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Possibly buying a Fascinate

Well, I was going to buy one of the new 4G phones because as it was rumored the Thunderbolt was supposed to be available this weekend.. but it is not to be I suppose SOOO..
I'm looking to buy a Fascinate off contract in order to save my upgrade.
Just wondering if there is anything I should know? I have an Incredible and I know depending on your model number it's either AMOLED or SLCD. Now I know all Fascinates are SAMOLED, but I was just using that as an example of something I would need to know if I was buying an Incredible.. if that makes any sense at all.
Thanks for your time

As far as I know there are no differences in the fascinates out here beyond best buys unique white model.
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!

BigBonkers said:
Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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And I guess the iPhone is so much more than a phone without applications to spruce it up Once again, stop trolling here. You have 20 posts and none of them have something besides bashing the Fascinate or Android.

Just another jealous Icrap fanboy who has nothing better to do than hang out in here...Get a life and a real PHONE!
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Hands down, better than the Incredible.
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If you're going to end up upgrading to a 4G phone soon after you buy the Fascinate, then why get it at all? It's just a waste of money when you already have an Incredible. Just wait for a good phone to come out.
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Yeah, if I hadn't just gotten the Fascinate I would probably prefer to wait for the i520. The new SAMOLED+ looks even more amazing than SAMOLED, and I'm probably one of the few who wishes the Fascinate had a bigger screen.

I have a fascinate and an incredible right now. The fascinate is better hardware wise. The only thing keeping me on the incredible is cyanogen.
The fascinate is STILL stuck on 2.1 and while it performs well it still feels like it's missing something. I also miss the track ball and the camera of the incredible. And the name is much better IMO
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Just wait for the new 4.3 inch beast phones coming out for Verizon right now.
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Dizfunky said:
If you're going to end up upgrading to a 4G phone soon after you buy the Fascinate, then why get it at all? It's just a waste of money when you already have an Incredible. Just wait for a good phone to come out.
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Well I can get a Fascinate for cheap without wasting my upgrade since a friend has it, and we need another phone in the family since my sister broke her original droid (it held up admirably for a good while).

TheSonicEmerald said:
Just wait for the new 4.3 inch beast phones coming out for Verizon right now.
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None of the new phones introduced at CES will be released for several months...

Last I heard, the HTC Thunderbolt, an LTE phone, was going to be released later this month. I could be wrong though.
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BigBonkers said:
Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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Why do you even come to these forums?

ivorycruncher said:
Last I heard, the HTC Thunderbolt, an LTE phone, was going to be released later this month. I could be wrong though.
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At the press conference today they mentioned that all of the ten new devices they showed will be available the first half of the year, and "some as early as March"... So we are probably looking at April-May-June for most LTE devices

Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.

Your opinion does not make fact.
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Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
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However, his question was not about which overall phone he should get. Just if there were anything specific to know about within the Fascinate family.
As for your opinion, its just that, you're personal opinion that only fits you. You were used to an iPhone and the apps you had. You got a completely different product that you are less happy with because you probably can't find the same apps or ones that worked comparably to what you had. Does that mean its automatically inferior, no, we as humans are just habitual and dislike change.
As for hardware, yeah, the iPhone's front camera and Apple's specific image software to tip the scales for the iPhone4 over the Fascinate. However, the EVO 4G easily bests the iPhone4.
If he were to wait on a different phone, he should do as others said and keep the Incredible and wait until later this year when a slew of LTE phones drop that ALL destroy iPhone4 and probably 5 as it will not be 4G.
As for iOS vs Android, meh, personal opinion. I like Android better as a techy guy and love the better inclusion of Google products. Again, we humans are habitual and my short stints with friends iPhones really don't do much.
For me, I'll stick with a far more open option that is rapidly surpassing anything iDevice has offered. Plus, I can create my own apps for free and without having to buy a Mac.

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Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
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It's not about anger or hostility.
If you don't like this phone, why don't you go bug those people on the iphone forums. It just makes very little sense for you to come here and talk trash.

Didnt mean to talk trash guys. Wasnt my intention.

Sgs2 or what?

I was just wondering what phone you guys are waiting for, I'm personally waiting for the sgs2, hopefully it comes out soon enough. Seems mostly everyone has gone to the g2x already.

if they did go for the g2x already i feel sorry for them in my opinion. ive seen the reviews and no way is it even close to sg2 not even close to htc sensation. im gonna get either one of those, preferable sg2!

movieaddict said:
if they did go for the g2x already i feel sorry for them in my opinion. ive seen the reviews and no way is it even close to sg2 not even close to htc sensation. im gonna get either one of those, preferable sg2!
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That's exactly what i'm thinking, the g2x isn't that great, I think most people got it because the guy who made cm7 has one also.

cashyftw said:
That's exactly what i'm thinking, the g2x isn't that great, I think most people got it because the guy who made cm7 has one also.
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Precisely.

The reason why a lot of people have gone towards the g2x is the big support from the Dev community. Unlocked bootloader + source has already been released.
Not to mention sg2 has no release date for the u.s, others couldn't wait.
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DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
The reason why a lot of people have gone towards the g2x is the big support from the Dev community. Unlocked bootloader + source has already been released.
Not to mention sg2 has no release date for the u.s, others couldn't wait.
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These are reasons why people in this community would buy or take a long look at it, seems like a good phone and most reviews are quite good. Samsung and there slow updates, and lack of source make a tough phone for developers and now that HTC and Moto are locking their bootloaders, its gets harder to dev's to make the fun they make.
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Definitely an HTC
I had the choice of G2 or Vibrant me thinking Awesome hardware=better than G2.
I was wrong.
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im thinking of getting the sgs2 or sensation...

#neveragain
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Hands Down SGS2, I love being able to tinker, but even if I cant I love samsung hardware. I gotta say for support though, LG or HTC

I never understood the craze over the g2. Is there something with current roms that you don't like?

Idk about craze over the G2, but it is a fantastic phone, especially for emulators in my opinion, but thats because you can get some nice clocks outta the CPU. I got one (well, not mine, I tinker with my friends) running @ 1.8ghz, and thats pretty sexy playing OOT on there perfectly (almost) In regards to roms, you mean for vibrant? I have no problem with anyones work =) just prefer my own I'm working on =P

I understand that the G2, and all second gen snapdragons for that matter, can clock high, but is there any application other than emulators that use that power. After all, developers have to take care of both the low and high end phones. Plus, you are killing the lifespan of the CPU and lowering your battery life.
The vibrant runs fine on 2.2.1 and is helped by Samsung's GPU acceleration implementation in both the launcher and browser. And once the i9000 gingerbread roms start rolling out, we can only expect greater speed and stability.

Mostly people suffer from nuevo-addiction and waiting is just too much. Also, alot of people who have phones I have noticed once the phone becomes bugfree with lots of support they bail for a new phone to conquer the new phone system.
I am waiting for the S2

if you've got the money why nit? if I'm a millionaire I would buy all the latest android phone.
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SGS2
Most likely a better processor (as long as we don't get the Tegra2 version)
SAMOLED plus
more RAM

G2X then SGS2!
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I'm looking forward to the sensation. The galaxy s2 wont be significantly better in terms of hardware, and I've got a real bad taste in my mouth from the lack of support my vibrant has received from Samsung. Locked bootloader or not, the sensation is still a pretty good looking phone that I'm sure will perform well.
Worst case scenario, I buy the sensation, hate it and return within 14 days, wait for something else to be released. My vibrant and hd2 should keep me happy until I find something great.
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allthrottle said:
I've got a real bad taste in my mouth from the lack of support my vibrant has received from Samsung.
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To me the problem is buying a carrier altered edition of the phone. The international GS seems to get upgrades just fine. They don't have to wait on Samsung AND then the retarded carriers with all their alterations and other BS. That's what owning my Vibrant has taught me. 100% international & unlocked only from here on in. I'll be buying the International SGS2 as soon as I can, no US version for me ever again.

all i want is a new google nexus phone with a notification led duel cameras with flash and a duel core processor then ill be happy

I seem to have made a wise choice

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-3d-review/
Looks like a made a good decision and will be sticking with my Nexus S...

I hate endgadget reviews
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Lol that review feels like it doesn't come from a tech site. That is sad.
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weird, i thought the E3D had 1080p support.
is it just me or are manufacturers getting stingy with the accessories they include in the box? i remember when i opened up my nexus one box for the first time, it had a charger, separate usb/micro usb data cable, AND a neoprene sleeve pouch.
this E3D doesnt even include headphones?

p00kienrayray said:
weird, i thought the E3D had 1080p support.
is it just me or are manufacturers getting stingy with the accessories they include in the box? i remember when i opened up my nexus one box for the first time, it had a charger, separate usb/micro usb data cable, AND a neoprene sleeve pouch.
this E3D doesnt even include headphones?
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It looks like it is a cheap version of the other HTC phones with a gimmick screen. I was seriously tempted by it, but I am hearing other news that it is a decent phone that feels cheap compared to the predecessor...Dont get me wrong, i hate the plastic on the Nexus S, but, for a "flagship" phone, plastic optics sound crappy.

Read that review closer. They say they barely used it, then go on to say they used the **** out of the internet, and camera. and only got 14 hours.
I wouldn't speak to build quality until you can hold one, to engadget anything short of the iphone is a giant piece of crap to them.

xjman said:
Read that review closer. They say they barely used it, then go on to say they used the **** out of the internet, and camera. and only got 14 hours.
I wouldn't speak to build quality until you can hold one, to engadget anything short of the iphone is a giant piece of crap to them.
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Oh really? they gave great reviews of the Galaxy S2 + Sensation
Don't be pissed because they're bashing on HTC.
We as Android users make fun of Apple fan boys. But all in honesty, there are some Android fanboys too who stick to HTC, Samsung, and so on. I'm a victim of this, I prefer Samsung devices.

Surprising, I'll go check them out. I typically don't read engadget reviews unless someone posts one.

xjman said:
Surprising, I'll go check them out. I typically don't read engadget reviews unless someone posts one.
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I'd post them but reviews for other phones aren't relevant.
9/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
8/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/
For a handset with such a broad range of standout features and specs, the Galaxy S II is remarkably easy to summarize. It's the best Android smartphone yet, but more importantly, it might well be the best smartphone, period. Of course, a 4.3-inch screen size won't suit everyone, no matter how stupendously thin the device that carries it may be, and we also can't say for sure that the Galaxy S II would justify a long-term iOS user foresaking his investment into one ecosystem and making the leap to another. Nonetheless, if you're asking us what smartphone to buy today, unconstrained by such externalities, the Galaxy S II would be the clear choice. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.
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That doesn't seem too biased whatsoever. Yes, they had a harsh review on the HTC EVO 3D but honestly, I'll have to agree with them. The "3D" phone doesn't attract me and the specs don't either.

zephiK said:
I'd post them but reviews for other phones aren't relevant.
9/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
8/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/
That doesn't seem too biased whatsoever. Yes, they had a harsh review on the HTC EVO 3D but honestly, I'll have to agree with them. The "3D" phone doesn't attract me and the specs don't either.
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Fanbois always complain, but to be honest, Apple does a lot right with their stuff and, generally, the praise is warranted. For the majority of people Android is "different" and not as comfortable as the dead simple Apple solution...
I am more amazed that the EVO3D was so mediocre in so many areas. People ***** about the Nexus S lacking 720p video, single core, etc...but the phone "just works" without needing all the gimmicks.
i know most benchmarks are meaningless, but i am sure the Dual Core push is due to ****ty coding on Sense/TW/Blur...My Nexus S crushes my wife's Epic and they are virtually the same core hardware.

bender_123 said:
Fanbois always complain, but to be honest, Apple does a lot right with their stuff and, generally, the praise is warranted. For the majority of people Android is "different" and not as comfortable as the dead simple Apple solution...
I am more amazed that the EVO3D was so mediocre in so many areas. People ***** about the Nexus S lacking 720p video, single core, etc...but the phone "just works" without needing all the gimmicks.
i know most benchmarks are meaningless, but i am sure the Dual Core push is due to ****ty coding on Sense/TW/Blur...My Nexus S crushes my wife's Epic and they are virtually the same core hardware.
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The Dual core push is "bad" because they're running on software that is not yet optimized for Dual Core processors. The only things optimized for dual cores are Honeycomb and the upcoming Ice Cream Sandwich. But even then, Quadrant isn't optimized for Dual Cores. So like you said, Benchmarks mean nothing.
Also, they're running on Android 2.2 for the most part! LoL

That rubber will be peeling off after a couple months. Booo htc!
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That review doesn't surprise me at all. It will be a pile of crap phone. Watch...
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Man I pr-ordered the evo 3d at best buy last week and unrooted my nexus but man I cant let this thing go. I love this phone and I told my gf last night that imma stick with the ns4g. This phone feels good to own and I can't go to sense from aosp. I keep looking at the evo3d and it just looks ugly and gimmicky. I wish sprint got the sensation instead...
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Even though the photon is gonna be locked down it will be a way better dual core device. I would wait on that instead of buying the 3D
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mikeyinid said:
Even though the photon is gonna be locked down it will be a way better dual core device. I would wait on that instead of buying the 3D
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motobloat ehehehehe

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yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur

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yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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It will, but having a locked bootloader kills it. Not interested.
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mikeyinid said:
yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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Nope, it won't. A lot of random hate for HTC in this thread considering how poorly Samsung phones have been compared to HTC.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Nope, it won't. A lot of random hate for HTC in this thread considering how poorly Samsung phones have been compared to HTC.
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This is the only Samsung phone I've had luck with. I'm 50/50 on swapping for the evo 3d. HTC phones tend to be heavy and for me that really kills it.

Is anyone waiting for the Samsung Within (Galaxy S2)?

I am debating getting the Samsung Within (Galaxy S2) when it's released and would like to hear your thoughts on it. I have not been a big fan of the Samsung devices in the past but I am intrigued by this one.
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I agree with you on that one. I think its more about being sure you get the right phone to have for the next 22 months. It's like getting married, you don't wanna make the wrong choice cause its gonna be a while. My biggest concern is data reception. My friend got a nexus s and couldn't connect to 4g when I had 2 bars of 4g standing right next to him. Also, all of the samoled screens I've seen have a color tint to them so I don't know if samoled+ will be any different.

I'm wondering about the tinted screen myself. I hadn't heard about the 4g issue. I always research my future phones but sometimes you just don't know about it till you get it.
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Well I've had one samsung phone, and it was beast, it was the 'smart phone' of its day before smart phones as we know rule the playground. Never had a bad experience, and this one has the hardware to match the software; as I recall [could be wrong] samsung wasn't going to lock the bootloader so it should be rooted, potentialy quickly, and as that phone has the hardware, I believe it'll have more support than the notorious Epic. Also have a samsung 32" LED TV, amazing quality, and I think this phone is worth picking up, and if you don't like it, return it within the 30 days.

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Well I've had one samsung phone, and it was beast, it was the 'smart phone' of its day before smart phones as we know rule the playground. Never had a bad experience, and this one has the hardware to match the software; as I recall [could be wrong] samsung wasn't going to lock the bootloader so it should be rooted, potentialy quickly, and as that phone has the hardware, I believe it'll have more support than the notorious Epic. Also have a samsung 32" LED TV, amazing quality, and I think this phone is worth picking up, and if you don't like it, return it within the 30 days.
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I have heard that the bootloader would be unlocked as well. That is another thing that makes me lean towards getting this. Hardware wise it looks pretty good.
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As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.

i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!

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As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
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I am an HTC man myself. I hope that they dont add the physical keyboard to it. Just a personal preference. I think I'm going to make the jump when it comes out, that is when my wife gives me the money lol.
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i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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Sweet, I would love to have CM7 waiting for it.
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firemedic624 said:
I am an HTC man myself. I hope that they dont add the physical keyboard to it. Just a personal preference. I think I'm going to make the jump when it comes out, that is when my wife gives me the money lol.
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It's all about how you close the deal. My wife has a crap hero (no offense to hero owners, hers just sucks). So I told her I would go through asurion for a new evo since mine has some water damage, then I would let her have it after I upgrade to the 3d or galaxy s2. That way she could have a brand new evo until her upgrade comes in November. Not only is she bugging me to upgrade, but she thinks I'm a genius. Marriage, at times, is all about negotiation. As far as the hardware keyboard, I miss my touch pro 2 keyboard. I don't mind the thickness of the phone, and it made texting a bit easier sometimes. Also, remapping keys for shortcuts was a bonus too.

meeklo062704 said:
As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
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If they give that beautiful phone a keyboard, I may cry.

teh roxxorz said:
If they give that beautiful phone a keyboard, I may cry.
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exact thought i had, although they cannot be that stupid. according to leaked rumors & ****, Sprint WILL have another keyboarded phone, but supposedly it wont be the "Samsung Within" aka the SGS2

I am also waiting to see what else comes out this month.I'm not really interested in the 3d but am keeping my eye on the rumored within
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i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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Those were GSM phones and won't help any type of development for any phone coming to sprint. Sorry.
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What do you guys think about the rumored Epic 2???

jm5503 said:
What do you guys think about the rumored Epic 2???
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I haven't heard anything about it yet.
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The s2 is supposed to be out at the end of the month. I'm kind of surprised there haven't been any leaked pictures of the sprint branded s2 (within). They seem to be keeping a pretty tight lid on it so far.

I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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josh995 said:
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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Its the Evo 3D, without the 3D; same battery, has the evo's 8MP camera, Evo 3D hardware and software.

josh995 said:
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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EVO 4G+ is not coming to Sprint.
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Probably gonna get this because Samsung won't release any info.

I'm probably gonna get the one because HTC got me all excited with the specs. I've always been a Samsung fan but since there's nothing really known about it I'm too hyped up about this phone to change my mind. Lol poor Samsung lost a buyer.
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I'm getting it because of the quality of the phone and the huge amount of development this phone will have due to it being release to so many carriers
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spitfire2425 said:
I'm probably gonna get the one because HTC got me all excited with the specs. I've always been a Samsung fan but since there's nothing really known about it I'm too hyped up about this phone to change my mind. Lol poor Samsung lost a buyer.
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Haha Im sure you won't be disappointed, especially with the excellent build quality of the HTC One. Also nice Avatar, A Day to Remember is great.

The phone looks simply beautiful. Kinda sad that its not a full 5". Adtr is like my favorite band. Homesick is basically all I play in my truck.
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Better try to wait until s4 revealed then compare it and decide...
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Samsung will never beat HTC in the design and materials,that's why I stick to HTC, I love how they give us premium devices

vegetaleb said:
Samsung will never beat HTC in the design and materials,that's why I stick to HTC, I love how they give us premium devices
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Exactly :good:
If you want toys, go for Samsung. If you want solid smartphones, go for HTC

Samsung phones are for sure easier to hack and easy to fix if something goes wrong.
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spitfire2425 said:
Samsung phones are for sure easier to hack and easy to fix if something goes wrong.
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Not really
Slithered from my HTC One X+

Or you could just wait till march...I mean it isn't that far away and you will then have all the info you need for a decision. That is what I'm doing. Plus I don't usually like to be the early adopter of the first batch of new products...always seems to be some sort of problem that pops up.
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Ddot196 said:
Or you could just wait till march...I mean it isn't that far away and you will then have all the info you need for a decision. That is what I'm doing. Plus I don't usually like to be the early adopter of the first batch of new products...always seems to be some sort of problem that pops up.
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saying that i have brought htc desire and htc sensation on launch date and neither has had a problem. But i have heard stories of problems with new phones.
Lets hope htc have done enough testing on this one to make sure they are only little!

Well I probably won't be able to get a phone in march anyways, gotta wait for some other stuff to clear up so I'll have plenty of time to make my decision.
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What specs do you want Samsung to announce?
The gap between HTC one X and the S3 was about 2 months.. Its less than a month this time around.
Not sure what you expect from Samsung.
Its almost certainly going to be'
5" , 1080p, 441ppi, 13mp camera, 2600mah battery, 1.9ghz S600 and 2gb ram.
The One looks great and I'm seriously considering getting it.. but I'll wait to see what Samsung has to offer...

Exactly. I read on gsmarena that the s4 will have a full 2.0 GHz processor. Guess we'll just have to see.
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superchilpil said:
Not really
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I don't know about fixing... But rooting/flashing..... Have you tried Odin? OMG, 5 Minutes and WHABAM.... Much easier
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superchilpil said:
I'm getting it because of the quality of the phone and the huge amount of development this phone will have due to it being release to so many carriers
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thats actually a pretty good point :good:

Odin rocks. It literally takes longer to download it and set it up than it takes to flash a recovery. There's no boot loader to unlock and you don't have to s-off.
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Blind loyalty is dangerous. HTC rushed the launch of the One X and had tons of problems with it. The DNA/Butterfly seems to be faring better. An all-metal mobile device with multiple radios/antennas is a risky move. Every manufacturer that tried it before (including Apple) has had wireless issues. Based on that, victory rallies and celebration for both HTC and the One should be held off until after it’s been in people's hands for a few months. HTC’s never had any issues with hyping their devices but sometimes that hype has been ahead of the actual device/functionality. So the One could be a turning point for them (I hope it is) or its forum could light up with issues like the One X's did. It's way too early to call.
As for the SGS4. Samsung has a multi-billion dollar chip business and spends billions on R&D specifically for that division. To launch the SGS4 which should sell upward of 50MM units with a competitors SoC is asinine and that SoC would be used for a year's worth of production. Same thing applies to moving to LCD with their huge investment in AMOLED. For them to launch a "me too" device that mirrors the One and XZ would be marketing suicide and they know that. Most of the rumors everyone's picking up originated with Samfirmware which is hardly a reliable source based on their track record. If I was betting, I'd go with the SGS4 having a Samsung SoC and SAMOLED display in addition to other new features not on competitive phones. We'll see in three weeks.

yea i think we need to remind those defect figures were only in the first three months or so after a couple of month build quality picked up immensly
but BarryH is right, early adopters oftern burn
that being said, i think HTC experimented with the DNA/Butterfly well enough to prepare for this launch
this leaves the metal casing, i don't think anything can go awfully wrong just dont hug it and expect signal
There is one big difference to the One X launch
the One X was HTC's first polycarbonate unibody, in metal they are experts, and the One X was really rushed even shipped with freaky unfinished software, the HTC One seems to have been cooking for quiet a while and they are already pretty experienced with those chipsets

So many freaking amazing things about these phones. The decision is becoming waay tough.
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