2.3.4 tw4 - Galaxy S I9000 General

Will galaxy s get 2.3.4 with the video calling? And do you think we will get tw4?
Galaxy S - no point in writing rom or kernel constantly changing!

No no and no samsung will not release tw4 because of sales to the galaxy s 2 I don't think they will sell as many as the galaxy s 1

Why wouldn't we get 2.3.4?
Galaxy S - no point in writing rom or kernel constantly changing!

look how long it has took to get 2.3.3 and even that is not available world wide and it is still in BETA mode.
2.3.3 will be the last official update from samsung.
but im sure in time we may get 2.3.4 and higher if the devs keep interest and dont move on to another device
SGS 1 has had unofficial - custom 2.3.3 since before the 2.3.3 rumours started, so have faith

CM7 on SGS is 2.3.4 already
While I doubt Samsung will release 2.3.4, possibility of that is in my opinion higher than releasing official TW4 for SGS.

TW4 has been ported from the SGS 2, and is available in development section.
so wouldnt that satisfy your cravings for now ??

Most likely .
2.3.3 or even .4 when its sorted uploaded to servers .
Future SGS 2 updates first lets say to 2.5 .
SGS 1 will get 2.5 at a later date once differences are removed .
But really it all depends upon how long Samsung want to continue building and selling SGS 1 . If costs are right for the build then i can see Samsung dropping the cost and making the SGS1 a mid market product .
But all the talk is hissing in the wind as we are not Samsung .
jje

Anyone, any idea on wifi direct being introduced to galaxy s like they said it would be or your think it will only be available to s2?
Galaxy S - no point in writing rom or kernel constantly changing!

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azzledazzle said:
2.3.3 will be the last official update from samsung.
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stop talking like you know this for sure. you have no clue.

airf0rce said:
CM7 on SGS is 2.3.4 already
While I doubt Samsung will release 2.3.4, possibility of that is in my opinion higher than releasing official TW4 for SGS.
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It not stable though

I don't get the point.....tw4 and 2.3.4 are already available as ports or independent development and IMHO custom ROMS have always been faster and better than original...even 2.3.3 is not still available in many countries, so what's the reason to wait longer for the original ??

gbnz said:
I don't get the point.....tw4 and 2.3.4 are already available as ports or independent development and IMHO custom ROMS have always been faster and better than original...even 2.3.3 is not still available in many countries, so what's the reason to wait longer for the original ??
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Well not many people have the time or want to risk bricking their phone. I completely understand. Before I started flashing roms I waited patiently for Samsung to issue an update to deal with the lag.

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jangyelo said:
Well not many people have the time or want to risk bricking their phone. I completely understand. Before I started flashing roms I waited patiently for Samsung to issue an update to deal with the lag.
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Galaxy S - no point in writing rom or kernel constantly changing!

evil-doer said:
stop talking like you know this for sure. you have no clue.
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i know a guy, whos uncles sister, had kids with this man from the US. and his cousins room-mate was once engaged to a woman who slept with a man who works at samsung...
so yes i do have a clue

is tw4 available for cm7?

suay said:
is tw4 available for cm7?
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CM7 is Pure Android, so no TW4 or anything from Samsung.

Bah.. Love to see that workin on cm7

Is cm7 bug free and every thing works

it still has bugs, biggest one being battery drain.
majority of things work, there are still things such as MKV playback and 720p recording.
these will be fixed soon hopefully

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Galaxy S likely to Get Froyo from this week !!!

http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5196562-samsung-starts-froyo-updates-
Check out this thread for FROYO by SamFirmWare
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Samsung Starts with Froyo updates next week.
They start with Europe.
After Europe the will go to Asia and Africa.
Every Galaxy S user could update his device with Samsung Kies.
Or with our way. (ODIN)
The firmwares will be XWJPA or XXJPO. (For Europe)
Both firmwares leaked on our website already.
So if you want you could download them and update your mobile!
Good Luck!
Remember after this Release Samsung keep supporting your device!
So please check weekly Samsung Kies or our website!
Why we think this are the KIES releases?
When you checked all newsmessages you find out that Samsung removed JPM from his servers.
A couple of days ago SamsungMobileUK place on his facebook and twitter that they start in begin November till the end of November for all operators.
When we check now the new Firmware versions it could be the new KIES releases. For Europe and Scandinavian.
Every Galaxy S phone will have Android 2.2 before 2011!
We have currently no information for the Samsung I5800 and I5500.
But JPA has many bugs... This is the famous new and fast FW?
I wonder how many will sell their devices if this is true?
almaalma74 said:
But JPA has many bugs... This is the famous new and fast FW?
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This has been said over a billion times, no software will be w/o bugs. Even HTC devices are pretty buggy.. Probably the one with the least bugs is the Nexus 1.
SkinBobUk said:
I wonder how many will sell their devices if this is true?
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I know I won't.
I love the phone and I am on 2.1.
I can't see what's the big deal with froyo. None of the features it brings are groundbreaking (maybe with the exception of flash 10).
I don't think I would upgrade anyway...
allotrios said:
I know I won't.
I love the phone and I am on 2.1.
I can't see what's the big deal with froyo. None of the features it brings are groundbreaking (maybe with the exception of flash 10).
I don't think I would upgrade anyway...
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Alot of new apps need 2.2. eg new Gmail app, Youtube app, Skype only seems to work on 2.2 with SGS, to name a few.
Nammmmmmmmmmm
psp888 said:
Alot of new apps need 2.2. eg new Gmail app, Youtube app, Skype only seems to work on 2.2 with SGS, to name a few.
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That's nice, but I don't think any of these updates are "must have" for me. The changes on the gmail app are not essential for me. I don't use youtube that much and when I use it I find it good enough and the skype implementation is not bringing video calls, so I don't want it.
If and when something amazing comes to 2.2 that I definitely must have, I may upgrade. Until then I would rather see bug fixes than new features as the phone already does a lot!
running jp6 with a modded kernel (341 megs by hardcore!), and its extremely quick and stable! i totally love my sgs the way it is now and have very few things to whine about
i just want samsung to commit on gingerbread for our devices
So, that "fast" FW samfirmware was talking about is going to be just a firmware with less lags than in pulled scandinavian official Froyo? That sucks, because my phone feels laggy (black screens) even on JM9 with Voodoo. And lagfix is the ONLY thing that i need from new FWs.
At least we will have official Froyo.... be happy!
h.robert said:
At least we will have official Froyo.... be happy!
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I'm sorry but it's not cool. Samsung seems to have this strange policy to release high-end devices and not provide proper support for them.
Right now I'm using JPK with OCLF and Launcher Pro Plus and I'm happy with my phone. But both OCLF and Launcher Pro are third party apps.
There are tons of lagfix solutions and custom ROMs that are better than the stock ones.
Customizing your device must be a choice and not a necessity so you can get decent performance on a top-notch hardware.
And I keep getting the feeling that they leak ROMs intentionally and use XDA users as guinea pigs. And are using devs to fix the issues...
Sorry that my first post ever in this forum is so negative but I'm getting really mad and impatient with Samsung...
SkinBobUk said:
I wonder how many will sell their devices if this is true?
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after 3 months of waiting i finally decided to sell my loved SGS.
its a good phone, but a buggy one, in my opinion a bit to buggy.
I hope for u all there will be at least this "fast" new ROM out there soon.
Sociopathic said:
I'm sorry but it's not cool. Samsung seems to have this strange policy to release high-end devices and not provide proper support for them.
Right now I'm using JPK with OCLF and Launcher Pro Plus and I'm happy with my phone. But both OCLF and Launcher Pro are third party apps.
There are tons of lagfix solutions and custom ROMs that are better than the stock ones.
Customizing your device must be a choice and not a necessity so you can get decent performance on a top-notch hardware.
And I keep getting the feeling that they leak ROMs intentionally and use XDA users as guinea pigs. And are using devs to fix the issues...
Sorry that my first post ever in this forum is so negative but I'm getting really mad and impatient with Samsung...
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Yeah, the lagfixes are great, except when they corrupt your IMEI and cause other issues. You do get decent performance without them. The lag patches haven't been flawless either... And yes, despite the crap samsung gets, I used an iPhone 4 the other day, and it was taking MUCH longer to respond to minor things (despite the fact iphones use compiled code, so they should be even more responsive).
In regards to samfirmware, forget about the rumor sites, most of them have been consistently wrong, and haven't been using credible sources.
@Sociopathic: I have a friend with HTC Desire and Froyo for 4 months I guess and he's not happy... he feels that the Froyo update for his phone is not properly made.
My guess is Samsung was not prepared for Andorid's rise. Not even Google. So, we have to be pacient. Good things will come with Android. Samsung is moving slow because is a huge company with a lot of people to decide what and when goes online, each one pushing his interests. Someone wants Froyo so contain this, other that and so on...
Tolisan decided to sell his Galaxy S. He cut the **** and moved on.
Enjoy your Galaxy S or buy something else. I'm happy with mine! Best phone I ever had!
*yawn*
i'm more excited with the post about samsung's intention to make better pc software then kies
Why you complain everytime about bugs?
I use my phone often, and most of all "bugs" are PEBTAC.
(Problem exists between Touchscreen and chair).
But I'm wondering about the not optimized JIT.
Is it so difficult for Samsung to unleash the performance of the 1337 CPU?
And it's strange that they canceled JPM and made just minor changes.
That's what disappointed me
Gohst_oc said:
Why you complain everytime about bugs?
I use my phone often, and most of all "bugs" are PEBTAC.
(Problem exists between Touchscreen and chair).
But I'm wondering about the not optimized JIT.
Is it so difficult for Samsung to unleash the performance of the 1337 CPU?
And it's strange that they canceled JPM and made just minor changes.
That's what disappointed me
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JPM was possibly only a release candidate in the first place. And we don't know exactly what was fixed anyway. There may have been some less-common major bugs fixed.
In regards to optimising JIT, our JIT might be optimised, but might simply not be optimised for the benchmarks. Remember, most CPU benchmarks only test a small number of instructions.

[Q] Ice Cream sandwich Update!!!1

Will Samsung Galaxy S i9000 will get Official ICS Update?????????
anonim14 said:
Will Samsung Galaxy S i9000 will get Official ICS Update?????????
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From qhat I've read: no
I see no reason not to get it... Nexus S got it and runs it ultra fast. That means Galaxy S is more than capable of running it! Also, Nexus S needed to be updated to 2.3.6 to be able to upgrade. I believe we will see leaks for our devices as well. I think that is one reasons Samsung never released TouchWiz 4 for our device, I believe it will come in this ICS update (if they make one).
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That's day dreaming.
We will most likely not get TW4 but maybe if the planets align properly we will get ICS.
kraven001 said:
That's day dreaming.
We will most likely not get TW4 but maybe if the planets align properly we will get ICS.
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Day dreaming? Why would they port the old crappy TouchWiz 3 on ICS when they have an already ported and new version of TouchWiz 4?
Also... Samsung Wave got TouchWiz 4 in Bada 2.0 update, I don't see why Galaxy S won't get it in ICS (both are HUGE updates and both devices share the same hardware).
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To make their clients happy and keep staying with Samsung products? One thing is sure... if they update SGS to ICS, I will keep buying Samsung phones and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will do the same!
Nexus One doesn't have i9000's power...
I hate android fragmentation. SGS is capable to run ICS withouth any problems but its questionable will samsung release update. That fragmentation will cost android, now or later but it will damage androids reputation.
it is a WHEN question not IF
I hear samsung is going to ufficial update sgs to ics... but first sgs II...
Then lets keep our fingers crossed
Me thinks Samsung will not release ICS officially for SGS. But we will get CM9 anyway so I don't care
Dont mattet if samsung updates it..... see sig
TigerCourage said:
To make their clients happy and keep staying with Samsung products? One thing is sure... if they update SGS to ICS, I will keep buying Samsung phones and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will do the same!
Nexus One doesn't have i9000's power...
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Me too, I said it since 6 months.
nunogand said:
From qhat I've read: no
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pehh but gs is running stable
SGS_elko said:
Me too, I said it since 6 months.
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we all have to send a big bomb of mails to samsung!
if they support ics on i9000 it would be the first producer i would rebuy a phone
but i think
all updates should come from google directly like windows
pxrave said:
all updates should come from google directly like windows
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That's what I thought they'll achieve with ICS... and now we have some Galaxy Nexus models that won't get aosp update, what a mess.
But a lot of manufacturers are working fast on ICS, that's nice to see though (minus the bloat).
Wow, I saw right now a video on youtube with ICS 4.0.3 on Nexus S, it runs flawlessly and soooo smooth. I love the new Launcher from ICS, will it be possible to get it runing on our Galaxy S when we receive ICS officialy (at this moment I'm pretty shure that we will )?
SGS_elko said:
I love the new Launcher from ICS, will it be possible to get it runing on our Galaxy S?
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You'll be able at least to install something like this.

Galaxy SII ICS (Android 4.0.3) released. Galaxy Note next???

I just saw this on SamMobile firmware page:
GT-I9100 - I9100XXLPJ - Android 4.0.3 - 2012 February - I9100OXALPJ - Open Europe
See: sammobile.com/firmware
It's starting??? Finally????
Not sure if it's helpful for us for the N7000, i suppose that a few drivers are in common, but it lacks the system UI and SPen. The stock frequencies are also differents.
Futur 'll us
so what about note??
Does it support switching to a normal Android 4.0 Holo launcher??
What it really means is that now they can start working full time for us, so the leaks should start dropping again... I hope
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Galaxy S2 has been having ICS leaks for over a month now...?
As above ^ This really means nothing for us..
Here is the link as Korean SGII user uploaded the screenshot of the new ICS...
It is identical to the ones we got from the chinese leaked version which does not looks like pure ICS.
http://www.matcl.com/index.php?mid=fb3&document_srl=5304410
Samsung can`t launch a pure ICS, is the same in HTC... Samsung TW, HTC Sense :S... Port or wait to official release?
Cheers
gominolo2002 said:
Samsung can`t launch a pure ICS, is the same in HTC... Samsung TW, HTC Sense :S... Port or wait to official release?
Cheers
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/holo-theme-compatibility-standard-on-android-ics-explained/
mustang2012 said:
Here is the link as Korean SGII user uploaded the screenshot of the new ICS...
It is identical to the ones we got from the chinese leaked version which does not looks like pure ICS.
http://www.matcl.com/index.php?mid=fb3&document_srl=5304410
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Why would you ever think you were going to get a pure ICS?
Well will this be usefull for development. Becuase they have to release sources and Gnote is almost similar to SgS2.....
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Well, touchwiz it is still better than pure ics who can't even make folders in the drawer.
I have a nexus and I still using go launcher, the contact section it is a skin, the functions are the same.
But if you want stock ics wait some weeks for a rom
It seems that Samsung is currently deploying ICS in Asia and Europe, the ICS release for Note is going to follow.
Hope this will help devs to release custom ROMs without this crappy Touchwiz
I see where ICS for the SGS2 released by sammy has already been rooted.
The first few "official" releases should have numerous exploits that allow for
root without too much trouble.
I'll just be glad to get root back. I screwed up on the last update and did it
from Kies and lost root and don't want to jump through the hoops of downgrading,
wiping etc just to get root back, knowing the ICS update will probably wipe it all out again anyway.
joshnichols189 said:
Why would you ever think you were going to get a pure ICS?
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WHY NOT??? since it is called ICS right??
mustang2012 said:
WHY NOT??? since it is called ICS right??
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You mean the same way as the current software on the note is called GingerBread? Would you be shocked to know that you are not getting the stock gingerbread experience?
Raghav1980 said:
You mean the same way as the current software on the note is called GingerBread? Would you be shocked to know that you are not getting the stock gingerbread experience?
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I don't give a f--- what is the real stock gingerbread looks like.... all I am saying and lot of people out there who updated this ICS yesterday wish the user interface is the same as the one in the galaxy nexus... Lot of galaxy note users and few developers are creating custom rom that looks similar to the pure ICS .
So... what i am writing here is in my right and I don[t need to hear all this crap saying why would you want this update looks like pure ICS...
so if you guys have nothing better to do than complain about my thought then... go on have a good wank...... for f--- sake!!!
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I don't give a f--- what is the real stock gingerbread looks like.... all I am saying and lot of people out there who updated this ICS yesterday wish the user interface is the same as the one in the galaxy nexus... Lot of galaxy note users and few developers are creating custom rom that looks similar to the pure ICS .
So... what i am writing here is in my right and I don[t need to hear all this crap saying why would you want this update looks like pure ICS...
so if you guys have nothing better to do than complain about my thought then... go on have a good wank...... for f--- sake!!!
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Samsung will never, ever release a pure ICS.
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mustang2012 said:
WHY NOT??? since it is called ICS right??
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Touchwiz is Samung's way of branding their Android devices. If every manufacturer included stock Android in their phones, what would be the incentive to get one particular device over another, especially if the hardware of all high end devices from all manufacturers is almost identical? Unfortunately, if you want the stock Android experience you'll have to get a Nexus, or flash a stock rom built from the ICS source code. Can't have your cake and eat it too I guess..
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News regarding our beloved SGS1

Hey all, tried searching the forum to make sure this already wasnt posted up, and found nothing, so here it goes!
While doing some homework on the latest official ICS release for the SGS2, came across a thread somebody linked up in the SGS2 forums regarding the new firmware release, with that was some new info on new firmware to come for the SGS1 and other devices by months end! Looks like this could be that "Value Pack" that was leaked/talked about some months back. Although not ICS, at least Samsung still have the First gen galaxy still in mind - Check the link from their Facebook page! Apologies if this is already posted up somewhere, if not, go nuts peeps and start getting excited i guess
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
Good spot!
Wonder if it will be enough for people to switch back from the various custom roms, doubt it though. I'm happy with MIUI until phone upgrade time comes around.
szqnl said:
Good spot!
Wonder if it will be enough for people to switch back from the various custom roms, doubt it though. I'm happy with MIUI until phone upgrade time comes around.
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Majority of people with SGS are not on custom roms so it's good for them I guess.
Don't drink and tapatalk.
Fremen567 said:
Majority of people with SGS are not on custom roms so it's good for them I guess.
Don't drink and tapatalk.
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Not in this case.... If they do the same as with the ICS of SGS2, (but without ICS, just their crapy mod) you better look for a good custom ICS or enjoy gingerbread for the rest of you life...! Seriously, aosp ICSSGS works tremendously, you can consider it almost as stock ROM, and forget about Samsung and their ****...
Not to mention some carriers like Bell here in Canada are unlikely to push another update. Pretty sure they will leave it with the crappy 2.3.3 rom.
It may be interesting to see what they come up with but I doubt it will compare to ICS ports like ICSSGS. The big question will be lag and UI jerkiness: ICSSGS has almost none, it's night and day compare to any of the 2.1-2.3.x Samsung roms I've run.
It's probably just referring to the official release of the JVU value pack.
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Not in this case.... If they do the same as with the ICS of SGS2, (but without ICS, just their crapy mod) you better look for a good custom ICS or enjoy gingerbread for the rest of you life...! Seriously, aosp ICSSGS works tremendously, you can consider it almost as stock ROM, and forget about Samsung and their ****...
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As I said it's good for not-xda folks. And that translates to most of SGS owners.
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It's probably just referring to the official release of the JVU value pack.
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More than likely. But its been some time since that leaked, so no doubt the bugs that were present should be ironed out hopefully by now!
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Not to mention some carriers like Bell here in Canada are unlikely to push another update. Pretty sure they will leave it with the crappy 2.3.3 rom.
It may be interesting to see what they come up with but I doubt it will compare to ICS ports like ICSSGS. The big question will be lag and UI jerkiness: ICSSGS has almost none, it's night and day compare to any of the 2.1-2.3.x Samsung roms I've run.
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I can almost guarantee there wont be an update for carrier branded variants around the globe, just too much work for them in their eyes to deliver updates when they can sell something new an updated, and continue with the same cycle! Just look at the US, all the variants for each carrier and pretty much no love which has to suck! Whereas this news relates to unbranded handsets, which gets looked after just fine IMHO. Ok, updates arent always flying through but who really cares, as long as it works! I have an unlocked i9000 (euro version) and am now on the official JW1 (via kies) and have not had a single problem what so ever! But ill take whatever update that comes. If it keeps my SGS kicking till the S3 arrives, then im happy. Just good to hear Samsung is taking this stuff seriously. Again may not be ICS but still good on them for doing something. People can keep blaming Samsung for lack of updates, but most that do that are on branded handsets and should be hounding their carriers for an update!
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Not to mention some carriers like Bell here in Canada are unlikely to push another update. Pretty sure they will leave it with the crappy 2.3.3 rom.
It may be interesting to see what they come up with but I doubt it will compare to ICS ports like ICSSGS. The big question will be lag and UI jerkiness: ICSSGS has almost none, it's night and day compare to any of the 2.1-2.3.x Samsung roms I've run.
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really, 2.3.3? That's insulting! Could they pick any worse firmware to stick to? Anyway, carrier policy it's always hilarious... Why on earth has the galaxy mini better firmware than the galaxy S? (I know the answer, rhetorical question!)
Fremen567 said:
As I said it's good for not-xda folks. And that translates to most of SGS owners.
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Anyway, I don't think those customers will care at all... Cause if they cared, they wouldn't hesitate to flash any custom... I just think this value pack is useless whatsoever.

Samsung says our Vibrants can't do Ice Cream Sandwich

I counted about a dozen sweet Ice Cream Sandwich Roms in the Development forum based on at least three completely open source repo's.
I say up yours Samsung, we don't need your kind around here!!!
they said that cuz our phones dont have the memory to handle the ics using touchwiz framework
and i doubt they would ever remove it so no official update for us
papi5120 said:
they said that cuz our phones dont have the memory to handle the ics using touchwiz framework
and i doubt they would ever remove it so no official update for us
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They have a SGS II port in the i9000 forum that is ICS touchwiz and it seams to run pretty well, (they have a video, i tried to port it but the kernel is hacked to make it work) so really they just dont want to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521974
jeremy2420 said:
They have a SGS II port in the i9000 forum that is ICS touchwiz and it seams to run pretty well, (they have a video, i tried to port it but the kernel is hacked to make it work) so really they just dont want to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521974
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samsung u bastards! lol
I recommend checking out ICZen, im running rc 1.3 and its the best rom ive tested thus far.
Conkrete said:
I recommend checking out ICZen, im running rc 1.3 and its the best rom ive tested thus far.
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Already a Zenaholic...lol.
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Just ODIN>JFD>CM9 Alpha>Slim ICS
I'm enjoying Slim ICS far more than I expected. Looonnng time xda lurker, I hope I can bring something to the table.
They want us all to spend more money on newer phones.
are you guys still stuck on this subject? GET OVER IT. We have amazing ICS ROMS in our dev section already. Samsung has their business style just as any other company.
If you guys are really still stuck on the subject, you could try to spread the word of this petition...
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-were-asking-you-bring-the-galaxy-s-users-an-update
Sadly the petition started to slow down about a month ago, but hey, maybe you guys can give it a second wind. Although I honestly doubt we'll get an official upgrade at this point in time.

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