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Recovering files off Epic that freezes boot

I installed ADW launcher, and like an idiot, didn't do a backup first, and upon rebooting the phone, it now hangs part way through the boot; It's Syndicate's Shuriken ROM, and it hangs at the "Samsung Epic 4G" screen with the multi-colored X. Is there ANY way to get into the phone's memory and pull phone logs, SMS, MMS and Angry Birds data? When I boot into recovery (although I have clockwork installed, I can only get to the samsung recovery), the SD card shows up on my PC as a drive without media since the SD card is mounted, so the PC sees the phone. ADB shows no devces connected, altough the only adb I have is what came with the andromeda one click flasher. Is there something else that I need?

Is there anything I can flash using the stock recovery that'll get the phone to boot or even only show up in adb? I don't realy care if the modem's there or not, or how stable it is. I've tried flashing a handful of "stock" updates, but all failed with various verification errors. I had CW installed, but apparently it got replaced by the stock one. All I need to do is run "Backup Everything" to get my SMS, MMS & Phone logs, and Root Explorer to get my AB data. After that, I can (probably will) Odin back to what I was running, or maybe one of the newer Froyo's until the official release is out.

If you have cwm you can just reflash a rom without a wipe to get the info you want. The only updste.zip i know of that can be flashed threw recovery is the one for dk28
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The problem there is While I had CWM installed, I've always had trouble getting into it. It seems that at some point, the ROM overwrote it with the stock recovery, so the only way for me to flash anything is with the stock recovery, or to extract the flash data from download mode if that's possible. How do people get ODIN dumps? I assume that's just a complete read of the flash.

Been doing a lot of searching and reading, and came across this thread. Using Odin to flash the clockworkmod.tar (which has recovery.bin inside it) shoudl replace the factory recovery, shouldn't it? I tried flashing it and I still get the Samsung recovery. Is there a newer version than in that thread that I can download and try to flash in the same way?

Ok, I actually managed to get somewhere. I got CWM Recovery to take, but it's v2.5.0.4, and doesn't seem to be working 100% right. I can't mount the SD card to USB, it doesn't want to do a nand backup, and the smiley button moved the selection bar up, "H" is enter.
Edit: I then managed to get 2.5.1.0 installed, so now keys are functioning properly, and it would seem I was able to get a successful backup. Is there a way to get into the img files in the backup, or is it likely that if I odin it back then advanced restore the data back, it'll be accesable?

Well, I got all the data I wanted to get. As my last post says, *somehow* I managed to get CWM Recovery to take via Odin (Is try, try, try again, try some more perseverance or insanity? ), and then was able to update it to 2.5.1.0, at which point CWM started functioning properly. I then was able to use the DI18 > DK28 update zip, which got me into a funcioning device, which allowed me to back up the data I was looking to get. Of course from there, restoring it back to fully functional was easy.

Clockwork Mod recovery mode ??????

I am having a problem accessing clockwork mod recovery mode, no matter what process i try it consistently takes me to android recovery instead.
info:
samsung fascinate
rooted
Did odin flash back to stock
Did factory reset back to stock
Did software ota update to the following specs:
HV i500.04
M# sc i500
Firmware 2.1 update 1
Baseband S: 1500.04VD101
Kernel 2.6.29
Build SCH i500 DH101
Installed CWm Recovery from market
Installed Asto file manager from market
Installed Titanium backup from market
Opened CWM application
Went through root permissions dialogue
Flashed CWM recovery to 2.5.1.0
Next i clicked on BACK UP ROM which reboots me into Android Recovery Mode and gives me the standard 4 options for the fascinate:, plus it says installation was aborted:
1.After failing to find update package
2. open update package
3. verify update package
At this point i click on the home button and reboot system now.
Next i try flashing a different CWM Recovery version to 2.5.1.1 , 2.5.1.3 , 2.5.1.4 , all resulting in and error message, so i am still using 2.5.1.0
Next i try toclick on manage and restore backups but there are no backups listed even thouigh i did back up Rom earlier.
next i try to install the Geeknik ROM( Stupidfast v1.23(D101) from the Download ROM section.
I click OK to dialogue box that ask do i want to Down Load Rom
The Stupidfast ROM download starts and finishes
Notification bar says download is complete so i click on notification bar and this takes me to dialogue box which asks do i want to back up existing rom and wipe data and cache . i say yes to both and click OK.
Next dialogue box asks do i want tot reboot. i click Ok
i am then taken back to Android System recovery.
No matter what i do in Clockwork Recovery i always end up back at Anroid System Recovery. i have tried all different scenarios -debugging checked.debugging unchecked,clear cache, dont clear cache, back up rom,dont back up rom, usb connected, usb unconnected, Titanium in,titanium out. watched all different you tube videos on subject.
sorry this was so long. i didnt want to miss any answers to any question any of you might have if at this point you want to offer any help. thanks in advance.

You have to flash CWM with Odin before you can use it. Can't just install from the market or ROM Manager

Kevin, Thanks for your response to my question.
i thought i already flashed CWMRecovery from within ROM Manager. it is the first option at the top of CWMRecovery, also it states under that first choice that my latest recovery id Clockwork Mod 2.5.1.0.
If i scroll down to the bottom of CWMRecovery the last choice shows all of the CWM Recoveries. Recovery 2.5.1.0 is listed at the bottom and is the only one i can flash/install.
In both instances it says that i have flashed this version(2.5.1.0) of CWM Recovery.
I will try whhat you are suggesting and thanks again for the help, it is appreciated

Kevin , I followed your instructions and flashed the CWMrecovery.tar file with Odin3_1.3 and everything is as it should be. The funny thing is (at least to me) that the CWMrecovery version that is listed when i am in recovery mode now is CWM version 2.5.1.0, which is the same version that i flashed within rom manager. Kind of confusing but at least i am where i want to be. Thanks again for the help.

Yeah, it's just one of the quirks with the Fascinate. Unlike most devices, just flashing Clockwork with ROM Manager only puts the update.zip on your SD card. Using Odin to flash the .tar file installs the recovery, so both parts are needed.

where i need to put CWMrecovery.tar in ODIN in which section PDA/PHONE/CSC? 1nx

You only flash things in PDA section, doing otherwise will screw up your phone
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Im kinda new to all this stuff and just wanted to get some step by step stuff if you dont mind. I rooted my Fascinate tried clockwork mod wouldnt work when i tried to backup after downloading the recovery thing and when i read this you guys said something about Odin so I went to appbrain and downloaded tuxility but now im lost on what to do. Maybe something step-by-step would be good. Really appreciate it! (ps: I know im kinda slow but if you wouldnt mind...)

The stock recovery does not allow us to run unsigned zips. Thus, we must flash the CWMrecovery.tar to patch recovery to allow us to run these unsigned zips. Then you can flash CWM from within Rom Manager.
Follow these instructions from fallingup's thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788099

THANKS
Thanks ALOT this looks really simple the only thing that idk about is how it said to put it in download mode. Idk what that means. Debugging? and do I mount it? Thats all i think. THANKS agian.

Download mode: power off, pull out battery, with Odin open and USB connected to PC hold volume down and plug in USB.

Help rooting phone. Trouble getting green recovery screen.

So I rooted my friends Vibrant last night. I rooted my Vibrant a few months ago and didn't run into this issue. But I rooted using the same program "Vibrant One Click Root/Unroot" and followed the same steps as I did when I rooted my phone. However, once I installed ROM Manager and installed Clockworkmod Recovery and booted into recovery and clicked reinstall packages, the phone just rebooted. I remember when I rooted my phone when I clicked reinstall packages it did its thing, then went back to the blue recovery screen. Then I clicked reinstall packages again and it took me to the green recovery screen where I was able to then install zip from sd. My friends phone just keeps booting to the blue recovery screen where I can only reboot now, reinstall packages, clear user data, and clear cache. He had to leave so I did not have time to troubleshoot.
Any ideas as to if I missed a step? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for the n00bish attitude, if this was my phone, I would put a little more effort into finding the answer. I'm just trying to get this done as soon as possible.

Are you using the actual clockwork app to boot into recovery? If so id just go back to stock and redo the root
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creglenn said:
Are you using the actual clockwork app to boot into recovery? If so id just go back to stock and redo the root
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Yeah, I went into ROM Manager and clicked "boot into recovery". Where it brings me to the blue recovery screen. So you think I should unroot then re root? Because everything with the root seemed to work fine. It installed superiser and I had no problems downloading Titanium Backup or ROM Manager and allowing superuser permissions. Which made me think I was just forgetting something...but I might just try that. Thanks!

if your rooting stock 2.2 your gonna need a modded 3e recovery or one of supercurios voodoo kernels with CWM & root already built in. Superoneclick will root stock 2.2. If its 2.1, then you may need to hit reinstall packages a couple of times to get it to take.

drscott333 said:
So I rooted my friends Vibrant last night. I rooted my Vibrant a few months ago and didn't run into this issue. But I rooted using the same program "Vibrant One Click Root/Unroot" and followed the same steps as I did when I rooted my phone. However, once I installed ROM Manager and installed Clockworkmod Recovery and booted into recovery and clicked reinstall packages, the phone just rebooted. I remember when I rooted my phone when I clicked reinstall packages it did its thing, then went back to the blue recovery screen. Then I clicked reinstall packages again and it took me to the green recovery screen where I was able to then install zip from sd. My friends phone just keeps booting to the blue recovery screen where I can only reboot now, reinstall packages, clear user data, and clear cache. He had to leave so I did not have time to troubleshoot.
Any ideas as to if I missed a step? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for the n00bish attitude, if this was my phone, I would put a little more effort into finding the answer. I'm just trying to get this done as soon as possible.
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All you should need to do is hit reinstall packages again. When you do it the first time it will boot back into the same blue recovery again. Hit it once more then it should boot to the green recovery. If that doesn't work you probably have a bad zip file on the phone. In which case you'd re flash CWM again.
If you're not getting the superuser request when you flash CWM then root didn't take. Make sure root works first.

Did you actually run install cwm from rom manager so the update. zip is there?

Just make sure with Astro or another file manger that you have a .zip file and it should be 1.72 MB in size and you want that on your internal SD card....Then when you boot to recovery it should let you hit reinstall packages with no problem

I'm new here, but I have flashed 3 vibrants since last week. I had the same problem you did.
When I flashed my phone last week it was stock 2.2, so I had to flash the modified 3e recovery which fixed my issue getting into CWM to install my ROM. Today i was flashing a co-worker's vibrant who also was on stock 2.2. However, on his it would keep rebooting when reinstalling packages, even though i did the 3e recovery flash. I ended having to Odin back to 2.1 on his phone before i could flash the new ROM.
I just used AIO Vibrant Toolbox 2.5. Hope this helps.

Thanks for all the feedback!! I don't have the phone with me to check if the update.zip folder was for sure there. But if it is, I'll try reinstalling the packages again. Otherwise I'm just going to unroot and try rerooting with the AIO Toolbox. I'm not going to be able to do this until tomorrow though since our work schedules were pretty much opposite today. But once again, huge thanks to all of you!!! However I've never unrooted before...if I haven't flashed any ROMs, I shouldn't have any problems should I? Just click unroot?

[HOW-TO] New Clockwork Manager

[RED-CWM] (not orange)
Alright sick of scanning 3 different threads trying to help people with the new Clockwork manager I decided to write up this guide. This was tested from stock, I flashed back to stock to test both these methods, and they should work for everyone.
Stock versions tested: DI01 (stock), DJ05 (stock), odin method works flawlessly on these versions. cwm was not replaced by sammy kernel.
Stock DL09 will remove cwm on reboot, install a different kernel adryn's should work, pick your poison here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915709 flashed cwm via odin. install kernel, then rebooted, if you get stock recovery flash via odin one more time.
Nonvoodoo EB01 currently some people report it will boot to blue recovery after installing new roms. nonoodoo users should leave, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update.zip on the root of there sdcard that way after a new install of a rom you can get back to cwm. after applying udate.zip, install cwm-recovery-ALL.zip. (Thanks Landshark68)
To get to stock use adrynalyne's DI01 package get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648 flash via odin.
First I would like to thank jt1134 for fixing up the new cwm get your perferred version here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
Odin method (preferred method stock users do this one!)
1. Alright let’s do this, head over to jt’s original post and download the cwm-recovery-ALL odin:
2. Plug phone into PC and turn off phone
3. Pull battery in phone and then press the down volume button
4. Open odin on PC and press PDA load cwm-recovery-ALL.tar, DON’T MESS WITH ANY OTHER SETTING! Then hit the start button.
5. Boot into recovery (cwm) do this by holding both volume keys plus the power button till you see Samsung screen, you can let go then.
6. Congrats your done now install your custom roms, kernels, radios, and other various things!
Clockwork manager method (only if you have cwm installed already)
1. Copy new cwm-recovery-ALL.zip to root of SD card. (do not need to rename!)
2. Boot into recovery
3. Choose install zip from sdcard
4. Choose cwm-recovery-ALL.zip
5. Reboot your phone and delete update.zip from root of SD card, and recovery-update.zip from clockworkmod folder.
The cwm should be red, and should say voodoo no matter if you have a voodoo kernel or not.
Rom manager will not boot your phone to recovery, install a new shutdown menu that includes boot to recovery or do a manual boot to recovery.
The new clockwork manager installs to the boot partition of the phone that's why you no longer need the update.zip file. Do not flash the cwm from Rom manager, it’s not needed folks, and will put your phone into an endless boot. The cwm jt gave us is customized for our phones.
Post your questions here I will be happy to answer them.
Below I attacked the clockwork manager files, plus odin3 v1.3 but visit jt's OP and give him a thanks, I'm just the translator, hes got plenty of other crap to do rather than test this out.
I am not responsible for any bricked, broken, or abducted phones.

Tried it, works fine. Took a bit on that first boot into recovery after the install was run (already had cwm installed), you know that held breathe of "did it work"!

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Tried it, works fine. Took a bit on that first boot into recovery after the install was run (already had cwm installed), you know that held breathe of "did it work"!
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just be sure not to flash cwm from rom manager application, or you'll be holding your breath till you black out

Takafiji said:
just be sure not to flash cwm from rom manager application, or you'll be holding your breath till you black out
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Seriously thinking of deleting ROM Manager altogether. I did dl Adryn's revised ROM Mgr but may switch to doing everything through cwm.
I think the slight delay after the double samsung flash is the program working through blue in the background so it jumps right to red afterward.

Adryn's kernel isn't working for me. But that's what searching is for.
I also owe you a huge thanks for all your help earlier.
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lfrench0 said:
Adryn's kernel isn't working for me. But that's what searching is for.
I also owe you a huge thanks for all your help earlier.
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no prob thats what we're here for.
any custom kernel built for dj09 will work. only use a kernel for your raidio/rom version ie: dI01, dj05, dj09, dl30, ebo1 etc...

Hey Takafiji,
I posted a similar thread over at Android Central about the same time as yours here at xda. I discovered this ability to boot directly to red cwm, and I put together the how-to thread and everything was great until I booted to recovery one time and saw stock blue (2e) recovery. I played around with different options, but couldn't completely get rid of blue recovery. I decided to do some research in jt1134's thread and saw the link to yours and read everything here. I have tried every method in your thread and jt1134's thread and I keep running into the same problem. I can install the new cwm just fine and I can keep booting directly into red cwm just fine until.........I flash a new ROM. I can flash themes, patches, add-ons no problem, still able to boot to red cwm. As soon as I flash a new ROM, I boot to stock blue recovery. The only ROM I have been flashing is Adrynalyne's superclean 2.4. I read in jt1134's post that flashing a stock kernel will revert you back to stock blue recovery. The kernel in Adrynalyne's sc 2.4 is the farthest from stock we can currently get in nonvoodoo EB01. My guess is we will not be able to boot directly to the new red cwm on nonvoodoo until the devs get their hands on the source code and we get some custom nonvoodoo kernels. Any thoughts? Thanks

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Hey Takafiji, Any thoughts? Thanks
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ummm not sure here, you could try a voodoo kernel, they work wonderfully. how are you rebooting to recovery? rom manager doesn't work all too well in that area, try using the power menu and reboot to recovery that way. i will do some more testing but ive been jumping around on different eb01 roms just fine. Is it all roms or just superclean ones?

Takafiji said:
ummm not sure here, you could try a voodoo kernel, they work wonderfully. how are you rebooting to recovery? rom manager doesn't work all too well in that area, try using the power menu and reboot to recovery that way. i will do some more testing but ive been jumping around on different eb01 roms just fine. Is it all roms or just superclean ones?
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I got rid of Rom Manager as soon as we got the long press power button menu with recovery in it. The only ways I boot to recovery are long press power and holding volume down, volume up, and power buttons.

ummm have you tried applying a older cwm after booting to blue recovery? maybe if you booted to that then installed jt's new cwm you'd be set. just a thought. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update.zip should work, if it comes up unsigned we will have to explore different options. I'm trying to figure out why its going blue with a non-stock kernel, the new cwm installs to the boot partition.

Takafiji said:
ummm have you tried applying a older cwm after booting to blue recovery? maybe if you booted to that then installed jt's new cwm you'd be set. just a thought. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update.zip should work, if it comes up unsigned we will have to explore different options. I'm trying to figure out why its going blue with a non-stock kernel, the new cwm installs to the boot partition.
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Already tried that if the old cwm you are linking me to is the new red cwm for froyo we had before the current one. Loaded that cwm via ODIN, had new red on base of sd card, installed via old red cwm, no luck, went back to blue as soon as i flashed sc 2.4. The only thing I'm thinking is I don't think the kernel in sc 2.4 is truly a custom kernel. I believe I read the kernel in 2.4 is still the stock kernel, just slightly modified by Adrynalyne. Thanks.

landshark68 said:
Already tried that if the old cwm you are linking me to is the new red cwm for froyo we had before the current one. Loaded that cwm via ODIN, had new red on base of sd card, installed via old red cwm, no luck, went back to blue as soon as i flashed sc 2.4. The only thing I'm thinking is I don't think the kernel in sc 2.4 is truly a custom kernel. I believe I read the kernel in 2.4 is still the stock kernel, just slightly modified by Adrynalyne. Thanks.
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have you tried flashing stock di01, then jumping to a stock eb01, maybe that would work. not sure but i know the dl09 recovery overwites cwm. maybe you just got parts of it still stuck there...
Sorry wish i was a c programmer i'd jump on board and start helping create a custom kernel.

Takafiji said:
have you tried flashing stock di01, then jumping to a stock eb01, maybe that would work. not sure but i know the dl09 recovery overwites cwm. maybe you just got parts of it still stuck there...
Sorry wish i was a c programmer i'd jump on board and start helping create a custom kernel.
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No problem. I'm just going to keep going through blue recovery to get to red cwm until we get some custom nonvoodoo kernels. I updated my OP to advise everyone there on nonvoodoo to put update.zip back on the root of their sd card and do the same for now. Thanks again for the brainstorming and ideas.
EDIT- Also to let you know, yes I already tried flashing back to DI01 then to EB01. We are definitely thinking along the same lines.

Well now I'm totally gorked up. I followed Zacisblack's method with your addition of doing the ODIN install first. Now when I get blue recovery and hit apply sdcard:update.zip I go to green cwm. Trying to figure out a solution to that now.
EDIT - fixed that problem. Fortunately I still had a copy of the cwm_froyo.tar

I also have the same issue when flashing a new rom. It always goes to blue recovery.What I have to do every time is in blue cwm go to apply sdcard/update.zip which gets me in green cwm. Then I go to choose zip and scroll down to clockwork and choose cwm-recovery-all and flash it again then scroll down to update.zip and flash it then i go to applysdcard/update.zip and flash that then i reboot. Then next time i boot into recovery it always goes straight to red cwm. Sounds like a pain (and sometimes it is) but in reality it only takes like 5 minutes. I wish i didn't have to do that every time i flash a new rom but thats just part of my routine now as its what works for me.
I might not have to do all of those to get back to red but thats the way i originally got red cwm on my phone from a great write up on jt's thread (sorry but don't remember who did the write up). Maybe I'll experiment with just flashing one of those zip's next time i flash a rom to see if there's a faster way.
But I would really like it if there was a way to just always go to red cwm with a new rom instead of going thru all that.

Fantastic tutorial! Just what I was looking for! Thanks a million!!

Thanks Takafiji! I had just installed the Superclean v2.6 non voodoo and got the stock blue (2e) recovery as well. I tried to apply the update.zip and it took me to orange. I read your original post and it worked wonderfully!
Takafiji Quote from OP:
"Nonvoodoo EB01 currently some people report it will boot to blue recovery after installing new roms. nonoodoo users should leave, <drop box link to update.zip> on the root of there sdcard that way after a new install of a rom you can get back to cwm. after applying udate.zip, install cwm-recovery-ALL.zip. (Thanks Landshark68)"
...now, if I could just figure out why Google Voice can't seem to find my contacts, i.e. voice command "Call Mark Davis", nothing found and defaults to looking on the web.

My phone won't even update the app. When I try it d/l's, starts then aborts saying it isn't properly signed. Guess I'll stay with Adrynalyne's modified one for now.

I used ODIN to flash the new-CWM, but it always seems to boot into blue recovery. Using update.zip gets me into green, which seems to work fine for flashing roms. I've occasionally seen red recovery, but when using update.zip takes me right back to green.
Am I doing anything wrong here?

Thanks for the write-up I flashed recovery with ODIN
In read recovery and working great
again THANKS for the writeup

ClockworkMOD now works with 3E recovery?

EDIT: This is not a result of ROM Manager, this is a result of installing Overstock 1.4.3 which also installs CWM recovery.

Not trying to be rude or anything, but I don't remember this ever not working.

I am having issues with 3e. No matter how carefully I follow the instructions (flash->reboot->reinstall packages always fails) when flashing recovery from current Rom Manager and Premium License, it does not work. Additionally, the premium license is persistent in my applications list and no premium ROMs ever show up in my download list. Even when I select Vibrant MTB and either 2.x or 3.x, all I get is a message that states current recovery will be used. I'm still going thru posts for a possible solution.

Try putting this in the root of your internal SD, reboot to recovery and reinstall packages twice.

Yeah, I was misinformed. This is not a result of ROM Manager, this is a result of installing Overstock 1.4.3 which also installs CWM recovery.
If anyone want to do this it is really simple with the SGS kernel flasher app. Download your overstock kernel of choice from here or your choice of kernel that includes CWM from the dev bible, unzip it, move the zimage to the internal phone memory and then choose that file as your kernel with the SGS Flasher.
Note: I have not been successful with going back to stock kernel when I tried to but that may have been because I didn't disable the lag fix.

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Try putting this in the root of your internal SD, reboot to recovery and reinstall packages twice.
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I'm 100% stock on 2.2Froyo except for root/unlock and am puzzled by this. I know it's not ROM Manager because it worked on my first SGS4G which died and totally bricked after a week (TMO exchanged it happily cause it wouldn't even go into download mode or charge).
What's in this update you linked? Cause I'm smart, but not as smart as most of the posters here and I recognize only a couple things in the file.

It installs CWM.
Are you using a Vibrant or SGS4G?

SGS 4G for TMobile.
BTW... I totally appreciate the help here. I don't know the ins-n-outs of the android phones like I do IOs, not that I'm all that up to date on that either.
Update... Still does not work. I get the failed signatures error and the update is aborted. I tried doing a factory reset and re-rooting the phone in case something didn't work correctly and get the same error. At this point, it's all gravy since the only thing I really needed was the unlock but now I'm in a "I just want to know how this works" mode.
Thanks for the help.

Ok yeah that my be the problem since that zip is for the Vibrant. So just to be straight, you are unable to get CWM on your SGS4G?

That's correct. I can't apply any update.zip nor does flashing CWM recovery work. It says it's flashing but then when I do the 3 button reboot to get to recovery, it's the 3e version still and when I go to reinstall packages, it starts but then fails as it tries to verify signatures.