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Well I did it, returned the Evo for Epic

Here is to hoping the dev community quickly upgrades the Epic to froyo!
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Jsimon9633 said:
Here is to hoping the dev community quickly upgrades the Epic to froyo!
glad to be here
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If they do, it will be missing 4G (amongst other things) until Samsung upgrades it themselves. But I think you made a good move.

I hope you enjoy the Epic more than the Evo. Im hanging onto my Evo until i get the Epic in hand and have a day or two to play with it. If all goes as expected then the Evo will be my girlfriends phone

Good choice . I have the vibrant and I love it. Good to see another sgs phone released ...

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Well played Sir....

how much did returning your evo go towards getting your epic?

rawsoup said:
how much did returning your evo go towards getting your epic?
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Wel luckily I was within my 3 days of buying my evo (bought it July 30th) at best buy. So I returned it and went ahead and preordered the epic too.
So I'll just have to pay the 50+ tax difference
Can't wait til Tuesday !

Congrats on making the switch! The EVO really never did it for me. Don't like the phones accent color, Sense UI, and the layout of the capacitive buttons.
The Epic shall be EPIC!!!

koolhand79 said:
I hope you enjoy the Epic more than the Evo. Im hanging onto my Evo until i get the Epic in hand and have a day or two to play with it. If all goes as expected then the Evo will be my girlfriends phone
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This is exactly what I'm doing, except I'm just getting the Epic regardless. My girl really wants the EVO so, good for me d'.'d

Speaking off best buy basically said I was only like the 5th preorder
Man is samsung or sprint screwing this launch up? I get worried because if it flops will that mean little Dev support (custom roms) or samsung official support like software updates?

Stupid doublepost.

"The Decision"​
When did you decide?
I think I decided this morning. I mean, I decided this morning I went day to day. I wake up one morning, it's this device. I wake up another morning, it's this other device. And it's a process that I felt it was I may feel like this is the best opportunity for me or not the best opportunity for me.
But this morning I woke up, had a great conversation with myself. Once I had that conversation, I think I was set. ​
The answer to the question everybody wants to know: What's your decision?
In this fall, this is very tough, in this fall I'm going to take my talents to Samsung and get the EPIC.​

Hahaha. Wonder if there will be a letter from the Company owner of the "other device" about his decision.... LOL!

Jsimon9633 said:
Speaking off best buy basically said I was only like the 5th preorder
Man is samsung or sprint screwing this launch up? I get worried because if it flops will that mean little Dev support (custom roms) or samsung official support like software updates?
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Sprint is launching the phone, not Samsung. There is only so much that Samsung can do because they have 1 phone with 4 different names and 4 different sets of features on 4 carriers.
The commercials I saw advertised the "Galaxy S" phone. Unless you're a bit of an electronics/technology fan, then you won't put 2+3 together to realize that the Epic/Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate are variants of the Galaxy S.
Besides that, certain other carriers like Verizon have done a decent job at branding their smartphone line.
I pulled out my Vibrant last week to show it to someone and they asked me if it was a Droid phone. Two choices:
1. Answer "no" and take 3 minutes to explain that 'droid' is a brand name and what android is and where my phone fits in.
2. Answer "yes" and avoid boring that person with a bunch of information they won't remember anyway.
Even though this phone is nicer than the EVO, I don't see it selling very big. Sprint customers are generally with Sprint because they are cheaper than Verizon and AT&T. The $250 price and +$10 "4G" fee for having the phone will keep people away.... especially since the Captivate and Vibrant are available on AT&T and T-mobile for $50 less up front, and ~$10 less per month (in t-mobile's case).
Also, the EVO just came out about a month ago or so. Its good that Sprint is getting some nice handsets, but they are going to price themselves out of their niche if they aren't careful. I expect the Epic to drop to $199 within 2 weeks of release.... I think they are just trying to squeeze early adopters

Don't they have to wait 30 days before dropping the price? Otherwise all the "early adopters" will become 2-week adopters as they en-masse return the phone and buy it again at the lower price.

Right Decision?

Hey guys,
I wanted the nexus one ever since it first got announced. unforunately for the first month and a half it was exclusive with tmo bands. Come around March, i heard the ATT version was released and i told myself i was gonna get it. I put up my iphone 3gs and to my surprise, nobody bit. they were all trying to trade their iphones for the nexus one att version, just like i was.
fast forward to last week, i bought a htc desire (telus, so it works with att) from a friend. It was a awesome phone, but the nexus one bug was still inside me. Everytime i would see comparison videos against the desire, i would tell myself how pretty and attractive the nexus one is. I couldnt take it anymore, so i went on ebay, searched all day today, and than right when i thought all hope was lost, one ad popped up. "never used, refurbished by HTC Nexus One ATT". I did the BIN which was 425 with 15 dollar shipping. Now selling the desire for 550ish. My question is, with tech advancing so fast these days, did i make a good investment in buying a mint att nexus one for a whopping 425? or should i have waited for the dual core phones from samsung.
be brutally honest guys. and btw, the nexus one is going to share primary phone duties with my iphone 4.

I think it's worth it. The N1 is amazing.

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I think it's worth it. The N1 is amazing.
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I agree. The N1 is still the best all rounder phone (notification lights, great GPS receiver, perfect size). Unless you play very graphic intensive games on your phone...you'll be just fine without a dual-core processor. I just feel sorry for your poor iPhone 4..you're gonna be so mad at the little things it can't do like long kinetic scrolling in the browser, lack of configurable color LED notifications, flash in the browser, ability to change to different notification sounds....

In my opinion, currently, there is not a single phone that, in overall quality, surpasses the nexus one.
It's just "pure" - no UI additions, no craziness. Just solid, beautiful phone. Oh, and it just feels so good to the touch.
There are phones that has advantages over it here and there.. but overall, N1 is still the king of the hill for me.

It sounds like you made a little money selling the desire and getting the N1 so I guess it wasn't dumb. I personally think the desire is a bit cooler looking than the nexus so I would have kept that. They're basically exactly the same, right?
I really like my nexus one. Recently the battery life has even become better on the stock rom. However if someone was about to buy it now I would tell them not to bother. The touch screen sucks — it can only detect two points and gets confused doing that, it also gets messed up when the phone warms up in my car dock. The screen is also nearly impossible to see in bright daylight.
Not sure what android phone I'd prefer though. Wish there was a galaxy s with an HTC body.
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Remember that all the leaked Sammy devices are for T-MOBILE.
AT&T is in the process of switching bed partners from Apple to Microsoft. I count us AT&T users lucky that we got an AT&T banded N1 to begin with. Regardless of what the person with incredibly large hands may say about the Dell phones, the N1 is the best Android phone on AT&T and will be for some time until the next Dev phone makes its way (fingers crossed) to AT&T bands.
Until then, enjoy the BEST custom roms ever made right here at XDA. This phone gets better ever month, and next month when the customized gingerbread roms appear, it will be better again.

I totally agree my friend
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Not worth it, IMHO. Once you get it, post back and let us know how you like it, and if YOU feel you got your money's worth.

I think its not worth it. Don't get me wrong it's the best phone I have ever had. All the Sidekicks (1,2,3 and lx etc.), from there to g1 (great classic) and a N900 with a few other phones.
I traded my N900 and got an nexus plus $200 bucks. best deal ever !!!!!!!
I would not sale my nexus it's is the best phone out to me. Perfect build, and feel. Googles baby you just can't beat that.
AND THE BEST COMMUNITY FOR ANY PHONE KNOWN TO MAN.
A CLASSIC THAT NEVER DIES ..... CHUCK NORRIS LOL. j/k
But, if your not happy with your choice there always someone with that same burning feeling you had to get one that will pay 500+.

Who else is Returning their Atrix before 30 days are up?

The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.

I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.

Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.

ZyanyaMJ said:
I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
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At least you have a 3GS. Do you know how horrible it is go from a fast, 1ghz phone, to a phone that's 400mhz with 128mb ram? Plus it's JB, so it's even slower.
I'm curious about iphone 5 as well, but it's going to take more than hardware to bring me back. I had an iPhone 4, and the antenna sucked. Also, I'm super bored with the OS. If the OS gets a major overhaul and the phone is better, I'll probably get it.
There is also the rumor about the HTC Revolver coming around Q3. Dual core, Android 3.0 (my guess is 2.4).
I'm actually really thinking about switching to VZW for the Tbolt. Except I hate VZW and have had a much more positive experience on AT&T. Except, at the current moment, they're only the 3rd fastest in Phoenix. Tmo and VZW LTE are faster.
Decisions... Decisions...

clubtech said:
Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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+1... Really need both when I travel...

i was thinking of returning mine because of the 2gb cap but i doubt i will
and since im able to get a steady connection from att and one that is fast and not bad like sprint and tmo it.
i believe that att and moto will push out the updates soon
its not like it samsung or sprint

I'll likely return mine. And too bad I sold my AT&T N1 today.

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The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
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Isn't the HSUPA+ of the Atrix is not compatible with the AT&T tower yet unless they turn the HSPA+ on?
I'm confused. Motorola is working on Skype compatibility now.

i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275

Not a chance.
I'm building linux (ubuntu) boxes as often as I can and to have a phone of the same ilk is quite nice. One that is this fast is quite the bonus.
Phone carrying corps won't do anything unless we vote no with our dollars. I know I'm not doing it. Switching to another company still shows you are hooked.
iphones are boring. Edit: Great designs, beautiful methodologies. Still, boring bar the eye candy.

I have 10 more days to decide. I'm really on the fence still. On one hand the hardware is amazing and blazing fast. Friends and family wow at the tegra hd games, hdmi webdock with out using the official moto dock, and the snappiness of the OS is great (granted its rooted, frozen and better optimized than stock form.) Also, the hope that the bootloader will be open in the future and custom roms made for it are a big wait and keep it flag for me. But on the other hand moto has left a bad taste in my mouth with the locked bootloader, and so has at&t with the HSUPA fiasco. But then I have to also hope that a more powerful or as powerful "community friendly phone" will be out soon as well, because anything else up till now doesn't boast this kind of hardware and speed in MY experience..... Decisions.

I already returned mine. Motorola made such an awesome phone and then teamed up with AT&T to completely cripple it! I fully trust AT&T will do everything they can to SCREW Atrix buyers. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
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There isn't a chance in hell apple does anything but incremental upgrades.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Everyone will still buy it. The iPhone 4 was an extremely large jump, this will be a nice step forward.
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Thinking about getting an incredible...opinions wanted

My Verizon contract expires on the 26th but I'm really not feeling the selection of phones right now. I wanted n LTE phone until I realized the current offerings were sub par. Then I thought I would wait for the Bionic but with the release of the locked down Droid 3 I'm not feeling optimistic about the bionic. Being locked down is a deal breaker for me. I'm thinking about getting a used incredible locally for about 150 atleast until Verizon comes out with some worthy LTE contendors. Thoughts? I'm coming from an OG Droid by the way.

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My Verizon contract expires on the 26th but I'm really not feeling the selection of phones right now. I wanted n LTE phone until I realized the current offerings were sub par. Then I thought I would wait for the Bionic but with the release of the locked down Droid 3 I'm not feeling optimistic about the bionic. Being locked down is a deal breaker for me. I'm thinking about getting a used incredible locally for about 150 atleast until Verizon comes out with some worthy LTE contendors. Thoughts? I'm coming from an OG Droid by the way.
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if u want LTE get the charge if you want 3G get the Dinc 2 or Dinc

Probably not a bad idea to get an original incredible and wait to see what happens with the bionic and sgs2.

Second that. Get the Inc used at a good price and hope for a legit LTE phone from HTC next year. I feel like Verizon is focused on getting LTE up and running this year as opposed to putting out really good phones.
I prefer HTC, myself. If the Sensation or EVO 3D were on Verizon I'd consider it. I think it's just an off year for Verizon and new phones.
I love my DInc, as does everyone else I've talked to or read a post from. It's a classic with unbelievable Dev support. Coming from OG Droid you won't be disappointed, esp if you like the slightly slimmer form factor.

Thanks for the feedback. I think I am going to go ahead and get one. I was definitely really impressed with the amount of dev support in the development forum. I think the bump in CPU speed/RAM + smaller form factor will be enough to tide me over for a year or so. I just didn't want to waste my upgrade on a phone right now and be locked in all through next year when hopefully better phones will be coming out.

yeah you won't be disappointed with the dinc. i still haven't found what i would like to replace it with. i'll keep it till it burns up (knock on glass)

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Thanks for the feedback. I think I am going to go ahead and get one. I was definitely really impressed with the amount of dev support in the development forum. I think the bump in CPU speed/RAM + smaller form factor will be enough to tide me over for a year or so. I just didn't want to waste my upgrade on a phone right now and be locked in all through next year when hopefully better phones will be coming out.
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My brother has the og droid, and I put miui on it (I have miui on my phone too), and the inc blows it out of the water. Even with an overclocked kernel on the droid, it can't compare to the inc. you'll love the speed increase and the awesome devs that the inc has!
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The dInc blows the OG Droid out of the water, and is still a very competent phone by todays standards.
I actually really didn't like the Droid Incredible when I first used it because something seemed cheap about it. Realized a day later it was because of how quickly everything was loading on it, made it seem like there was no substance to the applications. Idiotic complaint? Yes, but my brain works in weird ways.
Love the phone. If you can get a cheap used/refurb I'd do that, I would be all about the SGS2 if it came with LTE, I'm thinking I may be waiting for the SGS3 to come out or one of the better HTC LTE phones.

I've had my DInc since the day after it was released and love mine. I almost got a DInc2 but decided against it. I will wait till Christmas time and try to get a multicore phone. My DInc does everything I need it to do, while there will always be a bigger and faster phone coming, I can wait.

Thanks for the support guys...meeting craigslist seller tomorrow morning for $125. Here's to hoping the VZW rep will tell me the ESN is clear!

Good luck, that sounds like a good price if its clean. I paid about $200 for mine 3-4 months ago if that's any indication.

I purchased mine off ebay. It's a great phone. My only complaint would be the screen. It's very hard to see outside in the daylight.
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The incredible is a worthy upgrade from the OG Droid (I did the same thing in March), but only if you can get it for cheap. I got mine from verizon for $100. I only got it to satisfy my craving for faster technology since the lack of ram on the OG was pissing me off. I'll be ditching the incredible when I find a phone worthy of my (last) new every 2 (so essentially something thats 4G, Dual/Triple/Quadcore, and an unlocked bootloader), I wouldn't mind it if it launched with Ice Cream Sandwich either

you really can't go wrong with this phone... the devs having it doing things it was never designed for and it does it well! sense 3.0and panoramic camera are awesome.

The other deal for 125 fell through but I picked one up today..already loving the phone. MIUI is beautiful and it absolutely rips on this phone compared to my Droid.
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There are alot of roms, by the time the first 2 weeks are over, you prolly flash 25 times! Try optimized shift and nils business gingersense, both fantastic roms.
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I've had my DInc since the day after it was released and love mine. I almost got a DInc2 but decided against it. I will wait till Christmas time and try to get a multicore phone. My DInc does everything I need it to do, while there will always be a bigger and faster phone coming, I can wait.
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I completely agree with you about upgrading to a Dinc2. My Dinc1 is awesome and I'd probably end up regretting using my upgrade on a Dinc2.
I wouldn't hesitate to tell someone to pickup a used Dinc1 at all. Coming from an OG Droid I couldn't be happier. I have to see if the Bionic is locked down, most likely will be, to make an upgrade decision. Guess I'll just have to be patient.

Good phone for the wife?

So we are looking in to switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, currently the wife's # is out of contract and I have been looking into phones I like the price tag of the Nexus 4 and if it where for me I'd get it no questions but it's for the wife. The only phone she has had is an iPhone 4s so I'm wondering if this would be a good replacement? I've looked at some extensive reviews and I'd say yes, but I wanted more of a long term opinion would you guys or gals have your significant other (non techy individual) use this phone?

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So we are looking in to switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, currently the wife's # is out of contract and I have been looking into phones I like the price tag of the Nexus 4 and if it where for me I'd get it no questions but it's for the wife. The only phone she has had is an iPhone 4s so I'm wondering if this would be a good replacement? I've looked at some extensive reviews and I'd say yes, but I wanted more of a long term opinion would you guys or gals have your significant other (non techy individual) use this phone?
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i think that xiaomi red ice for you wife is the correct phone!
it costs around 150$ and it includes miui v5 with android 4.2.2 and they are always updating!
is a chinese brand but the quality is so good and the screen is made by AUO the same as apple!
http://www.xiaomi.es/#!xiaomi-redrice-general/c1kk2

My wife thought the phone was a little to thick for her to use with one hand comfortably. (No jokes please).
Her last 2 phones were a HTZ Rezound and a Motorola RAZR M. She said she has no idea how people use phones with bigger screens then that but then she held the HTC ONE. Well needless to say, she ended up with the HTC ONE. It felt thinner and narrower in her hand then the N4.
Could she have used the N4, yes but another one of her requirments was a good camera...
As long as the size is okay for your wife and based on her other requirements in a phone, the phone itself and the software just running stock 4.3 work perfect. With older versions of Android I would usually say you really would need to tweak it for the average user to enjoy it but 4.3 is running better then ever and can pretty much please anyone just running stock. Heck, I am running stock and don't feel the need to change right now to a custom. Only tweak I really needed was to make the Nav bar smaller and it is perfect now!

bucket81 said:
So we are looking in to switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, currently the wife's # is out of contract and I have been looking into phones I like the price tag of the Nexus 4 and if it where for me I'd get it no questions but it's for the wife. The only phone she has had is an iPhone 4s so I'm wondering if this would be a good replacement? I've looked at some extensive reviews and I'd say yes, but I wanted more of a long term opinion would you guys or gals have your significant other (non techy individual) use this phone?
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Without hesitation!!
I got one for mine and she loves it...I left it all stock, but did root it as she likes to change fonts like the weather changes...IDK why but I'm not going to ask her...Sometimes you're better off not knowing why
It took her a little getting use to the size difference. Had a 4s and an Atrix 4g.
Now she wouldn't go back. No lagging runs smooth as glass...speaking of which
If you do get her 1 I'd recommend getting a case right away as they are a slippery phone and glass front and back.
AS for the camera not being outstanding...it's a phone 1st and foremost, and takes some decent pics with a little tweaking.
There is a thread showing off some pics in the general section...Link Here
The price vs performance ratio can't be matched right now.
No contract crap, updates before any other phones, you own a quad core phone outright for a couple hundred $$.
Deal!!
Good Luck!!

I swear to God that when I read your post I read: "Good phone OR wife" hahahahahaha
That happens to a lot of people in here... including myself... if we get a good phone, we may lose our wives! hahahahahaha

Like mentioned by one of the previous users, Android 4.3 has come a long ways. For the first time, I am actually running the stock ROM (with root and a few modifications). For the average consumer, the N4 is a very viable option, ESPECIALLY at the current price of 199/249.
Size could be a concern and the HTC One is definitely a better design for folks who have small hands, but I think the N4 is by no means uncomfortable. Having come from a HTC Sensation and Galaxy Nexus, the phone feels better in my hands than either of the two previous devices.

8gb are gone now, only 16gb($249) is currently available. Just ordered one saturday and shipped today. Hopefully im not disappointed when i get it

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8gb are gone now, only 16gb($249) is currently available. Just ordered one saturday and shipped today. Hopefully im not disappointed when i get it
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There is definitley nothing to be dissapointed with! Coming from an S3 I don't miss it at all. With the wife having an HTC ONE, it is a great device for her but I would personally take an N4 any day.
Stock Android with quick updates just cannot be beat! Also, I do not even understand why they made this phone in an 8GB version. Talk about limiting a device and what you can do with it. What is there like 4-5GB of usable space when it is all said and done.
Good thing for people buying one today that there are no 8GB ones left. You will be happier with the 16GB which is still kind of pushing the low end size of memory but is at least somewhat do-able.

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There is definitley nothing to be dissapointed with! Coming from an S3 I don't miss it at all. With the wife having an HTC ONE, it is a great device for her but I would personally take an N4 any day.
Stock Android with quick updates just cannot be beat! Also, I do not even understand why they made this phone in an 8GB version. Talk about limiting a device and what you can do with it. What is there like 4-5GB of usable space when it is all said and done.
Good thing for people buying one today that there are no 8GB ones left. You will be happier with the 16GB which is still kind of pushing the low end size of memory but is at least somewhat do-able.
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Thanks for the insight.. and yeah i love the phone overall, based on the reviews, videos, pictures online. The only thing that can really disappoint me are the negative things i keep reading online, major issues with it. Some on top of my head are: "Sleep of death", "Reception really bad", "call buz", "battery Leaking" "Red light of death" all of those make me not want the phone LOL. I know this does not mean ALL devices come with these problems, just saying I would hate to recieve a Lemon Lol

Well it looks like we might have to put the switch on hold her car is acting up and I fear it will need a transmission.. I did the math and if I buy out of our Verizon contract for the other 2 lines we would end up saving around $250 in the first 15 months that's after paying $450 to end the contract. And that's with getting 3 new phones on tmoble. Might just get a G2.

bucket81 said:
Well it looks like we might have to put the switch on hold her car is acting up and I fear it will need a transmission.. I did the math and if I buy out of our Verizon contract for the other 2 lines we would end up saving around $250 in the first 15 months that's after paying $450 to end the contract. And that's with getting 3 new phones on tmoble. Might just get a G2.
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If your wife's contract has ended can't you just unlock the iphone? It would save money, even though I hate iphones

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If your wife's contract has ended can't you just unlock the iphone? It would save money, even though I hate iphones
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Doesn't work. While you can unlock the iPhone 4s from other carriers you can not from Verizon, unlocking a verizon phone only let's it work international nor on local networks. Unless I missed something bc I'd be all over that if someone has info I don't.