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need help: about to smash the phone on the wall

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need help. this is quickly going from my favorite phone to a PIECE OF CRAP I WANT TO SMASH ON THE WALL.
there's a thread i made yesterday. short version after rebooting the phone none of the apps in the sd card were accessible, the phone couldn't mount the sd card, and nothing would install in market. i flashed new roms, restored nandroid backups, nothing would fix the issue. finally narrowed it down to some file on the sd card. deleted all the files from the sd card and restored my last good nandroid and got the phone running, just had to re-install my apps.
i've spent all day installing all my apps (200+). everything was working just fine again. until i decide to reboot the phone. and now I'M BACK TO THE SAME ISSUE. none of the sd card apps work, in settings if i try to unmount the sd card i get a FC, switchpro can't change the mount status (says updating status but never changes the icon, so it's either unmounted or mounted, but wont change it), and nothing will install in the market.
i put back my original memory card (that i used yesterday in my testing) and the phone worked fine again. i installed root explorer (was on sd card, now to the phone). put my memory card back.
i am able to browse the sd card with root explorer. gallery sees the images from the sd card. beautiful widgets sees the skin files in the sd card. but the OS wont run any of my apps that are in the sd card and wont let me install anything.
i'm 100% if i delete all the files from the sd card and boot again, everything will work....but what the hell is causing this? i dont have any experimental/alpha apps that would do any damage after being installed. just a few apps and many games.
from my end it feels like there is a file that gets created at one point, that after rebooting the phone makes it so the phone can't mount the sd card, thus not able to install apps, run sd card apps, etc.
please give me some guidance here. i can't use my phone if i can't isntall apps!!!
i got so pissed almost smashed it
i'm using MetroDroid 1.0, rooted (nand too), customized matted blues theme. keep in mind the problem does not go away with a fresh install of the rom, or with a nand restore of cm6....i'm pretty sure it's down to a file issue within the sd card?

There is a file or app being installed on the sd card that is causing the sd card to corrupt.
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you really need 200 apps?
****, i'd say therein lies the root of your problems...

have you tried installing each app one at a time, and rebootung after each one? Eventually you'll run into the same issue, but at least then you'll know which app is causing it.
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fachadick said:
have you tried installing each app one at a time, and rebootung after each one? Eventually you'll run into the same issue, but at least then you'll know which app is causing it.
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That's a lot of apps to go through to find the culprit.
I would try reformatting your card. Then go about installing your apps again. Besides that I have no idea, could be an app or a retarded lemon of a phone.

^^ what he said... Don't just delete the files on your memory card, format it!

Beejis said:
That's a lot of apps to go through to find the culprit.
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Well, yeah, its also a lot of rebooting - its more of a last resort kind of suggestion. To be used right before throwing it at the wall.
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please smash it PLEASE !!!
200 + apps FFS why in the hell do you need 200 + apps

i forget the apps 2 sd hack, I used to run it on my hero and nothing but issues cause of it

stangdriverdoug said:
There is a file or app being installed on the sd card that is causing the sd card to corrupt.
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that's my latest theory. i'm going to try renaming all the folders in the sd card and rebooting. seeing if i can pinpoint which folder first...then the file
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you really need 200 apps?
****, i'd say therein lies the root of your problems...
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well according to titanium backup i ahve about 310 apps installed. i have many games, most of which i play. then i have several live wallpapers, widgets, tools, media players, news apps, messaging apps, etc. i have everything organized with app organizer and it doesnt feel like that many.
tek818 said:
^^ what he said... Don't just delete the files on your memory card, format it!
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that's the thing. yesterday i reformatted in-phone and i also formatted in the computer. then put the files back on (made a backup first) and this happened after installing the apps. i think i rebooted maybe 3 times in the process of installing all the apps today. the last reboot was only to test the theory that on MetroDroid data only works if you reboot with Wi-Fi off. so i really wasn't expecting the whole thing to stop working again!
EDIT: where in the memory card exactly are the app files?

XDA will not tolerate this thread. Your profanity is unacceptable and unhealthy to some viewer. Admin please remove this tread and banned this user.

no need for all the pointless swearing. next time post more civil

Unless you have transferred said apps to your SD card they will not show.

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XDA will not tolerate this thread. Your profanity is unacceptable and unhealthy to some viewer. Admin please remove this tread and banned this user.
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really? thank you for your helpful post. i posted a very detailed and civil thread yesterday and where were you with helpful information? nowhere. and where is your helpful information now? nowhere. so why even come in the thread if you're not going to help?
@toast - thanks for editing the OP. i dont usually make the pissed off kind of threads but this time it served its purpose. the last two days i had a very well written, detailed thread explaining everything asking for help. i renamed it several times. bumped it 2-3 times. all i got was two responses. i post this one with profanity in the title and look at how many answers already. some of which seem to be pointing me somewhere right hopefully!
it's very frustrating to see picture threads and mod threads get useful (and useless) comments every minute and threads asking for help (i've seen this happen with my own threads in the past and many others) get ignored. specially considering by the time I get to ask for help i've spent hours trying to fix it on my own and researching before asking here.
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VOODOOTRIP i put back most of the files that were in the memory card prior to reformatting it. anyways i installed all the apps again today after that and haven't reformatted yet (what's the point?) so the apps are in the sd card. just need to figure out how to get the phone to access the card!
EDIT: i renamed all the folders in the sd card (without reformatting or deleting anything) and booted into the phone. was able to mount/unmount the card and install apps from market. so it is a file in there...now to figure out which one!

You can access the card from root exp. or from Astro? ie it's still showing the extension right? When was the last time it was working properly? What rom were you on when it first started happeneing? Have you downloaded any non market apps since then? Are all your roms on current update? You said you have tried both a sense and AOSP rom right?

i was able to narrow it down....it's a file within .androidsecure...so now i have to sort through 131 files in there. but at least there's a light at the end of the tunnel!
with .androidsecure renamed i am able to install apps, mount/unmount. etc. so it's got to be something in there that is loading when the phone loads...i wonder what?
i'll update when i find out in case anyone comes across this problem too.
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You can access the card from root exp. or from Astro? ie it's still showing the extension right? When was the last time it was working properly? What rom were you on when it first started happeneing? Have you downloaded any non market apps since then? Are all your roms on current update? You said you have tried both a sense and AOSP rom right?
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see info above (quickly....yes, no (astro is in sd card), about three days ago, MetroDroid, since then couldn't download/install anything, everything is updated, tried both CM6.0 and this rom. but see above. since problem is a file in the .androidsecure folder, whether i was wiping and going to cm6 or back to sense that file wouldn't be modified by the recovery wipe correct?

I know the problem its the 200 apps or one app not getting along with another app. You are the first person that I have come across that has that many apps 200+ apps is a crazy amount of apps.

jdh10475 said:
I know the problem its the 200 apps or one app not getting along with another app. You are the first person that I have come across that has that many apps 200+ apps is a crazy amount of apps.
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well there are 131 asec files in that folder. so at least 131 apps + the ones on the phone memory.
but why the surprise with the amount of apps? isn't that why we get 16gb and 32gb memory cards?

the problem file was
se.nena.nenamark1-1.asec
for the benchmark NenaMark
that was the last app i had installed before i overclocked my phone into rebooting. and that's when the problems starting. hindsight is always 20/20
new development. i installed another app and rebooted and the same error happened. NenaMark was off from the android_secure folder but i was back to 131 files. i removed some other apps and booted again and everything is fine. so it looks like 130 .asec files are the limit? at 131 files I get the same problem?
moved 130 of the 131 files back and the phone ran fine. put that one file in, and problems came back. removed the file and all is well again.

I was having problems with my phone and once I accidents ran a check disk via win 7 it found and fixed some corruption, also my symptoms went away. In fact even my video recordings loom much better.
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after gingerbreak market issues

i used gingerbreak to root 1.8.3 and now when im in the market it says my only apps installed are maps and youtube.
anyone else get this?
all the apps still work. only market doesnt recognize that they are installed

Sometimes Gingerbreak formats your entire internal SD card. I've never had it happen myself though. And I've rooted about 4 different times with gingerbreak.

it did format my sd. i backed everything up though and put it all back on the sd card

Yeah i had a very short list of apps that were there... and it did format my internal sd card the first time I ran it.... so maybe that's what the deal was. I flashed the 1.83 sbf today and ran gingerbreak again and it didn't format the card.
Not sure what a fix would be, but it would be nice to get updates for those apps eventually.

settings, applications, manage applications, all tab, market, clear data
should solve it

scorneil said:
settings, applications, manage applications, all tab, market, clear data
should solve it
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I tried that and it didn't seem to help.. I was hoping it would re-enumerate the applications. Not sure If I've rebooted since then though... let me try that.
UPDATE: Clearing data and rebooting worked.

Making atrix safe to sell (preparations)

Can someone help me out it would be greatly appreciated. How would I make sure my phone is safe to sell as far as security reasons go? I dont want any of my personal information still on here. I'm running cm7 and i just did a factory reset and connected my phone to my computer and moved everything from mnt/emmc to my computer but when i go under file manager on my phone there seems to still be some files left behind? are these safe to leave? How would i go about preparing my phone to sell. Some of the files in /mnt/emmc are stuff like .spotlight-v100, .Trashes, .adobe, .taggedFriendPhotos, LOST.DIR, and theres some other stuff aswell

You should definitely format the internal storage, use your computer. There's nothing left after that.

Vangelis13 said:
You should definitely format the internal storage, use your computer. There's nothing left after that.
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Okay how do I do that. I'm on mac. And under security>factory reset it told me it would wipe the internal storage but I guess that didn't really do anything. So after I connect it to my computer then what do I do?

milesjohnson said:
Okay how do I do that. I'm on mac. And under security>factory reset it told me it would wipe the internal storage but I guess that didn't really do anything. So after I connect it to my computer then what do I do?
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Ouch, sorry mate, I never even touched a Mac..

Never touched a mac, but
in windows you open the file manager. find your device , should be listed as a "usb storage" device. Right click and choose format.
ta-da!

H'm it seems like the factory reset should have got rid of these files. Should I worry about them? And would formatting on my computer get rid of these files?

H'm it seems like the factory reset should have got rid of these files. Should I worry about them? And would formatting on my computer get rid of these files?
what kind of files you talking about?

".spotlight-v100, .Trashes, .adobe, .taggedFriendPhotos, LOST.DIR, and theres some other stuff aswell." Folders like these....and there not deleting even after a factory reset

You can always use fastboot and erase userdata, data, cache etc

factory reset doesnt touch your internal storage. it only wipes /data and /system
use the FORMAT sdcard option in the settings....

you could do a fastboot -w and then install a fruitcake, can't you? i've never used -w before, dunno if it deletes everything on the internal storage or not.

I have gone through quite a bit of phones until i got to this one and all you really need to do is restore factory defaults and keep your sd card

freshlycutlawn said:
I have gone through quite a bit of phones until i got to this one and all you really need to do is restore factory defaults and keep your sd card
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except that this one has INTERNAL storage where a lot of other phones do not....especially most HTC phones
you have to format internal sd or there will be lots of data left on the phone

Pirateghost said:
except that this one has INTERNAL storage where a lot of other phones do not....especially most HTC phones
you have to format internal sd or there will be lots of data left on the phone
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Exactly. The Atrix has its internal SD and an external. If you go into Menu > Settings > Storage, you should be able to wipe the memory of your two SD cards.

Pirateghost said:
except that this one has INTERNAL storage where a lot of other phones do not....especially most HTC phones
you have to format internal sd or there will be lots of data left on the phone
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One problem here though, cm7 doesn't properly format. Once you try doing this you can't mount.
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Pirateghost said:
except that this one has INTERNAL storage where a lot of other phones do not....especially most HTC phones
you have to format internal sd or there will be lots of data left on the phone
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Makes sense that I would think that seeing that my last phone was actually an HTC
Thanks though mate, now I know for when it comes time to sell this phone

Internal space used up

Hey, my wife has been having a lot of trouble with storage space on her verizon s5. the internal storage is all but full. there arent many apps an it, in fact she has to delete apps to get new ones on her phone. its not rooted at all, and she doesnt want me to play with it like that. i have moved a majority of the the pics and vids to an external card. is there anything i can do to explore what is taking up so much space on the root directory without rooted it or playing with the phone or am i out of luck and stuck with a factory reset.

SuperShadow1021 said:
Hey, my wife has been having a lot of trouble with storage space on her verizon s5. the internal storage is all but full. there arent many apps an it, in fact she has to delete apps to get new ones on her phone. its not rooted at all, and she doesnt want me to play with it like that. i have moved a majority of the the pics and vids to an external card. is there anything i can do to explore what is taking up so much space on the root directory without rooted it or playing with the phone or am i out of luck and stuck with a factory reset.
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without root, the best bet is go into Settings-> Storage-> you should see what using up your space. Tab on it to see details and delete them as needed. You could also download diskspace analyzer app like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage

I did that and there is a lot in the misc files section but it doesn't add up to the total in the section

SuperShadow1021 said:
I did that and there is a lot in the misc files section but it doesn't add up to the total in the section
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Download this best disk space cleaner https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=booster.cleaner.optimizer . After install, make sure you reboot the phone, then check your storage then run the app and you should able to delete.

Tried running app. A big chuck of data is in the system in apps that I can't delete AMD such. Maybe I'll try a factory restore or gaining root so I can erase the apps she doesn't use.

Titanium Backup can't write to SD card / Invicta v2.4 5/16/17 build

Hi,
Have been running Invicta/LOS unofficial since about December. In all builds, I have not been able to write to the ext SD card with Titanium Backup. However, on the 4/20 build, I was able to get it working by selecting DocumentProvider storage in TBU. Unfortunately, since I have upgraded to the 5/16 build, I can't get it to work anymore. It will write/backup to the internal storage, but it will not write to the ext SD card.
Is there a mod I can perform to enable writing to the ext SD card?
Thanks!

Tried reinstalling the app and wiping the caches? There shouldn't be a reason why TiB won't work. Check if it has all the permissions. In the end, try setting SE Linux permissive if nothing helps.

Yeah...wiped the cache, deleted all/any TB folders on internal & external, and reinstalled. Still won't let me write to the external card for some reason. Not the end of the world but frustrating.

mn1968 said:
Yeah...wiped the cache, deleted all/any TB folders on internal & external, and reinstalled. Still won't let me write to the external card for some reason. Not the end of the world but frustrating.
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In the /Android/data folder on your sdcard, create a subfolder titled com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup. Then select it for your backup folder in Titanium backup. Should work without issues.

pastorbob62 said:
In the /Android/data folder on your sdcard, create a subfolder titled com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup. Then select it for your backup folder in Titanium backup. Should work without issues.
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I'll be a monkey's uncle! I've tried this method previously but was unsuccessful for some reason. It works now.
Thanks!
P.S. Wasn't even going to bother trying this way again, but figured I would try just once more to prove it wouldn't work. Silly me.
P.S.S. It's kind of a convoluted path, but as long as it works.

mn1968 said:
I'll be a monkey's uncle! I've tried this method previously but was unsuccessful for some reason. It works now.
Thanks!
P.S. Wasn't even going to bother trying this way again, but figured I would try just once more to prove it wouldn't work. Silly me.
P.S.S. It's kind of a convoluted path, but as long as it works.
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I get that! I learned this a over a year ago on my old Asus TF300T tablet. I believe that the transition from Lollipop to Marshmallow is where it became necessary. If I remember right, the capitalized letters are needed for it to work properly.
Glad it worked for you! :good: