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Screw the EVO, I'll hold out for this.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/08/05/htc-glacier-dual-core-snapdragon-cpu-smartphone-can-it-be-beaten/
Hopefully Sprint will get a version. I know it's gsm, but I hold out hope for a dual core snapdragon.

I still think the Galaxy phones with the HummingBird and GPU will own for quite a while. Technically your hero is dual Core already. Just one core is really tiny and slow (modem core).

By the time that comes out, something better will be on the horizon like it is right now. Phone technology is advancing fast. I'm going for the galaxy.
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I still think the Galaxy phones with the HummingBird and GPU will own for quite a while. Technically your hero is dual Core already. Just one core is really tiny and slow (modem core).
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How can we make that core faster?

jerry43812 said:
How can we make that core faster?
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HAHA, it would be able to demodulate the wireless signal faster, thats about it lol.
I assume it could probably be done if the kernel does anything with it...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm 33 years old. My first computer was an Tandy 1000. My next computer was a Pentium 166. I remember when processors were coming out every month or so, edging the cap up just a little bit higher. I remember them having a starting price worth more than the car I owned at the time.
So pick a phone, buy it and be happy with it for a year. If you're always waiting for the next best thing, you'll never buy anything. If you always get pissy when you buy something and something better comes out, just stop buying.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm 33 years old. My first computer was an Tandy 1000. My next computer was a Pentium 166. I remember when processors were coming out every month or so, edging the cap up just a little bit higher. I remember them having a starting price worth more than the car I owned at the time.
So pick a phone, buy it and be happy with it for a year. If you're always waiting for the next best thing, you'll never buy anything. If you always get pissy when you buy something and something better comes out, just stop buying.
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Wow you're old (turn 30 next year... I have to take my shots when I can)

I want a phone that will run full flash. The rep told me the hero could do it, but when I got home, SURPRISE!!! I'm eligible for an upgrade in october, but I'll wait until whatever replaces the EVO comes out.

bcarter2000 said:
I want a phone that will run full flash. The rep told me the hero could do it, but when I got home, SURPRISE!!! I'm eligible for an upgrade in october, but I'll wait until whatever replaces the EVO comes out.
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It does run flash... just not full flash

I'm probably going to hold out and wait for the HTC OMGWTFBBQ.

im actually thinking about giving the evo a second chance now that 2.2. is out for it. i now have an extended battery for it too. i won't touch a samsung phone.

Why you would consider the Samsung over the evo. The battery life is not much greater on the galaxy S series. Got a few co workers with both version (vibrant, captivate). We compare and contrast every day. They are all great phones but would not swap none 4 the other. Plus the evo got that 4g along with a front facing cam only if u were thinking of the epic 4g.
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jahnile said:
Why you would consider the Samsung over the evo. The battery life is not much greater on the galaxy S series. Got a few co workers with both version (vibrant, captivate). We compare and contrast every day. They are all great phones but would not swap none 4 the other. Plus the evo got that 4g along with a front facing cam only if u were thinking of the epic 4g.
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as i said before i wouldn't touch a samsung phone.

Got you, just was curious.
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I can't imagine needing a dual-core CPU phone, how much quicker than a modded N1 or Evo can you really get, not saying I wont buy one when they are out but still..

The Sprint Galaxy S has a section on XDA... I might go for that. I'm not picky about what brand name the phone is as long as I can crack smack hack and whack.

I'm 25 and my first computer was a commador 64. I didn't get another until Pentium 4 was out. That's a big jump. Yup always something a little better around the corner.
I can't wait till I can run Wine and play my game on my phone.
As far as saying you don't need faster than the evo or n1, it depends on what you are trying to run. Try putting windows 7 on that old comadore. What's the famous quote by bill gates saying computers would never need more than a few megs of ram?
And I wouldn't want to get a Samsung either but I do like the proc/gpu and physical keyboard
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I'm up for upgrade in December from my Hero, but hopefully this rumored HTC "Sabor" is coming out around that time..
Supposedly it's the "Evo 2" and sounds VERY nice.
Link missing, since I can't post it... Recap below:
5. HTC SABOR- HOLY CRAP. Do you remember me talking about the HTC Scorpion, a rumored 1.5 ghz device? Well Sprint gave that one up. Sad? NOOOOO! Instead they are getting the HTC Sabor (code name ofcourse) that is a 2ghz (or possible dual core depending on who you talk to) device to compete with the 2ghz moto device coming to Verizon wireless late this year!!!! THANKYOU SPRINT?! This change was recently made as this phone will be the successor of the Evo and will hit shelves either Q4 2010 or Q1 2011. This is all dependent on the moto release date. Be looking for an over 1000 res screen (possibly that 1270 res Google is allowing), android 3.0 (gingerbread), 2 cams one being a 10 mp, 1080p recording,& kickstand =]. This device will essentially be the Evo 2, and is rumored to be the gingerbread flagship device. Naturally WiMAX is expected. More on this one hopefully coming soon.
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Right now I'm impressed with the hero but I feel a little behind without a sbapdragon so n Sept I'm upgrading to an Evo and I'll keep it for about a yr and a half...
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I really wish we could have the Incredible on Sprint...

This will be my next phone if it comes to T-Mobile USA

Wow looks freaking awesome!
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=7258

One of the reps at my local T-Mobile store told me he was almost totally sure that T-Mobile would get the Optimus 2X.

Interesting, the new Motorola and the S2 are both looking way awesome as well.......... The next gen is going to be hard to choose with the new Dell and the new Vizio.....hmmm 2011 going to be a good year for the tech minded......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaDiI2ekFw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Most definitely my next phone
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And he states that it will be available on t mobile on the vid.. no estimated release date yet though
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The Motorola atrix 4g actually has a finger print scanner on it! It also has a dual core processor... hmmm.. what a dilemma im gonna be in if t mobile gets both of these!!
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At 20-30 secs in, they mention it has an IPS LCD display. LG makes the Retina display for Apple and a quick google of IPS LCD pretty much only mentions the Retina.
I know the LG Black has that new screen but if the O2X has a retina, I'd bite.

Yeah, I like the LG too.
How much Ram does it have, does anyone know? Can't seem to get a definitive answer anywhere.
I'm still leaning a little more towards the Atrix though.
Atrix>X2: Higher resolution, much bigger battery, gorilla glass, FM radio, 16 gig internal vs 8, plus all the docks.
X2>Atrix: Higher res camera - pics and videos
Nice to see the Atrix is coming with all sorts of codecs included too. If they would take away motoblur and slap a xenon camera on it, it would have (on paper) been the ultimate device. Still kinda is... The only kind of let down I see is that the screen doesn't appear to be as good as the LG, the colours from what I can tell don't seem to be as vibrant. Hope I'm wrong...

Atrix has Motoblur. I'm not a fan of custom skins due to software updates taking forever, but Blur=Bad.

This will be my next phone too.. I was thinking of getting the Nexus S, but the lack of expansion slot turned me off...

Atrix is Motorola and Verizon, guys--the 4G is LTE, not HSPA+. Not T-Mobile.
Knowing Motorola, it's got blur puked all over it and has a locked bootloader. No thanks.

With the specs on that phone, and tha dockability of it, i'd take it with blur 1.0 much less the current one. The current blur isn't that bad. It's a keeper as far as i'm concerned...
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If this was a stock device (like I read the device was initially going to be), I would have waited outside on launch. Regardless, I am planning on waiting till after MWC to pick my newest poison.
I want to see if HTC has anything up their sleeve for T-Mo. I hate Sense but they update their phones. ::looks at Evo::

holy ****, a phone that runs nvidia graphics?

i read on the mobile buzz widget that tmo will probably get the lg black while att will probably get the 2x, i hope the rumor isnt true but we all know that tmo almost always gets the short end of the stick.

You guys do know that this phone beastly or not eden beats our galaxy s device when it comes to graphics. On nenamark1, galaxy s scored less than 5 fps lower than the optimus 2x on 2.1. I'm pretty sure my phoney is future enough. Not worth to upgrade for any phone. Also ip as is never as good as the super amoled for games movies and anything like that.

Id like to get my hands on the Sony Zues 1.... or PSP phone as its dubbed
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Love my vibrant. But when the LG 2x comes out im selling my vibrant. Unless Samsung comes out with something close to the same specs as the LG or better. My tax return will be paying for it.
Killing Zombies with my Voodoo Vibrant!

darkside79 said:
Love my vibrant. But when the LG 2x comes out im selling my vibrant. Unless Samsung comes out with something close to the same specs as the LG or better. My tax return will be paying for it.
Killing Zombies with my Voodoo Vibrant!
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I think it's dumb not to wIt for the galaxy s2. We Ll know it will be auper powered like the galaxy s was

When this phone drops...I'm definitely selling vibrant....samsung you better come up with something more than a pretty screen

Galaxy S2 Site is Live

I am absolutely drooling over this baby.
http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/index.html

Can't wait for a LTE version!
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My Fascinate is jealous

According to the leaked VZW roadmap, verizon is getting the phone sometime in may. If samsung can redeem themselves from the froyo debacle, I would consider this.
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It doesn't make much sense for VZW to release the Droid Charge, and then this a month later. Plus, I'm guessing each US carrier will make alterations to this like they did with the original GS line. That would push a release back to the summer at the very earliest. Just my .02

cant wait till it comes out!! IMO Sammy phones rock, even without 2.2.1 the Fascinate is freakin awesome, I can only imagine how much better the sgs2 will be! As long as it does come with Bing on Vzn I'm buying this as soon as it drops!! LTE 2x core sammy phones on the way!!

Wishing my upgrade was due this June not next June. Is it going to have a front facing camera?
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ajd88 said:
Wishing my upgrade was due this June not next June. Is it going to have a front facing camera?
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2MP front-facing camera

This is the International version much like the Galaxy S 9000 vs the i500 that we have. Essentially ours is gimped as compared to the 9000 and likewise our LTE version might be losing some features.
However, this looks nice. Problem I do see is what specific chip. So far Netflix and Sony's next media peice (Playstation Suite) will only work with Tegra2 chips and it doesn't sound like this phone has the Tegra2.
Other than that, this phone looks sweet and I can't wait to see what LTE Verizon's version will be like. Though I'm still considering an eventual HTC as they are better standard UI and better at updating.

I don't see any reason to opt for this. Dual core is a plus on paper, but IMO not that huge of a one for me (nothings really taking advantage of it yet, and it's not like the single core processors were slow as is). I also don't like the larger size (the Fascinate is at the high end of what I think of as reasonably sized... the 4.3" phones I've seen so far look comically oversized... amazing what .3" will do!), and Samsung+Verizon will probably make sure we get it running Eclair just because they like us so much.
Next time I buy a phone, I'm gonna first look to see how mature the mods are for it first, and make sure there aren't widespread issues with any of the hardware in it not working (GPS still doesn't work for me!).

F Samsung to high hell!

superchunkwii said:
This is the International version much like the Galaxy S 9000 vs the i500 that we have. Essentially ours is gimped as compared to the 9000 and likewise our LTE version might be losing some features.
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How is our phone gimped compared to the i9000 outside of the software department? We are one of 2? phones that have a LED flash for the camera. We don't have a FFC, but then again, most of the SGS phones released in the US don't have one either, so it is a US thing, not an i500 thing.

Samsung is nice, but they suck on updates. After Omnia and now Fascinate, I doubt I will get another Sammy anytime soon.

I'm quite satisfied with this phone, since we've gotten 2.2. I know, it's not official, but we have it, thanks to the great crew that has worked on it. Imo, it has the best screen going, and you can't beat the profile. It says that the S2 will be coming with 2.3, and the screen and profile are only going to get better. If it's a couple months, or the middle of summer, I plan on getting the S2 when it arrives.

I bought the SF launch day. I will not be getting the SGS2 on launch day. Going to wait and see how the dev community is as well as how Sammy supports or doesn't support this baby. Hardware is stellar but thats only part of the equation as we all learned with the SF

All 3 of samsung's firmware engineers have been working on future products like this instead of supporting the galaxy S I. As such, they all should get kicks in the butts.

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I'm quite satisfied with this phone, since we've gotten 2.2. I know, it's not official, but we have it, thanks to the great crew that has worked on it. Imo, it has the best screen going, and you can't beat the profile. It says that the S2 will be coming with 2.3, and the screen and profile are only going to get better. If it's a couple months, or the middle of summer, I plan on getting the S2 when it arrives.
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I agree. From what I understand, its Verizon that is dragging its feet now on updating because they want to integrate Bing. I won't get the S2 on launch, my schedule is I wait about 6 months, but I will get it I'm sure.

Yes they have sucked ass in the update department... but the hardware is pretty nice. The screen is amazing on these phones. I have had to much to drink a few times and dropped it with no consequence besides some minor Knicks and scratches. Gorilla glass is very durable. I'd definetely get one if I could afford it.
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Software can always be fixed... You can't fix hardware.

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Software can always be fixed... You can't fix hardware.
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Like my Fascinate's GPS
Quite glad I didn't immediately sell my old-school GPS when I first bought this phone, since I can't depend on anything better than cellular level triangulation.

Lg2x over vibrant?

So the release date for the us lg g2x for tmobile hits online store on the 15th of april and in stores 20th of april. With my contract expiring, should I get the lg g2x? I love the vibrant but I feel its time to move.on..
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I think I'm going to wait and see how the dev scene for the 2x is and what the official specs for the htc pyramid are before I choose.

I am not very impressed with the display and camera of Optimus 2X which is essentially a G2X

G2X is cool but I still want to wait to see what the Pyramid has to offer.
It would be awesome if Samsung made the Galaxy S II a G-Series phone.

I would wait for the pyramid.

Im going to pick this one up just to sell it when the galaxy s II come out. Im sick of my vibrant as well...

Is the pyramid for tmobile? If so I'll wait. I also heard the sgs2 is quite expensive
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I'm waiting for the pyramid. No more Samsung for me.

Pyramid is going to have a locked bootloader which may take a long time to crack. I'd go with Samung/LG or anyone who supports open architecture.
G2X is surely tempting but I'd wait for a review to compare camera samples gps lcd etc.
The review from gsmarena for optimus2x doesn't look like camera and display are anything special...it says the lcd is not as good as iphone 4 despite using same technology and teh camera has a blue tint/less saturation and colors don't look very appealing.
Nevertheles, LG has put out a solid device and definitely heading in the right direction.

I'm considering this also. I'm kinda tired of the vibrant and if you have a family plan you can use the other lines upgrades for smart phones if you go through radio shack.
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Wait for pyramid even if lock boot loader its sense so its gonna be good at least its not blur and its suppose to beat tegra and SGX and gonna get Netflix cuz of drm once it Come out good bye vibrant

Jasonhunterx said:
Wait for pyramid even if lock boot loader its sense so its gonna be good at least its not blur and its suppose to beat tegra and SGX and gonna get Netflix cuz of drm once it Come out good bye vibrant
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lol good grammer!!!!!!
well the SgS II is my option... honestly yes samsung is ****ed up on how they release updates/sources for there phones but SUPER AMOLED! your ****ing high if your gonna give that up... my brother has a Droid x.... i had a HD2 and then a HD7 and after 8 months of my vibrant i wont switch to LG/HTC... . and **** HTC ohhh cool you get updates sooner but the boot loader will take a few months to crack... it took a month just for them to crack the droid X ( let alone the 4.3' screen on that droid ****ing blows... big LCD no clarity?)
**** any think other than SuperAMOLED!
the galaxy s/SGS II's are the BEST phone for your money and proven to preform... ive soft bricked my phone several times learning how to flash/mod
my brother had to get a 500 droid after he bricked his....
if your sick of your vibrant give it to me.... or atleast consider SgS II
as for the cost of the SGS II its most likely gonne be 500-600 bucks WITHOUT CONTRACT/UPGRADE... so more in the 200-300 range.... Gx2 LMFAO my old nokia flip phone has a better camera and screen...

tmobile may not get the galaxys2.
the g2x has only 512mb of ram. the pyramid has 1gb.
so i can see waiting.
unfortunetly i have the money now.
so if apr 12th doesnt include a world release of the pyramid i may have to go g2x.
the screen is comparible to samoled.
not quite as good but still just slightly lesser.
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im considering this phone too. Samsung GS2 might take a while for T-mo since they have to add the bands for t-mo's 4G and with the update history samsung has, not really excited about it. The HTC pyramid interested me before, but now i could care less about it. The G2x will have vanilla android, which they stated they chose vanilla android in order to get updates out quickly, so we'll see how that goes. I dont have to renew till november, so we'll see what happens. I just wish the G2x had the NOVA screen. Maybe by the time I can upgrade they'll be more options.

You could get Thrill 4G, it has NOVA screen and 3D recording. It also has OMAP which is faster than Tegra. You'll need to buy it off contract when ATT releases it,

VICosPhi said:
Pyramid is going to have a locked bootloader which may take a long time to crack. I'd go with Samung/LG or anyone who supports open architecture.
G2X is surely tempting but I'd wait for a review to compare camera samples gps lcd etc.
The review from gsmarena for optimus2x doesn't look like camera and display are anything special...it says the lcd is not as good as iphone 4 despite using same technology and teh camera has a blue tint/less saturation and colors don't look very appealing.
Nevertheles, LG has put out a solid device and definitely heading in the right direction.
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I agree with you 100% except for the part about Samsung supporting an open platform. Do we know yet for sure how open the Galaxy S2 will be? I'm worried Samsung will be forced to become Motorola by the carriers
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I'm going to stick with my vibrant and Hd2 until something quad core comes out.

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I'm going to stick with my vibrant and Hd2 until something quad core comes out.
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I'm waiting for Intel's i7 mobile to come out... last I heard it is due Q5 of 2011. The first phone featuring the processor is going to have active cooling with running fans. The prototype looks bad ass. It's like a classic American muscle car with a large vent/intake on the hood for its turbos, except on a phone.

For all those people who want to upgrade, but still have a while left on their original contract....
If you call up customer service, and tell them you are thinking about jumping ship, and want to know when your contract is up, they will usually allow you an upgrade, and restart your contract the day you buy the upgrade. I've done this twice now, and I'll do it again when the lgx2 comes out. (you have to do this with customer service, and not at the store. I called up there and *****ed about my vibrant's gps, etc, and they said I could do an upgrade if I wanted.)

I would if I could
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I Can't Wait to Retire the Vibrant!

Dear Vibrant,
You have kicked a lot of ass these past few years. With the help of all these badass developers on XDA, you were still able to outperform many new devices especially those crappy HTC phones. Unfortunately, I'm happily looking forward to replacing you with a Galaxy S3. The hardest decision now is which color do I get?
Best Wishes,
Nick
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Wow.
After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.

kungfoofool said:
After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I re-read his original post several times and have yet to see any indication of "frustration." Any chance you might be attributing your own personal experiences to him?

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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I agree that Samsung has delayed the updates etc. But do you not agree they make one hell of a phone?
My Vibrant has been the greatest phone i have ever had, and I'll go right back to Samsung, know why? Samsung may not provide the best timed updates, but look at the other manufacturers. HTC and Motorola both lock bootloaders, and for me its a choice between HTC or Samsung. Samsung clearly wins. Specially with the developers we have here.
Also @ OP
I think the is it Pebble Blue? Looks pretty good, but its being delayed internationally because they screwed up on the battery covers.

kungfoofool said:
After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I will suckle away on maybe the greatest android phone to ever hit this planet!!!!!!
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If Samsung keeps their phones as easy to root and flash as the Vibrant has been I'll be more than happy to go back. Aside from having to do the hardware GPS fix I've had no complaints with the Vibrant... not to say I wouldn't enjoy the SIII though
As long as you didn't stay on stock (and why would you if you're lurking around these parts of XDA) the Vibrant has been a dream with how easy you can load up what you want. And for a device going on 2 years old it's very impressive how it's held up and is still able to rock ICS builds with minimul issues.
I'm going off the contract grid in a couple of months, and I'll be rolling the Vibrant until the wheels fall off. Next one will probably be the Galaxy Nexus since it probably the least hassle without a contract, but hopefully there's another price drop (come on $300...) before I have to put my good ol' Vibrant out to pasture.

Completly agree with everyone else. My vibrant has been the best phone I've had...true it had its moments, like anything, but it still outruns most new phones. I've had the vibrant for 2 years and it's never let me down (except in the gps department lol). It still runs like new....and actually with all the development it actually runs better NOW then every before lol I will be sad to let it go, but the sg3 will be the first phone that makes me want to move forward....but not because I feel the vibrant underachieves by any means. In fact, I'm donating my vibrant to a good friend of mine who is stuck with a ****ty htc device until he can upgrade. So it will get its use for another 2 years at least.

Since T-Mobile USA isn't LTE yet, I have a good feeling the S3 is going to be Quad-Core. If it isn't, I might get a Galaxy Nexus or wait till September to see what else comes out.

Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram

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Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram
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Do you think the 2 gb of ram is necessary?
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Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.

rakeshchn said:
Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.
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Well, after all... It is a phone.
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