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Traded away my Vibrant for a Mytouch 4G.. and i almost regret it!

I miss the Super amoled screen
Pros:
FFC
HSPA+
LED FLASH
FM RADIO
Physical Buttons + Dedicated Camera Button
Great build quality
Cons:
No Super Amoled Screen
No 16GB Internal Memory
No more Bionix :/
I don't regret it as much but going from a Super Amoled screen to a standard screen really made me realize how great my Sammy Vibe really was! I took it for granted!! You will be missed! (EXCEPT THE GPS ISSUE)
Well i jumped ship.. can't wait for the SGS2 though! Hope to catch up with some of you guys later in the SGS2/HTC SENSATION threads!
Goodbye!
Especially you s15274n. You have been really helpful! Without you knowing. lol
The bionix team and whitehawkxx wish you guys the best.
heading over the the MT4G/Glacier forum now. Peace!

Yeah i feel you man. My wife got a Mytouch 4G and its really nice, i mean really nice, but the Samsung Vibrant has the better screen with the Internal Storage that came way in handy for me. I rooted her mytouch 4g up already and put on some Gingerbread which i love with everything working, and the Vibrant still dont have everything working on Gingerbread. Well i guess ill be seeing you over there. I go from the Vibrant forums to the Mytouch 4g forums, switching out like crazy. =D

krazie1 said:
Yeah i feel you man. My wife got a Mytouch 4G and its really nice, i mean really nice, but the Samsung Vibrant has the better screen with the Internal Storage that came way in handy for me. I rooted her mytouch 4g up already and put on some Gingerbread which i love with everything working, and the Vibrant still dont have everything working on Gingerbread. Well i guess ill be seeing you over there. I go from the Vibrant forums to the Mytouch 4g forums, switching out like crazy. =D
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Well except for the GPS (which sucks on the Vibrant anyways haha), our CM7 is basically complete.
I'll probably stay with this phone and wait for the Samsung Hercules to come out. ^^

Longcat14 said:
Well except for the GPS (which sucks on the Vibrant anyways haha), our CM7 is basically complete.
I'll probably stay with this phone and wait for the Samsung Hercules to come out. ^^
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Yeah true its just GPS not working. But also the Battery drain on the phone is terrible, which is really irritating. But once battery drain is fixed then i'll probably be back on CM7 or MIUI.

krazie1 said:
Yeah true its just GPS not working. But also the Battery drain on the phone is terrible, which is really irritating. But once battery drain is fixed then i'll probably be back on CM7 or MIUI.
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Battery drain is a problem?
Wait, I have an extended battery, so I completely forgot. *facepalm*
Sucks, but if I didn't have this battery, I always have a place to charge the phone. And I heard the drain isn't as bad as it used to be.

Longcat14 said:
Battery drain is a problem?
Wait, I have an extended battery, so I completely forgot. *facepalm*
Sucks, but if I didn't have this battery, I always have a place to charge the phone. And I heard the drain isn't as bad as it used to be.
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It is still pretty bad...All CM7 running devices have pretty crappy battery-life (I have 3: N1, Vibrant, MT4g.

people you are too impatient. Just when they get the software for the Vibrant Humming you all jump ship.......... Hercules and the S2 will be out in the next 30 days and then, we will have something really to go too.........
Wanting always is better than the having.......... patience

oka1 said:
people you are too impatient. Just when they get the software for the Vibrant Humming you all jump ship.......... Hercules and the S2 will be out in the next 30 days and then, we will have something really to go too.........
Wanting always is better than the having.......... patience
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I agree with you, but since i didn't buy a new phone and simply traded i feel that jumping ship wasn't a bad choice. I still plan to upgrade!
Also the MT4G can be resold for a higher price than the Vibrant on craigslist.
BTW... WINNING!

To any CM7 users of vibrant and another phone with CM7(nexus one,MT4g,G2 etc.) are there any other difference in speed? I'm using Cm7 on vibrant but i can't compare it cause it's my only phone.

I picked up a g2 for cheap but still have my vibrant. I don't know what all the fuss was about. This doesn't feel any faster than my kb5 vibrant, and the "build quality" just makes it feel heavy and bulky. Its a decent phone overall, but not any better overall than my vibrant.
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Traded the Mytouch 4G for a G2.. G2 is a way better phone than the Mytouch 4G. Some people don't miss keyboards.. but you are crazy not to have a keyboard!! Bought the game gripper and wow.. just wow. The G2 is an overall fun phone and great speed/development/great everything!! Even the hinges on this unit are amazingly stronger than the other g2's i have used.

I really like my wifes mt4g. I began to dislike my G2 before I sold it. It felt like a phone meant for someone that doesn't know how to dress themself. It's hard to explain.
My Vibrant is starting to get old, but I have a sgs4g on the way that should renew my interest in the galaxy line.
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allthrottle said:
My Vibrant is starting to get old, but I have a sgs4g on the way that should renew my interest in the galaxy line.
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Not quite sure what about the SGS 4G would renew your interest in comparison to the Vibrant, unless you are in a 4G area and just really CRAVE the extra bandwidth so much that you won't miss the internal 16GB from the Vibrant (4G only has 1GB internal).. And of course, FFC.... which really AFAIC is a "bell and whistle" that 99% of people use once and never use again.

allthrottle said:
I really like my wifes mt4g. I began to dislike my G2 before I sold it. It felt like a phone meant for someone that doesn't know how to dress themself. It's hard to explain.
My Vibrant is starting to get old, but I have a sgs4g on the way that should renew my interest in the galaxy line.
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There is also very very very little development going on with it...
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I want a mt4g, I just have no idea how to root it, hah, thats the only thing keeping me away.

cashyftw said:
I want a mt4g, I just have no idea how to root it, hah, thats the only thing keeping me away.
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Add the bad/good screens, dust under the screen issues, bad eMMC chips that are said to cause bricking, creaky buttons on a few units, and off centered FFCs on a few. I wanted to trade as well, but a look at the forums steered me right away.

Well, the only phone I'm moving to when I get the chance is the SGSII, no matter what.
I love HTC phones but plenty of those are CDMA only and that doesnt work in my country :[

I bought the mytouch4g back in January and it was so great to have a phone that worked well right out the box and every custom gingerbread rom I've put on it has ran smoothly. However, I find myself constantly going back to my Vibrant. I miss the screen and I feel like the Vibrant has a lot more devs working on roms. I was just about to sell my Vibrant so I could have a few extra bucks when I read about the GPS fix. If I can find the perfect Gingerbread rom I will be keeping my vibrant until Samsung releases a dual-core phone for T-Mobile.

[Q] Thinking about getting an EPIC, can people help with a bit info on it?

I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.

mattallica76 said:
The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.
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Thanks. I know both are coming, the ED3 probably much sooner...I don't think I'll spend $200 on one of those phones though...but I am hoping the regular EVO can be free somewhere soon

Darkshneider said:
1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.
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Thanks for the answer, but wow, Hero has more development than the Epic? I wouldn't have expected that. I was going to get the Epic from BB yesterday, but the one I went to sold out and the next one only had two and I ran out of time, so I either get it from Amazon or wait for another sale

The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Boss86 said:
The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
Also, Hero has more development since it was one of the first Android phones for Sprint, it was one of the nicest ones for its time and it was an HTC phone. Samsung tends to keep away developers. After the Evo came out, a few devs jumped ship to that but there were too many devs to let the phone die. Hell, look at Deca, I was so happy when he said he got an Epic knowing all the stuff he did for the Hero, I still cant wait what he can do for the Epic.

Darkshneider said:
Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
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It doesn't lol.
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zanderman112 said:
It doesn't lol.
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Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)

Darkshneider said:
Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)
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Oh, sorry
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SDRebel said:
Thanks in advance
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I have had my epic since jan maybe before but it seems like forever the phone stock is great I had no issues with any of the stock apps and functions. Now that I'm rooted and on syndicate frozen 1.1.1 its like having a brand new phone again. my opinion is get it you can't go wrong with it the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it. Hope this helps.
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You wont find a better phone on the Sprint network for the same price for at least another 6-9 months (Free).

bmx_boi32 said:
the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it.
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The keyboard was a big factor for me in choosing the Epic over the Evo. I still think I made the right choice, but I *never* use the keyboard. It's just too easy to type with swype. Whenever I ultimately decide to upgrade, it will be to a phone with no keyboard.

I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Boss86 said:
I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Lol its ok. The Nexus S has the same 1Ghz Hummingbird we do.
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I just got a new epic for free at best buy and gave my gf my old epic to replace her ****ty moment. For free the phone kicks all the "budget androids" asses. Order while you can for free at amazon.
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epic is the stuff
i love my epic..... had a semi brick the other day had me worried but odin did the trick even had a screen that ppl well versed in the epic language have never seen but with some persistance i got her back up and running

If you root it, its a good phone.
GPS Aids is a must, GPS is golden now.
4G only works outside...
The Viper Rom is the best, just use Root Uninstaller to delete the teams bloatware.
Dont overclock (only fun for benches), its not worth the battery lose/glitches.. Just use setcpu to change the governor to Performance.. Alot of games play good with Performance gov. and clocks set to as low as 400 mhz.
Only complaint: No gyro. Dont give me any lines about this! I wanna play Nova with a gyro not a touch screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.

the keyboard is great for using Terminal Em. or punching in passwords. But ya it might not be worth the bulk..

promega said:
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.
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I must be confused about what you mean by Gyro
I play quite a few games that operate via tilting the phone only, rather than the touch screen

Noobnl's posting

Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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Nah, it's your imagination since it was already pretty dumpy.
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Top Nurse said:
Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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It did actually but I was impressed at his apology for creating the drama. That takes a lot.

I don't see anything about the Epic anymore in the Epic forum. It's all about the SGSII, Evo3D, I'm leaving...wahhhhhhh..cry me a river please, give me lunch money back, etc.
Would be nice to see stuff about the Epic again in the EPIC forums.

I'd much rather read noobnl posts/threads than sift through more and more threads on devices like the Evo/Evo 3D/etc which have nothing to do with the Epic and don't even belong here in the first place, or people griping about how the Epic is undersupported and 'woe iz us' and proudly boasting which manufacturer/device they're moving to because of it and why and all such blather as that as if everyone both wants and deserves to read it.
At the very least noobnl's threads and the reactions within them have some semblance of entertainment value usually.

This is a great phone and there are a ton of fun and interesting things to do with it. I guess I'm just not jaded enough because I don't buy the newest latest 3x a year for full price. No offense to those who do, but the Epic for me at least has plenty of life left in it.

DroidApprentice said:
This is a great phone and there are a ton of fun and interesting things to do with it. I guess I'm just not jaded enough because I don't buy the newest latest 3x a year for full price. No offense to those who do, but the Epic for me at least has plenty of life left in it.
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Yep, I agree. I'm not updating until quad core comes out. Dual core is cool, but the main feature of this phone is the gpu, which is just as good as anything coming out for thre rest of the year.
From cellblock D

digiblur said:
I don't see anything about the Epic anymore in the Epic forum. It's all about the SGSII, Evo3D, I'm leaving...wahhhhhhh..cry me a river please, give me lunch money back, etc.
Would be nice to see stuff about the Epic again in the EPIC forums.
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You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?

kennyglass123 said:
You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?
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Yah, I think a lot of the slowdown is the wait for the official GB to drop

DCRocks said:
Yah, I think a lot of the slowdown is the wait for the official GB to drop
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Ofcourse, I know 2 devs right now that have held off from even creating for FROYO because they knew GB was close.
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You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
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theyve said that before froyo too and i didnt see much of a diff after it dropped either. its not froyo, gb or anything else holding us up.
i think we all know what it is.

I just want more epic'ness. Its called the epic for damn sakes! Where's our Epic'ness! The glory to uphold the that name!
Our communitys taken several epic movements lately.. =/
Marcusant if u read this, make a quick "how to" compilation of all the learn to dev tuts. I'm sure it might motivate some in our community =) id do it but my theads are always sloppy.
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austin420 said:
theyve said that before froyo too and i didnt see much of a diff after it dropped either. its not froyo, gb or anything else holding us up.
i think we all know what it is.
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Really? Really? The threads were full of Epic only talk, differences between DK28, EB13 and EC05, easiest path to their favorite ROM, help I sponged my phone, how do use Odin, GPS fix this GPS fix that...he said talk was all about the next phone, which simply means devs are waiting for GB source code.
Do you BONSAI?

kennyglass123 said:
Really? Really? The threads were full of Epic only talk, differences between DK28, EB13 and EC05, easiest path to their favorite ROM, help I sponged my phone, how do use Odin, GPS fix this GPS fix that...he said talk was all about the next phone, which simply means devs are waiting for GB source code.
Do you BONSAI?
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I quote you by quoting myself
Shoulon said:
It's alrite, besides this entire community's progress is at a standstill. Everyone's waiting for samsprint to release their damn Gingerbread.
gb = alot of new work and releases =)
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i think we all know what it is.
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A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?

DCRocks said:
A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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Although my setup varies from yours, I have to agree.

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It did actually but I was impressed at his apology for creating the drama. That takes a lot.
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Even his apology was self congratulatory..

CM7, MIUI, AOSP and HTC Sense 3.0.
DCRocks said:
A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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Putting Cyongenmod 7, MIUI, AOSP, HTC Sense 3.0 and Touch wiz 4.0 on this phone for starters. So we can assure long term development on our devices.

Top Nurse said:
Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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No offence, but what is the point of this? To rag on a member? I have not been here long, or post often, but if you are saying the Epic forum is going to **** due to threads like Noobnl's, then what is this thread for?

Threads like this are why, counter productive and flamebait.. noobnl whether you like him or not, even if you think he stole everything he ever released, he still contributed more than 3/4s of the people talking ****..
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HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

fifedogg said:
Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

curiousGeorge said:
The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
curiousGeorge said:
...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

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Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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Epic. 10char
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

prboy1969 said:
Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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+1
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

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My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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Cool story, bro......

Well ladies and gentleman I did the unthinkable. I was going to hold out for the galaxy s2 but I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the EVO3D. I just want to say thanks to devs, trolls, mods, friends, cool kids, baby mama's and daddies, all the people who accepted the GB OTA especially the one guy who keeps making accounts asking for root, people who helped me, people I helped, people who annoy me, people that love team win, people that despise team win, people that create pointless threads like this one, and anyone else I left out that made these evo forums awesome!!! See you on the other side.....
First impressions: Only having the phone 1 hour I can say right now that the camera button and 2d/3d switch is already driving me insane. I hold my phone with my left hand and my fingers rest on it. I HATE IT, I HATE IT so effin much lol. Other than that the phone is godlike.......

just couldnt wait huh? haha

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Well ladies and gentleman I did the unthinkable. I was going to hold out for the galaxy s2 but I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the EVO3D. I just want to say thanks to devs, trolls, mods, friends, cool kids, baby mama's and daddies, all the people who accepted the GB OTA especially the one guy who keeps making accounts asking for root, people who helped me, people I helped, people who annoy me, people that love team win, people that despise team win, people that create pointless threads like this one, and anyone else I left out that made these evo forums awesome!!! See you on the other side.....
First impressions: Only having the phone 1 hour I can say right now that the camera button and 2d/3d switch is already driving me insane. I hold my phone with my left hand and my fingers rest on it. I HATE IT, I HATE IT so effin much lol. Other than that the phone is godlike.......
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I guess now I HAVE to get an Evo 3D.
I definitely have to wait until full root.
There's no way I can go back to Sense.
AOSP for the win.

Yea! My boy Dirk. I was hoping you would! One more familiar face on the 3d side.
Oh yea...... Cool story bro.....

mattykinsx said:
I guess now I HAVE to get an Evo 3D.
I definitely have to wait until full root.
There's no way I can go back to Sense.
AOSP for the win.
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@dased yeah i couldnt wait lol and @matty i hate sense also but the speed of the phone makes 3.0 awesome. I cant espress enough how much i really hate these camera buttons on the phone I could have really done with out them. Im amazed how cool the 3d technology is man I talked **** about 3D but boy is it cool. Missing my kickstand as we speak......

Even the dirkmeister is leaving?!?! What tha Hank? You'll be back in 30 days, when HTC reneges on their promise of unlocked bootloaders. Just kidding bro, enjoy the 3vo. I'll be joining maybe eventually, or I might wait for the Photon, or gs2. Good luck, and happy trails.
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Yea! My boy Dirk. I was hoping you would! One more familiar face on the 3d side.
Oh yea...... Cool story bro.....
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you went to the darkside also? i didnt know! well i guess you're stuck with me again ahahah

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@matty i hate sense also but the speed of the phone makes 3.0 awesome. I cant espress enough how much i really hate these camera buttons on the phone I could have really done with out them. Im amazed how cool the 3d technology is man I talked **** about 3D but boy is it cool. Missing my kickstand as we speak......
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The camera button bothers you only because you aren't used to it. After you get used to it, if you use the camera, you're gonna love it.
I didn't know you ever had a kickstand to begin with....zing!

The fact that on the evo 3d the charging port/ hdmi port is one in same makes it a no go. At least with evo 4g you can stream Netflix, HBO go and other internet streaming sites while still charging the phone makes it a plus. That phone will be 99 bucks after Christmas.

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Even the dirkmeister is leaving?!?! What that Hank? You'll be back in 30 days, when HTC reneges on their promise of unlocked bootloaders. Just kidding bro, enjoy the 3vo. I'll be joining maybe eventually, or I might wait for the Photon, or gs2. Good luck, and happy trails.
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lol yeah root or not i believe ill keep it unless the galaxy s 2 just blows it away then id probably sell it or something.

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The fact that on the evo 3d the charging port/ hdmi port is one in same makes it a no go. At least with evo 4g you can stream Netflix, HBO go and other internet streaming sites while still charging the phone makes it a plus. That phone will be 99 bucks after Christmas.
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Yeah bummer thats its on the left side and not the bottom....I dont think we will ever see the "Perfect" phone man......The evo was close but no cigar..

dirkyd3rk said:
Yeah bummer thats its on the left side and not the bottom....I dont think we will ever see the "Perfect" phone man......The evo was close but no cigar..
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Being a over the road trucker must truck stops have free high speed wifi. I have a 387 peterbuilt truck with a 32 inch flat screen mounted so streaming movies saves a ton on entertainment. They want 26.99 for a new release DVD... No way.... So for me the evo 4g is where I will be parked for a while and if I do upgrade I will still keep the phone for that purpose ... I think there will be much better phones offered in 2012.
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geeksquadryder said:
Being a over the road trucker must truck stops have free high speed wifi. I have a 387 peterbuilt truck with a 32 inch flat screen mounted so streaming movies saves a ton on entertainment. They want 26.99 for a new release DVD... No way.... So for me the evo 4g is where I will be parked for a while and if I do upgrade I will still keep the phone for that purpose ... I think there will be much better phones offered in 2012.
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32" wow that must be insane inside your truck I bet! Id be happy to have a 7" in dash LOL. If they do have better phones is still get my normal upgrade by the end of the year as I didn't use it.
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The cool thing with me is that by the time I upgrade in January, the devs will have rocked the 3D and the S2 so I can just step in, "root the *****" and start playing, like i did with the Evo.
Hell, they may have a root for the Evo 2.3.3 by then, too! lol

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The cool thing with me is that by the time I upgrade in January, the devs will have rocked the 3D and the S2 so I can just step in, "root the *****" and start playing, like i did with the Evo.
Hell, they may have a root for the Evo 2.3.3 by then, too! lol
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That would be the day LOL; in other news just out of curiosity I checked out a 3D porn 2 min clip and its pretty funny. Too bad it was one of those clips where you see 2 much man a$$ and t***t and not enough boobies haha #fail
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That would be the day LOL; in other news just out of curiosity I checked out a 3D porn 2 min clip and its pretty funny. Too bad it was one of those clips where you see 2 much man ass and taint and not enough boobies haha #fail
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Lets try and keep it PG today , though enjoy the phone.

teh roxxorz said:
Lets try and keep it PG today , though enjoy the phone.
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You're right forgive me kind sir just got a little excited
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mattykinsx said:
I guess now I HAVE to get an Evo 3D.
I definitely have to wait until full root.
There's no way I can go back to Sense.
AOSP for the win.
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Same here. I cannot stand Sense. I actually played with an EVO 3D, and comparing it to my rooted, fully decked-out AOSP running phone, honestly it wasn't much faster either.
I'm sure it will be blazing once root is achieved and it has proper support, but my LauncherPro was certainly faster than Sense 3.0, apps loaded about the same speed, the browser pinch to zoom was almost exactly the same.
I'm sure for flash videos and graphics-heavy games it would certainly make a difference, but aside from that, a rooted EVO 4G easily matches the speed of a stock EVO 3D.

dirkyd3rk said:
You're right forgive me kind sir just got a little excited
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Lawlz, sir is too much.
Though let me know how it is; I'll probably get the Galaxy S II when my time comes.

I also picked up the EVO 3D and its so fast and I love sense 3.0
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