywhere close. I am thinking of backing up the apps and doing a factory reset and then seeing if it improves and then gradually installing the 300 apps from the backup.
300 apps?!
Why?..
bbegg said:
I have an S8 Plus where I have proceeded to install a multitude of Apps when I initially got it and now have over 300 on the handset. It is correct to say that this will actually slow the phone down? or is the performance difference negligible? Should I perhaps go through and put my apps all the 'sleep' so that they don't run in the background and take up resources until I use them? I want to try and get a Antututu score similar to what I see on YouTube but at the moment even if a reboot I am not getting anywhere close. I am thinking of backing up the apps and doing a factory reset and then seeing if it improves and then gradually installing the 300 apps from the backup.
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Do you need these apps? If not, leave the once that you need and other you can uninstall or disable if uninstall isn't an option. Apps that are loaded into memory, do take a portion of it.
Wow
Yeah delete all the apps you don't actually use. Seriously there's no way you need that many. Apps take up ram and actual storage. Along with resources as the OS indexes and checks those apps are still there. Not to mention any push notifications those all's have and try to push.
Literally only keep apps you regularly use and even then keep your OS running light.

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