got my arc a few days back...apart from suffering from poor battery issues, I have noticed that when I play games on the arc, the top part around the camera starts heating up..
I observed it first when I was playing homerun battle with the charger plugged it..so I thought perhaps its because of playing while charging..
however, even after removing the charger and playing games, the heating continues..in fact the temp indicator on battery indicator shows temps of early to mid 30 C (86F) while playing games (I have not dared to let it go beyond tht)....while on idle it overs around early to mid 20C
is this normal?
my dell streak on the other hand rarely crosses 30C even on heavy gaming...
it's normal i'd say, mine does exactly the same. Infact most of my android handsets have done the same, must be due to the high processor power i guess.
When i have wi-fi off then the phone doesnt heat.
I think this happen cause of of many apps running in the background.
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I never use the wi-fi on my handset apart from tethering, which is only occasionally but my handset heats up whilst playing games.
I think it's just down to the size of the handset. To fit everything into such a small body, all the components have to be very close together and that will impact how heat dissipates.
Think about laptops, they get noticeably warm when under heavy load in a way that desktop PCs tend not to, because there's more room in them for air to move and heat to dissipate - it's just the same but on a smaller scale, the differences in size of phones is obviously much smaller but so is the amount of heat being produced/power being used.
I would just like to say that the arc does not heat up very much, compared to an Atrix, that is. That phone regularly reaches up to 36c, and people have told me that going up to ~50 was NORMAL for it (eg using GPS navigation). The top portion also most likely holds the CPU and the rest of the components. I wouldn't worry about it too much..My arc is frequently around 30c during use. I think the battery life is quite good though
yup I thought so..its gotta do more with the size of the arc and what all it can do...and if you can go upto 50C then there is a long way to go.....
however, take for example my dell streak..its a 5 inch screen in a body which is 9.9mm thin...so a big phone and pretty thin but still it doesnt heat up too much...
on the other hand think about the Samsung galaxy s2...8.49 mm and a dual core processor...probably be a fireball after you play graphic intensive games on it for sometime..
Noticed it as well. My advice ?
Step 1. Buy a silicone gel casing.
Step 2. Place it around your phone.
Step 3. ???
Step 4. Profit.
Basically just ignore it - I'm pretty sure up to 40 celsius is alright, and the only reason why you notice it so much on Arc is because of how thin the device is. With summer coming though, I'd lay off gaming in direct sunlight
I once had quite a long session of angry birds; And after I quit, my temp was at 44゜C
Regardless of unhealthy temperature, it's still working up till now.
mine averages around 35. my 3G is always on and when on skype vc for a long time, it hits 43/44 too. but its due to the thinness of the handset.
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however, take for example my dell streak..its a 5 inch screen in a body which is 9.9mm thin...so a big phone and pretty thin but still it doesnt heat up too much...
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It make not be incredibly thick but given the size of it's footprint, the components can probably be spaced out a bit more allowing the heat to dissipate more effectively.
My arc also heating up when I play dungen defender is really really hot especially the LCD screen...i feel that the tempreture is more than 60C ... will it damage the phone?
Jesus people, youre running a 1GHz CPU and a 3D graphics card flat out in a package not much bigger than a PCMCIA card, i think you can expect it to get a little warm.
When i think about the size of the heatsink+fan i had fitted to my first 1GHz desktop CPU to keep it from melting itself into a puddle of silicon, i'm amazed that modern phones manage to keep from spontaneously combusting.
^ what he said. remember, with higher processing power comes with higher heat discharge.
kinda offtopic but compared to the x10 where the cpu is under the battery, the heat would transfer to the battery causing it to overheat and reboot. i'm glad SE placed the cpu away from the battery.
it also seems like they've added a larger metallic plate (can be seen under the battery) in the Arc for improved heat dissipation.
+1. although bat temperature almost the same with my old phone, arc definitely feel err, cooler?
Hi guys,
My first time to post here, I know its normal for arc s to heat up when playing games. But is it also normal if on idle? it heats up to 38 degrees celcius. It concerns me because it drains my battery so much. Thanks!
all CPUs nowadays have a temperature threshold up to 70°C .. that means if the phone hits this temperature it will shutdown automatically, if this doesnt happen you dont have to worry and i think you will feel the difference between 40 and 70°C
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all CPUs nowadays have a temperature threshold up to 70°C .. that means if the phone hits this temperature it will shutdown automatically, if this doesnt happen you dont have to worry and i think you will feel the difference between 40 and 70°C
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Thanks for clarifying mate . What concerns me though is when its idle after charging @100% sittin' there say like 10-20 mins, check battery and boom! almost 50% was lost.
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got my arc a few days back...apart from suffering from poor battery issues, I have noticed that ................
my dell streak on the other hand rarely crosses 30C even on heavy gaming...
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This thread of mine might help you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540385
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Just got myself a Nexus 7 with 3G and Wifi about 3 weeks ago. Overall this is a great tablet and I love it. But playing games on this device will make it heats up quite abit on the back left bottom corner. I knw that every devices nowadays will heat up when playing games, surfing the web or even using mobile data.
And I was wondering, do any of you guys still play games on it when the device gets warm or in between warm or hot? I feel a lil disappointed because the Nexus 7's gaming experience and performance was good but the only downside is it gets warm in about 15 mins and and gets warmer at 30 mins of playing games ( high end games like Dead Trigger etc. ). And it's a pity that I cannot enjoy longer hours of gaming on this device ( which is 1 of the reasons I bought it ).
And also I wanted to ask, can anyone pls tell me how warm or hot is your device when playing games? What I mean was let's say I was playing a high end game and the temperature of the tablet is around 50 c. To me, I might feel that it's a little too hot but to others, they might feel that it's jus warm. Would greatly appreciate all of your answers and advises.
Thank you.
Well, to love something also means to accept it for what it is... So, show it some love... lol! Jokes aside...
It's perfectly normal for a device to heat up when it has to be at a higher clock speed to crunch high levels of data.
This happens to pc's all the time, we dont feel it cuz all the hardware is in a case being cooled by fans. Laptops too, try gaming with a macbook pro on your lap, i swear hard boiled eggs could come out by the end of it. lol! An ipad or even much inferior in performance tablets to the n7 do heat up. Nevertheless things are improving, nowadays processors are getting more power efficient which translates to less heat for the amout of processing power they have, which is much much more compared to the past. Mayb in the future we'll have something with the processing power of a mainframe but as cold as the n7 currently is, then mayb it can be downclocked and downvolted to levels where its as cold as a can of coke while retaining reasonable performance, but it wont happen today...
Yea, the n7 does get warm but if it really bothers you it can be solved if you use a thick sturdy case with it... I use it for that reason, also it seems to prevent screen lift in my case, not to mention protection against accidents =>
50°C isn't very hot, mine gets that hot during normal usage and it can go much higher.
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andrew9292 said:
Well, to love something also means to accept it for what it is... So, show it some love... lol! Jokes aside...
It's perfectly normal for a device to heat up when it has to be at a higher clock speed to crunch high levels of data.
This happens to pc's all the time, we dont feel it cuz all the hardware is in a case being cooled by fans. Laptops too, try gaming with a macbook pro on your lap, i swear hard boiled eggs could come out by the end of it. lol! An ipad or even much inferior in performance tablets to the n7 do heat up. Nevertheless things are improving, nowadays processors are getting more power efficient which translates to less heat for the amout of processing power they have, which is much much more compared to the past. Mayb in the future we'll have something with the processing power of a mainframe but as cold as the n7 currently is, then mayb it can be downclocked and downvolted to levels where its as cold as a can of coke while retaining reasonable performance, but it wont happen today...
Yea, the n7 does get warm but if it really bothers you it can be solved if you use a thick sturdy case with it... I use it for that reason, also it seems to prevent screen lift in my case, not to mention protection against accidents =>
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LoL! Anyway, thank you so much for the reply and explaining. I'd never knew that the ipad would heat up too haha. Do you think I should underclock my device? Well, been trying to use a case but on the opposite side am afraid that the case would trap heat inside the device itself. But Im using it anyway lol... And I have to agree with you cases really do help alot in protection against accidents.
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50°C isn't very hot, mine gets that hot during normal usage and it can go much higher.
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I see. Mine would be about 45-50 c during daily use and gaming. But 1 thing I do notice is that the device is actually not warm at all when I stream and watch videos using the youtube app. Anyway, thanks!.
Ok, I searched the forum about this topic and didn't really find anything answering my questions. I'm currently coming from a Droid RAZR and it ran hot to say the least. I can't get a straight answer on this phone's operating temperatures and I'm trying to determine whether to put a thick case on or not(with almost no bezel, I'm paranoid it will break on first drop). From what I've read, about 60% of people aren't reporting very much heat. The other 40% say there is a huge problem and most have had to replace their phones thinking it was a defect.
When it came to my RAZR, at rest with a case on, battery temperature would sit at just under 87 F. Under heavy use, I've hit over 124 F. Without a case, 83 F, the highest I've hit is just under 117 F. Extremely significant when you can't remove the battery and swap it out. I believe that it led to it's premature failure. I want to avoid that with this phone.
Is anybody keeping track of their phone and battery temperatures?
What apps and/or widgits do you use?
What is the normal at rest temperature?
What is the heavy use temperature?
Thanks everyone. My phone gets here in a few days and I want to be ready with a case.
I don't keep track of it. However this phone does get really hot (uncomfortable to hold) when playing games. With Tpu cases this was less noticeable. But lately I installed skinomi stickers for back protector, and it always bother me when it gets hot this way.
That being said, normal uses such as Internet, music, YouTube, xda, camera.... The phone only becomes slightly warm.
-LG G2
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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Ok, I searched the forum about this topic and didn't really find anything answering my questions. I'm currently coming from a Droid RAZR and it ran hot to say the least. I can't get a straight answer on this phone's operating temperatures and I'm trying to determine whether to put a thick case on or not(with almost no bezel, I'm paranoid it will break on first drop). From what I've read, about 60% of people aren't reporting very much heat. The other 40% say there is a huge problem and most have had to replace their phones thinking it was a defect.
When it came to my RAZR, at rest with a case on, battery temperature would sit at just under 87 F. Under heavy use, I've hit over 124 F. Without a case, 83 F, the highest I've hit is just under 117 F. Extremely significant when you can't remove the battery and swap it out. I believe that it led to it's premature failure. I want to avoid that with this phone.
Is anybody keeping track of their phone and battery temperatures?
What apps and/or widgits do you use?
What is the normal at rest temperature?
What is the heavy use temperature?
Thanks everyone. My phone gets here in a few days and I want to be ready with a case.
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Admittedly, I'm not a gamer but the only times I've felt the device get hot enough to register with the Incipio Feather case were: 1) after a wipe/flash, and all my apps were downloading again from the Play Store and 2) when wiping and the device was plugged into the wall charger (CPU temp was around 100 degrees) - other than these 2 instances, I've never felt heat thru my Feather case.
kcharng said:
I don't keep track of it. However this phone does get really hot (I'm looking for.comfortable to hold) when playing games. With Tpu cases this was less noticeable. But lately I installed skinomi stickers for back protector, and it always bother me when it gets hot this way.
That being said, normal uses such as Internet, music, YouTube, xda, camera.... The phone only becomes slightly warm.
-LG G2
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The case I had been using with the RAZR was a TPU hybrid. I also went to a skin because of the heat. I don't think I cando that with this phone. I'm too clumsy.
WhiteZero said:
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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Exactly why I'm concerned.
giri0n said:
Admittedly, I'm not a gamer but the only times I've felt the device get hot enough to register with the Incipio Feather case were: 1) after a wipe/flash, and all my apps were downloading again from the Play Store and 2) when wiping and the device was plugged into the wall charger (CPU temp was around 100 degrees) - other than these 2 instances, I've never felt heat thru my Feather case.
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I was actually looking at getting the dual pro. Thanks for the feedback. Exactly the type I'm looking for.
Honestly i just replaced my phone due to overheating issues. It would literally shut down or restart just running the camera for too long. After reading some other reports in the forums I decided to send it in and get a replacement. My new one came in yesterday and absolutely no overheating issues. Even can run antutu without a reboot (my other G2 would reboot about 14% in). So from my experience there was a batch that had some thermal issues... I got mine the first day it came out. Loving this second one
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Honestly i just replaced my phone due to overheating issues. It would literally shut down or restart just running the camera for too long. After reading some other reports in the forums I decided to send it in and get a replacement. My new one came in yesterday and absolutely no overheating issues. Even can run antutu without a reboot (my other G2 would reboot about 14% in). So from my experience there was a batch that had some thermal issues... I got mine the first day it came out. Loving this second one
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Does anybody know if we can track manufacture/release date using the serial numbers?
I am using this case full time: http://goo.gl/0u05G5
I use Battery and CPU-Z to check battery temps. Even with over an hour of straight gaming, I have yet to see it get above 98F. I constanty run the screen at 80% brightness as well, as that can be a contributing factor. The games I have played this long with are Riptide GP and Madden 25.
You really cant feel any heat through this case, and hand temps are too subjective anyway.
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yeah, especially while gaming.. and it's not the battery drain that concerns me, the heat is ridiculous for long term gaming..
and slapping a case would be good for your hand but not for your phone
plus there's not one manufacturer that make cases for heavy gaming yet..
i wonder what the case would look like if it was made for dissapating heat.. probably has a lot of thermal pipelines built in that would be awesome..
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I am using this case full time: http://goo.gl/0u05G5
I use Battery and CPU-Z to check battery temps. Even with over an hour of straight gaming, I have yet to see it get above 98F. I constanty run the screen at 80% brightness as well, as that can be a contributing factor. The games I have played this long with are Riptide GP and Madden 25.
You really cant feel any heat through this case, and hand temps are too subjective anyway.
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One thing I've noticed from people's screenshots is that the screen doesn't use that much battery. My RAZR would sometimes draw 46%. I'm sure that also contributed to the heat. smh.
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yeah, especially while gaming.. and it's not the battery drain that concerns me, the heat is ridiculous for long term gaming..
and slapping a case would be good for your hand but not for your phone
plus there's not one manufacturer that make cases for heavy gaming yet..
i wonder what the case would look like if it was made for dissapating heat.. probably has a lot of thermal pipelines built in that would be awesome..
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lol, I've actually thought about making a case like that, then I realized if there was a way to burn myself, I'd find it.
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I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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I'm currently in the design step of a case that uses tubing to disperse heat at the top corners of the phone to cool it down and keep heat away from the hand.
If you'd like to give input shoot me a pm and we can discuss it further.
OnT: I very rarely pass 24c on mine, then again I never game on my phone either. Highest I've hit was 42c during some testing.
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Are you guys talking about battery temps or cpu temps?
Get the app CpuTemp from play store, it overlays cpu temp while you're doing whatever, enable only the top two options, enable overlay and start on boot.
Then get stability test app and run the first option at top, classic test.
Then report back here with your temp after you do the stress test for about 27 seconds. I hit 66c after 27 seconds.
Curious to see what everyone else hits.
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Are you guys talking about battery temps or cpu temps?
Get the app CpuTemp from play store, it overlays cpu temp while you're doing whatever, enable only the top two options, enable overlay and start on boot.
Then get stability test app and run the first option at top, classic test.
Then report back here with your temp after you do the stress test for about 27 seconds. I hit 66c after 27 seconds.
Curious to see what everyone else hits.
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Max temp i got is 60c
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my phone will sit around 40C idle and around 70C under heavy load.
using xposed module to show in notification bar
Is overheating an issue when wifi tethering? I want to use this thing for desktop PC games and downloads; does it overheat after hours and hours of intense wifi hotspot use?
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Is overheating an issue when wifi tethering? I want to use this thing for desktop PC games and downloads; does it overheat after hours and hours of intense wifi hotspot use?
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I have used it for a couple hours and it gets warm. Not warm enough for me to worry about checking the temperature.
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I have used it for a couple hours and it gets warm. Not warm enough for me to worry about checking the temperature.
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Thanks for your feedback. Would you say it was with heavy usage?
I have made the tests , and i get 72 °C after 1:20 secs running the standard test. About 35 °C in idle,and about 50-55 °C when i am using the phone for facebook,browser,youtube. Is this ok? (These are Cpu Temps).
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I have made the tests , and i get 72 °C after 1:20 secs running the standard test. About 35 °C in idle,and about 50-55 °C when i am using the phone for facebook,browser,youtube. Is this ok? (These are Cpu Temps).
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My G2 gets also around 55°C when using the phone normally (youtube, browser, etc.) and over 67-68°C while gaming. I think this is normal for a high frequency 4 cores CPU. Right?
Hey, I received my LG G2 yesterday and i've been experiencing cpu temperatures of:
42-48C being idle
52-59C during browsing, facebook, viber etc
62-64C when on youtube (after the first 5 seconds)
65C when on gps
As for the stress test after 1:20 and up to 20:00 it was around 72-74 C
The phone feels hot all the time though with no apparent reason.
Screen brightness is set to 30% all the time, 3g connection is off and I only keep Wi-fi on. I even tried turning off features like gestures, I don't know if it is of any relevance.
Of course I haven't trying gaming yet, since I'm not really interested in it, but I want my smartphone to be functional without burning up.
Should I return it and ask for a replacement? Or is it an issue with LG G2 or Snapdragon 800 generally? Will it be a waste of time?
hello all.. I just wanted to understand how z5 compact cpu Temps are under normal usage (basic phone usage messaging, youtube video, basic camera usage, browsing and reading articles).. for example my oneplus one running on snapdragon 801 typically hovers between 33-38 for majority of the tasks.. I understand no phone is the same.. different people have different experiences...Through this thread I would like draw some patterns and conclusions.. thanks!
Just installed a cpu temperature monitoring app to check.(cpu temperature by mooncakes from playstore)
From what I can see (if it shows the correct sensor) it hovers between 28 - 33.
Using a "regular" Z5, though.
While browsing/messaging/youtube for prolonged periods I am usually at around 35-40c.
Gaming with 2d usually stays at around 40c and 3d is at around 50c.
Installing and updating apps usually generates most heat with temps of around 50c+ but fortunately its not something that happens often.
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While browsing/messaging/youtube for prolonged periods I am usually at around 35-40c.
Gaming with 2d usually stays at around 40c and 3d is at around 50c.
Installing and updating apps usually generates most heat with temps of around 50c+ but fortunately its not something that happens often.
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Maybe u could add which app you use, I edited my post too.
Also, I think while shooting 4k video and using the AR effects for prolonged time the temp wil go above 50°c (I'll have to test) but the sd810 probably handles more.
At my old Z running a snapdragon s4 pro shutdown temperatures are around 78°c or so.
thanks guyz.. again.. just to clarify.. we can exclude the extreme cases.. like shooting 4k and prolonged gaming.. these are known to stress the cpu.. I am curious to understand how bad it is during normal usage.. hopefully this will allow others to make informed decisions.. I have mine coming tomorrow!
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thanks guyz.. again.. just to clarify.. we can exclude the extreme cases.. like shooting 4k and prolonged gaming.. these are known to stress the cpu.. I am curious to understand how bad it is during normal usage.. hopefully this will allow others to make informed decisions.. I have mine coming tomorrow!
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Well, under normal conditions nothing to worry about. (in my opinion not even under heavy load, Z5 is supplied with a dual heatpipe - but that you'll probably already noticed lol)
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Well, under normal conditions nothing to worry about. (in my opinion not even under heavy load, Z5 is supplied with a dual heatpipe - but that you'll probably already noticed lol)
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z5c doesn't have the heat pipe based cooling.. hence the worry
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z5c doesn't have the heat pipe based cooling.. hence the worry
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? It obviously has.
yubeie said:
z5c doesn't have the heat pipe based cooling.. hence the worry
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Oh I thought it had.
Then I understand
only the z5 and z5p have the heat pipes.. z5c doesn't unfortunately.
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Maybe u could add which app you use, I edited my post too.
Also, I think while shooting 4k video and using the AR effects for prolonged time the temp wil go above 50°c (I'll have to test) but the sd810 probably handles more.
At my old Z running a snapdragon s4 pro shutdown temperatures are around 78°c or so.
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I'm using the Cputemp app which has a cool option that adds the cpu temperature to the header of the phone (where the time and battery life reside) so the temperature is constantly under check.
I'll add also that battery temperature is usually at around 30-35c and if you're doing something heavy for a long while it will rise to 40-43c
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only the z5 and z5p have the heat pipes.. z5c doesn't unfortunately.
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What **** are you talking? It has, for gods sake.
Premium has dual heat pipes as rest has only single i guess.
My temps are between +17 - +38 last 5 days (no gaming)
Idle temp at night usually +20 or little bit under.
Web browsing get temp usually up to +35
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Premium has dual heat pipes as rest has only single i guess.
My temps are between +17 - +38 last 5 days (no gaming)
Idle temp at night usually +20 or little bit under.
Web browsing get temp usually up to +35
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No, all 3 models have dual-heatpipes. Seriously, what the **** is up with you guys? The last model with 1 heatpipe was Z4.
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No, all 3 models have dual-heatpipes. Seriously, what the **** is up with you guys? The last model with 1 heatpipe was Z4.
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Don't be like that
guyz.. easy.. let's keep the discussion civil... its okay... if a person is right or wrong.. there is absolutely no need for cursing.. I went through https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony+Xperia+Z5C+Teardown/53206 and there is no sign of it.. you can look at z5 or z5p on the other hand and you'll find it.
check out step 12 through 14.. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony+Xperia+Z5+Teardown/52300.. this one uses it.
I already posted it in a an thread, but here it seems more relevant.
I made a small video showing my Xperia z5 compact overheating.
Just with browsing the CPU can reach temperatures of 50 - 60° in 7 minutes.
This happens while browzing at other sites too. CPU throttles bit by bit and it gets really warm.
This makes the back of the phone very very uncomfortable to hold and i can't imaging how hot it will get in the summer or under the sun.
Can you please give me a feedback on that because I am thinking of returning it.
There is something wrong with the cpu temp app that you are using..I just tested two apps simultaneously on my oneplus one...The app you used reported 46C while the "cooler master" app reported 33.3c attached is the screenshot!
There is no way my phone was at 46 because..the phone pretty cool..So I suspect the app is not reporting it right...not sure where it's getting the info from.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3iq8arqy5fcupex/Screenshot_2015-12-21-14-25-10.png?dl=0
Okay.....I performed extensive testing in the past two days regarding the temps to understand the behavior....Here are the details..
I used my old oneplusone and z5 compact to compare 1. perceived heat (based on touching the device) and 2. actual temp readings from the app devcheck pro.
Regarding temp readings, I monitored both CPU as well as battery temps. I generally felt, the "perceived heat" comes into play only once battery heats up as this lines up along the back of the phone.
Test performed: Used flipboard and news republic apps for 5-6minutes. Then opened chrome dev browser app and loaded "cricinfo.com" website. This web-page is flash intensive and has tons of content. I kept repeatedly navigating through the webpages and accessing links. The idea was to perform intensive web-browsing.
Note that both phones had TPU cases on them.
Here are my findings:
-Both the phone's CPUs start off at 37-40c and gradually hit 55-65c. Interestingly, I noticed that oneplus one at times hit almost 73-75c!! whereas z5c never hit this limit (perhaps due to thermal throttling???).
-The battery temps steadily rose from 27c to 38-40c.
Attached is a screenshot for your reference.
-On both phones, the temps rose almost around the same time (about 7-10mins into the test). I felt at some-point z5c was being throttled to maintain temp thresholds. However, I did not notice any "visible" performance drops.
The key thing to note: The back of the oneplus one was slightly warm. Whereas z5c was pretty warm (although not uncomfortable). I think this is exactly where the user gets worried, thinking the phone is overheating. The problem is the glass back as opposed to the padded material of the oneplus one. The glass surface of z5c almost immediately starts conducting heat and quickly heats up.
After letting the phones cool, almost within 10minutes, both the phone temps dropped pretty quickly.
Hi i bought the device two days ago and whenever i use it (i start opening Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp and other apps) it gets Pretty warm in the right side or the screen and behind. The CPU reaches 50 degrees and sometimes 55 and the worries me. What should i do? Is it normal or should i return it? I previously had an Honor 7 and it reaches the same temps but it doesnt feel that warm at the touch, it Just gets warm in the bottom left corner.
the temp while i'm typing is 41C, outside its 33degrees C and inside(where i am now) its 24degrees.
I do not believe this is normal whatsoever. My S8+ has been one of the coolest-running Samsung phones I have ever owned. You might want to return/exchange it if that is possible.
I have not used/tested with any apps to determine actual Temps but it never gets hot. It gets warmer but not very hot (like my S7 Edge did) when using Gear VR.
Have you done the simple things like closing all apps & rebooting? Clearing cache, etc? Maybe some app is "stuck."
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burrzoo said:
I do not believe this is normal whatsoever. My S8+ has been one of the coolest-running Samsung phones I have ever owned. You might want to return/exchange it if that is possible.
I have not used/tested with any apps to determine actual Temps but it never gets hot. It gets warmer but not very hot (like my S7 Edge did) when using Gear VR.
Have you done the simple things like closing all apps & rebooting? Clearing cache, etc? Maybe some app is "stuck."
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Yes i tried everything
After how long of using these apps does it get warm, right away or after 5-10 minutes?
peachpuff said:
After how long of using these apps does it get warm, right away or after 5-10 minutes?
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I would say 5mins. Now it gets maximum 48 degrees in the CPU but i feel the screen and the body Pretty warm... Maybe it's me... I don't know. Feel free ti suggest me what should i do
it is absolutely not normal
my first device share the same issue with your's
well i ask for a exchange, the new unit just go to 45 when running games, most of time it wouldn't even reach 40 degrees
but
new device came with new problems, red tints, home button problem
it's up to you
ask for replacement until you'er satisfy with it
I would get an exchange(Yeah right the real me would hold on to it until it melted because i'm lazy). So far this is the coolest smart device I have ever owned. Even when playing intense 3d games and emulators it only warms up a little.
Thanks Guys! I'm going to return it on Monday.
Pijam27 said:
I would say 5mins. Now it gets maximum 48 degrees in the CPU but i feel the screen and the body Pretty warm... Maybe it's me... I don't know. Feel free ti suggest me what should i do
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If you're constantly scrolling and opening posts the phone will get warm, Facebook isn't exactly a battery friendly app, but if you're stuck at a post and reading it for a while it shouldn't get warm, it really depends how you use the phone. I can get my phone warm using twitter too. My friends z5 with the sd810 gets toasty.
peachpuff said:
If you're constantly scrolling and opening posts the phone will get warm, Facebook isn't exactly a battery friendly app, but if you're stuck at a post and reading it for a while it shouldn't get warm, it really depends how you use the phone. I can get my phone warm using twitter too. My friends z5 with the sd810 gets toasty.
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Well i dont know what to do... I'm going to return it anyway and see if it gets better. Thanks for your help.
Mate. The CPU throttles when it reaches 80C. What are you worrying about?
I advise reading your manual, which specifically tells you that the device will heat up with use and the heatpipe is located on the top right section of the phone x)
The reason why it may feel hotter than your previous (?) phone is because the metal rim (and whole body) acts as a heat spreader and the heatpipe connects to it with a thermal pad.
Skander1998 said:
Mate. The CPU throttles when it reaches 80C. What are you worrying about?
I advise reading your manual, which specifically tells you that the device will heat up with use and the heatpipe is located on the top right section of the phone x)
The reason why it may feel hotter than your previous (?) phone is because the metal rim (and whole body) acts as a heat spreader and the heatpipe connects to it with a thermal pad.
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Okay but the warm feel is annoying.
Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
Majin101 said:
Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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Let him get a new device. It's a better idea instead of dealing with that crap.
s4shield said:
Let him get a new device. It's a better idea instead of dealing with that crap.
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Trueee ?
Cpu temps keeps spiking up and down on any device that actually has a cpu.
What you need to look for is battery temp and not cpu temps. I consider battery temps a more steady measure of over heating rather than cpu as they dont spike.
Eitherways heavy bad background apps will make any device hot. Now if your just browsing on chrome with no background apps and your device temp ( battery temp ) is around 40c in a 20c room thats when ill be worried and exchange the device.
But hey thats just me
Gd luck !
Majin101 said:
Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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It's already low
Vcaddy said:
Cpu temps keeps spiking up and down on any device that actually has a cpu.
What you need to look for is battery temp and not cpu temps. I consider battery temps a more steady measure of over heating rather than cpu as they dont spike.
Eitherways heavy bad background apps will make any device hot. Now if your just browsing on chrome with no background apps and your device temp ( battery temp ) is around 40c in a 20c room thats when ill be worried and exchange the device.
But hey thats just me
Gd luck !
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That's exactly what happens to me...
i also have the feeling that the phone get's warm. G950FD
i received yesterday, and im comparison to my OP2 this one feels all time warm.
just looked at the battery temp and it's @ 35,8°C... i will look out for the temp, and see if it changes
i also have the feeling that the phone get's warm. G950FD
i received yesterday, and im comparison to my OP2 this one feels all time warm.
just looked at the battery temp and it's @ 35,8°C... i will look out for the temp, and see if it changes
Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
trueiceman said:
Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
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Sorry but if it's overheating then it's a safety feature.
I'm sure you wouldn't prefer to be playing whilst you're phone is on fire.
I'm short, no it cannot be disabled, which I'm glad of as people would just point their finger at OnePlus.
*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
gsser said:
*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
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Hahah.
Do this with a PC when it's throttling.
Call the fire brigade first just incase
blackhawk said:
Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
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Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
dladz said:
Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
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Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
its not like i leave it dim when it automatically dims., i raise the brightness right away and do this until im done with my gaming session. Phone doesnt catch fire. Thanks for the thermal tip.
blackhawk said:
Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
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Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
dladz said:
Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
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It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
blackhawk said:
It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
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That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
dladz said:
That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
blackhawk said:
A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
dladz said:
They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
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It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
blackhawk said:
It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
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Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
dladz said:
Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
manager.
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
I think a case with some space In it would help with heat dissipation..
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
Certainly shouldn't have to but needs must.
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Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
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The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
dladz said:
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
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With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
dladz said:
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There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
dladz said:
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
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I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
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The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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The Snapdragon variants are notoriously hard to root. They also have a good vapor phase heatpipe on the SOC.
Not worth it as they run well now